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Message started by Bam on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm

Title: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament

Quote:
Key points:
* Pauline Hanson will make a claim relating to bankruptcy proceedings levelled against Fraser Anning before he entered Parliament
* Senator Anning's case was settled out of court before Malcolm Roberts was disqualified from the Senate
* The Senate would have to vote to refer Senator Anning to the High Court to assess his eligibility

Pauline Hanson is launching a bid to have her renegade former colleague Fraser Anning kicked out of Parliament by the High Court, but she could have trouble convincing her Senate colleagues to back the move.

According to reports in The Australian newspaper, the One Nation leader has written to Senate President Scott Ryan signalling her intention to ask the Upper House to refer Senator Anning's eligibility for office for judgment by the court.

It is understood the claim will relate to bankruptcy proceedings levelled against Senator Anning before he was confirmed as the replacement for ousted Queensland senator Malcolm Roberts, who fell foul of the constitution's dual citizenship ban.

Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.

That case, which related to a debt of more than $200,000 from a failed agribusiness investment scheme, was settled out of court before Mr Roberts was disqualified from the Senate and Senator Anning was confirmed as his replacement.

Even though that settlement means he was never declared bankrupt, Senator Hanson seems to be suggesting it could still rule him ineligible under the constitution's ban on bankrupts sitting in parliament.

"I have never been bankrupt or insolvent and therefore not disqualifiable under the constitution," Senator Anning said in a statement.

"Any plans by One Nation to refer me to the High Court are frivolous."

Just moments into his political career, Senator Anning set tongues wagging throughout Parliament House by being escorted into the Upper House ahead of his swearing in by Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm and Australian Conservatives senator Cory Bernardi.

Earlier, his first One Nation party room meeting had abruptly ended after what he described as a "vitriolic" attack by his colleagues.

Senator Anning has since split with Ms Hanson's party, and there is mounting speculation he could join forces with another group.

"I have met with people from a variety of political parties who support the interests of rural and regional Australians," he said.

"I have declared to the President of the Senate my intent to sit as an independent, and I will be making a statement to this effect when Parliament resumes."

Earlier this month colourful MP Bob Katter attempted to downplay rumours Senator Anning could join his Katter's Australian Party, saying they were simply good mates who had known each other for 40 years.

The Senate would have to vote to refer Senator Anning to the High Court, and as yet there is no suggestion of whether the major parties would see merit in pursuing yet another case being referred.

In the event the Queenslander was disqualified, the next One Nation candidate likely to benefit from a recount would be Senator Hanson's sister, Judy Smith.


Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:44pm
Meh....  slow news day....

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:52pm
Soon as saw one nation I knew her number one poor man's lib fanbois would comment

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 4:00pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:44pm:
Meh....  slow news day....


LOL CFMEU....  been sitting there waiting all day for me eh... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Want to see a political party fanboi...  look in a mirror.
I'm a swinging voter
Unlike your braindead tribalism eh.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by tickleandrose on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 4:11pm
re Grendel

I am not sure if you are a swing vote Grendel.  Swinging from one nation to lib/nat is not that much of a swing.  And i cant really see you voting anywhere near Labor or Greens.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 4:41pm
I haven't voted Lib/Nat as you call them since the mid 70s.  I think I have voted for them 2 times in that period and once was in a state election.

So you be wrong eh.

BTW there are more parties and independents than there are major parties...  seems to me you just vote Lab or Green... Tickle.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 4:48pm
Typical Ashby beat up. 

There is no way Hanson will ever attempt to get the Senate to refer Anning.  The plain simple and very clear fact is that Anning was not an undischarged bankrupt.  He was never bankrupted.

Link.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by juliar on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 5:35pm
Stone the crows now Bob Katter is after Fraser Anning!!!  Pauline must be fuming!!! Was she set up ?


Bob Katter evasive about plans to lure Fraser Anning to his party
Amy Remeikis Thu 11 Jan 2018 16.54 AEDT Last modified on Thu 11 Jan 2018 16.56 AEDT

‘I hope that we will continue working closely together,’ Queensland federal MP says of the former One Nation senator.


Bob Katter

The Queensland federal MP Bob Katter is playing coy over speculation he is looking to woo the former One Nation senator Fraser Anning to his party.


Anning burst on to the federal political scene in spectacular fashion, taking the spot of ousted Queensland One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts and moments after being sworn in either quit the party or was kicked out – depending on whether party leader Pauline Hanson or Anning is telling the story.

Since then, Anning has stayed relatively quiet about his intentions, saying he is content to remain on the crossbench as an independent for now.

Enter his “good mate” Katter, who has refused to hose down speculation Anning could become his party’s first federal senator, in a statement purportedly released to quell that very rumour.

After it was made known the pair were meeting for dinner on Thursday night, Katter said it was “not unusual” for them to “catch up”, given they “have been close family friends for more than 40 years and they have a lot in common”.

“I have discussions with people like Fraser Anning all the time,” Katter said in his statement.

“I would be surprised if there was anything much that Fraser and I would disagree on. We both went to the big Christian schools in Charters Towers [north Queensland]. Both of our families were in Charters Towers before there was a Charters Towers, and his family goes back even further than mine.

