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Message started by it_is_the_light on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:20pm

Title: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:20pm
https://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/



Small Bursts



A relatively small active region erupted twice in 18 hours (Mar. 2, 2018). After each burst, one can see the magnetic fields lines, which appear as bright coils, spiraling around the region. They are reorganizing the disrupted magnetic field. The quick second when the screen goes black was caused by the Earth passing between the spacecraft and the sun. Images were taken in a wavelength of extreme ultraviolet light. The video was produced using the free Helioviewer software at Helioviewer.org. Credit Solar Dynamics Observatory, NASA.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:23pm
many blessings ..

a solar ' event ' is said to be imminent on the dates 21 - 31 of march 2018 ..

and so in less than 2 weeks .. we have the opportunity to focus on our star here ,

https://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/gallery/movies/smallburst_171_sm.mp4

we watch !

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:02pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvl7QskJLiM

A Massive Canyon-Shaped Hole has Opened up in the Sun's Atmosphere - G1 Storm Watch

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:02pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rx65s6MY3Y

Major Cold News, Space Weather Forecast | S0 News Mar.14.2018

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2018 at 11:44am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbO5PeTYzew

Solar Storms and Flares Amplify Bliss and Mess States

https://soulfullheartblog.com/2018/03/14/march-energies-update-solar-storms-flares-amplify-bliss-and-mess-states/



MARCH ENERGIES UPDATE: SOLAR STORMS/FLARES AMPLIFY BLISS AND MESS STATES

By Jelelle Awen

Here they come! Solar energies from our sun and the Great Cosmic Sun streaming in to activate and to boost. There are HIGH solar storms churning out geomagnetic frequencies, reconfiguring Gaia’s magnetic field (flipping it around some are offering). Significant, pretty huge SOULar flares erupting out from our sun’s core too and ‘heading our way.’ Even the mainstream news sources are reporting about these activities (in their  ‘strictly’ scientific way, yet, somehow, you can feel the underground excitement.)

All this sun activity feels quite masculine….meant to create surges and even purges, meant to shake up and wake up, meant to (in a good way) churn and burn. This sacred masculine galactic energy that has been SO much more intense in the last year meets and matches and exceeds the wounded masculine inertia that had settled over 3D life. It can rumble the technology, the satellites, and the 3D established systems. It can dissolve the 3D matrix and help those who are ready to ‘unplug’ from it to find their sovereign capacity to do so.

All this sun activity impacts our bodies too, even those quite still anchored to 3D reality will feel it on some level. You may be experiencing headaches, neck and shoulder tension, dizziness, edginess, interrupted sleeping or fogginess and sleepiness, heart palpitations. The degree you feel this is VERY individual to you, yet there is a ‘collective body’ as well that you may end up connecting too as Unity Consciousness continues to expand and open up. BE gentle with body reactions to feel them out, feel where they are sourced from, feel if they are from your emotional body…..emotions coming up that are manifesting in the body.

Feel if the emotions that are coming up are connected to another timeline or Metasoul Aspect reality. MUCH bleed through of other timelines is going on in this NOW too….Lemurian and Atlantis especially. Be conscious of which timelines you are letting through and how much. The higher frequency ones can be very helpful right now. You may be experiencing time as so much less linear, less anchored to ONE timeline…..more overlapping, merging, and multiple timeline realities at once. Here is a recent article that I wrote about Metasoul connection:  https://soulfullheartblog.com/2018/02/21/energy-update-timelines-bleeding-through-offering-deep-karmic-healing-and-unification-of-your-metasoul/

The main sense I am getting about these solar (truly SOULar) energies is that they are really meant to AMPLIFY whatever your consciousness reality is at this phase. This amplification may bring you into just TOTAL BLISS states and Kundalini activations/awakenings (as I experienced yesterday) and offer support to your 5D Self, just real watering for your essence to come through. Essentially pulling you into the higher dimensional New Earth consciousness experience for it to sink deeper into your bones, your every living cell, your walking around reality. This offers more ‘carrot’ for you to keep healing, keep feeling, and keep awakening….when you get these tastes and senses of 5D and higher and are able to bring them more deeply into your body and heart.

Or these energies may offer amplification of shadow places to go in your emotional body and/or Metasoul. You may get more sense of parts of yourself to feel that are in pain. Access to your Inner Protector as the masculine ‘force’ in your life may become much more real and palpable, plus the feminine parts that he is protecting such as the Inner Teenager and Inner Child. You may feel more clearly your inner family crying out for your love. You may feel places in your life that need and want your attention, choice points, and focus….a sense of ‘no more’ of this pattern or life choice or relationship.

Or your experience may be somewhere in the middle of the Bliss and the Mess……or UP and then down.
This activation and amplification during this March is definitely being offered as a GIFT. A beautiful GIFT from the Divine to bring us into our next places of awakening, both personally and collectively. A GIFT to bring us into states of remembering and letting in and letting go….to recode and ‘un’code the programs and conditionings that no longer serve us. Feeling these energies AS a gift (rather than a punishment or to promote more suffering) can help with the letting in and riding out and surrender to them.

Feeling much love with and for you as we navigate this EXCITING time and transition together….learning, growing, beginning, and BEcoming!

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 15th, 2018 at 12:08pm
the earth reacts ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VrIOALMYsE

Eruption Imminent: Volatile Underwater Volcano Sparks 5km Exclusion Zone

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2018 at 10:57am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC3vGLdIYKM

Huge solar storm set to slam Earth TOMORROW 14/03/18 - 21/03/18

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Karnal on Mar 17th, 2018 at 1:14pm
Feel the ViBrAtIoN.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2018 at 3:06pm
mmm !

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/spaceweather/index.html#q3

Solar Storm and Space Weather - Frequently Asked Questions



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5494489/Huge-solar-storm-set-slam-Earth-TOMORROW.html

Nasa spotted a solar flare releasing a coronal mass ejection earlier this week
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued a 'G1' storm watch
It coincides with the formation of 'equinox cracks' in the sun, which form around the equinoxes on March 20 and September 23 and weaken the magnetic field



A huge solar storm is heading for Earth, and it's likely to hit tomorrow.

The storm could knockout satellites, disrupt power supplies and spark stunning displays of the Northern Lights.

It was created last week by an enormous explosion in the sun's atmosphere known as a solar flare, and charged particles from that flare are now on their way to our planet.

The arrival of the solar storm coincides with the formation of 'equinox cracks' in Earth's magnetic field, which some scientists believe form around the equinoxes on March 20 and September 23 each year.

These cracks weaken our planet's natural protection against charged particles and could leave commercial flights and GPS systems exposed to the incoming storm.

The cracks also mean stargazers are more likely to catch glimpses of the Northern lights this week.

This may include parts of Scotland and northern England, as well as the 'northern tier' of the US including parts of Michigan and Maine.


Massive solar storm that will slam Earth TOMORROW could knock out power supplies, damage satellites and trigger stunning auroras




Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 31st, 2018 at 8:58pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9tK-eFPJA4

The Sun is Spitting Out Strange Patterns of Gamma Rays and No One Knows Why

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sun-is-spitting-out-strange-patterns-of-gamma-rays-and-no-one-knows-why/

The Sun Is Spitting Out Strange Patterns of Gamma Rays—and No One Knows Why


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Setanta on Mar 31st, 2018 at 9:57pm
This Topic was moved here from Thinking Globally by Setanta.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 1st, 2018 at 5:12am

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 4th, 2018 at 10:01am
So the Sun doesn't sit 3000 miles above the earth, whizzing around in a circle over the top of a flat earth (of course being the same size as the Moon, contained within the dome encapsulating the surface, atmosphere the Sun and the Moon etc) in this thread?

How strange, how can that be?

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 9th, 2019 at 6:07pm
all these theories are known knowns ..

facts remain truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cHk-sfiylQ

Double Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) Headed to Earth - Aurora Displays Alert

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:25am
NASA can't be trusted, the earth is flat, but now NASA can be trusted, the Sun isn't 6000m from the earth and the earth isn't flat..?

Which light are you today?

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8th, 2019 at 10:22am
https://youtu.be/CLWCVa64LjY

Watch out for Solar Bursts around Wednesday / Thursday

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Sad KangAnon on Apr 8th, 2019 at 12:57pm
This debunks your flat earth nonsense.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 8th, 2019 at 5:21pm


;)

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:07pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 12:57pm:
This debunks your flat earth nonsense.


many blessings

you really do struggle don't you ..

namaste

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:09pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 5:21pm:


;)





Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 8th, 2019 at 9:49pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 12:57pm:
This debunks your flat earth nonsense.




Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by .JaSin. on Apr 9th, 2019 at 12:42am
Only a Scientist would be stupid enough to interpret the 'Flat Earth' Way of Life and Belief, as something pertaining to the planet itself - geologically.  ::)

There's a new movie out soon about Tolkien when he was young and in the war. You might want to read into his 'Flat Earth' that he called the 'Straight Way' to which the Elves took, never finding their end in their immortality. Unlike the World of Men (Scientists) who will tell you the Earth is rounded globally as a planetoid and if you walk in one direction, you will eventually - in time, return to your past. And that is why Man is 'mortal'... dies by old age (his past).

So Mr Scientist. What say you? Or is even basic philosophy beyond your 'mathematical' sense of interpretation?  :-?

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Sad KangAnon on Apr 9th, 2019 at 8:14am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 12:57pm:
This debunks your flat earth nonsense.


many blessings

you really do struggle don't you ..

namaste

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


No, I'm not the one whose posts contradict each other.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Sad KangAnon on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:19am

Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 12:42am:
Only a Scientist would be stupid enough to interpret the 'Flat Earth' Way of Life and Belief, as something pertaining to the planet itself - geologically.  ::)

There's a new movie out soon about Tolkien when he was young and in the war. You might want to read into his 'Flat Earth' that he called the 'Straight Way' to which the Elves took, never finding their end in their immortality. Unlike the World of Men (Scientists) who will tell you the Earth is rounded globally as a planetoid and if you walk in one direction, you will eventually - in time, return to your past. And that is why Man is 'mortal'... dies by old age (his past).

So Mr Scientist. What say you? Or is even basic philosophy beyond your 'mathematical' sense of interpretation?  :-?


You're defending Light by talking about philosophy as if that's what he's been saying all along.

You know as well as anyone else that he has been blabbering on about the literal shape of the earth, that being flat, there being no curvature, posting "proofs" that keep getting debunked to claim the earth is flat and propose explanations, again none of which hold up to the most basic scrutiny, to reconcile all the evidence for a spheroidal shape to stick with it being flat and conspiracies to hide the truth by Governments around the world.

We read how long the solar flares will take to reach earth, and how lucky part of the earth will be because they're on the site not facing the sun, and this debunks everything he's claimed about the earth being flat, the distance from the sun, one side not facing the sun etc etc.

If he believes the two versions then he's either got some sort of split personality or doesn't care what he believes in, he's just been trolling all along.



Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:28am

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:26pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:19am:

Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 12:42am:
Only a Scientist would be stupid enough to interpret the 'Flat Earth' Way of Life and Belief, as something pertaining to the planet itself - geologically.  ::)

There's a new movie out soon about Tolkien when he was young and in the war. You might want to read into his 'Flat Earth' that he called the 'Straight Way' to which the Elves took, never finding their end in their immortality. Unlike the World of Men (Scientists) who will tell you the Earth is rounded globally as a planetoid and if you walk in one direction, you will eventually - in time, return to your past. And that is why Man is 'mortal'... dies by old age (his past).

So Mr Scientist. What say you? Or is even basic philosophy beyond your 'mathematical' sense of interpretation?  :-?


You're defending Light by talking about philosophy as if that's what he's been saying all along.

You know as well as anyone else that he has been blabbering on about the literal shape of the earth, that being flat, there being no curvature, posting "proofs" that keep getting debunked to claim the earth is flat and propose explanations, again none of which hold up to the most basic scrutiny, to reconcile all the evidence for a spheroidal shape to stick with it being flat and conspiracies to hide the truth by Governments around the world.

