some Global Warming..

HOTTEST YEAR EVA..  :D


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Hobart weather: Summer snow shocks Tassie JUST two days after the state sweltered through blistering heat, snow has been falling on Tasmania’s higher peaks. The Great Lake Hotel has posted photos of snow falling at the Central Highlands pub this morning and the Bureau of Meteorology has reported snow above 900m. Parts of the state suffered through temperatures as high as 40C just two days ago but the weather has turned suddenly. The BOM has issued a bushwalkers alert saying snow as low as 900m is possible during this morning. Snow at Great Lake Hotel on Tasmania's Central Plateau. These hazardous conditions are expected to occur in parts of the Central Plateau forecast district, the warning says. Hobart can expect 17C today with showers clearing but at it was just 8.4C at 5.30am with an apparent temperature of 5.3C. On Mt Wellington/kunanyi it was -0.9C at 7am with an apparent temperature of -12C. There was a dusting of snow on the mountain visible from the city. .

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Last year I got snow a week before Xmas in Tassie.

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 9:55am:

Last year I got snow a week before Xmas in Tassie.

they had snow in early December (summer) as well.. 2nd rings a bell but don't quote me on it

You're confusing weather with climate there fella.

One day it's a pizza oven - the next day it's snowing.

What weird weather.

Just 2 days after Hobart had it's hottest January night on record

https://www.7hofm.com.au/friends/40-local-news/75330-record-breaking-heat-in-tasmania

Mechanic, you might want to learn the difference between local weather and global climate

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 10:47am:

Just 2 days after Hobart had it's hottest January night on record https://www.7hofm.com.au/friends/40-local-news/75330-record-breaking-heat-in-tasmania Mechanic, you might want to learn the difference between local weather and global climate

Local weather over 30 years (or longer) is local climate. Global weather over 30 years (or longer) is global climate.

When it is hot the alarmists say "look at climate change is doing", when it is cold it is merely weather.

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 9:55am:

Last year I got snow a week before Xmas in Tassie.

It's not unusual for Tassie to get snow in summer, the Victorian high country also gets a dusting of snow at least once most summers.

It's really not that strange

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 10:54am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:47am: Just 2 days after Hobart had it's hottest January night on record https://www.7hofm.com.au/friends/40-local-news/75330-record-breaking-heat-in-tasmania Mechanic, you might want to learn the difference between local weather and global climate Local weather over 30 years (or longer) is local climate. Global weather over 30 years (or longer) is global climate. When it is hot the alarmists say "look at climate change is doing", when it is cold it is merely weather.

Whereas the denialists say itf its hot its merely weather, when its cold, global warming cant be real.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 11:20am:

lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:54am: The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:47am: Just 2 days after Hobart had it's hottest January night on record https://www.7hofm.com.au/friends/40-local-news/75330-record-breaking-heat-in-tasmania Mechanic, you might want to learn the difference between local weather and global climate Local weather over 30 years (or longer) is local climate. Global weather over 30 years (or longer) is global climate. When it is hot the alarmists say "look at climate change is doing", when it is cold it is merely weather. Whereas the denialists say itf its hot its merely weather, when its cold, global warming cant be real.

if its hot in summer thats all it is.. summer weather you numbskull ... ffs  ::)

and no..

its not normal that we get snow in summer.. durr. ..  :D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:20am: lee wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:54am: The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 10:47am: Just 2 days after Hobart had it's hottest January night on record https://www.7hofm.com.au/friends/40-local-news/75330-record-breaking-heat-in-tasmania Mechanic, you might want to learn the difference between local weather and global climate Local weather over 30 years (or longer) is local climate. Global weather over 30 years (or longer) is global climate. When it is hot the alarmists say "look at climate change is doing", when it is cold it is merely weather. Whereas the denialists say itf its hot its merely weather, when its cold, global warming cant be real. if its hot in summer thats all it is.. summer weather you numbskull ... ffs  ::) and no.. its not normal that we get snow in summer.. durr. ..  :D

Actually it is normal to get snow in summer.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-12/summer-snow-delighting-tasmanians/7023258

"We do typically see one or two of these events each summer ... so it's unusual, but certainly not incredibly unusual," Mr Bolden said.

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"We do typically see one or two of these events each summer ... so it's unusual, but certainly not incredibly unusual," Mr Bolden said.

Wow, so it typically happens one or twice every summer in Tasmania.
Yet Mechanic thinks it's important enough to start a new thread

Weather    :-/   Climate

Asylum seeker    :-/   Refugee

Illegal Immigrant    :-/   Asylum Seeker

Illegal    :-/   Unlawful

The Mechanic often struggles to differentiate between certain terms.