“We both had cattle stations; we are both businessmen and both very strong Bjelke-Petersen men and I hope that we will continue working closely together.”

Anning did not respond to requests for comment.

It is not the first time Katter’s Australian Party has flirted with taking on board disillusioned former minor party members. Its state MPs, led by Katter’s son Robbie, attempted to woo former Palmer United party MPs to their party banner before the 2015 election, but to no avail.

Queensland’s KAP has also worked on creating a crossbench voting bloc in an attempt to swing more influence in the state parliament, where Katter Sr makes frequent appearances despite his federal jurisdiction.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/11/bob-katter-evasive-about-plans-to-lure-fraser-anning-to-his-party

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:24pm

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.


.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure.  Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support. 

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:54am

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

Not really.
One would expect a person elected as a Party member to stay with that party.  At least for the term.  His behaviour re this situation is truly disloyal and frankly astonishing.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:57am

Aussie wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.


.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure.  Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support. 

CLUELESS
just admit it Aussie...
YOU have no clue.
best you talk about Palmer's Party eh..  how's that going BTW?

What is left of PHON is what we are dealing with...  but it is not structure free etc.

Best you shut up unless you actually know something. ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by aquascoot on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 7:44am


pauline is not the right personality for this type of party.

she is a bit bitter, always looks butt hurt, plays the victim a bit and she doesnt seem to be buzzing off her own awesomeness.

she is patriotic and wants auusies to take pride in their country but she hasnt climbed the "narrow road to success".

she only made it to running a takeaway store in ipswich.
Hardly good enough to be telling other people what to do.

If we contrast her with other nationalist patriots, we see the stark contrast.

Donald and Vlad are both super awesome guys who are at the top of their game.
they kick heads, they dont go on telly and act all cry baby and sooky like Hansen.  they are the alpha of the alpha.
people can vibe with that, with strong pure masculine energy, with confidence, with positivity , with success, with a winner.

A better person to lead a patriotic nationalist party would be someone like twiggy Forrest . someone who has already had a lot of success and has much better emotional control

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Hoss on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:50am
HI ALL


Have another look at why he walked from One Nation!. 

Why should he give that position to a man that was not honest on his eligibility to the Senate.

8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:54am:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

Not really.
One would expect a person elected as a Party member to stay with that party.  At least for the term.  His behaviour re this situation is truly disloyal and frankly astonishing.

It is not unusual for politicians to leave a party for various reasons. I don't see why One Nation should be exempt from this.

Political defections seem to happen a fair bit with One Nation. Rather than posting comments about them being "disloyal" and acting surprised by calling it "astonishing", isn't it more appropriate to consider why this is happening?

The best way to stop anything like this is to address the cause. One Nation's problems appear to be poor governance and James Ashby.

Their governance is appalling. They have taken donations without properly declaring them. And how do we know that Hanson isn't embezzling party funds for her own profit? Candidates must pay their own costs, the party doesn't pay. Why, when the party has received millions of dollars in funds from the taxpayer? Where has that money gone?

James Ashby has put himself at the centre of the party like a spider in the middle of a web, and has forced out long-time One nation people whom he perceived were a threat. He has been caught on tape suggesting plans to defraud the taxpayer. Hanson is a fool for allowing him to take so much power for himself.

One more thing - in recent years, some people have defected to One Nation at state level. Are they also disloyal? Do you find that astonishing?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:54am:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

Not really.
One would expect a person elected as a Party member to stay with that party.  At least for the term.  His behaviour re this situation is truly disloyal and frankly astonishing.

It is not unusual for politicians to leave a party for various reasons. I don't see why One Nation should be exempt from this.

No one said they should, but it is rather pathetic behaviour.

Political defections seem to happen a fair bit with One Nation.

Not really.  Given they have hardly any elected politicians.  Palmer's had a similar problem.

Rather than posting comments about them being "disloyal" and acting surprised by calling it "astonishing", isn't it more appropriate to consider why this is happening?

Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.  The membership find it both disloyal and astonishing.

The best way to stop anything like this is to address the cause. One Nation's problems appear to be poor governance and James Ashby.

Ashby doesn't rule the party.  It's Constitution doesn't allow it.

Their governance is appalling.

Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

They have taken donations without properly declaring them. And how do we know that Hanson isn't embezzling party funds for her own profit?

Oh here we go more heresay.  take them to court then report them to the AEC.  Test the truth of the rumour.

Candidates must pay their own costs, the party doesn't pay. Why, when the party has received millions of dollars in funds from the taxpayer? Where has that money gone?

Where's your proof Bam?  The Party BTW was broke after the court cases for Hanson and Ettridge.?  The membership was decimated.

James Ashby has put himself at the centre of the party like a spider in the middle of a web, and has forced out long-time One nation people whom he perceived were a threat. He has been caught on tape suggesting plans to defraud the taxpayer. Hanson is a fool for allowing him to take so much power for himself.

Oh dear....  there are many wannabes and hangers-on Bam that should well be "forced out" of the party.  They are a millstone.  Many are simply there like Burston...  betrayed Hanson one minutes licking her boots the next self serving only there to get into parliament on her coat-tails. To live the high life on a Senator's pay.