We read how long the solar flares will take to reach earth, and how lucky part of the earth will be because they're on the site not facing the sun, and this debunks everything he's claimed about the earth being flat, the distance from the sun, one side not facing the sun etc etc.

If he believes the two versions then he's either got some sort of split personality or doesn't care what he believes in, he's just been trolling all along.


Simple observation of confirmed facts and science ,

It is ok to ask questions and not be told what to think all the time ,

Certain people like to research and find that fascinating ..

Others choose to be programmed and if you should be so misfortunate as to identify data contrary to the programmed ones ' belief system

Well you had better be prepared for some scathing abuse , hateful words and threats of death , no less beloved beings

So be careful what you dare to research for the thought police demand you think just like them ...

Yet either way be at peace

Namaste

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 24th, 2019 at 2:27pm
https://youtu.be/zbPFCg1n84c

GALACTIC ENERGIES IN-COMING

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 26th, 2019 at 5:09pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvq7kzsfCfg

Ring of Fire: the decade's final solar eclipse

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:10pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Really?

You have posted flat earth content that says the sun is 5000 miles away from the earth, yet in this thread you reference the sun as being the scientifically accepted distance away and factoring that in to the time a sme would reach us etc based on the sun's activity.

You've clearly contradicted yourself.

You keep taking about how you apparently value facts and evidence and that's what you post, but clearly these two conflicting point means one is wrong.

People deserve to know the truth.

I thought you of all people would support that?

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:11pm
Re the shape of the earth, I'm ambivalent

but will confess to being partial to Charles Hoy Fort's suspicion that the earth is flat and above it lies at least one other earth-type place which shovels or maybe bulldozes its junk down onto us

such as the falls -- the unexplained falls

of flesh which analysis showed to be chunks of equine material, also that of infants.  They say it was largely scraps of lung

fish -- well, that can be explained in some cases as earthly fish being 'drawn up' by weather and dropped elsewhere on earth

same with frogs

but truckloads of shellfish?  When they fell far from the coast?

how about huge slabs of ice found in fields?  Often the size of a big fridge long before refrigerators existed.  The perplexing thing was the fact that the big slabs of ice were skating-rink smooth on one side, as if the smooth side of the slabs had fallen from something big and smooth

blood.  Analysed and it was human blood.  Fell several times on Italy and elsewhere, but Italy sticks in mind

In response to scientific claims that the various falls/rains of fish were simply the result of their having being sucked up by a whirlwind, Fort had this to say:

That they fell in no such distribution as one could attribute to the discharge of a whirlwind, but upon a narrow strip of land: about 80 yards long and 12 yards wide--

ten minutes later another fall of fishes occurred upon this same narrow strip of land.

In Science, March 9, 1888, we read of a block of limestone, said to have fallen near Middleburg, Florida. It was exhibited at the Sub-tropical Exposition, at Jacksonville. The writer, in Science, denies that it fell from the sky. His reasoning is:
There is no limestone in the sky;
Therefore this limestone did not fall from the sky.


Upon page 70, Science Gossip, 1887, the Editor says, of a stone that was reported to have fallen at Little Lever, England, that a sample had been sent to him. It was sandstone. Therefore it had not fallen, but had been on the ground in the first place. But, upon page 140, Science Gossip, 1887, is an account of "a large, smooth, water-worn, gritty sandstone pebble" that had been found in the wood of a full-grown beech tree. Looks to me as if it had fallen red-hot, and had penetrated the tree with high velocity. But I have never heard of anything falling red-hot from a whirlwind—
The wood around this sandstone pebble was black, as if charred.


London Times, Dec. 24, 1851:
That Hiram De Witt, of Springfield, Mass., returning from California, had brought with him a piece of auriferous quartz about the size of a man's fist. It was accidentally dropped—split open—nail in it. There was a cut-iron nail, size of a six-penny nail, slightly corroded. "It was entirely straight and had a perfect head."


The masks that have been found in ancient deposits.
Most of them are of stone, and are said to have been ceremonial regalia of savages—
But the mask that was found in Sullivan County, Missouri, in 1879 (American Antiquarian, 3-336).
It is made of iron and silver.


That, in September, 1833, when some workmen, near Norfolk, were boring for water, a coin was drawn up from a depth of about 30 feet. It was about the size of an English shilling, but oval—an oval disk, if not a coin. The figures upon it were distinct, and represented "a warrior or hunter and other characters, apparently of Roman origin."

Records of the Past, 12-182:
That, early in 1913, a coin, said to be a Roman coin, was reported as discovered in an Illinois mound. It was sent to Dr. Emerson, of the Art Institute, of Chicago. His opinion was that the coin is "of the rare mintage of Domitius Domitianus, Emperor in Egypt."

Proc. Amer. Phil. Soc., 12-224:
That, in July, 1871, a letter was received from Mr. Jacob W. Moffit, of Chillicothe, Ill., enclosing a photograph of a coin, which he said had been brought up, by him, while boring, from a depth of 120 feet.


Proc. Roy. Irish Acad., 1-381:
A paper was read by Mr. J. Huband Smith, descriptive of about a dozen Chinese seals that had been found in Ireland. They are all alike: each a cube with an animal seated upon it. "It is said that the inscriptions upon them are of a very ancient class of Chinese characters."
  Three were found in Tipperary; six in Cork; three in Down; four in Waterford; all the rest—one or two to a county.
But one of these Chinese seals was found in the bed of the River Boyne, near Clonard, Meath, when workmen were raising gravel.


I think we're property.
I should say we belong to something:
That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something:
That something owns this earth—all others warned off.


Amer. Anthropologist, n.s., 8-229:
Stone ax found at Birchwood, Wisconsin—exhibited in the collection of the Missouri Historical Society—found with "the pointed end embedded in the soil"—for all I know, may have dropped there—28 inches long, 14 wide, 11 thick—weight 300 pounds.
Or the footprints, in sandstone, near Carson, Nevada—each print 18 to 20 inches long. (Amer. Jour. Sci., 3-26-139.)
These footprints are very clear and well-defined: reproduction of them in the Journal



Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:16pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Really?

You have posted flat earth content that says the sun is 5000 miles away from the earth, yet in this thread you reference the sun as being the scientifically accepted distance away and factoring that in to the time a sme would reach us etc based on the sun's activity.

You've clearly contradicted yourself.

You keep taking about how you apparently value facts and evidence and that's what you post, but clearly these two conflicting point means one is wrong.

People deserve to know the truth.

I thought you of all people would support that?


well this just supports how clueless you are on fringe topics ..

here is a model that works as well .. do you deny it sad one ?



again I am open minded and include all possibilities

you on the other hand are stuck with your programming

you cannot get past it .. which is not your fault .. yet you need to expand your thinking if that's something you wish to do

.. yet either way be at peace

namaste

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:20pm

PZ547 wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
Re the shape of the earth, I'm ambivalent

but will confess to being partial to Charles Hoy Fort's suspicion that the earth is flat and above it lies at least one other earth-type place which shovels or maybe bulldozes its junk down onto us

such as the falls -- the unexplained falls

of flesh which analysis showed to be chunks of equine material, also that of infants.  They say it was largely scraps of lung

fish -- well, that can be explained in some cases as earthly fish being 'drawn up' by weather and dropped elsewhere on earth

same with frogs

but truckloads of shellfish?  When they fell far from the coast?

how about huge slabs of ice found in fields?  Often the size of a big fridge long before refrigerators existed.  The perplexing thing was the fact that the big slabs of ice were skating-rink smooth on one side, as if the smooth side of the slabs had fallen from something big and smooth

blood.  Analysed and it was human blood.  Fell several times on Italy and elsewhere, but Italy sticks in mind

In response to scientific claims that the various falls/rains of fish were simply the result of their having being sucked up by a whirlwind, Fort had this to say:

That they fell in no such distribution as one could attribute to the discharge of a whirlwind, but upon a narrow strip of land: about 80 yards long and 12 yards wide--

ten minutes later another fall of fishes occurred upon this same narrow strip of land.

In Science, March 9, 1888, we read of a block of limestone, said to have fallen near Middleburg, Florida. It was exhibited at the Sub-tropical Exposition, at Jacksonville. The writer, in Science, denies that it fell from the sky. His reasoning is:
There is no limestone in the sky;
Therefore this limestone did not fall from the sky.


Upon page 70, Science Gossip, 1887, the Editor says, of a stone that was reported to have fallen at Little Lever, England, that a sample had been sent to him. It was sandstone. Therefore it had not fallen, but had been on the ground in the first place. But, upon page 140, Science Gossip, 1887, is an account of "a large, smooth, water-worn, gritty sandstone pebble" that had been found in the wood of a full-grown beech tree. Looks to me as if it had fallen red-hot, and had penetrated the tree with high velocity. But I have never heard of anything falling red-hot from a whirlwind—
The wood around this sandstone pebble was black, as if charred.


London Times, Dec. 24, 1851:
That Hiram De Witt, of Springfield, Mass., returning from California, had brought with him a piece of auriferous quartz about the size of a man's fist. It was accidentally dropped—split open—nail in it. There was a cut-iron nail, size of a six-penny nail, slightly corroded. "It was entirely straight and had a perfect head."


The masks that have been found in ancient deposits.
Most of them are of stone, and are said to have been ceremonial regalia of savages—
But the mask that was found in Sullivan County, Missouri, in 1879 (American Antiquarian, 3-336).
It is made of iron and silver.


That, in September, 1833, when some workmen, near Norfolk, were boring for water, a coin was drawn up from a depth of about 30 feet. It was about the size of an English shilling, but oval—an oval disk, if not a coin. The figures upon it were distinct, and represented "a warrior or hunter and other characters, apparently of Roman origin."

Records of the Past, 12-182:
That, early in 1913, a coin, said to be a Roman coin, was reported as discovered in an Illinois mound. It was sent to Dr. Emerson, of the Art Institute, of Chicago. His opinion was that the coin is "of the rare mintage of Domitius Domitianus, Emperor in Egypt."

Proc. Amer. Phil. Soc., 12-224:
That, in July, 1871, a letter was received from Mr. Jacob W. Moffit, of Chillicothe, Ill., enclosing a photograph of a coin, which he said had been brought up, by him, while boring, from a depth of 120 feet.


Proc. Roy. Irish Acad., 1-381:
A paper was read by Mr. J. Huband Smith, descriptive of about a dozen Chinese seals that had been found in Ireland. They are all alike: each a cube with an animal seated upon it. "It is said that the inscriptions upon them are of a very ancient class of Chinese characters."
  Three were found in Tipperary; six in Cork; three in Down; four in Waterford; all the rest—one or two to a county.
But one of these Chinese seals was found in the bed of the River Boyne, near Clonard, Meath, when workmen were raising gravel.


I think we're property.
I should say we belong to something:
That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something:
That something owns this earth—all others warned off.


Amer. Anthropologist, n.s., 8-229:
Stone ax found at Birchwood, Wisconsin—exhibited in the collection of the Missouri Historical Society—found with "the pointed end embedded in the soil"—for all I know, may have dropped there—28 inches long, 14 wide, 11 thick—weight 300 pounds.
Or the footprints, in sandstone, near Carson, Nevada—each print 18 to 20 inches long. (Amer. Jour. Sci., 3-26-139.)
These footprints are very clear and well-defined: reproduction of them in the Journal


all factual happenings , yet SOME people will abuse you for mentioning as much

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:24pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Really?

You have posted flat earth content that says the sun is 5000 miles away from the earth, yet in this thread you reference the sun as being the scientifically accepted distance away and factoring that in to the time a sme would reach us etc based on the sun's activity.

You've clearly contradicted yourself.

You keep taking about how you apparently value facts and evidence and that's what you post, but clearly these two conflicting point means one is wrong.

People deserve to know the truth.

I thought you of all people would support that?


well this just supports how clueless you are on fringe topics ..

here is a model that works as well .. do you deny it sad one ?



again I am open minded and include all possibilities

you on the other hand are stuck with your programming

you cannot get past it .. which is not your fault .. yet you need to expand your thinking if that's something you wish to do

.. yet either way be at peace

namaste


One model is true, the other isn't.