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6. Where can I find snow in Tasmania? The central highlands and the more mountainous areas often get snowfalls in the winter months. However, snow rarely settles at sea level. Mount Wellington in Hobart has sporadic snow in the colder months (although it's even been known to have snow in December), and you can drive up the mountain to meet it.

so if our climate is getting warmer like the "loons" say then why are we still getting snow in the summer months?

a rare event getting summer snow in Tasmania but its been getting more regular over the past few years.. even down to sea level...

people like al gore and Flannery said that our children wont even get to see snow and wont know what it is...

2 minutes to midnight..  :D :D :D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:14pm:

Quote: 6. Where can I find snow in Tasmania? The central highlands and the more mountainous areas often get snowfalls in the winter months. However, snow rarely settles at sea level. Mount Wellington in Hobart has sporadic snow in the colder months (although it's even been known to have snow in December), and you can drive up the mountain to meet it. so if our climate is getting warmer like the "loons" say then why are we still getting snow in the summer months? a rare event getting summer snow in Tasmania but its been getting more regular over the past few years.. even down to sea level... people like al gore and Flannery said that our children wont even get to see snow and wont know what it is... 2 minutes to midnight..  :D :D :D

Again you are confusing global climate with local weather events.

There is no evidence to suggest that summer snow is getting more frequent and there is no evidence that it has occurred down to sea level. The latest event involved snow above 900m altitude.

You are talking garbage as usual Mechanic

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:14pm:

Quote: 6. Where can I find snow in Tasmania? The central highlands and the more mountainous areas often get snowfalls in the winter months. However, snow rarely settles at sea level. Mount Wellington in Hobart has sporadic snow in the colder months (although it's even been known to have snow in December), and you can drive up the mountain to meet it. so if our climate is getting warmer like the "loons" say then why are we still getting snow in the summer months? a rare event getting summer snow in Tasmania but its been getting more regular over the past few years.. even down to sea level... people like al gore and Flannery said that our children wont even get to see snow and wont know what it is... 2 minutes to midnight..  :D :D :D

AS Barnacle said you are confusing local weather with global climate.

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:23pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 2:14pm: Quote: 6. Where can I find snow in Tasmania? The central highlands and the more mountainous areas often get snowfalls in the winter months. However, snow rarely settles at sea level. Mount Wellington in Hobart has sporadic snow in the colder months (although it's even been known to have snow in December), and you can drive up the mountain to meet it. so if our climate is getting warmer like the "loons" say then why are we still getting snow in the summer months? a rare event getting summer snow in Tasmania but its been getting more regular over the past few years.. even down to sea level... people like al gore and Flannery said that our children wont even get to see snow and wont know what it is... 2 minutes to midnight..  :D :D :D Again you are confusing global climate with local weather events. There is no evidence to suggest that summer snow is getting more frequent and there is no evidence that it has occurred down to sea level. The latest event involved snow above 900m altitude. You are talking garbage as usual Mechanic

recently it has...

it is YOU who is spreading your ill-informed ignorant garbage.

and stop talking to me about weather and climate you numbskull...

im addressing the claims of your masters (and you and other loons ) .. all of which have been 100% incorrect of which I have laid down the evidence ...

why??

because it was a 100% total fabrication..

Diversionary tqactic, you asked why in climate cahnge, we can get snow, we answered you're obfuscating

1stborn climbing Cradle Mt. last year in Dec.

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Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:39pm:

1stborn climbing Cradle Mt. last year in Dec.

I recall one time when staying in Hobart for a couple of days that I wanted to take the Mrs up to the top of Mt Wellington...

but the first day was to wet and low clouds...

the next day was better but still low cloud... I decided to go for a drive up there anyways... all the way up from around half way up we were fogged in by the clouds..

and then as we drove around the last corner we popped up out above the clouds like you would an an aeroplane...

it was amazing..  :)

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:23pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 2:14pm: Quote: 6. Where can I find snow in Tasmania? The central highlands and the more mountainous areas often get snowfalls in the winter months. However, snow rarely settles at sea level. Mount Wellington in Hobart has sporadic snow in the colder months (although it's even been known to have snow in December), and you can drive up the mountain to meet it. so if our climate is getting warmer like the "loons" say then why are we still getting snow in the summer months? a rare event getting summer snow in Tasmania but its been getting more regular over the past few years.. even down to sea level... people like al gore and Flannery said that our children wont even get to see snow and wont know what it is... 2 minutes to midnight..  :D :D :D Again you are confusing global climate with local weather events. There is no evidence to suggest that summer snow is getting more frequent and there is no evidence that it has occurred down to sea level. The latest event involved snow above 900m altitude. You are talking garbage as usual Mechanic

Dear Barnacle,
I think with global warming people were not expecting snow in summer - that's all.