Hanson obviously likes Ashby and trusts him.  Has she ever shown good judgement in this area before?  Ashby is probably earning a good wage as well.  Oldfield was similar...  he's very well off these days thank you and it only cost PHON NSW a million dollars to get him into Parliament.  He didn't pay it out of his pocket.

One more thing - in recent years, some people have defected to One Nation at state level. Are they also disloyal? Do you find that astonishing?

I find it appalling don't you?  That people are so disloyal and so ignorant and pathetic..  YES.  If you can't hack it don't join.  But like I told you PHON is scraping the barrel bottom as far as candidates go these days.  It will take a lot for the good members that left to rejoin the party if they ever do.  many will now try the Australian Conservatives, PHON votes are now well and truly split.


https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp0203/03RP04

Don Chipp left the Liberals and started his own party.  Corey Bernadi did the same thing. 


Quote:
The question of seat 'ownership' is important because party jumping can have significant consequences-Senator Meg Lees's decision to quit the Australian Democrats to sit as an independent in July 2002 changed the political dynamics of the Senate and may yet allow the Howard Government to pass legislation that it could not pass before the defection.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:03am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:57am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.


.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure.  Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support. 

CLUELESS
just admit it Aussie...
YOU have no clue.
best you talk about Palmer's Party eh..  how's that going BTW?

What is left of PHON is what we are dealing with...  but it is not structure free etc.

Best you shut up unless you actually know something. ::)



Quote:
operating Party structure


See the word 'operating?'  PHON may have a Constitutional structure but none exists in reality on the ground.  It is Hanson and Ashby and that's that.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:09am


Go bleat elsewhere Aussie. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:41am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
One more thing - in recent years, some people have defected to One Nation at state level. Are they also disloyal? Do you find that astonishing?


I find it appalling don't you?  That people are so disloyal and so ignorant and pathetic..  YES.  If you can't hack it don't join.  But like I told you PHON is scraping the barrel bottom as far as candidates go these days.  It will take a lot for the good members that left to rejoin the party if they ever do.  many will now try the Australian Conservatives, PHON votes are now well and truly split.

No. I do not find it appalling at all. Treating party defections as if it's some sort of political apostasy is quite ridiculous.

Voters don't actually vote for parties. Voters vote for candidates. The Constitution covers candidates in depth but made no mention of political parties at all until it was amended in a 1977 Referendum. Candidates may represent political parties and their policy platform, but fundamentally it's the candidate who is elected, not the party. If it was only parties that were elected, independents would never get elected and candidates would not receive personal support.

Candidates who leave their party do not do so without repercussions. They will face the judgement of the voters when they are next up for election. They may be re-elected, or the voters may reject them. Most end up losing their seat. Others get re-elected in their own right. It is this inevitable judgement from the voters that tempers any tendency towards defections.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:06am

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:41am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
One more thing - in recent years, some people have defected to One Nation at state level. Are they also disloyal? Do you find that astonishing?


I find it appalling don't you?  That people are so disloyal and so ignorant and pathetic..  YES.  If you can't hack it don't join.  But like I told you PHON is scraping the barrel bottom as far as candidates go these days.  It will take a lot for the good members that left to rejoin the party if they ever do.  many will now try the Australian Conservatives, PHON votes are now well and truly split.

No. I do not find it appalling at all. Treating party defections as if it's some sort of political apostasy is quite ridiculous.

Well no one has you are the one carrying on like a screaming meamy... calling it what it is is just being factual.

Voters don't actually vote for parties. Voters vote for candidates.

Well that's rubbish isn't it voters don't usually even know the candidate...  They do in fact vote for the Party.  To suggest otherwise is nonsense.  Why do you suppose the party name appears next to the candidate or candidates appear beneath the party name?

The Constitution covers candidates in depth but made no mention of political parties at all until it was amended in a 1977 Referendum. Candidates may represent political parties and their policy platform, but fundamentally it's the candidate who is elected, not the party. If it was only parties that were elected, independents would never get elected and candidates would not receive personal support.

Really you've lost grip of reality there Sunshine.

Candidates who leave their party do not do so without repercussions. They will face the judgement of the voters when they are next up for election.

Senators last 2 terms and compared to the rest of us could live off their savings super and benefits till and after retirement.

They may be re-elected, or the voters may reject them. Most end up losing their seat. Others get re-elected in their own right. It is this inevitable judgement from the voters that tempers any tendency towards defections.

But to hell with the original intents of the voters eh...  now that is a pathetic attitude.


Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:07am

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments...  YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:10am

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)


Boom!

The sinister goose gets owned again    ;D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am
Oh and Bam anytime you want to prove anything I've said is wrong you just go right ahead.

Have you commented on the ALPs lack of Democracy and dwindling membership?
Or any of Mark Butlers comments ?
No?
How unusual for you.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:15am
hey peccerhead you TROLL...

wassup not getting any attention today...  gotta lie to get some....

gee how unusual for you.


Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:07am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments...  YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.


Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:27am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am:
Oh and Bam anytime you want to prove anything I've said is wrong you just go right ahead.

Have you commented on the ALPs lack of Democracy and dwindling membership?
Or any of Mark Butlers comments ?
No?
How unusual for you.