There isn't much to get past.  You just want to pick and choose which ever one you want, changing your mind whenever you need the other to support something else you're claiming.

I'll take reality thanks.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:25pm
"Pigmy flints" are tiny, prehistoric implements. Some of them are a quarter of an inch in size. England, India, France, South Africa—they've been found in many parts of the world—whether showered there or not.
The datum that, just at present, leads me to accept that these flints were made by beings about the size of pickles, is a point brought out by Prof. Wilson (Rept. National Museum, 1892-455):
Not only that the flints are tiny but that the chipping upon them is "minute."
In Science Gossip, 1896-36, R.A. Galty says:
"So fine is the chipping that to see the workmanship a magnifying glass is necessary."
I think that would be absolutely convincing, if there were anything—absolutely anything—either that tiny beings, from pickle to cucumber-stature, made these things, or that ordinary savages made them under magnifying glasses.


London Times, July 20, 1836:
That, early in July, 1836, some boys were searching for rabbits' burrows in the rocky formation, near Edinburgh, known as Arthur's Seat. In the side of a cliff, they came upon some thin sheets of slate, which they pulled out.
Little cave.
Seventeen tiny coffins.
Three or four inches long.
In the coffins were miniature wooden figures. They were dressed differently both in style and material. There were two tiers of eight coffins each, and a third tier begun, with one coffin.
The extraordinary datum, which has especially made mystery here:
That the coffins had been deposited singly, in the little cave, and at intervals of many years. In the first tier, the coffins were quite decayed, and the wrappings had moldered away. In the second tier, the effects of age had not advanced so far. And the top coffin was quite recent-looking.
In the Proceedings of the Society of Antiquarians of Scotland, 3-12-460, there is a full account of this find. Three of the coffins and three of the figures are pictured.


In Popular Science, 20-83, Francis Bingham, writing of the corals and sponges and shells and crinoids that Dr. Hahn had asserted that he had found in meteorites, says, judging by the photographs of them, that their "notable peculiarity" is their "extreme smallness." The corals, for instance, are about one-twentieth the size of terrestrial corals. "They represent a veritable pygmy animal world," says Bingham.

If other worlds have ever in the past had relations with this earth, they were attempted positivizations: to extend themselves, by colonies, upon this earth; to convert, or assimilate, indigenous inhabitants of this earth.
Or parent-worlds and their colonies here—
Super-Romanimus—
Or where the first Romans came from.
It's as good as the Romulus and Remus story.
Super-Israelimus—
Or that, despite modern reasoning upon this subject, there was once something that was super-parental or tutelary to early orientals.
Azuria, which was tutelary to the early Britons:
Azuria, whence came the blue Britons, whose descendants gradually diluting, like blueing in a wash-tub, where a faucet's turned on, have been most emphasized of sub-tutelarians, or assimilators ever since.
Worlds that were once tutelarian worlds—before this earth became sole property of one of them—their attempts to convert or assimilate—but then the state that comes to all things in their missionary-frustrations


Once upon a time something melted, in streaks, the stones of forts on the tops of hills in Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, and Bohemia.
Lightning selects the isolated and conspicuous.
But some of the vitrified forts are not upon tops of hills: some are very inconspicuous: their walls too are vitrified in streaks.
Something once had effect, similar to lightning, upon forts, mostly on hills, in Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, and Bohemia.
But upon hills, all over the rest of the world, are remains of forts that are not vitrified.


London Times, April 27, 1872:
"From 4 o'clock, Thursday afternoon, until half past eleven, Thursday night, the houses, 56 and 58 Reverdy Road, Bermondsey, were assailed with stones and other missiles coming from an unseen quarter. Two children were injured, every window broken, and several articles of furniture were destroyed. Although there was a strong body of policemen scattered in the neighborhood, they could not trace the direction whence the stones were thrown."


Little, symmetric objects of metal that fell at Orenburg, Russia, September, 1824 (Phil. Mag., 4-8-463).
A second fall of these objects, at Orenburg, Russia, Jan. 25, 1825 (Quar. Jour. Roy. Inst., 1828-1-447).


Report from the Signal Service observer, at Bismarck, Dakota:
That, at 9 o'clock, in the evening of May 22, 1884, sharp sounds were heard throughout the city, caused by a fall of flinty stones striking against windows.
Fifteen hours later another fall of flinty stones occurred at Bismarck.
There is no report of stones having fallen anywhere else.



Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:26pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Really?

You have posted flat earth content that says the sun is 5000 miles away from the earth, yet in this thread you reference the sun as being the scientifically accepted distance away and factoring that in to the time a sme would reach us etc based on the sun's activity.

You've clearly contradicted yourself.

You keep taking about how you apparently value facts and evidence and that's what you post, but clearly these two conflicting point means one is wrong.

People deserve to know the truth.

I thought you of all people would support that?


well this just supports how clueless you are on fringe topics ..

here is a model that works as well .. do you deny it sad one ?



again I am open minded and include all possibilities

you on the other hand are stuck with your programming

you cannot get past it .. which is not your fault .. yet you need to expand your thinking if that's something you wish to do

.. yet either way be at peace

namaste


One model is true, the other isn't.

There isn't much to get past.  You just want to pick and choose which ever one you want, changing your mind whenever you need the other to support something else you're claiming.

I'll take reality thanks.



you have never been to space so how can you know ?

you have been programed with a globe in the classroom and a " moon landing " by stanley kubrick on the tell a lie vision  .. it seems they did a great job on you ..

are you mad with me for speaking the truth ?

are you prone to abuse one such as I am in this moment ?

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:27pm

PZ547 wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
"Pigmy flints" are tiny, prehistoric implements. Some of them are a quarter of an inch in size. England, India, France, South Africa—they've been found in many parts of the world—whether showered there or not.
The datum that, just at present, leads me to accept that these flints were made by beings about the size of pickles, is a point brought out by Prof. Wilson (Rept. National Museum, 1892-455):
Not only that the flints are tiny but that the chipping upon them is "minute."
In Science Gossip, 1896-36, R.A. Galty says:
"So fine is the chipping that to see the workmanship a magnifying glass is necessary."
I think that would be absolutely convincing, if there were anything—absolutely anything—either that tiny beings, from pickle to cucumber-stature, made these things, or that ordinary savages made them under magnifying glasses.


London Times, July 20, 1836:
That, early in July, 1836, some boys were searching for rabbits' burrows in the rocky formation, near Edinburgh, known as Arthur's Seat. In the side of a cliff, they came upon some thin sheets of slate, which they pulled out.
Little cave.
Seventeen tiny coffins.
Three or four inches long.
In the coffins were miniature wooden figures. They were dressed differently both in style and material. There were two tiers of eight coffins each, and a third tier begun, with one coffin.
The extraordinary datum, which has especially made mystery here:
That the coffins had been deposited singly, in the little cave, and at intervals of many years. In the first tier, the coffins were quite decayed, and the wrappings had moldered away. In the second tier, the effects of age had not advanced so far. And the top coffin was quite recent-looking.
In the Proceedings of the Society of Antiquarians of Scotland, 3-12-460, there is a full account of this find. Three of the coffins and three of the figures are pictured.


In Popular Science, 20-83, Francis Bingham, writing of the corals and sponges and shells and crinoids that Dr. Hahn had asserted that he had found in meteorites, says, judging by the photographs of them, that their "notable peculiarity" is their "extreme smallness." The corals, for instance, are about one-twentieth the size of terrestrial corals. "They represent a veritable pygmy animal world," says Bingham.

If other worlds have ever in the past had relations with this earth, they were attempted positivizations: to extend themselves, by colonies, upon this earth; to convert, or assimilate, indigenous inhabitants of this earth.
Or parent-worlds and their colonies here—
Super-Romanimus—
Or where the first Romans came from.
It's as good as the Romulus and Remus story.
Super-Israelimus—
Or that, despite modern reasoning upon this subject, there was once something that was super-parental or tutelary to early orientals.
Azuria, which was tutelary to the early Britons:
Azuria, whence came the blue Britons, whose descendants gradually diluting, like blueing in a wash-tub, where a faucet's turned on, have been most emphasized of sub-tutelarians, or assimilators ever since.
Worlds that were once tutelarian worlds—before this earth became sole property of one of them—their attempts to convert or assimilate—but then the state that comes to all things in their missionary-frustrations


Once upon a time something melted, in streaks, the stones of forts on the tops of hills in Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, and Bohemia.
Lightning selects the isolated and conspicuous.
But some of the vitrified forts are not upon tops of hills: some are very inconspicuous: their walls too are vitrified in streaks.
Something once had effect, similar to lightning, upon forts, mostly on hills, in Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, and Bohemia.
But upon hills, all over the rest of the world, are remains of forts that are not vitrified.


London Times, April 27, 1872:
"From 4 o'clock, Thursday afternoon, until half past eleven, Thursday night, the houses, 56 and 58 Reverdy Road, Bermondsey, were assailed with stones and other missiles coming from an unseen quarter. Two children were injured, every window broken, and several articles of furniture were destroyed. Although there was a strong body of policemen scattered in the neighborhood, they could not trace the direction whence the stones were thrown."


Little, symmetric objects of metal that fell at Orenburg, Russia, September, 1824 (Phil. Mag., 4-8-463).
A second fall of these objects, at Orenburg, Russia, Jan. 25, 1825 (Quar. Jour. Roy. Inst., 1828-1-447).


Report from the Signal Service observer, at Bismarck, Dakota:
That, at 9 o'clock, in the evening of May 22, 1884, sharp sounds were heard throughout the city, caused by a fall of flinty stones striking against windows.
Fifteen hours later another fall of flinty stones occurred at Bismarck.
There is no report of stones having fallen anywhere else.


fire and brimstone *

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by rhino on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:28pm
Lol, you lot.
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Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:30pm
Hailstones, we don't care so much about. The matter of stratification seems significant, but we think more of the fall of lumps of ice from the sky, as possible data of the Super-Sargasso Sea:

Lumps of ice, a foot in circumference, Derbyshire, England, May 12, 1811 (Annual Register, 1811-54);

cuboidal mass, six inches in diameter, that fell at Birmingham, 26 days later (Thomson, Intro. to Meteorology, p. 179);

size of pumpkins, Bangalore, India, May 22, 1851 (Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1855-35); masses of ice of a pound and a half each, New Hampshire, Aug. 13, 1851 (Lummis, Meteorology, p. 129);

masses of ice, size of a man's head, in the Delphos tornado (Ferrel, Popular Treatise, p. 428);

large as a man's hand, killing thousands of sheep, Texas, May 3, 1877 (Monthly Weather Review, May, 1877);

"pieces of ice so large that they could not be grasped in one hand," in a tornado, in Colorado, June 24, 1877 (Monthly Weather Review, June, 1877);

lumps of ice four and a half inches long, Richmond, England, Aug. 2, 1879 (Symons' Met. Mag., 14-100);

mass of ice, 21 inches in circumference that fell with hail, Iowa, June, 1881 (Monthly Weather Review, June, 1881);

"pieces of ice" eight inches long, and an inch and a half thick, Davenport, Iowa, Aug. 30, 1882 (Monthly Weather Review, Aug., 1882);

lump of ice size of a brick; weight two pounds, Chicago, July 12, 1883 (Monthly Weather Review, July, 1883);

lumps of ice that weighed one pound and a half each, India, May (?), 1888 (Nature, 37-42);

lump of ice weighing four pounds, Texas, Dec. 6, 1893 (Sc. Am., 68-58);

lumps of ice one pound in weight, Nov. 14, 1901, in a tornado, Victoria (Meteorology of Australia, p. 34).

