Seriously, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I thought that Michaelia Cash's comments were a little OTT and uncalled for, but seriously why should anyone take a morals lecture from Shorten or Tony Burke? Both men are adulterers who left their wives for other women, just as Joyce did. I have no respect whatsoever for cheaters and hence no respect for any of these three men.

Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage

Its time wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage

So you don't discriminate between separation/divorce and adultery?

lee wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:51pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:45pm: Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage So you don't discriminate between separation/divorce and adultery?

Leftwinger just got caught out because he constantly makes excuses for the Labor Party on impulse.

What has morality got to do with answering straight forward questions....Complete bullshit to avoid answering the question by hiding behind faux moral outrage???

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philperth2010 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:56pm:

What has morality got to do with answering straight forward questions....Complete bullshit to avoid answering the question by hiding behind faux moral outrage??? ::) ::) ::)

I'm not outraged. I'm bemused at the twisting and turning about the difference between separation/divorce and adultery.  ;)

lee wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:51pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:45pm: Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage So you don't discriminate between separation/divorce and adultery?

Don't give a poo about anybody's marriage that isn't in my circle  :)

Its time wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 10:03pm:

lee wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:51pm: Its time wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:45pm: Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage So you don't discriminate between separation/divorce and adultery? Don't give a poo about anybody's marriage that isn't in my circle  :)

What about Barny?

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 10:04pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:03pm: lee wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:51pm: Its time wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 9:45pm: Do you just stay with somebody because you got together , what happens when grow older and find out you're completely different people and really have nothing in common ? Should you stay together because some non existent entity in the sky said so ? And ps Barnaby didn't fall on his sword because he played hide the sausage So you don't discriminate between separation/divorce and adultery? Don't give a poo about anybody's marriage that isn't in my circle  :) What about Barny?

Barny didn't stand down for that at all  :)

matty wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:33pm:

Seriously, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I thought that Michaelia Cash's comments were a little OTT and uncalled for, but seriously why should anyone take a morals lecture from Shorten or Tony Burke? Both men are adulterers who left their wives for other women, just as Joyce did. I have no respect whatsoever for cheaters and hence no respect for any of these three men.

Sure she was OTT but that is her problem she needs to deal with it, bit reactive, why would anyone take moral guidance from anyone ? Suggests to me that you are dysfunctional if you do . As for any MP the types of people that generally get into politics usually have motives so I have no idea why they like hand wringing they are mostly full of crap.

 

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so. 
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made. 
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

Don't take moralising from anyone.


E.g. the last person on here I take moral lectures from is matty. So holier than thou, its a question as to what he has hidden in the closet.

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

More like slandering innocent woman with nothing to back it up....Cash needs to put up proof of her accusations or quit in disgrace....Look at the outrage of exposing someone's adulterous behaviour when Barney was accused of something he actually did (despite the PM and Deputy PM refusing to go public about the affair) claiming it was a private matter....We now know the Coalition do not even believe their own bullshit!!!

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What moral lectures from Shorten and Burke are you referring to matty?

matty wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:33pm:

Seriously, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I thought that Michaelia Cash's comments were a little OTT and uncalled for, but seriously why should anyone take a morals lecture from Shorten or Tony Burke? Both men are adulterers who left their wives for other women, just as Joyce did. I have no respect whatsoever for cheaters and hence no respect for any of these three men.

As Michele Grattan wrote today, it is not Shorten giving any lectures on morals.....it is the PM with his new addition to the Ministerial Code of Conduct.

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong.  Regardless.

No sh.t Aussie..Shorten not giving lectures..No bloody wonder with his amoral track record!!!

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 5:34pm:

No sh.t Aussie..Shorten not giving lectures..No bloody wonder with his amoral track record!!!

No matter his record.  Fact is, and contrary to what Matty claimed in the OP....it is not Shorten giving lectures on morals.

PS...go read your PMs for more details.

Damned straight he ain't! ;D ;D ;D

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm:

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong.  Regardless.

Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it.
As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do.

Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs  to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 8:57am: Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error. A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege???

>:( >:( >:(

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:44am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 4:33pm: Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong.  Regardless. Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it. As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do. Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs  to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:51am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:40am: stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 8:57am: Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error. A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway. Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege??? >:( >:( >:(

I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:53am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:44am: stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 4:33pm: Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong.  Regardless. Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it. As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do. Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs  to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations. Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!! ::) ::) ::)

Its very relevant as in this case it appears BS has done nothing compared to his normal bad form but if you think there is more to it please enlighten us :-)

Since we got politicians who were lawyers making claims of bullying - they should report and have it prosecuted.  There's anti-bullying laws after all.
If they won't. they know they can't because it wasn't bullying and no leg to stand on.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:51am: RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:40am: stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 8:57am: Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error. A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway. Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege??? >:( >:( >:( I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension.

Maybe I lack your sense of imagination were you can believe anything despite having nothing to back up your bullshit....Using your analogy you can make any claims you want without supporting evidence and just claim it is a cover up???

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RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:56am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am: RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:44am: stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 4:33pm: Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong.  Regardless. Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it. As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do. Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs  to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations. Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!! ::) ::) ::) Its very relevant as in this case it appears BS has done nothing compared to his normal bad form but if you think there is more to it please enlighten us :-)

Not up to me to prove your bullshit mate....Put up or shut up!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 10:43am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:54am: philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:51am: RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 8:40am: stunspore wrote on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 8:57am: Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong.  The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.  Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart  model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.  To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error. A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway. Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege??? >:( >:( >:( I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension. Maybe I lack your sense of imagination were you can believe anything despite having nothing to back up your bullshit....Using your analogy you can make any claims you want without supporting evidence and just claim it is a cover up??? ::) ::) ::)

You just got knocked the duck out rsf  ;D