Haven't you made a thread about that ? Or are you going to continue to try and deflect from your beloved poor man's liberal party in this one  :D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:18pm

Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:27am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am:
Oh and Bam anytime you want to prove anything I've said is wrong you just go right ahead.

Have you commented on the ALPs lack of Democracy and dwindling membership?
Or any of Mark Butlers comments ?
No?
How unusual for you.


Haven't you made a thread about that ? Or are you going to continue to try and deflect from your beloved poor man's liberal party in this one  :D

oh I created the ALP one for you CFMEU.  Since YOU were so interested in this one.

have you bothered to comment on what the ALP President has said yet?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:19pm

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)


The sinister goose is cooked!


Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:21pm
TROLL.... run along now ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Repetition won't make you right.
I'd have thought you'd have learnt that by now fool :D :D :D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)


The sinister goose is cooked!


Done like a dinner  ;D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:37pm

Its time wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)


The sinister goose is cooked!


Done like a dinner  ;D


The goose is stuffed.



Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:
As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

:-? :-? :-?

You call 20+ years fairly new?  Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.


.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure.  Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support. 


I thought they were in the wilderness for a decade or so....Apparently I was wrong???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:07am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments...  YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.

Handwaving is not a refutation, nor is shifting the goalposts.

You need to watch this episode of Four Corners - or at least read the transcript - and then draw your own conclusions regarding One Nation's governance. Why won't you do this?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:44pm
Pauline Hanson's One Nation is being investigated by electoral authorities (Business Insider, 26/5/17)

Quote:
The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has used special coercive powers to force Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to hand over information about a small plane used by the senator during election campaigns.

Electoral commissioner Tom Rogers told Senate Estimates yesterday that the AEC was looking into the ownership of a plane and had to use its coercive powers for the first time in five years after it struggled to get the information it needs from One Nation.

Last month ABC TV’s Four Corners investigated the ownership of the light plane, which was used by Hanson during last year’s election campaign. The AEC is investigating claims that Pauline Hanson’s One Nation breached electoral disclosure laws by failing to declare the Jabiru aircraft.

Four Corners alleged property developer Bill McNee bought the plane for the party as far back at 2015. McNee denies it. Hanson’s controversial chief of staff, James Ashby, is a pilot.

Earlier this year senator Hanson told Sky News it was “the party’s plane”, but she paid for fuel out of her own pocket since the election, but this month, she revised her position, saying Ashby, bought it from McNee.

At estimates yesterday, commissioner Rogers said the AEC had issued notices to party officials to compel them to provide the information they sought.

“With the issue of those notices, the matter ceased being an inquiry and became a formal investigation and that’s where we are at the moment,” he said.


Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:17pm

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:07am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Their governance is appalling.


Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments...  YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.

Handwaving is not a refutation, nor is shifting the goalposts.

You need to watch this episode of Four Corners - or at least read the transcript - and then draw your own conclusions regarding One Nation's governance. Why won't you do this?

YOU'RE doing the handwaving not me.
YOU believe everything the ABC tells you apparently.
Well I watched the program and I know where its right and wrong.  my own conclusions aren't biased like yours.  If you'd been a member you might have a better idea about the reality of the situation and the people involved.

I know a great deal about the party and its various state branches and personel, thanks...  what do YOU actually know? ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:20pm

Bam wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Pauline Hanson's One Nation is being investigated by electoral authorities (Business Insider, 26/5/17)

Quote:
The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has used special coercive powers to force Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to hand over information about a small plane used by the senator during election campaigns.

Electoral commissioner Tom Rogers told Senate Estimates yesterday that the AEC was looking into the ownership of a plane and had to use its coercive powers for the first time in five years after it struggled to get the information it needs from One Nation.

Last month ABC TV’s Four Corners investigated the ownership of the light plane, which was used by Hanson during last year’s election campaign. The AEC is investigating claims that Pauline Hanson’s One Nation breached electoral disclosure laws by failing to declare the Jabiru aircraft.

Four Corners alleged property developer Bill McNee bought the plane for the party as far back at 2015. McNee denies it. Hanson’s controversial chief of staff, James Ashby, is a pilot.

Earlier this year senator Hanson told Sky News it was “the party’s plane”, but she paid for fuel out of her own pocket since the election, but this month, she revised her position, saying Ashby, bought it from McNee.

At estimates yesterday, commissioner Rogers said the AEC had issued notices to party officials to compel them to provide the information they sought.

“With the issue of those notices, the matter ceased being an inquiry and became a formal investigation and that’s where we are at the moment,” he said.

So the outcome has been what? ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:28pm
Perhaps you should read...
HOW THE ABC FRAMED PAULINE HANSON...  one of many such articles?
Or
Everything you should know about Pauline Hanson, the Queensland senator whose re-election has shaken politics... which IMO is a fair article in spite of a few errors of fact...  YOU might learn something BAM, but like your 2 troll mates I doubt it very much.