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 2:39pm:

1stborn climbing Cradle Mt. last year in Dec.

Snow drifts often last well into the summer in the high country. It is a common occurrence. And once again, local weather is different to global climate


Bobby. wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:43pm:

Dear Barnacle, I think with global warming people were not expecting snow in summer - that's all.

Well that shows a complete ignorance of what global warming is
And once again, local weather is different from global climate

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 8:03pm:

And once again, local weather is different from global climate

And local climate is different to global climate. ;)

and remember this?

"According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/children-just-arent-going-to-know-what-snow-is/news-story/5a16c85680b7cc94f345240a727fb09d

And that was in Winter. And Global. ;)

Ahhh, instead of reading the Tele, what about some peer reviewed evidence lee?

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 8:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 2:39pm: 1stborn climbing Cradle Mt. last year in Dec. Snow drifts often last well into the summer in the high country. It is a common occurrence. And once again, local weather is different to global climate Bobby. wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 3:43pm: Dear Barnacle, I think with global warming people were not expecting snow in summer - that's all. Well that shows a complete ignorance of what global warming is And once again, local weather is different from global climate

Could the average temperature going up about one degree in the last 100 years be normal climate variation?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 9:10am:

Ahhh, instead of reading the Tele, what about some peer reviewed evidence lee?

You mean you think a climate scientist's views are peer-reviewed? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But from a different source -

"1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000."

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/04/top-5-failed-snow-free-and-ice-free-predictions/

YOu do know what I mean by peer reviewed right?


Telling a newspaper something, is not peer-reviewed

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

YOu do know what I mean by peer reviewed right? Telling a newspaper something, is not peer-reviewed

Yes. Now tell me why a climate scientists views should not be held up to public scrutiny? ;)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 11:56am: YOu do know what I mean by peer reviewed right? Telling a newspaper something, is not peer-reviewed Yes. Now tell me why a climate scientists views should not be held up to public scrutiny? ;)

Who should I said that. What I'm saying is a blog in the telegraph is not public scrutiny.

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 8:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 2:39pm: 1stborn climbing Cradle Mt. last year in Dec. Snow drifts often last well into the summer in the high country. It is a common occurrence. And once again, local weather is different to global climate

That however was a fresh snow dump. It has snowed down to as far as 2km from the visitor centre.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:42pm:

What I'm saying is a blog in the telegraph is not public scrutiny.

” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000."

And what about the Independant? That wasn't a blog. If it was being reported it is public, it is subject to my or anyone's scrutiny. I am a member of that public.

Reporting is not scrutiny.

A journal, some sort of scientiic peer reviewed journal

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:29pm:

A journal, some sort of scientiic peer reviewed journal

You realise peer-reviewed journals don't publish the thoughts of scientists?

Remember the 97% study of John Cook. Published in a peer-reviewed journal. Not worth crap. John Cook isn't even a scientist.

Peer-reviewed? Pal-reviewed/?

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:29pm: A journal, some sort of scientiic peer reviewed journal You realise peer-reviewed journals don't publish the thoughts of scientists? Remember the 97% study of John Cook. Published in a peer-reviewed journal. Not worth crap. John Cook isn't even a scientist. Peer-reviewed? Pal-reviewed/?

I'm not sure you really know what the term means.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:37pm:

lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:35pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:29pm: A journal, some sort of scientiic peer reviewed journal You realise peer-reviewed journals don't publish the thoughts of scientists? Remember the 97% study of John Cook. Published in a peer-reviewed journal. Not worth crap. John Cook isn't even a scientist. Peer-reviewed? Pal-reviewed/? I'm not sure you really know what the term means.

I AM sure you don't know what you are talking about. ;)

lee wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:37pm: lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:35pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:29pm: A journal, some sort of scientiic peer reviewed journal You realise peer-reviewed journals don't publish the thoughts of scientists? Remember the 97% study of John Cook. Published in a peer-reviewed journal. Not worth crap. John Cook isn't even a scientist. Peer-reviewed? Pal-reviewed/? I'm not sure you really know what the term means. I AM sure you don't know what you are talking about. ;)

Having had 3 peer-reviewed articles published, probably a lot more than you do.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 1:44pm:

Having had 3 peer-reviewed articles published, probably a lot more than you do.

Were they to do with Climate Science^TM?