Flammarion, The Atmosphere, p. 34:
Block of ice, weighing four and a half pounds that fell at Cazorta, Spain, June 15, 1829;

block of ice, weighing eleven pounds, at Cette, France, October, 1844;

mass of ice three feet long, three feet wide, and more than two feet thick, that fell, in a storm, in Hungary, May 8, 1802.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:40pm
Scientific American, 47-119:
That, according to the Salina Journal, a mass of ice weighing about 80 pounds had fallen from the sky, near Salina, Kansas, August, 1882. We are told that Mr. W.J. Hagler, the North Santa Fé merchant became possessor of it, and packed it in sawdust in his store.
London Times, April 7, 1860:

That, upon the 16th of March, 1860, in a snowstorm, in Upper Wasdale, blocks of ice, so large that at a distance they looked like a flock of sheep, had fallen.


Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1851-32:
That a mass of ice about a cubic yard in size had fallen at Candeish, India, 1828.

London Times, Aug. 4, 1857.
That a block of ice, described as "pure" ice, weighing 25 pounds, had been found in the meadow of Mr. Warner, of Cricklewood. There had been a storm the day before. As in some of our other instances, no one had seen this object fall from the sky. It was found after the storm: that's all that can be said about it.

Letter from Capt. Blakiston, communicated by Gen. Sabine, to the Royal Society (London Roy. Soc. Proc., 10-468):
That, Jan. 14, 1860, in a thunderstorm, pieces of ice had fallen upon Capt. Blakiston's vessel—that it was not hail. "It was not hail, but irregular-shaped pieces of solid ice of different dimensions, up to the size of half a brick."

According to the Advertiser-Scotsman, quoted by the Edinburgh New Philosophical Magazine, 47-371, an irregular-shaped mass of ice fell at Ord, Scotland, August, 1849, after "an extraordinary peal of thunder."
It is said that this was homogeneous ice, except in a small part, which looked like congealed hailstones.
The mass was about 20 feet in circumference.

In the Report of the British Association, 1855-37, it is said that, at Poorhundur, India, Dec. 11, 1854, flat pieces of ice, many of them weighing several pounds—each, I suppose—had fallen from the sky. They are described as "large ice-flakes."

In Symons' Meteorological Magazine, 32-172, are outlined rough-edged but smooth-surfaced pieces of ice that fell at Manassas, Virginia, Aug. 10, 1897. They look as much like the roughly broken fragments of a smooth sheet of ice—as ever have roughly broken fragments of a smooth sheet of ice looked. About two inches across, and one inch thick. In Cosmos, 3-116, it is said that, at Rouen, July 5, 1853, fell irregular-shaped pieces of ice, about the size of a hand, described as looking as if all had been broken from one enormous block of ice.

Monthly Weather Review, July, 1894:
That, from the Weather Bureau, of Portland, Oregon, a tornado, of June 3, 1894, was reported.
Fragments of ice fell from the sky.
They averaged three to four inches square, and about an inch thick. In length and breadth they had the smooth surfaces required by our acceptance: and, according to the writer in the Review, "gave the impression of a vast field of ice suspended in the atmosphere, and suddenly broken into fragments about the size of the palm of the hand."

vast sheets of ice, a few miles above this earth—then the shining of the sun, and the ice partly melting—that note upon the ice that fell at Derby—water trickling and forming icicles upon the lower surface of the ice sheet

Of the ice that fell, some of it enclosing living frogs, at Dubuque, Iowa, June 16, 1882, it is said (Monthly Weather Review, June, 1882) that there were pieces from one to seventeen inches in circumference, the largest weighing one pound and three-quarters—that upon some of them were icicles half an inch in length. We emphasize that these objects were not hailstones.

Monthly Weather Review, June, 1889:
That, at Oswego, N.Y., June 11, 1889, according to the Turin (N.Y.) Leader, there fell, in a thunderstorm, pieces of ice that "resembled the fragments of icicles."
Monthly Weather Review, 29-506:
That on Florence Island, St. Lawrence River, Aug. 8, 1901, with ordinary hail, fell pieces of ice "formed like icicles, the size and shape of lead pencils that had been cut into sections about three-eighths of an inch in length."

Monthly Weather Review, October, 1886:
That, according to the Charlotte Chronicle, Oct. 21, 1886, for three weeks there had been a fall of water from the sky, in Charlotte, N.C., localized in one particular spot, every afternoon, about three o'clock; that, whether the sky was cloudy or cloudless, the water or rain fell upon a small patch of land between two trees and nowhere else.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:55pm
Visitors to Venus:
Evans, Ways of the Planets, p. 140:
That, in 1645, a body large enough to look like a satellite was seen near Venus. Four times in the first half of the 18th century, a similar observation was reported. The last report occurred in 1767.
A large body has been seen—seven times, according to Science Gossip, 1886-178—near Venus. At least one astronomer, Houzeau, accepted these observations and named the—world, planet, super-construction—"Neith." His views are mentioned "in passing, but without endorsement," in the Trans. N.Y. Acad., 5-249.

Astrophysical Journal, 1-127:
A light-reflecting body, or a bright spot near Mars: seen Nov. 25, 1894, by Prof. Pickering and others, at the Lowell Observatory, above an unilluminated part of Mars—self-luminous, it would seem—thought to have been a cloud—but estimated to have been about twenty miles away from the planet.

Luminous spot seen moving across the disk of Mercury, in 1799, by Harding and Schroeter. (Monthly Notices of the R.A.S., 38-338.)

In the first Bulletin issued by the Lowell Observatory, in 1903, Prof. Lowell describes a body that was seen on the terminator of Mars, May 20, 1903. On May 27, it was "suspected." If still there, it had moved, we are told, about 300 miles—"probably a dust cloud."


In 1859, Dr. Lescarbault, an amateur astronomer, of Orgères, France, announced that, upon March 26, of that year, he had seen a body of planetary size cross the sun.
We are told that Leverrier "satisfied himself as to the substantial accuracy of the reported observation." The story of this investigation is told in Monthly Notices, 20-98

According to the Annual Register, 9-120, upon the 9th of August, 1762, M. de Rostan, of Basle, France, was taking altitudes of the sun, at Lausanne. He saw a vast, spindle-shaped body, about three of the sun's digits in breadth and nine in length, advancing slowly across the disk of the sun, or "at no more than half the velocity with which the ordinary solar spots move." It did not disappear until the 7th of September, when it reached the sun's limb.

M. Croste, at Sole, about forty-five German leagues northward from Lausanne, had seen it, describing the same spindle-form, but disagreeing a little as to breadth. Then comes the important point: that he and M. de Rostan did not see it upon the same part of the sun. This, then, is parallax, and, compounded with invisibility at Paris, is great parallax—or that, in the course of a month, in the summer of 1762, a large, opaque, spindle-shaped body traversed the disk of the sun, but at a great distance from the sun. The writer in the Register says: "In a word, we know of nothing to have recourse to, in the heavens, by which to explain this phenomenon."

That another amateur astronomer, M. Coumbray, of Constantinople, had written to Leverrier, that, upon the 8th of March, 1865, he had seen a black point, sharply outlined, traverse the disk of the sun. It detached itself from a group of sun spots near the limb of the sun, and took 48 minutes to reach the other limb. Figuring upon the diagram sent by M. Coumbray, a central passage would have taken a little more than an hour.

Haase had collected reports of twenty observations like Lescarbault's. The list was published in 1872, by Wolf. Also there are other instances like Gruthinsen's:
Amer. Jour. Sci., 2-28-446:
Report by Pastorff that he had seen twice in 1836, and once in 1837, two round spots of unequal size moving across the sun, changing position relatively to each other, and taking a different course, if not orbit, each time: that, in 1834, he had seen similar bodies pass six times across the disk of the sun, looking very much like Mercury in his transits.

In the London Times, Jan. 10, 1860, is Benjamin Scott's account of his observation:
That, in the summer of 1847, he had seen a body that had seemed to be the size of Venus, crossing the sun. He says that, hardly believing the evidence of his sense of sight, he had looked for someone, whose hopes or ambitions would not make him so subject to illusion. He had told his little son, aged five years, to look through the telescope. The child had exclaimed that he had seen "a little balloon" crossing the sun. Scott says that he had not had sufficient self-reliance to make public announcement of his remarkable observation at the time, but that, in the evening of the same day, he had told Dr. Dick, F.R.A.S., who had cited other instances. In the Times, Jan. 12, 1860, is published a letter from Richard Abbott, F.R.A.S.: that he remembered Mr. Scott's letter to him upon this observation, at the time of the occurrence.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Prof. Watson and Prof. Swift published their observations.

In the Observatory, 2-161, Swift says that his observations and Watson's were "confirmatory of each other."

In 1783 and 1787, Herschel reported more lights on or near the moon, which he supposed were volcanic.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:58pm

PZ547 wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Visitors to Venus:
Evans, Ways of the Planets, p. 140:
That, in 1645, a body large enough to look like a satellite was seen near Venus. Four times in the first half of the 18th century, a similar observation was reported. The last report occurred in 1767.
A large body has been seen—seven times, according to Science Gossip, 1886-178—near Venus. At least one astronomer, Houzeau, accepted these observations and named the—world, planet, super-construction—"Neith." His views are mentioned "in passing, but without endorsement," in the Trans. N.Y. Acad., 5-249.

Astrophysical Journal, 1-127:
A light-reflecting body, or a bright spot near Mars: seen Nov. 25, 1894, by Prof. Pickering and others, at the Lowell Observatory, above an unilluminated part of Mars—self-luminous, it would seem—thought to have been a cloud—but estimated to have been about twenty miles away from the planet.

Luminous spot seen moving across the disk of Mercury, in 1799, by Harding and Schroeter. (Monthly Notices of the R.A.S., 38-338.)

In the first Bulletin issued by the Lowell Observatory, in 1903, Prof. Lowell describes a body that was seen on the terminator of Mars, May 20, 1903. On May 27, it was "suspected." If still there, it had moved, we are told, about 300 miles—"probably a dust cloud."


In 1859, Dr. Lescarbault, an amateur astronomer, of Orgères, France, announced that, upon March 26, of that year, he had seen a body of planetary size cross the sun.
We are told that Leverrier "satisfied himself as to the substantial accuracy of the reported observation." The story of this investigation is told in Monthly Notices, 20-98

According to the Annual Register, 9-120, upon the 9th of August, 1762, M. de Rostan, of Basle, France, was taking altitudes of the sun, at Lausanne. He saw a vast, spindle-shaped body, about three of the sun's digits in breadth and nine in length, advancing slowly across the disk of the sun, or "at no more than half the velocity with which the ordinary solar spots move." It did not disappear until the 7th of September, when it reached the sun's limb.

M. Croste, at Sole, about forty-five German leagues northward from Lausanne, had seen it, describing the same spindle-form, but disagreeing a little as to breadth. Then comes the important point: that he and M. de Rostan did not see it upon the same part of the sun. This, then, is parallax, and, compounded with invisibility at Paris, is great parallax—or that, in the course of a month, in the summer of 1762, a large, opaque, spindle-shaped body traversed the disk of the sun, but at a great distance from the sun. The writer in the Register says: "In a word, we know of nothing to have recourse to, in the heavens, by which to explain this phenomenon."

That another amateur astronomer, M. Coumbray, of Constantinople, had written to Leverrier, that, upon the 8th of March, 1865, he had seen a black point, sharply outlined, traverse the disk of the sun. It detached itself from a group of sun spots near the limb of the sun, and took 48 minutes to reach the other limb. Figuring upon the diagram sent by M. Coumbray, a central passage would have taken a little more than an hour.

Haase had collected reports of twenty observations like Lescarbault's. The list was published in 1872, by Wolf. Also there are other instances like Gruthinsen's:
Amer. Jour. Sci., 2-28-446:
Report by Pastorff that he had seen twice in 1836, and once in 1837, two round spots of unequal size moving across the sun, changing position relatively to each other, and taking a different course, if not orbit, each time: that, in 1834, he had seen similar bodies pass six times across the disk of the sun, looking very much like Mercury in his transits.