Quote:
Pauline Hanson is a cultural phenomenon and part of Australia many, especially the ruling class, don’t understand.
Critics see her as right wing – conservative on many fronts certainly – not recognising much of her world view has its roots in the Labor Party’s traditional core.
It’s a popularist, protectionist, anti-immigration view of the world. She comes from a long line of Queenslanders who portray themselves as anti-establishment outsiders – the most recent incarnation being Clive Palmer.
Hanson’s views are not dissimilar to Tasmania’s Jacqui Lambie, a senator re-elected on a platform of raging against the system and the Muslim threat.
In the ’90s, Hanson’s fear was Asian immigrants. Today it’s Muslims. She also opposes multiculturalism, CSG mining, and the foreign ownership of property or national assets.
She regards Islam as a “totalitarian political ideology” and wants cameras in mosques and Muslim schools, the burqa banned and for good measure, a royal commission into the religion. She wants a royal commission into climate change too, as well as banks.


My guess is you are so ignorant of the facts you'd deny that excerpt too. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

How ya going on the ALP internals eh...ignoring them like a good little socialist luvvie? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:34pm
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here, and told him that you claimed to be a PHON veteran, and suggested he contact you here.

Did he? 

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:39pm
You are an idiot... as if I will identify myself here for a stooge like you.
As if James would waste his time with you.

But hey, maybe I could get another well paid job eh ::) :D ;D ;)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 9:16pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:39pm:
You are an idiot... as if I will identify myself here for a stooge like you.
As if James would waste his time with you.

But hey, maybe I could get another well paid job eh ::) :D ;D ;)


No-one was asked to ID themselves Grendel.  I gave Ashby the url for here, told him what your user name is, and suggested he contact you here.

I guess he read your tripe and decided not to contact you here.

Believe it or not, I could not care less.  He wiped you.



Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 6:15am
IDIOT....

you are such a dope
as if I even believe you. :D :D :D :D :D

How's Clive going you self important twat? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by juliar on Jan 24th, 2018 at 6:57am
Now perhaps in Pauline donned her burka again...

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 7:11am
One of the political highlights of the last year.
Proved George was an ignorant ass...

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by cods on Jan 24th, 2018 at 7:24am

Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here, and told him that you claimed to be a PHON veteran, and suggested he contact you here.

Did he? 




OMG...........so you refer people to ozpol... in the hope of getting a member screwed I cant think of another word to call it..

what a diabolical thing to do...... >:( >:( >:(

you bleat about your personal news being spread around.....yet you think its ok to broadcast ozpol to a political party who can do more than ... just stamp their feet in angst...



I wonder what fd will have to say about that????.....


would you think that is ok if this happened to be your forum.?????


how many other parties have you seen fit to advise....on the good folks you dont happen to like?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 7:42am
Meh he can't get me screwed cods, I told the truth and have held several official positions within the party.  He's just a liar and a goose.
But yes it is pathetic behaviour and he should be banned for it.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 9:30am

Grendel wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 7:42am:
Meh he can't get me screwed cods, I told the truth and have held several official positions within the party.  He's just a liar and a goose.
But yes it is pathetic behaviour and he should be banned for it.



Rubbish.  You have been posting for years about being within PHON.  I gave Ashby the URL for here so if he was interested, he could follow you up.

Amazing that cods reckons trying to get politicians interested in a political Forum is naughty.  More absurd stupidity.  Where did you get the idea of intention to screw from cods?

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Bam on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:01am

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:17pm:
what do YOU actually know? ::)

I know that any political party that is led by anyone who is foolish enough to employ Ashby as a chief of staff should be avoided like the plague. He is a disloyal psychopathic snake who's only in it for himself. Look how quickly he threw Slipper under the bus. How many long-time senior ONP figures have left the party - or were pushed out - since Ashby was put in charge?

Ashby seems to be setting himself up to lead the party in the event Hanson retires from politics or he can push her out. Hanson will be 64 this year, so her retirement from politics is not an unrealistic scenario.

Do not be fooled by his apparent charm. It is a common trait of psychopaths.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:20am

Bam wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:01am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:17pm:
what do YOU actually know? ::)

I know that any political party that is led by anyone who is foolish enough to employ Ashby as a chief of staff should be avoided like the plague. He is a disloyal psychopathic snake who's only in it for himself. Look how quickly he threw Slipper under the bus. How many long-time senior ONP figures have left the party - or were pushed out - since Ashby was put in charge?

Ashby seems to be setting himself up to lead the party in the event Hanson retires from politics or he can push her out. Hanson will be 64 this year, so her retirement from politics is not an unrealistic scenario.

Do not be fooled by his apparent charm. It is a common trait of psychopaths.


It will be the end of PHON when Hanson goes.  Ashby knows he is not Party Leader material.  He is seeking to be the power broker, the bloke ultimately pulling the strings behind some muppet like Hanson.  As for charm, nah.  He is far from personally (or even publicly) charming and has the personality of a brick.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:42am
YAWN.
You have a reputation Aussie.
Speaks for itself.

Nothing I've said is inaccurate or untrue.  Play your silly games.


Quote:
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here


Your comment is fairly derogatory and negative Aussie...  why would anyone think you were doing me a favour? :D ;D :D ;D :D

Now back on topic...  and less obsessing over me eh.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:46am

Grendel wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:42am:
YAWN.
You have a reputation Aussie.
Speaks for itself.

Nothing I've said is inaccurate or untrue.  Play your silly games.


Quote:
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here


Your comment is fairly derogatory and negative Aussie...  why would anyone think you were doing me a favour? :D ;D :D ;D :D

Now back on topic...  and less obsessing over me eh.


