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Message started by Unforgiven on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:54pm

Title: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Unforgiven on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:54pm
This will put a spanner into the works of The Mechanic, and the Mechanic's misbegotten son, Bobby.

This is the second time in two years that Arctic temperature has been above freezing in the dead of Winter.

"Scientists were shocked in recent days to discover open water north of Greenland, an area normally covered by old, very thick ice. “This has me more worried than the warm temps in the Arctic right now,” tweeted Mike MacFerrin, an ice sheet specialist at the University of Colorado."

How much can a polar bear?

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/02/26/the-north-pole-just-surged-above-freezing-in-the-dead-of-winter-stunning-scientists.html


Quote:
The North Pole just surged above freezing in the dead of winter, stunning scientists
An extraordinary heat wave pushed temperatures at the northernmost tip of Greenland was as high as 6.1 C this weekend. And the sun won’t rise for weeks.

By JASON SAMENOWThe Washington Post
Mon., Feb. 26, 2018

The sun won’t rise at the North Pole until March 20, and it’s close to the coldest time of year, but an extraordinary and possibly historic thaw swelled over the tip of the planet this weekend. Analyses show that the temperature warmed to the melting point as an enormous storm pumped an intense pulse of heat through the Greenland Sea.

Temperatures may have soared as high as 2 C at the pole, according to the U.S. Global Forecast System model. While there are no direct measurements of temperature there, Zack Labe, a climate scientist working on his PhD at the University of California at Irvine, confirmed that several independent analyses showed “it was very close to freezing,” which is more than 30 C above normal.

The warm intrusion penetrated right through the heart of the Central Arctic, Labe said. The temperature averaged for the entire region north of 80 degrees latitude spiked to its highest level ever recorded in February. The average temperature was more than 20 C above normal. “No other warm intrusions were very close to this,” Labe said in an interview, describing a data set maintained by the Danish Meteorological Institute that dates back to 1958. “I was taken by surprise how expansive this warm intrusion was.”

The extreme event continues to unfold in the high #Arctic today in response to a surge of moisture and "warmth"

2018 is well exceeding previous years (thin lines) for the month of February. 2018 is the red line. Average temperature is in white (http://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/arctic-temperatures/ …)

Such extreme warm intrusions in the Arctic, once rare, are becoming more routine, research has shown. A study published last July found that since 1980, these events are becoming more frequent, longer-lasting and more intense.

“Previously this was not common,” said lead author of the study Robert Graham, from the Norwegian Polar Institute, in an email. “It happened in four years between 1980-2010, but has now occurred in four out of the last five winters.”

Graham explained that these warming events are related to the decline of winter sea ice in the Arctic, noting that January’s ice extent was the lowest on record. “As the sea ice is melting and thinning, it is becoming more vulnerable to these winter storms,” he explained. “The thinner ice drifts more quickly and can break up into smaller pieces. The strong winds from the south can push the ice further north into the Central Arctic, exposing the open water and releasing heat to the atmosphere from the ocean.”

Scientists were shocked in recent days to discover open water north of Greenland, an area normally covered by old, very thick ice. “This has me more worried than the warm temps in the Arctic right now,” tweeted Mike MacFerrin, an ice sheet specialist at the University of Colorado.

Such warm water is appearing to have an effect on air temperatures. At the north tip of Greenland, about 650 kilometres to the south of the North Pole, the weather station Cape Morris Jesup has logged a record-crushing 61 hours above freezing so far this calendar year. The previous record, dating to 1980, was 16 hours through the end of April in 2011, according to Robert Rohde, a physicist at Berkeley Earth, a non-profit that conducts temperature analysis. At one point, the temperature was as high as 6.1 C.

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Bobby on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:37pm
Record cold:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulc3fYAnHaI


Bloody Cold in UK; Global Food Shortages; Canadian Town Cut Off

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by lee on Feb 28th, 2018 at 4:13pm

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
This is the second time in two years that Arctic temperature has been above freezing in the dead of Winter.



Oooh weather. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
How much can a polar bear?



Well, seeing as they have survived the Holocene Climate Optimum among others, I don't think they are close to dying out yet. Unless they are, of course,a snowflake generation. ;)

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Unforgiven on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:06pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2018/02/20/arctic-sea-ice-record-low-january-levels/355738002/


Quote:
The part of the Arctic covered by sea ice in January was the smallest for the month since records began in 1979, federal scientists announced Tuesday.

January ice cover in the Arctic was a whopping 525,000 square miles less than average, which is an area the size of Texas and California put together.

Sea ice is frozen ocean water that melts during the summer and refreezes in winter. It floats on top of the ocean.

The report was released Tuesday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration...



( Edited to remove foul language.  Bobby)

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Gordon on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:15pm
Weather

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by lee on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:06pm:
Arctic was a whopping 525,000 square miles less than average,


"averaged for January 2018 was 13.06 million square km"

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global-snow/201801

Wow. it has nearly all gone. ;D ;D ;D ;D

And all since 1979, a record year. How sad.

http://ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_07.pdf

page 224 fig 7.20a

Or page 30 of 44 of your reader

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:52am

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Weather


You mean the same "weather" that inspired you to start your sarcastic thread

"Europe in the grip of global warming"

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:19am

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:52am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Weather


You mean the same "weather" that inspired you to start your sarcastic thread

"Europe in the grip of global warming"

;D ;D ;D


no response Gordon?

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Bobby on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:24am
And your explanation was debunked here:
Re: New Ice Age..
Reply #4673 - Yesterday at 2:18pm

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4665#4673


Yes - the map at 11:29 is clearing showing that the North pole
and much of the rest of the Northern hemisphere is well below zero.
All the talk about a hot area at the North pole is nonsense.



It's a mini ice age exactly as predicted in the last 312 pages.

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter


Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by lee on Mar 4th, 2018 at 12:21pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter



So how did they determine the baseline temperature in 1979?

Mostly uninhabited.

Oh, I see early satellite data. With its wide error bands.

"The satellite time series is not homogeneous. It is constructed from a series of satellites with similar but not identical sensors. The sensors also deteriorate over time, and corrections are necessary for orbital drift and decay.[3][4] Particularly large differences between reconstructed temperature series occur at the few times when there is little temporal overlap between successive satellites, making intercalibration difficult."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_temperature_measurements

Only wiki I know. ;)

So we have something over 1 "climate period". Now all we need is another "climate period" to compare it to. ;)

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by Bobby on Mar 4th, 2018 at 3:57pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter




How come your map is completely different to the ones in the video?

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Mar 5th, 2018 at 9:15am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter




How come your map is completely different to the ones in the video?

Bobby the brain seeks total control of the world again   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:42pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter



You might find that Arctica is at least 30 degrees above average for the time of the year. But parts of Europe and North America are 10 to 20 degrees below average for this time of year. I am sure the equilibrium would sort itself out within the week.

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:51pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter



You might find that Arctica is at least 30 degrees above average for the time of the year. But parts of Europe and North America are 10 to 20 degrees below average for this time of year. I am sure the equilibrium would sort itself out within the week.

Lol,  ::)

Title: Re: North Pole surged above freezing in dead of Winter
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 12:35am

TheFunPolice wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:36am:
And your explanation is debunked here.
This is a map of temperature anomaly. It shows that the North Pole is WELL ABOVE AVERAGE for winter



You might find that Arctica is at least 30 degrees above average for the time of the year. But parts of Europe and North America are 10 to 20 degrees below average for this time of year. I am sure the equilibrium would sort itself out within the week.

Lol,  ::)


Why?

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