In the London Times, Jan. 10, 1860, is Benjamin Scott's account of his observation:
That, in the summer of 1847, he had seen a body that had seemed to be the size of Venus, crossing the sun. He says that, hardly believing the evidence of his sense of sight, he had looked for someone, whose hopes or ambitions would not make him so subject to illusion. He had told his little son, aged five years, to look through the telescope. The child had exclaimed that he had seen "a little balloon" crossing the sun. Scott says that he had not had sufficient self-reliance to make public announcement of his remarkable observation at the time, but that, in the evening of the same day, he had told Dr. Dick, F.R.A.S., who had cited other instances. In the Times, Jan. 12, 1860, is published a letter from Richard Abbott, F.R.A.S.: that he remembered Mr. Scott's letter to him upon this observation, at the time of the occurrence.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Prof. Watson and Prof. Swift published their observations.

In the Observatory, 2-161, Swift says that his observations and Watson's were "confirmatory of each other."

In 1783 and 1787, Herschel reported more lights on or near the moon, which he supposed were volcanic.



Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 4:00pm
A moving light is reported in Phil. Trans., 84-429. To the writer, it looked like a star passing over the moon—"which, on the next moment's consideration I knew to be impossible." "It was a fixed, steady light upon the dark part of the moon." I suppose "fixed" applies to luster.

In the Report of the Brit. Assoc., 1847-18, there is an observation by Rankin, upon luminous points seen on the shaded part of the moon, during an eclipse. They seemed to this observer like reflections of stars. That's not very reasonable: however, we have, in the Annual Register, 1821-687, a light not referable to a star—because it moved with the moon: was seen three nights in succession; reported by Capt. Kater. See Quart. Jour. Roy. Inst., 12-133.

Phil. Trans., 112-237:
Report from the Cape Town Observatory: a whitish spot on the dark part of the moon's limb. Three smaller lights were seen.

he extraordinary year, 1883:
London Times, Dec. 17, 1883:
Extract from a letter by Hicks Pashaw: that, in Egypt, Sept. 24, 1883, he had seen, through glasses, "an immense black spot upon the lower part of the sun."

One night an astronomer was looking up at the sky, when something obscured a star, for three and a half seconds. A meteor had been seen nearby, but its train had been only momentarily visible. Dr. Wolf was the astronomer (Nature, 86-528).
The next datum is one of the most sensational we have, except that there is very little to it. A dark object that was seen by Prof. Heis, for eleven degrees of arc, moving slowly across the Milky Way. (Greg's Catalogue, Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1867-426.)

In the Astronomische Nachrichten, No. 3477, Dr. Brendel, of Griefswald, Pomerania, writes that Postmaster Ziegler and other observers had seen a body about 6 feet in diameter crossing the sun's disk. The duration here indicates something far from the earth, and also far from the sun. This thing was seen a quarter of an hour before it reached the sun. Time in crossing the sun was about an hour. After leaving the sun it was visible an hour.

Communication from Dr. F.B. Harris (Popular Astronomy, 20-398):
That, upon the evening of Jan. 27, 1912, Dr. Harris saw, upon the moon, "an intensely black object." He estimated it to be 250 miles long and 50 miles wide. "The object resembled a crow poised, as near as anything." Clouds then cut off observation.


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 4:09pm
In the Monthly Notices of the R.A.S., 11-48, there is a letter from the Rev. W. Read:
That, upon the 4th of September, 1851, at 9:30 A.M., he had seen a host of self-luminous bodies, passing the field of his telescope, some slowly and some rapidly. They appeared to occupy a zone several degrees in breadth. The direction of most of them was due east to west, but some moved from north to south. The numbers were tremendous. They were observed for six hours.

In Monthly Notices, 12-38, Mr. Read answers that he had been a diligent observer, with instruments of a superior order, for about 28 years—"but I have never witnessed such an appearance before." As to illusion he says that two other members of his family had seen the objects.

rof. Coffin, U.S.N. (Jour. Frank. Inst., 88-151):
That, during the eclipse of August, 1869, he had noted the passage, across his telescope, of several bright flakes resembling thistleblows, floating in the sunlight. But the telescope was so focused that, if these things were distinct, they must have been so far away from this earth that the difficulties of orthodoxy remain as great, one way or another, no matter what we think they were—
They were "well-defined," says Prof. Coffin.
Henry Waldner (Nature, 5-304):
That, April 27, 1863, he had seen great numbers of small, shining bodies passing from west to east. He had notified Dr. Wolf, of the Observatory of Zurich, who "had convinced himself of this strange phenomenon." Dr. Wolf had told him that similar bodies had been seen by Sig. Capocci, of the Capodimonte Observatory, at Naples, May 11, 1845.
The shapes were of great diversity—or different aspects of similar shapes?
Appendages were seen upon some of them.
We are told that some were star-shaped, with transparent appendages.

Hosts of small bodies—black, this time—that were seen by the astronomers Herrick, Buys-Ballot, and De Cuppis (L'Année Scientifique, 1860-25);

vast numbers of bodies that were seen by M. Lamey, to cross the moon (L'Année Scientifique, 1874-62);

another instance of dark ones; prodigious number of dark, spherical bodies reported by Messier, June 17, 1777 (Arago, Œuvres, 9-38);

considerable number of luminous bodies which appeared to move out from the sun, in diverse directions; seen at Havana, during eclipse of the sun, May 15, 1836, by Prof. Auber (Poey); M. Poey cites a similar instance, of Aug. 3, 1886;

M. Lotard's opinion that they were birds (L'Astronomie, 1886-391); large number of small bodies crossing disk of the sun, some swiftly, some slowly; most of them globular, but some seemingly triangular, and some of more complicated structure; seen by M. Trouvelet, who, whether seeds, insects, birds, or other commonplace things, had never seen anything resembling these forms (L'Année Scientifique, 1885-8);

report from the Rio de Janeiro Observatory, of vast numbers of bodies crossing the sun, some of them luminous and some of them dark, from some time in December, 1875, until Jan. 22, 1876 (La Nature, 1876-384).


Of course, at a distance, any form is likely to look round or roundish: but we point out that we have notes upon the seeming of more complex forms. In L'Astronomie, 1886-70, is recorded M. Briguiere's observation, at Marseilles, April 15 and April 25, 1883, upon the crossing of the sun by bodies that were irregular in form. Some of them moved as if in alignment.

Letter from Sir Robert Inglis to Col. Sabine (Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1849-17):
That, at 3 P.M., Aug. 8, 1849, at Gais, Switzerland, Inglis had seen thousands and thousands of brilliant white objects, like snowflakes in a cloudless sky. Though this display lasted about twenty-five minutes, not one of these seeming snowflakes was seen to fall. Inglis says that his servant "fancied" that he had seen something like wings on these—whatever they were.

Nature, 22-64:
That, at Kattenau, Germany, about half an hour before sunrise, March 22, 1880, "an enormous number of luminous bodies rose from the horizon, and passed in a horizontal direction from east to west." They are described as having appeared in a zone or belt. "They shone with a remarkably brilliant light."

Monthly Notices, 30-135:
"An unusual phenomenon noticed by Lieut. Herschel, Oct. 17 and 18, 1870, while observing the sun, at Bangalore, India."
Lieut. Herschel had noticed dark shadows crossing the sun—but away from the sun there were luminous, moving images. For two days bodies passed in a continuous stream, varying in size and velocity.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by rhino on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:18pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
[quote author=ZXLX796 link=1520497235/42#42 date=1577426129]Visitors to Venus:
Evans, Ways of the Planets, p. 140:
That, in 1645, a body large enough to look like a satellite was seen near Venus. Four times in the first half of the 18th century, a similar observation was reported. The last report occurred in 1767.
A large body has been seen—seven times, according to Science Gossip, 1886-178—near Venus. At least one astronomer, Houzeau, accepted these observations and named the—world, planet, super-construction—"Neith." His views are mentioned "in passing, but without endorsement," in the Trans. N.Y. Acad., 5-249.

Astrophysical Journal, 1-127:
A light-reflecting body, or a bright spot near Mars: seen Nov. 25, 1894, by Prof. Pickering and others, at the Lowell Observatory, above an unilluminated part of Mars—self-luminous, it would seem—thought to have been a cloud—but estimated to have been about twenty miles away from the planet.

Luminous spot seen moving across the disk of Mercury, in 1799, by Harding and Schroeter. (Monthly Notices of the R.A.S., 38-338.)

In the first Bulletin issued by the Lowell Observatory, in 1903, Prof. Lowell describes a body that was seen on the terminator of Mars, May 20, 1903. On May 27, it was "suspected." If still there, it had moved, we are told, about 300 miles—"probably a dust cloud."


In 1859, Dr. Lescarbault, an amateur astronomer, of Orgères, France, announced that, upon March 26, of that year, he had seen a body of planetary size cross the sun.
We are told that Leverrier "satisfied himself as to the substantial accuracy of the reported observation." The story of this investigation is told in Monthly Notices, 20-98

According to the Annual Register, 9-120, upon the 9th of August, 1762, M. de Rostan, of Basle, France, was taking altitudes of the sun, at Lausanne. He saw a vast, spindle-shaped body, about three of the sun's digits in breadth and nine in length, advancing slowly across the disk of the sun, or "at no more than half the velocity with which the ordinary solar spots move." It did not disappear until the 7th of September, when it reached the sun's limb.

M. Croste, at Sole, about forty-five German leagues northward from Lausanne, had seen it, describing the same spindle-form, but disagreeing a little as to breadth. Then comes the important point: that he and M. de Rostan did not see it upon the same part of the sun. This, then, is parallax, and, compounded with invisibility at Paris, is great parallax—or that, in the course of a month, in the summer of 1762, a large, opaque, spindle-shaped body traversed the disk of the sun, but at a great distance from the sun. The writer in the Register says: "In a word, we know of nothing to have recourse to, in the heavens, by which to explain this phenomenon."

That another amateur astronomer, M. Coumbray, of Constantinople, had written to Leverrier, that, upon the 8th of March, 1865, he had seen a black point, sharply outlined, traverse the disk of the sun. It detached itself from a group of sun spots near the limb of the sun, and took 48 minutes to reach the other limb. Figuring upon the diagram sent by M. Coumbray, a central passage would have taken a little more than an hour.

Haase had collected reports of twenty observations like Lescarbault's. The list was published in 1872, by Wolf. Also there are other instances like Gruthinsen's:
Amer. Jour. Sci., 2-28-446:
Report by Pastorff that he had seen twice in 1836, and once in 1837, two round spots of unequal size moving across the sun, changing position relatively to each other, and taking a different course, if not orbit, each time: that, in 1834, he had seen similar bodies pass six times across the disk of the sun, looking very much like Mercury in his transits.

In the London Times, Jan. 10, 1860, is Benjamin Scott's account of his observation:
That, in the summer of 1847, he had seen a body that had seemed to be the size of Venus, crossing the sun. He says that, hardly believing the evidence of his sense of sight, he had looked for someone, whose hopes or ambitions would not make him so subject to illusion. He had told his little son, aged five years, to look through the telescope. The child had exclaimed that he had seen "a little balloon" crossing the sun. Scott says that he had not had sufficient self-reliance to make public announcement of his remarkable observation at the time, but that, in the evening of the same day, he had told Dr. Dick, F.R.A.S., who had cited other instances. In the Times, Jan. 12, 1860, is published a letter from Richard Abbott, F.R.A.S.: that he remembered Mr. Scott's letter to him upon this observation, at the time of the occurrence.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Or the total eclipse of July 29, 1878, and the reports by Prof. Watson, from Rawlins, Wyoming, and by Prof. Swift, from Denver, Colorado: that they had seen two shining objects at a considerable distance from the sun.

Prof. Watson and Prof. Swift published their observations.

In the Observatory, 2-161, Swift says that his observations and Watson's were "confirmatory of each other."

In 1783 and 1787, Herschel reported more lights on or near the moon, which he supposed were volcanic.


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Title: Re: Solar Watch
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Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:37pm
In Notes and Queries, 2-4-139, there is an account of a darkness in Holland, in the midst of a bright day, so intense and terrifying that many panic-stricken persons lost their lives stumbling into the canals.

Gentleman's Magazine, 33-414:
A darkness that came upon London, Aug. 19, 1763, "greater than at the great eclipse of 1748."