What makes you think I was trying to do you a favour or harm?  All I attempted was to put a current PHON official in contact with a bloke who reckoned he was also a PHON official with inside knowledge of the internal workings of PHON past.  Simple as that.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 12:27pm

Bam wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:01am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:17pm:
what do YOU actually know? ::)

I know that any political party that is led by anyone who is foolish enough to employ Ashby as a chief of staff should be avoided like the plague. He is a disloyal psychopathic snake who's only in it for himself. Look how quickly he threw Slipper under the bus. How many long-time senior ONP figures have left the party - or were pushed out - since Ashby was put in charge?

Ashby seems to be setting himself up to lead the party in the event Hanson retires from politics or he can push her out. Hanson will be 64 this year, so her retirement from politics is not an unrealistic scenario.

Do not be fooled by his apparent charm. It is a common trait of psychopaths.

I don't find Ashby charming.
Nor do I pretend to know his plans etc.
I also won't denigrate the bloke due to political bias.
Also Ashby will never be leader of PHON.  Those left in it will not currently support that and there is no reason to believe that will change any time soon.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 12:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:46am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 11:42am:
YAWN.
You have a reputation Aussie.
Speaks for itself.

Nothing I've said is inaccurate or untrue.  Play your silly games.


Quote:
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here


Your comment is fairly derogatory and negative Aussie...  why would anyone think you were doing me a favour? :D ;D :D ;D :D

Now back on topic...  and less obsessing over me eh.


What makes you think I was trying to do you a favour or harm?  All I attempted was to put a current PHON official in contact with a bloke who reckoned he was also a PHON official with inside knowledge of the internal workings of PHON past.  Simple as that.

Well I do wish you'd make your mind up Aussie...
What right  do you have to do something I haven't done for myself?  hmmm.

Cods nailed you.
Your reputation as a ratbag proceeds you and your actions.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 24th, 2018 at 12:32pm

cods wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 7:24am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Grendel, you do not have a clue.  In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here, and told him that you claimed to be a PHON veteran, and suggested he contact you here.

Did he? 




OMG...........so you refer people to ozpol... in the hope of getting a member screwed I cant think of another word to call it..

what a diabolical thing to do...... >:( >:( >:(

you bleat about your personal news being spread around.....yet you think its ok to broadcast ozpol to a political party who can do more than ... just stamp their feet in angst...



I wonder what fd will have to say about that????.....


would you think that is ok if this happened to be your forum.?????


how many other parties have you seen fit to advise....on the good folks you dont happen to like?


What the ... ?     :-/

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:18pm

Quote:
What right  do you have to do something I haven't done for myself?  hmmm.


You had no opportunity to do it for yourself.  You do not have his mobile phone number.  I do.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by salad in on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:22pm

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


It will fail because she will not get the backing of the Senate to refer him.  This is just PHON looking for and getting schmedia attention.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 2:49pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:18pm:

Quote:
What right  do you have to do something I haven't done for myself?  hmmm.


You had no opportunity to do it for yourself.  You do not have his mobile phone number.  I do.

I could do it anytime I like...

You lose Aussie...

You Sir are a total Ratbag.

Maybe another long holiday will persuade you to stop doing things like this to site members and involving the site itself...  I haven't invited YOU into my life...  so stay out of it. ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Aussie on Jan 24th, 2018 at 2:55pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 2:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:18pm:

Quote:
What right  do you have to do something I haven't done for myself?  hmmm.


You had no opportunity to do it for yourself.  You do not have his mobile phone number.  I do.

I could do it anytime I like...

You lose Aussie...

You Sir are a total Ratbag.

Maybe another long holiday will persuade you to stop doing things like this to site members and involving the site itself...  I haven't invited YOU into my life...  so stay out of it. ::)


What is it which is beyond the comprehension of some people who seem to be needing spoon feeding on just about everything?  Why try to high ball this simple non invasive matter into something it is not, or even remotely close to it.

Grow up Grendel.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 24th, 2018 at 9:51pm
You are a goner Aussie face it....

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by juliar on Jan 28th, 2018 at 8:32pm
Pauline for president.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:56am
LOL

have you ever met pauline scoot?
Nope...
are you clueless about her personality....?
yep.

do try to stick to things you actually know about.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:21pm
I once, many years ago, had dinner with Pauline Hanson.   Her personality was that of a typical Aussie small-business woman.   Ill-educated, ignorant and quite foolish.    I have a signed copy of her hagiography somewhere.   Does anybody want to buy it?

Then we had "The Truth".   So, where is our Cyborg, Lesbian, half-Asian female President?   Mmmm...    ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
I once, many years ago, had dinner with Pauline Hanson.   Her personality was that of a typical Aussie small-business woman.   Ill-educated, ignorant and quite foolish.    I have a signed copy of her hagiography somewhere.   Does anybody want to buy it?

Then we had "The Truth".   So, where is our Cyborg, Lesbian, half-Asian female President?   Mmmm...    ::)


Rest the book on toilet lid for one of those moments you get caught short with the loo paper

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
I once, many years ago, had dinner with Pauline Hanson.   Her personality was that of a typical Aussie small-business woman.   Ill-educated, ignorant and quite foolish.    I have a signed copy of her hagiography somewhere.   Does anybody want to buy it?

