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Title: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 7th, 2018 at 9:33am
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Well worth a listen, during which he correctly points out that there's no such thing as 'Islamism' ~ it's all just 'Islam'. That's why Islamic scholars have been saying that ISIS have not been committing heresy with their beheadings and militant behaviour. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:33am Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 9:33am:
I have not heard a Muslim yet who doesn't condemn ISIS, Herbie. You? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:46am Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:33am:
You're a lying worthless Muslim donkey. Flag used by Islamic State auctioned in Sydney for $2,000 A flag often seen used by Islamic State militants has been auctioned off at a packed mosque in Western Sydney https://www.sbs.com.au/news/flag-used-by-islamic-state-auctioned-in-sydney-for-2-000 |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:04am Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:46am:
Actually, you're right. There was Man Monis. He hung up their flag. Anybody else, dear? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:07am Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:04am:
Are you telling me there are no Muslims in Sydney with ISIS sympathies? Shall we lock that answer in, Eddie, or would you like to phone a friend? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:20am Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:07am:
No, Gordon, I'm telling you I have never met or heard one Muslim who hasn't condemned ISIS and said it's completely un-Islamic. Apart from Man Monis. You? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:26am Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:20am:
We don't care about your personal anecdotes. We know Western Sydney is full of Islamists. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:35am Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:26am:
Met one, have you? We care about your personal anecdotes, Gordon. That's what we come here to discuss. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by issuevoter on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:54am Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 9:33am:
President Erdogan of Turkey agrees with this definition. Islam is Islam. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:00pm
Gad Saad is a joy to listen to on any subject.
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Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by freediver on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:06pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:20am:
How do you know Karnal? Do you always ask Muslims you meet whether they support ISIS? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:14pm freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
He always sees the best in people. Chucking a faggot off a building, nah, free bungey jumping, sans bungey. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:33pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 10:33am:
That's good, but the fact still remains that those with an ISIS mentality are not deemed to be heretics by the very same people you and I find to be likeable moderate Muslims. And as this Lebanese Jew points out, it's not 'radical' Islam when certain Muslims decide to bomb civilian targets - it's just 'Islam' from another part of their sacred text. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:51pm
Herb, did you listen to the entire podcast with Joe and Gaad?
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Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:29pm freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
No, I usually see them on TV. I did, however, chat to one bearded numptie in a professional capacity. He freely offered his views on ISIS. He said they're not Muslim. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:53pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:29pm:
He's actually wrong. They're in fact very Muslim. Just because he doesn't like them dwelling on particular aspects of his religion doesn't make it so. Perhaps he should suggest a reformation of his religion to expunge it from the nasty bits? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:56pm Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
That's right, folks: Gordon will determine who is and who isn't a Muslim thank you very much. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
ISIS aren't Muslim. Is that your final answer? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:05pm Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Is the Pope Catholic? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:05pm:
Gay and bi-curious. We know. Don't tell a Muslim unless you want to get chucked of a building. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Oh, and just in case you are wondering how Gordy knows what religion his ISIS friends are, they said so! Yes, that's right - those murdering bastards who cut people's heads off and throw people like Sir Booby off the top of tall buildings have admitted it themselves. It's not like they're dishonourable people who would actually lie, is it now? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Secret Wars on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:20pm
Heheheh, hilarious. Forum apologists.
ISIS got nuffin to do wiv Muslims. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:21pm
You can wipe the jizz of your face now, Greggy.
It would be more accurate to say that ISIS has a lot to do with Islam, but is an extreme expression of one particular kind of Islamism. http://www.zwemercenter.com/isis-un-islamic-or-true-islam/ |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:34pm Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
It's alright Gordy, you keep on believing them. If you can't trust your friends, who can you trust? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:42pm Secret Wars wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:20pm:
Indeed. Gordy gets quite upset at any suggestion that his ISIS friends don't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Secret Wars on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
"Indeed" ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:53pm Secret Wars wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
Indeed. Gordy believes every word that his ISIS friends tell him. Do you? Personally, I think they're a bunch of lying scumbags. Gordy gets upset when you tell him that, though. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Secret Wars on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:00pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
You are giving Brian a run for the title of the forums most cretinous and craven apologist. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:01pm Secret Wars wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
You didn't answer the question. Cunning. Do you believe everything that ISIS says? Do you trust them unconditionally, like Gordy does? I'm still curious. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Secret Wars on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:05pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:01pm:
I ain't interested in your attempts at distracting from your own stupidid apologism by demanding responses to idiotic questions. ISIS got nuffin to do wiv Muslims. ;D ;D ;D ;D Gregg you are a bored and boring cretin. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
That article is from Columbia University, Greg. The Zwemer Center at Columbia International University exists to offer comprehensive courses on Islam, facilitate research, foster dialogues, offer seminars, conduct training and provide resources for effective witness and ministry among Muslims. Founded in 1979 at the U.S. Center for World Mission, the Zwemer Institute became a major resource and training center for Christians seeking to engage Muslims with the gospel. This need was highlighted with the emergence of the Lausanne Movement and grew out of a consultation led by Dr. Don McCurry, the first Zwemer Director. http://www.zwemercenter.com/introduction-to-zwemmer/ |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:08pm Secret Wars wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:05pm:
Don't wanna say, hey? Cunning. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:35pm Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
No, dear, he meant their actions go against the teachings of the Quran, as every schoolboy knows. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:37pm
The apologists have now denigrated the debate to the stage of saying Muslims are not actually Muslims.
