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Warnings Australia is in for its coldest winter ON RECORD bringing heavy rain and snowfall - so book your trip to the slopes now Australia is set for the coldest winter on record, an amateur weather forecaster has claimed. Temperatures and snowfall could reach shocking levels compared to previous years, said David Taylor, who runs the East Coast Weather Facebook page. Mr Taylor, who has correctly predicted major weather events in the past, said that the icy conditions would impact huge areas of the country. David Taylor, who runs the Brisbane Weather and East Coast Weather Facebook pages, said that the icy conditions would impact huge areas of the country. Mr Taylor, who runs the East Coast Weather Facebook page, said that the icy conditions would impact huge areas of the country. Mr Taylor said that weather systems were susceptible to 'butterfly effect' like scenarios where small changes can have far reaching results. 'It will be slightly cooler than normal in the north but the real cold will be in the southern states and southeast Queensland,' he told The Cairns Post. 'I wouldn't be surprised if there is snow in places where it hasn't snowed for a long time.' Mr Taylor has explained that his forecast formula uses changes in sunspot activity, along with Global Forecast System modelling, and the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecast. Mr Taylor said tracking sunspot activity has enabled him to successfully predict weather events in the past. He was lauded for correctly predicting that 600mm of rain would fall in Townsville on February 28. Mr Taylor also predicted a 'decent cyclone' would cross the Queensland coast between Cairns and Gladstone this week. There is a thunderstorm warning in place for parts of Queensland and New South Wales      +9

im just going to drop this here so we can look back on it later on...

I think a lot of ammeter weather men do great predictions because they are not held by the government and its institutions who have to follow the political line..

it would not surprise me if he is right as the past 2 or 3 winters have been long and colder than the ones before...

time will tell..

but people are always "smart" after the event... lets keep this prediction here before the event..  :)

mind you..

saying that we're in for the coldest winter on RECORD is really putting your balls on the line..

I would not have gone that far...

I expect snow in Melbourne this winter
if David DuByne is right.
Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 7:31pm:

I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right. Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months.

well you could have shared that with me- it wasn't even a decent winter out here- more like spring

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:39pm:

mind you.. saying that we're in for the coldest winter on RECORD is really putting your balls on the line.. I would not have gone that far...

Yeah, but BoM only recognises temperatures to 1910. They refuse to recognise Stevenson Screens were in  place for most of Australia before then.

Agnes wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 7:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:31pm: I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right. Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months. well you could have shared that with me- it wasn't even a decent winter out here- more like spring

Not here in Melbourne -
sometimes it was so cold I didn't want to get out of bed.
My car was covered in ice 3 times & the whole street was white
with thick frost & ice as though I was living on a mountain.

We had our usual 2 weeks of cold weather (if that) in Rockhampton. But it was not a cold winter for the other 10 weeks. If we get freezing weather for a month (at the coldest time of the year) I will be happy. I would not mind it if we broke the -1 degree Celsius record we established 70 years ago.

I have not had a decent winter for the last 30 months. It has either been hot or mild around here all year. Nothing under a 5 degree minimum since 2015. And I do hope we have heavy Autumn rain before Winter sets in.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 8:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:31pm: I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right. Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months. well you could have shared that with me- it wasn't even a decent winter out here- more like spring Not here in Melbourne - sometimes it was so cold I didn't want to get out of bed. My car was covered in ice 3 times & the whole street was white with thick frost & ice as though I was living on a mountain.

Nobody cares about Melbourne: the wogs can have it!  ;D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:39pm:

mind you.. saying that we're in for the coldest winter on RECORD is really putting your balls on the line.. I would not have gone that far...

Actually by saying "on record" they are protecting themselves because the records go by exact dates and temperatures on those dates. Since our calendar is well overdue for an overhaul (seasons about a month out now) its a pretty safe bet to beat some "records" for specific dates.