Then we had "The Truth".   So, where is our Cyborg, Lesbian, half-Asian female President?   Mmmm...    ::)

Oh yeah, but you are such a superior exception bwian... Dr of Divinity and all that...

wassup still jealous? :D :D :D :D :D

Still lying about "The Truth" I see...  you pathetic individual.  She never wrote it did she bwian.

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short


She really is a stupid ignorant bitch....So much for her loving Australia???


Quote:
Former One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson, who made her political name railing against immigrants, says she is emigrating to Britain because there are no more opportunities for her in Australia.

In an interview with Woman's Day, the divisive former federal MP revealed her plans to sell her south-east Queensland property and leave Australia.

"I'm going to be away indefinitely. It's pretty much goodbye forever," she said in the interview.

"I've really had enough. I want peace in my life. I want contentment and that's what I'm aiming for."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-15/goodbye-forever-as-hanson-moves-to-uk/331628

It is not just Asians and Muslims Pauline Hanson hates....She is racist against anyone who is an immigrant....Her rally against Muslims is the latest way for her to remain relevant and appeal to the lowest form of populism!!!


Quote:
PAULINE Hanson has abandoned plans to move to Britain, after discovering it's not the racially pure utopia she was hoping for.
After returning a fortnight ago from an extended holiday in Europe, the former One Nation leader has reportedly said she's back in Australia for good and considering yet another return to politics.

"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees," Ms Hanson said.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/uk-too-full-of-immigrants-says-pauline-hanson/news-story/5b2c0c00b62879d9fc9b88279e569f39

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Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short


She really is a stupid ignorant bitch....So much for her loving Australia???


Quote:
Former One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson, who made her political name railing against immigrants, says she is emigrating to Britain because there are no more opportunities for her in Australia.

In an interview with Woman's Day, the divisive former federal MP revealed her plans to sell her south-east Queensland property and leave Australia.

"I'm going to be away indefinitely. It's pretty much goodbye forever," she said in the interview.

"I've really had enough. I want peace in my life. I want contentment and that's what I'm aiming for."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-15/goodbye-forever-as-hanson-moves-to-uk/331628

It is not just Asians and Muslims Pauline Hanson hates....She is racist against anyone who is an immigrant....Her rally against Muslims is the latest way for her to remain relevant and appeal to the lowest form of populism!!!

[quote]PAULINE Hanson has abandoned plans to move to Britain, after discovering it's not the racially pure utopia she was hoping for.
After returning a fortnight ago from an extended holiday in Europe, the former One Nation leader has reportedly said she's back in Australia for good and considering yet another return to politics.

"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees," Ms Hanson said.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/uk-too-full-of-immigrants-says-pauline-hanson/news-story/5b2c0c00b62879d9fc9b88279e569f39

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Oh dear...  wassup Phil nothing current for you to post?

Nothing truthful for you to say? ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:10pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short


She really is a stupid ignorant bitch....So much for her loving Australia???


Quote:
Former One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson, who made her political name railing against immigrants, says she is emigrating to Britain because there are no more opportunities for her in Australia.

In an interview with Woman's Day, the divisive former federal MP revealed her plans to sell her south-east Queensland property and leave Australia.

"I'm going to be away indefinitely. It's pretty much goodbye forever," she said in the interview.

"I've really had enough. I want peace in my life. I want contentment and that's what I'm aiming for."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-15/goodbye-forever-as-hanson-moves-to-uk/331628

It is not just Asians and Muslims Pauline Hanson hates....She is racist against anyone who is an immigrant....Her rally against Muslims is the latest way for her to remain relevant and appeal to the lowest form of populism!!!

[quote]PAULINE Hanson has abandoned plans to move to Britain, after discovering it's not the racially pure utopia she was hoping for.
After returning a fortnight ago from an extended holiday in Europe, the former One Nation leader has reportedly said she's back in Australia for good and considering yet another return to politics.

"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees," Ms Hanson said.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/uk-too-full-of-immigrants-says-pauline-hanson/news-story/5b2c0c00b62879d9fc9b88279e569f39

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Oh dear...  wassup Phil nothing current for you to post?

Nothing truthful for you to say? ::) ::) ::)[/quote]

What's wrong dickhead....Don't like me pointing out what a stupid racist bitch Pauline Hanson is....She was moving to England forever....Another lie you cannot defend but will try to deflect....What a looser!!!

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:39pm
Kevin jumps in and defends Whitney

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 30th, 2018 at 7:13am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short


She really is a stupid ignorant bitch....So much for her loving Australia???


Quote:
Former One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson, who made her political name railing against immigrants, says she is emigrating to Britain because there are no more opportunities for her in Australia.

In an interview with Woman's Day, the divisive former federal MP revealed her plans to sell her south-east Queensland property and leave Australia.

"I'm going to be away indefinitely. It's pretty much goodbye forever," she said in the interview.

"I've really had enough. I want peace in my life. I want contentment and that's what I'm aiming for."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-15/goodbye-forever-as-hanson-moves-to-uk/331628

It is not just Asians and Muslims Pauline Hanson hates....She is racist against anyone who is an immigrant....Her rally against Muslims is the latest way for her to remain relevant and appeal to the lowest form of populism!!!