Monthly Weather Review, March, 1886-79:
That, according to the La Crosse Daily Republican, of March 20, 1886, darkness suddenly settled upon the city of Oshkosh, Wis., at 3 P.M., March 19. In five minutes the darkness equaled that of midnight.

A darkness, of April 17, 1904, at Wimbledon, England (Symons' Met. Mag., 39-69). It came from a smokeless region: no rain, no thunder; lasted 10 minutes; too dark to go "even out in the open."

As to darknesses in Great Britain, one thinks of fogs—but in Nature, 25-289, there are some observations by Major J. Herschel, upon an obscuration in London, Jan. 22, 1882, at 10:30 A.M., so great that he could hear persons upon the opposite side of the street, but could not see them—"It was obvious that there was no fog to speak of."

Annual Register, 1857-132:
An account by Charles A. Murray, British Envoy to Persia, of a darkness of May 20, 1857, that came upon Bagdad—"a darkness more intense than ordinary midnight, when neither stars nor moon are visible...." "After a short time the black darkness was succeeded by a red, lurid gloom, such as I never saw in any part of the world."

In Nature, 20-121, there is an account by Mr. S.W. Clifton, Collector of Customs, at Freemantle, Western Australia, sent to the Melbourne Observatory—a clear day—appearance of a small black cloud, moving not very swiftly—bursting into a ball of fire, of the apparent size of the moon—

Nature, 7-112:
That, according to a correspondent to the Birmingham Morning News, the people living near King's Sutton, Banbury, saw, about one o'clock, Dec. 7, 1872, something like a haycock hurtling through the air. Like a meteor it was accompanied by fire and a dense smoke and made a noise like that of a railway train. "It was sometimes high in the air and sometimes near the ground." The effect was tornado-like: trees and walls were knocked down. It's a late day now to try to verify this story, but a list is given of persons whose property was injured. We are told that this thing then disappeared "all at once."


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:40pm
Earthquake

"preceded" by

a violent tempest, England, Jan. 8, 1704—

"preceded" by a brilliant meteor, Switzerland, Nov. 4, 1704—

"luminous cloud, moving at high velocity, disappearing behind the horizon," Florence, Dec. 9, 1731—

"thick mists in the air, through which a dim light was seen: several weeks before the shock, globes of light had been seen in the air," Swabia, May 22, 1732—

rain of earth, Carpentras, France, Oct. 18, 1737—

a black cloud, London, March 19, 1750—

violent storm and a strange star of octagonal shape, Slavange, Norway, April 15, 1752—

balls of fire from a streak in the sky, Augermannland, 1752—

numerous meteorites, Lisbon, Oct. 15, 1755—"terrible tempests" over and over—

"falls of hail" and "brilliant meteors," instance after instance—

"an immense globe," Switzerland, Nov. 2, 1761—

oblong, sulphurous cloud, Germany, April, 1767—

extraordinary mass of vapor, Boulogne, April, 1780—

heavens obscured by a dark mist, Grenada, Aug. 7, 1804—

"strange, howling noises in the air, and large spots obscuring the sun," Palermo, Italy, April 16, 1817—

"luminous meteor moving in the same direction as the shock," Naples, Nov. 22, 1821—

fire ball appearing in the sky: apparent size of the moon, Thuringerwald, Nov. 29, 1831

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:40pm

PZ547 wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:37pm:
In Notes and Queries, 2-4-139, there is an account of a darkness in Holland, in the midst of a bright day, so intense and terrifying that many panic-stricken persons lost their lives stumbling into the canals.

Gentleman's Magazine, 33-414:
A darkness that came upon London, Aug. 19, 1763, "greater than at the great eclipse of 1748."

Monthly Weather Review, March, 1886-79:
That, according to the La Crosse Daily Republican, of March 20, 1886, darkness suddenly settled upon the city of Oshkosh, Wis., at 3 P.M., March 19. In five minutes the darkness equaled that of midnight.

A darkness, of April 17, 1904, at Wimbledon, England (Symons' Met. Mag., 39-69). It came from a smokeless region: no rain, no thunder; lasted 10 minutes; too dark to go "even out in the open."

As to darknesses in Great Britain, one thinks of fogs—but in Nature, 25-289, there are some observations by Major J. Herschel, upon an obscuration in London, Jan. 22, 1882, at 10:30 A.M., so great that he could hear persons upon the opposite side of the street, but could not see them—"It was obvious that there was no fog to speak of."

Annual Register, 1857-132:
An account by Charles A. Murray, British Envoy to Persia, of a darkness of May 20, 1857, that came upon Bagdad—"a darkness more intense than ordinary midnight, when neither stars nor moon are visible...." "After a short time the black darkness was succeeded by a red, lurid gloom, such as I never saw in any part of the world."

In Nature, 20-121, there is an account by Mr. S.W. Clifton, Collector of Customs, at Freemantle, Western Australia, sent to the Melbourne Observatory—a clear day—appearance of a small black cloud, moving not very swiftly—bursting into a ball of fire, of the apparent size of the moon—

Nature, 7-112:
That, according to a correspondent to the Birmingham Morning News, the people living near King's Sutton, Banbury, saw, about one o'clock, Dec. 7, 1872, something like a haycock hurtling through the air. Like a meteor it was accompanied by fire and a dense smoke and made a noise like that of a railway train. "It was sometimes high in the air and sometimes near the ground." The effect was tornado-like: trees and walls were knocked down. It's a late day now to try to verify this story, but a list is given of persons whose property was injured. We are told that this thing then disappeared "all at once."


the FACT is , we have been lied to .. and if you think for yourself the sheep try to keep you bleating like them ..some have said

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Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 5:57pm
In the Canadian Institute Proceedings, 2-7-198, there is an account, by the Deputy Commissioner at Dhurmsalla, of the extraordinary Dhurmsalla meteorite—coated with ice. But the combination of events related by him is still more extraordinary:
That within a few months of the fall of this meteorite there had been a fall of live fishes at Benares, a shower of red substance at Furruckabad, a dark spot observed on the disk of the sun, an earthquake, "an unnatural darkness of some duration," and a luminous appearance in the sky that looked like an aurora borealis—

The Deputy Commissioner writes that, in the evening, after the fall of the Dhurmsalla meteorite, or mass of stone covered with ice, he saw lights. "I am sure that they were neither fire balloons, lanterns, nor bonfires, or any other thing of that sort, but bona fide lights in the heavens."

It is said that, in an earthquake in Calabria, paving stones shot up far in the air.

The corpses of Riobamba.
Humboldt reported that, in the quake of Riobamba, "bodies were torn upward from graves"; that "the vertical motion was so strong that bodies were tossed several hundred feet in the air."

The quay of Lisbon.
We are told that it went down.
A vast throng of persons ran to the quay for refuge. The city of Lisbon was in profound darkness. The quay and all the people on it disappeared. If it and they went down—not a single corpse, not a shred of clothing, not a plank of the quay, nor so much as a splinter of it ever floated to the surface.

In the Zoologist, 3-18-21, is recorded an instance of a bird (puffin) that had fallen to the ground with a fractured head. Interesting, but mere speculation—but what solid object, high in the air, had that bird struck against?

Tremendous red rain in France, Oct. 16 and 17, 1846; great storm at the time, and red rain supposed to have been colored by matter swept up from this earth's surface, and then precipitated (Comptes Rendus, 23-832). But in Comptes Rendus, 24-625, the description of this red rain differs from one's impression of red, sandy or muddy water. It is said that this rain was so vividly red and so blood-like that many persons in France were terrified. Two analyses are given (Comptes Rendus, 24-812). One chemist notes a great quantity of corpuscles—whether blood-like corpuscles or not—in the matter. The other chemist sets down organic matter at 35 per cent.

That, upon the 10th of April, 1869, at Autriche (Indre-et-Loire) a great number of oak leaves—enormous segregation of them—fell from the sky. Very calm day. So little wind that the leaves fell almost vertically. Fall lasted about ten minutes.

La Nature, 1889-2-94:
That, upon April 19, 1889, dried leaves, of different species, oak, elm, etc., fell from the sky. This day, too, was a calm day. The fall was tremendous. The leaves were seen to fall fifteen minutes, but, judging from the quantity on the ground, it is the writer's opinion that they had already been falling half an hour.

L'Astronomie, 1894-194:
That, upon the 7th of April, 1894, dried leaves fell at Clairvaux and Outre-Aube, France. The fall is described as prodigious. Half an hour. Then, upon the 11th, a fall of dried leaves occurred at Pontcarré.

Inspiration:
That there may be a nearby world complementary to this world, where autumn occurs at the time that is springtime here.

Notes and Queries, 8-12-228:
That in the province of Macerata, Italy (summer of 1897?) an immense number of small, blood-colored clouds covered the sky. About an hour later a storm broke, and myriad seeds fell to the ground. It is said that they were identified as products of a tree found only in Central Africa and the Antilles.
If—in terms of conventional reasoning—these seeds had been high in the air, they had been in a cold region. But it is our acceptance that these seeds had, for a considerable time, been in a warm region, and for a time longer than is attributable to suspension by wind-power:
"It is said that a great number of the seeds were in the first stage of germination."


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:03pm
In the Observatory, 35-168, it is said that, according to a newspaper, March 6, 1912, residents of Warmley, England, were greatly excited by something that was supposed to be "a splendidly illuminated aeroplane, passing over the village." "The machine was apparently traveling at a tremendous rate, and came from the direction of Bath, and went on toward Gloucester." The Editor says that it was a large, triple-headed fireball. "Tremendous indeed!" he says. "But we are prepared for anything nowadays."

Nature, Oct. 27, 1898:
A correspondent writes that, in the County Wicklow, Ireland, at about 6 o'clock in the evening, he had seen, in the sky, an object that looked like the moon in its three-quarter aspect. We note the shape which approximates to triangularity, and we note that in color it is said to have been golden yellow. It moved slowly, and in about five minutes disappeared behind a mountain.

In Nature, Aug. 11, 1898, there is a story, taken from the July number of the Canadian Weather Review, by the meteorologist, F.F. Payne: that he had seen, in the Canadian sky, a large, pear-shaped object, sailing rapidly. At first he supposed that the object was a balloon, "its outline being sharply defined." "But, as no cage was seen, it was concluded that it must be a mass of cloud." In about six minutes this object became less definite—whether because of increasing distance or not—"the mass became less dense, and finally it disappeared." As to cyclonic formation—"no whirling motion could be seen."

Nature, 58-294:
That, upon July 8, 1898, a correspondent had seen, at Kiel, an object in the sky, colored red by the sun, which had set. It was about as broad as a rainbow, and about twelve degrees high. "It remained in its original brightness about five minutes, and then faded rapidly, and then remained almost stationary again, finally disappearing about eight minutes after I first saw it."

London Times, Sept. 29, 1885:
A clipping from the Royal Gazette, of Bermuda, of Sept. 8, 1885, sent to the Times by General Lefroy:
That, upon Aug. 27, 1885, at about 8:30 A.M., there was observed by Mrs. Adelina D. Bassett, "a strange object in the clouds, coming from the north." She called the attention of Mrs. L. Lowell to it, and they were both somewhat alarmed. However, they continued to watch the object steadily for some time. It drew nearer. It was of triangular shape, and seemed to be about the size of a pilot-boat mainsail, with chains attached to the bottom of it. While crossing the land it had appeared to descend, but, as it went out to sea, it ascended, and continued to ascend, until it was lost to sight high in the clouds.

In Nature, 90-169, Charles Tilden Smith writes that, at Chisbury, Wiltshire, England, April 8, 1912, he saw something in the sky—
"—unlike anything that I had ever seen before."
"Although I have studied the skies for many years, I have never seen anything like it."
He saw two stationary dark patches upon clouds.
The extraordinary part:
They were stationary upon clouds that were rapidly moving.
They were fan-shaped—or triangular—and varied in size, but kept the same position upon different clouds as cloud after cloud came along. For more than half an hour Mr. Smith watched these dark patches—

Scientific American, 46-49:
Two triangular, luminous appearances reported by several observers in Lebanon, Conn., evening of July 3, 1882, on the moon's upper limb. They disappeared, and two dark triangular appearances that looked like notches were seen three minutes later upon the lower limb. They approached each other, met and instantly disappeared.

Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1854-410:
Account by two observers of a faint but distinctly triangular object, visible for six nights in the sky. It was observed from two stations that were not far apart. But the parallax was considerable. Whatever it was, it was, acceptably, relatively close to this earth.

Lancet, June 1, 1867:
That every night for a week, a light had appeared in Woburn Square, London, upon the grass of a small park, enclosed by railings. Crowds gathering—police called out "for the special service of maintaining order and making the populace move on."

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:08pm
That, at midnight, Feb. 24, 1885, Lat. 37° N., and Long. 170° E., or somewhere between Yokohama and Victoria, the captain of the bark Innerwich was aroused by his mate, who had seen something unusual in the sky. This must have taken appreciable time. The captain went on deck and saw the sky turning fiery red. "All at once, a large mass of fire appeared over the vessel, completely blinding the spectators." The fiery mass fell into the sea. Its size may be judged by the volume of water cast up by it, said to have rushed toward the vessel with a noise that was "deafening." The bark was struck flat aback, and "a roaring, white sea passed ahead." "The master, an old, experienced mariner, declared that the awfulness of the sight was beyond description."

That, upon June 18, 1845, according to the Malta Times, from the brig Victoria, about 900 miles east of Adalia, Asia Minor (36° 40' 56", N. Lat.: 13° 44' 36" E. Long.), three luminous bodies were seen to issue from the sea, at about half a mile from the vessel. They were visible about ten minutes.

In the Report of the British Association, 1860-82, the phenomenon was reported from Syria and Malta, as two very large bodies "nearly joined."
Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1860-77:
That, at Cherbourg, France, Jan. 12, 1836, was seen a luminous body, seemingly two-thirds the size of the moon. It seemed to rotate on an axis. Central to it there seemed to be a dark cavity.

L'Astronomie, 1894-157:
That, upon the morning of Dec. 20, 1893, an appearance in the sky was seen by many persons in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina. A luminous body passed overhead, from west to east, until at about 15 degrees in the eastern horizon, it appeared to stand still for fifteen or twenty minutes. According to some descriptions it was the size of a table. To some observers it looked like an enormous wheel. The light was a brilliant white. Acceptably it was not an optical illusion—the noise of its passage through the air was heard. Having been stationary, or having seemed to stand still fifteen or twenty minutes, it disappeared, or exploded. No sound of explosion was heard.

Nature, 21-410:
Reprint of a letter from R.E. Harris, Commander of the A.H.N. Co.'s steamship Shahjehan, to the Calcutta Englishman, Jan. 21, 1880:
That upon the 5th of June, 1880, off the coast of Malabar, at 10 P.M., water calm, sky cloudless, he had seen something that was so foreign to anything that he had ever seen before, that he had stopped his ship. He saw what he describes as waves of brilliant light, with spaces between. Upon the water were floating patches of a substance that was not identified. Thinking in terms of the conventional explanation of all phosphorescence at sea, the captain at first suspected this substance. However, he gives his opinion that it did no illuminating but was, with the rest of the sea, illuminated by tremendous shafts of light. Whether it was a thick and oily discharge from the engine of a submerged construction or not, I think that I shall have to accept this substance as a concomitant, because of another note. "As wave succeeded wave, one of the most grand and brilliant, yet solemn, spectacles that one could think of, was here witnessed."

Jour. Roy. Met. Soc., 32-280:
Extract from a letter from Mr. Douglas Carnegie, Blackheath, England. Date some time in 1906—
"This last voyage we witnessed a weird and most extraordinary electric display." In the Gulf of Oman, he saw a bank of apparently quiescent phosphorescence: but, when within twenty yards of it, "shafts of brilliant light came sweeping across the ship's bows at a prodigious speed, which might be put down as anything between 60 and 200 miles an hour." "These light bars were about 20 feet apart and most regular." As to phosphorescence—"I collected a bucketful of water, and examined it under the microscope, but could not detect anything abnormal." That the shafts of light came up from something beneath the surface—"They first struck us on our broadside, and I noticed that an intervening ship had no effect on the light beams: they started away from the lee side of the ship, just as if they had traveled right through it."
The Gulf of Oman is at the entrance to the Persian Gulf.

Jour. Roy. Met. Soc., 33-294:
Extract from a letter by Mr. S.C. Patterson, second officer of the P. and O. steamship Delta: a spectacle which the Journal continues to call phosphorescent:

Malacca Strait, 2 A.M., March 14, 1907:
"... shafts which seemed to move round a center—like the spokes of a wheel—and appeared to be about 300 yards long. The phenomenon lasted about half an hour, during which time the ship had traveled six or seven miles. It stopped suddenly."

L'Astronomie, 1891-312:
A correspondent writes that, in October, 1891, in the China Sea, he had seen shafts or lances of light that had had the appearance of rays of a searchlight, and that had moved like such rays.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm
Nature, 20-291:
Report to the Admiralty by Capt. Evans, the Hydrographer of the British Navy:
That Commander J.E. Pringle, of H.M.S. Vulture, had reported that, at Lat. 26° 26' N., and Long. 53° 11' E.—in the Persian Gulf—May 15, 1879, he had noticed luminous waves or pulsations in the water, moving at great speed. This time we have a definite datum upon origin somewhere below the surface. It is said that these waves of light passed under the Vulture. "On looking toward the east, the appearance was that of a revolving wheel with a center on that bearing, and whose spokes were illuminated, and, looking toward the west, a similar wheel appeared to be revolving, but in the opposite direction." Or finally as to submergence—"These waves of light extended from the surface well under the water." It is Commander Pringle's opinion that the shafts constituted one wheel, and that doubling was an illusion. He judges the shafts to have been about 25 feet broad, and the spaces about 100. Velocity about 84 miles an hour. Duration about 35 minutes. Time 9:40 P.M. Before and after this display the ship had passed through patches of floating substance described as "oily-looking fish spawn."
Upon page 428 of this number of Nature, E.L. Moss says that, in April, 1875, when upon H.M.S. Bulldog, a few miles north of Vera Cruz, he had seen a series of swift lines of light. He had dipped up some of the water, finding in it animalcule, which would, however, not account for phenomena of geometric formation and high velocity. If he means Vera Cruz, Mexico, this is the only instance we have out of oriental waters.

Scientific American, 106-51:
That, in the Nautical Meteorological Annual, published by the Danish Meteorological Institute, appears a report upon a "singular phenomenon" that was seen by Capt. Gabe, of the Danish East Asiatic Co.'s steamship Bintang. At 3 A.M., June 10, 1909, while sailing through the Straits of Malacca, Captain Gabe saw a vast revolving wheel of light, flat upon the water—"long arms issuing from a center around which the whole system appeared to rotate." So vast was the appearance that only half of it could be seen at a time, the center lying near the horizon. This display lasted about fifteen minutes.

The Danish Meteorological Institute reports another instance:
That, when Capt. Breyer, of the Dutch steamer Valentijn, was in the South China Sea, midnight, Aug. 12, 1910, he saw a rotation of flashes. "It looked like a horizontal wheel, turning rapidly." This time it is said that the appearance was above water. "The phenomenon was observed by the captain, the first and second mates, and the first engineer, and upon all of them it made a somewhat uncomfortable impression."

Athenæum, 1848-833:
That at the meeting of the British Association, 1848, Sir W.S. Harris said that he had recorded an account sent to him of a vessel toward which had whirled "two wheels of fire, which the men described as rolling millstones of fire." "When they came near, an awful crash took place: the topmasts were shivered to pieces." It is said that there was a strong sulphurous odor.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:13pm
Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society, 1-157:
Extract from the log of the bark Lady of the Lake, by Capt. F.W. Banner:
Communicated by R.H. Scott, F.R.S.:
That, upon the 22nd of March, 1870, at Lat. 5° 47' N., Long. 27° 52' W., the sailors of the Lady of the Lake saw a remarkable object, or "cloud," in the sky. They reported to the captain.
According to Capt. Banner, it was a cloud of circular form, with an included semi-circle divided into four parts, the central dividing shaft beginning at the center of the circle and extending far outward, and then curving backward.
Geometricity and complexity and stability of form: and the small likelihood of a cloud maintaining such diversity of features, to say nothing of appearance of organic form.
The thing traveled from a point at about 20 degrees above the horizon to a point about 80 degrees above. Then it settled down to the northeast, having appeared from the south, southeast.
Light gray in color, or it was cloud-color.
"It was much lower than the other clouds."
And this datum stands out:
That, whatever it may have been, it traveled against the wind.
"It came up obliquely against the wind, and finally settled down right in the wind's eye."
For half an hour this form was visible. When it did finally disappear that was not because it disintegrated like a cloud, but because it was lost to sight in the evening darkness.

An account by M. Acharius, in the Transactions of the Swedish Academy of Sciences, 1808-215, translated for the North American Review, 3-319:
That M. Acharius, having heard of "an extraordinary and probably hitherto unseen phenomenon," reported from near the town of Skeninge, Sweden, investigated:
That, upon the 16th of May, 1808, at about 4 P.M., the sun suddenly turned dull brick-red. At the same time there appeared, upon the western horizon, a great number of round bodies, dark brown, and seemingly the size of a hat crown. They passed overhead and disappeared in the eastern horizon. Tremendous procession. It lasted two hours. Occasionally one fell to the ground. When the place of a fall was examined, there was found a film, which soon dried and vanished. Often, when approaching the sun, these bodies seemed to link together, or were then seen to be linked together, in groups not exceeding eight, and, under the sun, they were seen to have tails three or four fathoms long. Away from the sun the tails were invisible. Whatever their substance may have been, it is described as gelatinous—"soapy and jellied."

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:14pm
related in the Monthly Weather Review, March, 1887—something that fell luminously from the sky, accompanied by something that was not so affected, or that was dark:

That, according to Capt. C.D. Sweet, of the Dutch bark, J.P.A., upon March 19, 1887, N. 37° 39', W. 57° 00', he encountered a severe storm. He saw two objects in the air above the ship. One was luminous, and might be explained in several ways, but the other was dark. One or both fell into the sea, with a roar and the casting up of billows. It is our acceptance that these things had entered this earth's atmosphere, having first crashed through a field of ice—"immediately afterward lumps of ice fell."

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:20pm
At the meeting of Nov. 24, 1906, of the Essex Field Club, was exhibited a piece of metal said to have fallen from the sky, Oct. 9, 1906, at Braintree. According to the Essex Naturalist, Dr. Fletcher, of the British Museum, had declared this metal to be smelted iron—"so that the mystery of its reported 'fall' remained unexplained."

