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Title: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by whiteknight on Feb 9th, 2018 at 6:15am
Rising cost of living leaving many people struggling to pay for basic essentials
ABC News February 8 2018 Figures from the Bureau of Statistics show the cost of life's basic essentials like fuel and transport are rising at their fastest pace, and well above growth in wages. :( Key points: Cost of living rose 2pc last year — strongest pace of growth in 3.5 years Some people's living cost index rose 1pc in Dec quarter to annualised rate of 2.4pc Salvation Army say more Australians showing up simply looking for next meal The latest data shows the cost of living rose 2 per cent last year — the strongest pace of growth in 3.5 years. "Broadly, rising cost-of-living pressures are pressuring income-earners across the board," Commsec economist Ryan Felsman said. He said Australians receiving welfare payments and pensioners were suffering the most. "What we've seen of course is that some of the poorer cohorts, their living-cost index has risen by 1 per cent in the December quarter to an annualised rate of 2.4 per cent — which is well above the consumer price index in particular," he said. "And at the same time pensioners and beneficiaries, their living cost indices rose the most." Charity organisation the Salvation Army said while demand for clothing and shelter had always been strong, more Australians were now showing up on their doorstep simply looking for their next meal. Salvation Army's Mitchell Evans said at their Sydney's Street Level Mission he was seeing more people coming to them every day for help. :( "We're seeing people coming to services like Salvation Army just to eat during the day," he said. "They've had to pay for bills, they've had to pay for medication, which is all quite costly, and they're having to come to services like us just to eat." :( 'It's impossible to even move out of home' One young couple, May and Ben, said they had been spending increasing amounts of their money on food, rent and transport. How to save on the big expenses The ABS's latest survey shows we're spending more on the basics and are in deeper in debt. Here's how to buck the trend. "Yeah it's just getting more and more expensive," Ben said. He said to cut back he had switched to a cheaper phone plan, as well as going out less. "Wherever you can cut costs," he said. "I never actually left home. I'm trying to move out and it's just too expensive — you can't do it." May said she was 27 and that about half of her friends were still living at home with their parents. Both expressed concern about their long-term financial security. A retired couple from Switzerland, which has the world's highest cost of living, have been making the same trip to Australia for 20 years. They said Australia was heading in the same direction as their own country. "Sydney's getting close to Switzerland — everything has become more expensive. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:12am
Other than self interest crap and ABC rubbish where is the objective data ?
FYI there will always be a certain % below the poverty line and it will move around .... so what ? |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by aquascoot on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:13am
people are "struggling".
people are just trying to "cope". just trying to "cope" with this harsh world. you will never stumble on success whilst you have a "coping" mindset. no one will give you anything. but when you learn to contribute and to look after others and no longer try to be a leach , people will give you everything. its a combination of the matthew principle and the pareto principle. all the opportunities go to the people who are already taking advantage of all their opportunities. this is how evolution works. the "world" for want of a better word, gives opportunities to those who take advantage of them this is deeply biological. if you are just trying to cope, you dont see the opportunities and you shrivel up and die. dont blame the world, blame your own catastrophic personal philosophy |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:32am
aquascoot
What I don't understand with people struggling is why do they hang around Sydney. I spent well over a decade working in Sydney's CBD and you get to see the regular beggars. There was even a story of one girl making up to $450 / day hanging around central begging for money to buy a train ticket. A lot of them seem to have poker machine eyes so they are on something so for me its not a poverty issue at all its about certain life choices which obviously are not options in cheaper cleaner regional areas. As for people on reasonable incomes struggling this is all part and parcel of capitalism the idea is to better yourselves not complain about it. When I first moved to Sydney it was struggle you just get on with it ! |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bobby on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:29am
I'm working yet I struggle to pay my bills.
The rates is a killer. Electricity has never cost so much. Rego on my car was over $800 this year. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:38am Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:29am:
I assume you mean council rates ? Interest rates or mortgages can be a killer if they start going up so it could be a lot worse. CTP is the issue not rego which is only 200-300 ish |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by AugCaesarustus on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:41am
Where's Grap when you need him??
Grap, Grap, Grap, Grap..... |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bobby on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:30am RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:38am:
Of course council rates - what other rates? |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Sir lastnail on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:36am
Why do we need councils for ? There are enough bludgers in state government to do their job !
