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Member Run Boards >> Finance and Economics >> does trickle down economics work http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1518305920 Message started by Ajax on Feb 11th, 2018 at 9:38am |
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Title: does trickle down economics work Post by Ajax on Feb 11th, 2018 at 9:38am
The neoliberalism system we have today was fostered by Milton Freedom and his Chicago boys from the 1950's to early 1970's, although it didn't come into fruition in its entirety until Reagan, Thatcher and Hawke adopted the policies of free market capitalism.
These events gave rise to the trickle down system or that's what we were told. Who thinks the trickle down system works and why.....?? |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Ajax on Feb 11th, 2018 at 9:40am
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by AiA on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:30pm
Work? What do you mean by "work?" If you mean has it made the rich richer and the poor poorer, then yes, it works very well.
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Coral Sea on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:37pm
I voted "maybe" as "trickle down" means many different things.
Some things I've heard of as being described as trickle down: *Deregulation (itself a vast topic) *Union busting *Cutting personal income taxes *Cutting corporate income taxes *Cutting capital gains and dividend taxes In terms of terms of whether or not it "works", well that depends on what works means. The supply side program was successful in reducing inflation for instance, but it didn't cause employment or growth miracles. And its most basic claim did come true--the hours worked by the most highly compensated people increased significantly. Bear in mind it was a different world then...the top income tax rate here was 70%, so that was a real disincentive to work more. The top Reagan tax bracket cut paid for itself, but all the other bracket cuts cost money. Some have insisted tax cuts always pay for themselves, which just isn't so. Thatcher was successful in increasing economic growth in the UK compared to the abysmal late 70s, but at some terrible costs (the miners most severely, deindustrialization most seriously). That said British labor unions truly were out of control. And I think it's well accepted that "trickle down economics" increases inequality, though the role of "free trade" and mass immigration can't be ignored. |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:45pm Ajax wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 9:38am:
Partly: depends what country you live in! :o Aristocracy innit :o :o |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by stunspore on Feb 11th, 2018 at 8:05pm AiA wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:30pm:
+1 for me. |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Gordon on Feb 11th, 2018 at 8:08pm
There's a forum member here who admitted to paying a German woman on The Reeperbahn to take a tinkle on him.
Seems like Trickle Down worked for them. |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 12th, 2018 at 1:54pm Gordon wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
Proof? :o |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm
trickle up economics sure works.
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 12th, 2018 at 1:57pm AiA wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:30pm:
Exactly: it's just a natural aristocracy and/or caste sytem being allowed to develop! "Democracy", aka THE BLACK UMBRELLA, is a means to an end assuming it promotes unnatural equality arising a solidified mediocrity! Oh, and then there's mass immigration,... like wtf is actually going on here ::) :o :o :o :o :o :P ? |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 12th, 2018 at 2:00pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
What is that? |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by perceptions_now on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:17pm
Q - does trickle down economics work?
A - NO! |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by issuevoter on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 5:27pm
It may not appears so in the short term, but our standard of living would not have risen to what it is today if it was not at least true some of the time. I know how we lived when I was a child, and my parents could not even afford a car. Now, everyone on our street has three and a boat. So don't start whinging about how hard these times are.
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by BigOl64 on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 5:35pm Ajax wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 9:38am:
Are we wealthier, healthier and generally better off since the 70's? |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Unforgiven on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 6:28pm
Trickle down economics doesn't work because at the bottom of the economic system there are too many people competing with each other for the crumbs.
It's mainly because the addiction to control of inflation by keeping unemployment not far below 5%. If unemployment were allowed to fall to zero percent there would be much more competition for labor which would force up the price. |
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Title: Re: does trickle down economics work Post by Dnarever on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 7:06pm issuevoter wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 5:27pm:
In the 50 and 60 the projections were for a 3 or 4 day working week by well before now. The tech improvements happened and the increased productivity happened. The problem with the forecast is that it assumed that everyone would benefit. Instead greed has ruled. Weak governments allowed greedy corporations and a hand full of greedy individuals to monopolise virtually all of the benefits. Trickle down is an insult to the intelligence of imbeciles. The cartoon showing wealthy people laughing about Trickle down is 100% accurate. Giving money to these grubs just makes them more wealthy, it does not benefit anyone else - ever. |
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