Spot

TheFunPolice wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:12pm: Agnes wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:31pm: I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right. Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months. well you could have shared that with me- it wasn't even a decent winter out here- more like spring Not here in Melbourne - sometimes it was so cold I didn't want to get out of bed. My car was covered in ice 3 times & the whole street was white with thick frost & ice as though I was living on a mountain. Nobody cares about Melbourne: the wogs can have it!  ;D

Melbourne is a cold damp place in winter -

cold with high humidity that eats into your bones.

Even wearing 3 jumpers, a beanie & a scarf - you still feel cold
& that's indoors - go out into the wind
& it feels like Stalingrad in WW2.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 3:31pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 2:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:12pm: Agnes wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:54pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:31pm: I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right. Last winter was bad enough - it seemed to go on for 5 months. well you could have shared that with me- it wasn't even a decent winter out here- more like spring Not here in Melbourne - sometimes it was so cold I didn't want to get out of bed. My car was covered in ice 3 times & the whole street was white with thick frost & ice as though I was living on a mountain. Nobody cares about Melbourne: the wogs can have it!  ;D Melbourne is a cold damp place in winter - cold with high humidity that eats into your bones. Even wearing 3 jumpers, a beanie & a scarf - you still feel cold & that's indoors - go out into the wind & it feels like Stalingrad in WW2.

how in the hell did we ever used to live outside with no clothes on?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 4:14pm:

how in the hell did we ever used to live outside with no clothes on?

We came out of a hot part of Africa about 200,000 years ago.

I just saw around 40 to 50 black cockatoos in the trees across the river...

I've seen them go by over the past 4 or 5 years after the mini drought...

some old folk say its a sign of winter coming in a couple of months, as they are flying passed on their way to the mountains... a bit early I would have thought..

in passed years I've used Crows as an indication winter is on the way.... hundreds of them come to my area a couple of months before the rains come in...

I've been working away and only Home some weekends so it'll be hard to tell this year... there are crows around at the moment... but not by the "hundreds" ... yet...

I will expect to see heaps more within the month which will indicate heavy rains through winter...

Who needs ground hogs?

Spot

Astronomers who study the sun are usually spot on about the weather thus far, I think.... ;)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Who needs ground hogs? Spot

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:39pm:

mind you.. saying that we're in for the coldest winter on RECORD is really putting your balls on the line.. I would not have gone that far...

On record for this region means going colder than negative 1 for one day of the year.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 7:31pm:

I expect snow in Melbourne this winter if David DuByne is right.

Hoping to see snow in Adelaide as well - at least in the hills anyway- I will be up there frolicking around  and building snowmen etc- I have a good feeling about winter this year  :P

Bring on the cold weather. I now have 3 gas heaters and central heating.

Cold in WA usually means dry as well.

I dont want that,,, not that wanting or not wanting will change anything.

What ever happened to Indigo Jones and Lennox Walker
reincarnated to Mechanic

Gordon wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Bring on the cold weather. I now have 3 gas heaters and central heating.

LOL Gordy is there ANY weather you actually like- just put on yer puffy winter jumpsuit and snow boots and LIVE!!!!!

Rainfall in WA

https://images.theconversation.com/files/206135/original/file-20180213-44654-q46rcz.png

From an alarmist perspective

Cherry picking start dates.

https://i1.wp.com/www.warwickhughes.com/water/perth05.gif

Showing the full record to 2005

miketrees wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Cold in WA usually means dry as well. I dont want that,,, not that wanting or not wanting will change anything. What ever happened to Indigo Jones and Lennox Walker reincarnated to Mechanic

ole folk didn't have weathermen and looked for signs in nature to give them a hint of what was to come...

Some farmers use different types of weeds growing as a sign of turning climates... going from draught back to rains coming in..

but we are losing that ability...

im sure everyone on here knows that a sign of thousands of ants on the move means rains are coming in within a day or 3...

people are calling Melbourne Radio stations talking about ants on the move today...

Rain coming your way Bobby..

Agnes wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:39pm: Bring on the cold weather. I now have 3 gas heaters and central heating. LOL Gordy is there ANY weather you actually like- just put on yer puffy winter jumpsuit and snow boots and LIVE!!!!!