[quote]PAULINE Hanson has abandoned plans to move to Britain, after discovering it's not the racially pure utopia she was hoping for.
After returning a fortnight ago from an extended holiday in Europe, the former One Nation leader has reportedly said she's back in Australia for good and considering yet another return to politics.

"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees," Ms Hanson said.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/uk-too-full-of-immigrants-says-pauline-hanson/news-story/5b2c0c00b62879d9fc9b88279e569f39

::) ::) ::)

Oh dear...  wassup Phil nothing current for you to post?

Nothing truthful for you to say? ::) ::) ::)


What's wrong dickhead....Don't like me pointing out what a stupid racist bitch Pauline Hanson is....She was moving to England forever....Another lie you cannot defend but will try to deflect....What a looser!!!

;D ;D ;D[/quote]
Well come on Phil so far you've posted nothing to support your lies and just ignorant bias.  Your obsessive bias is almost as stupid as bwians.
lets see a list of all those racist things she believes and says...

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2018 at 2:32pm

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
I once, many years ago, had dinner with Pauline Hanson.   Her personality was that of a typical Aussie small-business woman.   Ill-educated, ignorant and quite foolish.    I have a signed copy of her hagiography somewhere.   Does anybody want to buy it?

Then we had "The Truth".   So, where is our Cyborg, Lesbian, half-Asian female President?   Mmmm...    ::)


Rest the book on toilet lid for one of those moments you get caught short with the loo paper


No, her hagiography is too valuable to waste like that.  One day, it will be worth a lot of money as a memento of her mad tilt at the windmills.   Anyway, the paper is cheap and scratchy - rather like her, personally.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 30th, 2018 at 3:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2018 at 2:32pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
I once, many years ago, had dinner with Pauline Hanson.   Her personality was that of a typical Aussie small-business woman.   Ill-educated, ignorant and quite foolish.    I have a signed copy of her hagiography somewhere.   Does anybody want to buy it?

Then we had "The Truth".   So, where is our Cyborg, Lesbian, half-Asian female President?   Mmmm...    ::)


Rest the book on toilet lid for one of those moments you get caught short with the loo paper


No, her hagiography is too valuable to waste like that.  One day, it will be worth a lot of money as a memento of her mad tilt at the windmills.   Anyway, the paper is cheap and scratchy - rather like her, personally.    ::) ::)

Come on bwian...  just admit it, tell the truth for a change.
She never wrote it.
It was written by some fruitcake from SA using her celebrity to get sales. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by philperth2010 on Jan 30th, 2018 at 9:58pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 30th, 2018 at 7:13am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jan 24th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament


Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.


That is where her attempt to have the blighter turfed out will fail.


What is telling is the fact ON help these people get elected and then they ditch the party at the first opportunity....Either ON has to choose better candidates or change what ever is dividing their party....I have seen fish and chip shops run better than ON!!!

::) ::) ::)


The predicted 12 seats to ON in QLD is still like nuclear fallout , only fell 11 short


She really is a stupid ignorant bitch....So much for her loving Australia???


Quote:
Former One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson, who made her political name railing against immigrants, says she is emigrating to Britain because there are no more opportunities for her in Australia.

In an interview with Woman's Day, the divisive former federal MP revealed her plans to sell her south-east Queensland property and leave Australia.

"I'm going to be away indefinitely. It's pretty much goodbye forever," she said in the interview.

"I've really had enough. I want peace in my life. I want contentment and that's what I'm aiming for."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-15/goodbye-forever-as-hanson-moves-to-uk/331628

It is not just Asians and Muslims Pauline Hanson hates....She is racist against anyone who is an immigrant....Her rally against Muslims is the latest way for her to remain relevant and appeal to the lowest form of populism!!!

[quote]PAULINE Hanson has abandoned plans to move to Britain, after discovering it's not the racially pure utopia she was hoping for.
After returning a fortnight ago from an extended holiday in Europe, the former One Nation leader has reportedly said she's back in Australia for good and considering yet another return to politics.

"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees," Ms Hanson said.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/uk-too-full-of-immigrants-says-pauline-hanson/news-story/5b2c0c00b62879d9fc9b88279e569f39

::) ::) ::)

Oh dear...  wassup Phil nothing current for you to post?

Nothing truthful for you to say? ::) ::) ::)


What's wrong dickhead....Don't like me pointing out what a stupid racist bitch Pauline Hanson is....She was moving to England forever....Another lie you cannot defend but will try to deflect....What a looser!!!

;D ;D ;D

Well come on Phil so far you've posted nothing to support your lies and just ignorant bias.  Your obsessive bias is almost as stupid as bwians.
lets see a list of all those racist things she believes and says...[/quote]


Pauline Hanson said....

Quote:
"I love England but so many people want to leave there because it's overrun with immigrants and refugees."



Quote:
"I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians,"


White utopia does not exist....Pauline Hanson thrives on racism and ignorance....What a stupid bitch!!!

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Title: Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Post by Grendel on Jan 31st, 2018 at 8:12am
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

LOL
That's it Phil?
After 20+ years of Hanson, that's all you have to hate someone and libel them continually? :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Both are statements of fact Phil, neither are even racist comments Phil. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


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