Ignore them. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:42pm Gordon wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Come now, Gordy: you're the number 1 apologist here. You insist that ISIS are honourable people, who always tell the truth. I still say they're lying scumbags, though. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 4:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Well, what about this Lebanese Jew? He must know something, shurely. Not as polished as a Canadian Yid, but Gordon's intact. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 7th, 2018 at 4:22pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:20am:
Unfortunately it's at this point that the Islam-authorised practice of 'taqiyya' kicks in as an option for deceitful Muslims. Ultimately the mission of all Muslims is to promote Islam as the dominant religion wherever they settle. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 7th, 2018 at 4:54pm Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 4:22pm:
What say you, G? But of course. You're not tinted. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 5:22pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
Go drink donkey piss you worthless arab :) Gad Saad (/ɡæd sæd/; born October 13, 1964) is a Lebanese-Canadian evolutionary behavioural scientist at the John Molson School of Business (Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada)[ |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Gordon on Mar 7th, 2018 at 5:24pm
Listen to this, Karnal. I know you wont but here's the info for you anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hST_20hqHAM |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by freediver on Mar 7th, 2018 at 8:07pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 1:29pm:
Are you saying you have only ever met one Muslim in your life? Or that you have been 100% successful in projecting your views on Islam onto the rest? greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:16pm:
Muhammad cut the head off a lot of innocent people. Though they did not have particularly tall buildings back then. Do you think he was lying about being a Muslim? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Frank on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:17pm Karnal wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:20am:
Ah, the self-referential Bwian argument: - no-one told me so it doesn't exist. Never mind the thousands who went to fight for ISIS from all over the world, and the millions who supported them from afar. None of them personally revealed themselves to you so it's all non-existent. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Frank on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
So everyone who has ever identified an ideology or religion as his motivation for evil deeds was a lying scumbag, then. Leave it off, Turd, you are too thick for anything requiring more than a moment's impulse, let alone thought. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:32am freediver wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
No, FD, I'm saying I've only ever heard Muslims say ISIS are unIslamic. Apart from Man Monis, of course. You like to listen to what Muslims themselves say, no? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:40am Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 11:17pm:
That's right, dear boy. I've not heard a squeak out of them. There is an exception though. Remember Zacky Mallah? He went to Syria. The Australian made him the poster child of reformed extremists - an example for Australian Muslim youth, who he told his story to in schools. Then he went onto Q&A and asked a minister a tricky question. Well. Wasn't that a right kerfuffle? You blamed Islam, remember? Miranda Divine has the right to not be offended. Along with your good self, naturalicht. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 8th, 2018 at 11:34am Karnal wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:32am:
Islam is divided into the 'House of Peace' and the 'House of War'. That's why Muslim scholars are saying the ISIS mob are not heretics. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 11:49am Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 11:34am:
Which Muslim scholars, Herbie? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by gandalf on Mar 8th, 2018 at 1:06pm Karnal wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:32am:
Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style. You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 2:45pm polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Thanks, G. This makes perfect sense. We have to listen to what FD says what Muslims themselves say. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Frank on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:07pm Karnal wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:40am:
Going from 'I never heard one' to Miranda Devine via some jihadi prick in three steps illustrates just what slippery, autistic worms you and Bwian are. McTurd is also trying but it's beyond him. Gandalf is less blatant but of the same school of haggling and gauche sleight-of- hand rhetoric. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Brian Ross on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:22pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:07pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. You know, you obviously aren't really a trick-cyclist, are you? No one with your attitudes would find any work in that field. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:42pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:07pm:
But, my dear, dear fellow, you yourself recruited for ISIS, remember? You said the more the merrier - send them all over. Saves us the trouble of carpetbombing them. We'll keep Australia for the immigrants. Tanned immigrants, of course. Tinted - tanned; stupid - mendacious; correlation - causation. Potato. Potahto. Let's call the whole thing off, no? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by freediver on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:48pm Karnal wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 10:32am:
Is that a grand total of one Muslim, out of the ones you have met in person? Are you disagreeing with me on the facts, or how to spin them? polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
What's the deeper meaning of this one Gandalf? "I'm a slippery Muslim"? freediver wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
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Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:52pm freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Am I disagreeing with you? Which facts? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by freediver on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:53pm
Usually when the first thing someone says is no, they are disagreeing. Though it sometimes means "yes, but I prefer to spin it this way..." It's all about the deeper meaning, you see.
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Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:56pm freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:53pm:
But, FD, you asked me what I thought. Are you saying I'm disagreeing with myself? Which facts were you referencing? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by freediver on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:57pm
If you are confused, read it again.
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Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:04pm freediver wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Sorry? Which facts? |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Karnal on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:05pm
FD?
Oh. You've gone. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Frank on Mar 8th, 2018 at 9:04pm Karnal wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Purposeful cultivation of frikken Paki arse-fancying idiot identity is the DSM-5 diagnosis. A compulsive affective (in your case an affectation you cannot shake) disorder. |
Title: Re: A Lebanese Jew speaks brilliantly about Islam. Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 8th, 2018 at 9:42pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 6:07pm:
Very well said. |
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