"Most extraordinary and singular phenomenon," North Wales, Aug. 26, 1894; a disk from which projected an orange-colored body that looked like "an elongated flatfish," reported by Admiral Ommanney (Nature, 50-524);

disk from which projected a hook-like form, India, about 1838;

diagram of it given; disk about size of the moon, but brighter than the moon; visible about twenty minutes; by G. Pettit, in Prof. Baden-Powell's Catalogue (Rept. Brit. Assoc., 1849);

very brilliant hook-like form, seen in the sky at Poland, Trumbull Co., Ohio, during the stream of meteors, of 1833;

visible more than an hour: large luminous body, almost stationary "for a time"; shaped like a square table;

Niagara Falls, Nov. 13, 1833 (Amer. Jour. Sci., 1-25-391); something described as a bright white cloud, at night, Nov. 3, 1886, at Hamar, Norway; from it were emitted brilliant rays of light; drifted across the sky; "retained throughout its original form" (Nature, Dec. 16, 1886-158);

thing with an oval nucleus, and streamers with dark bands and lines very suggestive of structure; New Zealand, May 4, 1888 (Nature, 42-402);

luminous object, size of full moon, visible an hour and a half, Chili, Nov. 5, 1883 (Comptes Rendus, 103-682);

bright object near sun, Dec. 21, 1882 (Knowledge, 3-13);

light that looked like a great flame, far out at sea, off Ryook Phyoo, Dec. 2, 1845 (London Roy. Soc. Proc., 5-627);

something like a gigantic trumpet, suspended, vertical, oscillating gently, visible five or six minutes, length estimated at 425 feet, at Oaxaca, Mexico, July 6, 1874 (Sci. Am. Sup., 6-2365);

two luminous bodies, seemingly united, visible five or six minutes, June 3, 1898 (La Nature, 1898-1-127);

thing with a tail, crossing moon, transit half a minute, Sept. 26, 1870 (London Times, Sept. 30, 1870);

object four or five times size of moon, moving slowly across sky, Nov. 1, 1885, near Adrianople (L'Astronomie, 1886-309);

large body, colored red, moving slowly, visible 15 minutes, reported by Coggia, Marseilles, Aug. 1, 1871 (Chem. News, 24-193); details of this observation, and similar observation by Guillemin, and other instances by de Fonville (Comptes Rendus, 73-297, 755);

thing that was large and that was stationary twice in seven minutes, Oxford, Nov. 19, 1847; listed by Lowe (Rec. Sci., 1-136);

grayish object that looked to be about three and a half feet long, rapidly approaching the earth at Saarbruck, April 1, 1826; sound like thunder;

object expanding like a sheet (Am. Jour. Sci., 1-26-133; Quar. Jour. Roy. Inst., 24-488); report by an astronomer, N.S. Drayton, upon an object duration of which seemed to him extraordinary; duration three-quarters of a minute, Jersey City, July 6, 1882 (Sci. Amer., 47-53);

object like a comet, but with proper motion of 10 degrees an hour; visible one hour; reported by Purine and Glancy from the Cordoba Observatory, Argentina, March 14, 1916 (Sci. Amer., 115-493);

something like a signal light, reported by Glaisher, Oct. 4, 1844; bright as Jupiter, "sending out quick flickering waves of light" (Year Book of Facts, 1845-278).

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:27pm
Nature, 40-415:
That, Aug. 5, 1889, during a violent storm, an object that looked to be about 15 inches long and 5 inches wide, fell, rather slowly, at East Twickenham, England. It exploded. No substance from it was found.

L'Année Scientifique, 1864-54:
That, Oct. 10, 1864, M. Leverrier had sent to the Academy three letters from witnesses of a long luminous body, tapering at both ends, that had been seen in the sky.

In Thunder and Lightning, p. 87, Flammarion says that on Aug. 20, 1880, during a rather violent storm, M.A. Trécul, of the French Academy, saw a very brilliant yellowish-white body, apparently 35 to 40 centimeters long, and about 25 centimeters wide. Torpedo-shaped. Or a cylindrical body, "with slightly conical ends." It dropped something, and disappeared in the clouds. Whatever it may have been that was dropped, it fell vertically, like a heavy object, and left a luminous train. The scene of this occurrence may have been far from the observer. No sound was heard. For M. Trécul's account, see Comptes Rendus, 103-849.

Notes and Queries, 5-3-306:
About 8 lights that were seen in Wales, over an area of about 8 miles, all keeping their own ground, whether moving together perpendicularly, horizontally, or over a zigzag course. They looked like electric lights—disappearing, reappearing dimly, then shining as bright as ever. "We have seen them three or four at a time afterward, on four or five occasions."

London Times, Oct. 5, 1877:
"From time to time the west coast of Wales seems to have been the scene of mysterious lights.... And now we have a statement from Towyn that within the last few weeks lights of various colors have been seen moving over the estuary of the Dysynni River, and out to sea. They are generally in a northerly direction, but sometimes they hug the shore, and move at high velocity for miles toward Aberdovey, and suddenly disappear."

L'Année Scientifique, 1877-45:
Lights that appeared in the sky, above Vence, France, March 23, 1877; described as balls of fire of dazzling brightness; appeared from a cloud about a degree in diameter; moved relatively slowly. They were visible more than an hour, moving northward. It is said that eight or ten years before similar lights or objects had been seen in the sky, at Vence.

London Times, Sept. 19, 1848:
That, at Inverness, Scotland, two large, bright lights that looked like stars had been seen in the sky: sometimes stationary, but occasionally moving at high velocity.

L'Année Scientifique, 1888-66:
Observed near St. Petersburg, July 30, 1880, in the evening: a large spherical light and two smaller ones, moving along a ravine: visible three minutes; disappearing without noise.
Nature, 35-173:

That, at Yloilo, Sept. 30, 1886, was seen a luminous object the size of the full moon. It "floated" slowly "northward," followed by smaller ones close to it.
"The False Lights of Durham."

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:45pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:17am:
Flat Earthers hold conference in Auckland, with speakers from around the globe.

;D



There is also the problem of much of what Light has posted here contradicts the "proof" for the flat earth he's posted in other threads.

Facts matter.


and the above is basically what you will get if sad one gets to moderate here

just inane banter and egoistic vitriol ..

when many prefer fringe topics and content uncensored *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKnigXckL8

Half of the Earth sees TRUE "Sky Phenomenon" today!


we get to see an amazing sky phenomenon , Solar Eclipse here !

because we discard and dismiss spammers and stick to the thread topic .. see how that works ??  :o

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


Really?

You have posted flat earth content that says the sun is 5000 miles away from the earth, yet in this thread you reference the sun as being the scientifically accepted distance away and factoring that in to the time a sme would reach us etc based on the sun's activity.

You've clearly contradicted yourself.

You keep taking about how you apparently value facts and evidence and that's what you post, but clearly these two conflicting point means one is wrong.

People deserve to know the truth.

I thought you of all people would support that?


well this just supports how clueless you are on fringe topics ..

here is a model that works as well .. do you deny it sad one ?



again I am open minded and include all possibilities

you on the other hand are stuck with your programming

you cannot get past it .. which is not your fault .. yet you need to expand your thinking if that's something you wish to do

.. yet either way be at peace

namaste


One model is true, the other isn't.

There isn't much to get past.  You just want to pick and choose which ever one you want, changing your mind whenever you need the other to support something else you're claiming.

I'll take reality thanks.



you have never been to space so how can you know ?

you have been programed with a globe in the classroom and a " moon landing " by stanley kubrick on the tell a lie vision  .. it seems they did a great job on you ..

are you mad with me for speaking the truth ?

are you prone to abuse one such as I am in this moment ?


I'm not mad at you, I'm saying, for the very same reasons you're attacking me, that you can't speak of "the truth" either.

Have you been to space?

You have a theory, great.  I've explained many of the supporting "proofs" you claim substantiate your theory (which is actually a hypothesis, not a theory) but you choose to ignore them, instead preferring your version of events, such as continually claiming the earth is flat.

Basically, your quest for answers is derailed by your own ignorance and lack of understanding, so you substitute fairy tails you can understand as if they're fact.  You want answers so badly that you'll accept anything, especially if that means you think you're right

This is where we butt heads.

And to support those fairy tales you need to invent conspiracies like NASA is hiding the truth, anyone who speaks out, scientists include are paid shills etc and you borrow scientific ideas like extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and bastardise them to disprove, in your mind, things you don't like.

Again, another reason we butt heads.

And at no time do you apply those "rules" to the things you believe.  They are true because you want them to be, not because they are.

Heads butting, again.

This is certainly the forum for it, but like your solar watch vs flat earth, you're hardly ever consistent and always caught contradicting yourself and having your hypocrisy exposed, so much so that the next thing you'll do is dredge up old posts from the past in an effort to escape the utter evisceration you've endured by personally attacking those who've butchered you, metaphorically.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:59pm
the basic thing as you refuse to look at measurements and anomalies

that does not bother me because your confusion and compartmentalized mentality is not my problem ,

yet you continue to obsess about your confusions ..which is ok and cool

are you going to start abusing me for it ?  :o


SadKangaroo wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
God damn I'm about to start abusing you... I'm not trolling I'm asking you questions about your supposed fake news reports.

All I want to know is what part of the video do you think shows and proves fake news?

Are they staging the location, is it a blue screen or is it the contents of their report? Or all?

Thanks.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1491791473/210

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by PZ547 on Dec 27th, 2019 at 7:22pm
In the Report of the British Association, 1877-152, there is a description of a group of "meteors" that traveled with "remarkable slowness." They were in sight about three minutes. "Remarkable," it seems, is scarcely strong enough: one reads of "remarkable" as applied to a duration of three seconds. These "meteors" had another peculiarity; they left no train. They are described as "seemingly huddled together like a flock of wild geese, and moving with the same velocity and grace of regularity."

Jour. Roy. Astro. Soc. of Canada, November and December, 1913:
That, according to many observations collected by Prof. Chant, of Toronto, there appeared, upon the night of Feb. 9, 1913, a spectacle that was seen in Canada, the United States, and at sea, and in Bermuda. A luminous body was seen. To it there was a long tail. The body grew rapidly larger. "Observers differ as to whether the body was single, or was composed of three or four parts, with a tail to each part." The group, or complex structure, moved with "a peculiar, majestic deliberation." "It disappeared in the distance, and another group emerged from its place of origin. Onward they moved, at the same deliberate pace, in twos or threes or fours." They disappeared. A third group, or a third structure, followed.
Some observers compared the spectacle to a fleet of airships: others to battleships attended by cruisers and destroyers.
According to one writer:
"There were probably 30 or 32 bodies, and the peculiar thing about them was their moving in fours and threes and twos, abreast of one another; and so perfect was the lining up that you would have thought it was an aerial fleet maneuvering after rigid drilling."

Nature, May 25, 1893:
A letter from Capt. Charles J. Norcock, of H.M.S. Caroline:
That, upon the 24th of February, 1893, at 10 p.m., between Shanghai and Japan, the officer of the watch had reported "some unusual lights."
They were between the ship and a mountain. The mountain was about 6,000 feet high. The lights seemed to be globular. They moved sometimes massed, but sometimes strung out in an irregular line. They bore "northward," until lost to sight. Duration two hours.
The next night the lights were seen again.
They were, for a time, eclipsed by a small island. They bore north at about the same speed and in about the same direction as speed and direction of the Caroline. But they were lights that cast a reflection: there was a glare upon the horizon under them. A telescope brought out but few details: that they were reddish, and seemed to emit a faint smoke. This time the duration was seven and a half hours.
Then Capt. Norcock says that, in the same general locality, and at about the same time, Capt. Castle, of H.M.S. Leander, had seen lights. He had altered his course and had made toward them. The lights had fled from him. At least, they had moved higher in the sky.

Monthly Weather Review, March, 1904-115:
Report from the observations of three members of his crew by Lieut. Frank H. Schofield, U.S.N, of the U.S.S. Supply:
Feb. 24, 1904. Three luminous objects, of different sizes, the largest having an apparent area of about six suns. When first sighted, they were not very high. They were below clouds of an estimated height of about one mile.
They fled, or they evaded, or they turned.
They went up into the clouds below which they had, at first, been sighted.
Their unison of movement.
But they were of different sizes, and of different susceptibilities to all forces of this earth and of the air.


Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 28th, 2019 at 10:46am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 6:59pm:
the basic thing as you refuse to look at measurements and anomalies

that does not bother me because your confusion and compartmentalized mentality is not my problem ,

yet you continue to obsess about your confusions ..which is ok and cool

are you going to start abusing me for it ?  :o


SadKangaroo wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
God damn I'm about to start abusing you... I'm not trolling I'm asking you questions about your supposed fake news reports.

All I want to know is what part of the video do you think shows and proves fake news?

Are they staging the location, is it a blue screen or is it the contents of their report? Or all?

Thanks.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1491791473/210


Are you falsely accusing me of it again?

If so I might as well right, double jeopardy and all?

Nah, but that's what you want. For all your attacks of those you disagree with, you play the victim card more than the rest combined.

Title: Re: Solar Watch
Post by freediver on May 23rd, 2026 at 11:04am
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