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by miketrees on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:32am Too many people consider drugs, gambling, alcohol and cigs to be essentials |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bobby on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:46am Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:36am:
They piss my money up against the wall. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bias_2012 on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:11pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:29am:
More Aussies should move to the bush. Council rates are only 100s of dollars, not 1000s, mine is $370/year for house on residential block Greenslips are cheaper in the bush than in the big cities Water is cheap - no cost at all if you have a tank with auto pump |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:52pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Interest rates ? |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:55pm miketrees wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 11:32am:
Absolutely, poker machines make more revenue in lower income areas not sure on the other vices v income but if you are struggling to pay your bills cutting cigs and booze is a no brainer. As for drugs ..... not even worth discussing as they are illegal. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:50pm RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:12am:
So, Why bother saying what we already know? You truly are a f head are not you brother? :D |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by RightSaidFred on Feb 9th, 2018 at 4:32pm TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
As opposed to you I prefer facts and figures not BS but please do carry on Trollboy. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Dr Mengele on Feb 9th, 2018 at 6:07pm
Stop digging ditches and get a better job then. 8-)
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Valkie on Feb 9th, 2018 at 6:26pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:29am:
Yeah Remember when the grubberment privatised the exercise to save us money and effort? Now we have to go to three places instead of one. ONE for an exorbabent third party insurance One for the prego check One for the worthless prego, which is nothing but cash for nothing. Coco, the biggest organized crime organization in the world Oh and I almost forgot stamp duty I bought my wife a new car two weeks ago. Stamp duty well over $1500. For what I asked the lady behind the counter To register your car in your name. But what do I get for my money Your car registered in your name In other words.....Nuffink Just the grubberment doing what it does best........thievery |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by The Mechanic on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:00pm
and yet these low socioeconomic slobs always have money for cigarettes and tattoos.. :-/
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bobby on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:06pm Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Yep - I might move out of the big city - I'm getting fed up with the big prices for everything. |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 10th, 2018 at 12:03pm Auggie wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 8:41am:
Unlike the VC - I'm not everywhere.... As long as we are forced to endure this farce of 'privatised' utilities and insurance companies desperately 'needing' to procure billions for their major shareholders and their boards and other parasites - such things as cost of living are always going to outdistance incomes by many a country mile and accelerating.. As long as the corporations that offshore profits and pay no taxes here are allowed to continue to do so,and to operate in some mythical fairyland of a 'global economy', which is just another way of saying they will sit offshore and set prices here while not paying their way, the same will continue to apply. This is all part of The Big Plan to reduce the populace under the despotism of permanent fear of poverty, which offers unto the self-appointed 'ruling classes' every opportunity to exploit those who must tremble in fear at their shadow passing over them. What this country needs is a good management massacre wrought by a DEE - Disgruntled Ex Employee... we need some good old Murikan solutions here sometimes... one such event would change the face of industrial relations here unto eternity.... and bring the boss class to heel where they properly belong since they are so much lower than arseholes....... Then the Revolutionary Committee and the Underground Movement could move on to a few judges etc, and politicians who step out of line.... pour encourager les autres.... All those found guilty of treason will be punished on The Hook.... Kurt Vonnegut Jnr - Cat's Cradle |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 10th, 2018 at 12:09pm RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 2:55pm:
A new form of bread and circuses.... put a car race on in a city..... put in a few more pokies.... make the peasants desperate so they'll chance their little money on a big win... drown their sorrows in cheap liquor (we haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine) and cheap sex .... smoke their lungs out in a desperate attempt to part this mortal sphere more quickly.... drug their minds until they can no longer string two thought bubbles together.... tattoo yourself to the max so people will mistake your puny little skagger ass with the bad skin for a famous footballer or a Veteran of Afghanistan or similar.... watch Rambo and Bruce Lee repeats and figure out how great you are in the fight against injustice etc.... |
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Title: Re: People Struggling To Pay For Basic Essentials Post by Bias_2012 on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:51pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 10:06pm:
Of course the biggest payoff is if you sell your city house for x amount, a country house will be x minus a half that amount approximately Houses in the country can range from 180k to 2million, choose carefully after researching everything else, about rates, distance to nearest town, water supply, condition of roads, flooding, mail delivery etc etc To lower cost of living, the best situation is out of town but not too far. That will get rate cost and other govt costs down as much as possible It goes like this; The more govt "luxuries", the more you pay - The less govt "luxuries", the less you pay Where I live there is no "luxuries" at all, the roads are bad and dirt roads at that, there is no street lighting in the village to speak about, the Council doesn't cut the grass, there is no sewage, no stormwater drainage, no footpaths .... so my rates are very low You need to work out what luxuries you want, then ask the local council what the rates are in that location. If you choose to live right in a country town, expect the rates to be higher than in the bush Remember though, that rego and the towing levy, if you have that in Vic, will be the same as the city. But greenslips are cheaper by about $50-$100 Food is dearer, but work on your diet, don't pig on stuff Drive a fuel efficient vehicle, I drive a diesel, the cost is minimal, hardly notice it, just pocket change |
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