Actually I lurv the cold especially at night. I sleep with the window open in winter but I have 2 gurls and a baby boy so....

This winter the rules of the heater will be as follows.

No heating will be turned on unless tracky dacky, hoody, thick socks or slippers are worn.

Gordon wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:47am:

Agnes wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:48pm: Gordon wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:39pm: Bring on the cold weather. I now have 3 gas heaters and central heating. LOL Gordy is there ANY weather you actually like- just put on yer puffy winter jumpsuit and snow boots and LIVE!!!!! Actually I lurv the cold especially at night. I sleep with the window open in winter but I have 2 gurls and a baby boy so.... This winter the rules of the heater will be as follows. No heating will be turned on unless tracky dacky, hoody, thick socks or slippers are worn.

strewth..

the fun never stops at your house Gordo..  :-/

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:58am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:47am: Agnes wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:48pm: Gordon wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:39pm: Bring on the cold weather. I now have 3 gas heaters and central heating. LOL Gordy is there ANY weather you actually like- just put on yer puffy winter jumpsuit and snow boots and LIVE!!!!! Actually I lurv the cold especially at night. I sleep with the window open in winter but I have 2 gurls and a baby boy so.... This winter the rules of the heater will be as follows. No heating will be turned on unless tracky dacky, hoody, thick socks or slippers are worn. strewth.. the fun never stops at your house Gordo..  :-/

Why, that's just normal winter indoor clothes.

I am already chasing one of those air conditioners for the room, as seen on television. With winter coming on, I doubt that they will sell very many, and I should get a fairly cheap unit. It will have to sit in storage until September. But it should be really good.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Who needs ground hogs? Spot

mice are moving inside Spot...

we had a nice long autum last year but that WON"T happen this year...

winter is coming in.... along with the mice...

I went to Bunnings yesterday and bought a bucket of mice bait bocks...

50 for 33 dollars....

3 blocks have disappeared overnight... along with two the night before that...  :o

I have also thrown blocks and other baits into the roof..

its killing time at the Mechanics home...  :)

Ajax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

Astronomers who study the sun are usually spot on about the weather thus far, I think.... ;)

...what?

::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

miketrees wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:43pm: Cold in WA usually means dry as well. I dont want that,,, not that wanting or not wanting will change anything. What ever happened to Indigo Jones and Lennox Walker reincarnated to Mechanic ole folk didn't have weathermen and looked for signs in nature to give them a hint of what was to come... Some farmers use different types of weeds growing as a sign of turning climates... going from draught back to rains coming in.. but we are losing that ability... im sure everyone on here knows that a sign of thousands of ants on the move means rains are coming in within a day or 3... people are calling Melbourne Radio stations talking about ants on the move today... Rain coming your way Bobby..

You're cheating the kids!

Hope you feel good about that!

Winter is now over so let's see how how David Taylor's forecast of the coldest winter ON RECORD panned out:

http://i66.tinypic.com/jkyddz.jpg

Oh dear.
Far from being the coldest winter ON RECORD, for most of Australia it wasn't even BELOW AVERAGE.

massive fail from David Taylor
massive fail from that fraud Du Byne
Massive fail Bobby

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2018 at 10:18am:

Oh dear. Far from being the coldest winter ON RECORD, for most of Australia it wasn't even BELOW AVERAGE.

Oh dear. Fancy using BoM's smeared temperature from those 715? weather stations. Over 7.7 million square Kms?

And then we get this -

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/fresh-doubts-over-bom-records-after-thermometer-read-at-wrong-end/news-story/8b7fd6ae4fc27b2b6f2429b016be21ef

paywalled

Apparently a Post Office worker was reading the wrong end of the slide for temperatures. ::)

dated August 2017
You are so funny.

lee wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2018 at 12:52pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 10:18am: Oh dear. Far from being the coldest winter ON RECORD, for most of Australia it wasn't even BELOW AVERAGE. Oh dear. Fancy using BoM's smeared temperature from those 715? weather stations. Over 7.7 million square Kms? You are so funny.

