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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> Drought again http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1518672242 Message started by bogarde73 on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:24pm |
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Title: Drought again Post by bogarde73 on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:24pm
I looked up some photos of my place back in 2003-4 and it's just the same again. Not a blade of grass on my small acreage.
Fortunately I've got town water so can keep fruit trees and garden alive but I shudder to think what the water bill will be. Never mind, I'll just have to give up the Chateau Rothschild for a while. The thing is this drought seems to have come up so.quickly and the.continuous heat wave hasn't helped. Plus there has been absolutely no relief from summer storm downpours. Still, could rain next week. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Bobby on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:45pm
Hi Bogarde - it's been very dry in Melbourne lately.
I wonder if we're heading for a drought here? |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by bogarde73 on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:50pm
Don't know. Do you get droughts down there?
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 15th, 2018 at 4:06pm |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by miketrees on Feb 15th, 2018 at 4:21pm http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030 68 was a good year, 69 nasty, I remember that |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm
"Australia suffers worst drought in 1,000 years "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/08/australia.drought Compare 2006 to 1940. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Bobby on Feb 15th, 2018 at 7:41pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o58TpvXpWw
Early Pacific Typhoon, Australian Wheat Decline & Climate Models Adjusted (532) Adapt 2030 Published on Feb 15, 2018 Some areas of Australia have seen up to 70% reductions compared to last years output. Reasons are drought and cold related issues. Only Western Australia have made gains. Also because of this Australian wheat is expensive compared to international markets so exporters are having a difficult time finding buyers. Early season typhoon rolls across the southern Philippines and onto Vietnam. New study from University of Exeter shows IPCC warming is off by a factor of 2, meaning all of the IPCC projections are 2X to high, but you wont see that in the news. Extreme weather leads to patchwork harvest with yields up to 70 pc down on last year. http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-02-06/extreme-weather-leads-to-patchwork-grain-harvest/9400288 "We had a June and September where we recorded zero rain, which is unprecedented. Then we had 65 days of frost during winter, and during September we threw a 40-degree day in there just for fun." |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Gordon on Feb 15th, 2018 at 7:43pm bogarde73 wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:24pm:
You're Sth Highlands? I read an article about it the other day. Supposed to be as dryasanuns |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Bobby on Feb 15th, 2018 at 8:15pm
Looks like a drought is on the way.
I hope our water desal plant will work? https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-supply/desalination |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 15th, 2018 at 8:18pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 8:15pm:
I knew they would have to use it one day. Cape town is experiencing a bad drought with water rationing !! Those d.ckheads who keep denying global warming should try and shower for 30 seconds. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:05pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
And Cape Town has a burgeoning population and a severe lack of infrastructure (dams) to cater for this population rise. Do you think there were no droughts before AGW? ::) |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by Bobby on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:28pm lee wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
The population is expanding exponentially in Melbourne. We'll need our desal plant. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:39pm
PPPPPPP
Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 15th, 2018 at 10:01pm
You just wish you could control the weather. I have been hoping that the heat we received this week means that we get compensated with plentiful rain -- all over Qld and anywhere in drought. I am about to go out and give the grass a good spraying over with the hose. Or I could give the washing the car a go to see if there is any truth in the urban legend. The car needs a wash, anyway.
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 17th, 2018 at 4:57pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
According to a Megastructures documentary, Melbourne was in the process of making a desalination plant. Whatever happened to that project? |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:02pm lee wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
I think they need to make dams in Qld about 100km apart (or near populated areas) just to use during rain seasons, so that the farmer can save on tank water. However, you would need it to rain a bit for its success. And the costs would be prohibitive. Then the idea was thought up that we build large pipes to pipe water from coastal areas to these inland areas. However, the idea is that much of the water would evaporate in the pipes before it got to the inland areas.... and the costs would be prohibitive. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by miketrees on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:30pm Wa would be stuffed without desal. Stream flows in our water supply dams have decreased by 90% We have 10% of the flows we originally had. No point in building new dams,,, in fact the Water Authority has sold off land that was destined to be catchment area because they are not building some dams and the land is no longer required. |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 18th, 2018 at 3:11pm
The main problem with WA dams is, apart from less rainfall, that the catchment area is no longer cleared. That reduces streamflow into the dams significantly.
"The catchments were set up as clearing experiments in the Collie River Basin in the early 1970s. A catchment pair was instrumented in the high rainfall zone (1100mm/yr), and three catchments in the intermediate rainfall zone (700 mm/yr). Following clearing the discharge coefficient has risen by a factor of 5 in the wetter catchments, and about 10in the intermediate rainfall catchments. Some of this increase occurs almost immediately following clearing, before there is a significant rise in the watertable." http://ewater.org.au/archive/crcch/archive/pubs/pdfs/technical200404.pdf |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:28am miketrees wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
Are those two recent cyclones, you have been getting in WA, been able to fill those dams? Or are they missing your area? |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by lee on Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:26am
The dams are in the south of the state and not affectedby the cyclones.
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by miketrees on Feb 19th, 2018 at 4:55pm
It pretty rare for the cyclones to get over the dams, usually they slide down well east of the Darling Range.
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by The Mechanic on Feb 27th, 2018 at 5:39am
hows that drought going up north?
im hearing about a lot of rains etc.. floods anywhere near you Bog? read this... https://www.bookdepository.com/Kidman-The-Forgotten-King-Jill-Bowen/9780732286101?redirected=true&utm_medium=Google&utm_campaign=Base2&utm_source=AU&utm_content=Kidman-The-Forgotten-King&selectCurrency=AUD&w=AF45AU9SSR1U3FA80R5FAC4T&pdg=pla-104398008339:kwd-104398008339:cmp-680104063:adg-35441289072:crv-151945028117:pid-9780732286101:dev-c&gclid=CjwKCAiA_c7UBRAjEiwApCZi8bwOsKhqi9hYkT_zmV3zqTTSn0z17P_Uvyy4R67lGWy_4demEN0AxhoCL7EQAvD_BwE it shows you how Kidman used his knowledge of Australian droughts and floods that made him the Cattle King of australia.. absolutely brilliant... |
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Title: Re: Drought again Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 4th, 2018 at 12:05pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 3:45pm:
It has been dry in Melbourne lately. We've had just 3 mm in the past 5 weeks But that's not too uncommon at this time of year |
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