If you have an issue with the BOM data please provide references and explain how many weather stations you would require with links to the appropriate sources. If not then STHU

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2018 at 1:02pm:

If you have an issue with the BOM data please provide references and explain how many weather stations you would require with links to the appropriate sources. If not then STHU

Oh dear. Getting antsy in your old age? What do you call spreading data that way?

When it can be a certain temperature at your place, a different temperature two blocks away, how do you resolve 1000's of square kilometres?

I know - you are a true believer.

How do you resolve "data" for all that area around Alice Springs which is multiples of 1000's of square kilometres of empty land?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2018 at 10:18am:

Winter is now over so let's see how how David Taylor's forecast of the coldest winter ON RECORD panned out: http://i66.tinypic.com/jkyddz.jpg Oh dear. Far from being the coldest winter ON RECORD, for most of Australia it wasn't even BELOW AVERAGE. massive fail from David Taylor massive fail from that fraud Du Byne Massive fail Bobby

I saw a graph very similar in one of DuBynes's videos
& it showed massive areas of cold.

All time record cold in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdjlJZDphBA


Record Cold Australia with August Snow in Turkey & Calgary (702)



Adapt 2030
Published on Sep 1, 2018
Record cold in Australia, but you would never know it by the news headline that says "Coldest August in 19 Years" buried deeper is the single small paragraph of the all tie record cold in Melbourne, a capital city no less. August snows in Turkey and Calgary, which add to the August snows in USA and Europe.

Did you notice Barney showed Mean Temperature map?

Does everybody get a mean temperature?

Of course if you want to look at cold winter temperatures you look at minimums.

And despite the smearing this is what the minimum anomaly looked like.

http://www.bom.gov.au/web03/ncc/www/awap/temperature/minanom/3month/colour/latest.hres.gif

Gee. Lots of blues and greens in that.

Thanks Lee,
I hope Barny has a good look -
it really has been cold.

lee wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2018 at 7:43pm:

Did you notice Barney showed Mean Temperature map? Does everybody get a mean temperature? Of course if you want to look at cold winter temperatures you look at minimums.

You are hilarious lee

1. so you don't mind using the BOM maps when it suits you, but you reject them when anybody else uses them. That is the ultimate in dishonesty and hypocrisy.

2. Even the map you posted doesn't show the COLDEST WINTER ON RECORD. So the thread is still wrong.

3. Minimum temperatures are overnight temperatures. So they have nothing to do with the Grand Solar Minimum and they are exactly what you would expect in a drought year.

So once again you fail lee and just show yourself to be the most dishonest and hypocritical debater.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2jg8237.jpg

This is the daytime temperature map for Winter 2018

So if this so called Grand Solar Minimum was affecting us you would expect the daytime temperatures to be well below normal

Instead we see that basicly the entire nation was above average

Du Byne and Bobby have failed again

All those two graphs indicate to me is the dryness of the winter.

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2018 at 11:31am:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2jg8237.jpg This is the daytime temperature map for Winter 2018 So if this so called Grand Solar Minimum was affecting us you would expect the daytime temperatures to be well below normal Instead we see that basicly the entire nation was above average Du Byne and Bobby have failed again

You've proven nothing.
We've had record low temperatures -
a 60 year low record for Melbourne as one example.

You wouldn't expect that if the climate was getting warmer.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2018 at 11:49am:

All those two graphs indicate to me is the dryness of the winter.

Well they are temperature maps to be fair. But generally cold is dry.

rainfall anomalies

http://www.bom.gov.au/web03/ncc/www/awap/rainfall/anomaly/3month/colour/latest.hres.gif

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2018 at 11:31am:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2jg8237.jpg This is the daytime temperature map for Winter 2018 So if this so called Grand Solar Minimum was affecting us you would expect the daytime temperatures to be well below normal Instead we see that basicly the entire nation was above average Du Byne and Bobby have failed again

I dont even know what that map is supposed to show barney...

Maximum Temperatures??  :-/

you haven't really shown us anything...