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Message started by ___ on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm

Title: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by ___ on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm
Malcolm Turnbull dangles middle-income tax cut during Business Council of Australia speech

Middle-income earners could get a tax cut before the next election, Malcolm Turnbull has hinted.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-20/malcolm-turnbull-hints-at-middle-income-tax-cut/9172234



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If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.

Stop attacking the penalty rate for low income workers.

These people will put Turnbull's newest debt back into the economy.


Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by lee on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:58pm
"Turnbull's First Election Bribe"

More than two years after the election; must be some kind of modern record. ;)

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by ___ on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:03pm
You got me. I forgot he's to be assassinated by his own party before the next election. Who's replacing him ... Tony everything old is new again Abbott ?

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by lee on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
You got me. I forgot he's to be assassinated by his own party before the next election. Who's replacing him ... Tony everything old is new again Abbott ?


Oh. you were talking NEXT election? Wouldn't that be about the 23rd bribe? (I'm not who counts bribes by politicians).

Such a pity you can't write coherently.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:30pm

lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
"Turnbull's First Election Bribe"

More than two years after the election; must be some kind of modern record. ;)


It's the time in the election cycle to start playing Santa Claus... start with the groups most likely to vote for your kind, and finally only as a despairing measure, give something to the peasants...

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by ___ on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:39pm

lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
You got me. I forgot he's to be assassinated by his own party before the next election. Who's replacing him ... Tony everything old is new again Abbott ?


Oh. you were talking NEXT election? Wouldn't that be about the 23rd bribe? (I'm not who counts bribes by politicians).

Such a pity you can't write coherently.



No one has posted on these other 22 Turnbull election bribes.
Perhaps you can enlighten us on all 22.
That's if they are real, and not just more of your fictional writing. 

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by juliar on Nov 21st, 2017 at 1:37am
Sounds like anon is trying to do his GetUp! infiltrator duty with a bit of fake non news.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by lee on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:24am

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Perhaps you can enlighten us on all 22.
That's if they are real, and not just more of your fictional writing.



Of course it was fictional writing. Didn't you read it?


lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm:
(I'm not who counts bribes by politicians).



It must suck to have your level of comprehension. ;)

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by ___ on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:44am

lee wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:24am:

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Perhaps you can enlighten us on all 22.
That's if they are real, and not just more of your fictional writing.



Of course it was fictional writing. Didn't you read it?


lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm:
(I'm not who counts bribes by politicians).



It must suck to have your level of comprehension. ;)





Such a pity you can't write coherently.
Hacking cherrypicked bits out of larger sentences, from different posters, and then expecting other to decipher.

Lucky I ignore most of your ramblings. 


Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by lee on Nov 21st, 2017 at 11:42am

____ wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:44am:
Such a pity you can't write coherently.



Only for those that are somewhat mentally deficient. ;)


____ wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:44am:
Hacking cherrypicked bits out of larger sentences, from different posters, and then expecting other to decipher.


Yes. You do do that.


Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Bam on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm
Turnbull's fake tax cuts won't fool anybody. Handing back less than the amount that bracket creep has taken away in the past four years isn't a tax cut, it's a tax increase. Calling such adjustments "tax cuts" is simply a lie.

We need to end the endless lies of "tax cuts" that only hand back what bracket creep has taken away, and implement real income tax reform that introduces CPI indexation for all tax brackets.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by gandalf on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:55pm

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Turnbull's fake tax cuts won't fool anybody. Handing back less than the amount that bracket creep has taken away in the past four years isn't a tax cut, it's a tax increase. Calling such adjustments "tax cuts" is simply a lie.

We need to end the endless lies of "tax cuts" that only hand back what bracket creep has taken away, and implement real income tax reform that introduces CPI indexation for all tax brackets.


It just reaks of desperation. 'Quick Scott, we have to come up with something - *ANYTHING* to distract the voters from all our bungling'.

It also raises the question - is he thinking of an election?

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:23pm

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.


Who are you going to tax to give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if the bludgers want more money they should get a job the minimum wage is over $17 hr.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by gandalf on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:33pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:23pm:

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.


Who are you going to tax to give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if the bludgers want more money they should get a job the minimum wage is over $17 hr.


Unemployment is inherent in the capitalist system. In fact its a crucial element to it (so employers maintain bargaining power). We therefore, as a society, have a moral obligation to provide adequately for the unemployed. Not doing so is just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Leftwinger on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:34pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:55pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Turnbull's fake tax cuts won't fool anybody. Handing back less than the amount that bracket creep has taken away in the past four years isn't a tax cut, it's a tax increase. Calling such adjustments "tax cuts" is simply a lie.

We need to end the endless lies of "tax cuts" that only hand back what bracket creep has taken away, and implement real income tax reform that introduces CPI indexation for all tax brackets.


It just reaks of desperation. 'Quick Scott, we have to come up with something - *ANYTHING* to distract the voters from all our bungling'.

It also raises the question - is he thinking of an election?


Let's hope so , the chance to kick these drongos out has me licking my lips

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by gandalf on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:38pm

Its time wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:55pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Turnbull's fake tax cuts won't fool anybody. Handing back less than the amount that bracket creep has taken away in the past four years isn't a tax cut, it's a tax increase. Calling such adjustments "tax cuts" is simply a lie.

We need to end the endless lies of "tax cuts" that only hand back what bracket creep has taken away, and implement real income tax reform that introduces CPI indexation for all tax brackets.


It just reaks of desperation. 'Quick Scott, we have to come up with something - *ANYTHING* to distract the voters from all our bungling'.

It also raises the question - is he thinking of an election?


Let's hope so , the chance to kick these drongos out has me licking my lips


Lets see what happens on December 5 - he may not have a choice, and maybe he knows that already.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Leftwinger on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 7:02pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:55pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Turnbull's fake tax cuts won't fool anybody. Handing back less than the amount that bracket creep has taken away in the past four years isn't a tax cut, it's a tax increase. Calling such adjustments "tax cuts" is simply a lie.

We need to end the endless lies of "tax cuts" that only hand back what bracket creep has taken away, and implement real income tax reform that introduces CPI indexation for all tax brackets.


It just reaks of desperation. 'Quick Scott, we have to come up with something - *ANYTHING* to distract the voters from all our bungling'.

It also raises the question - is he thinking of an election?


Let's hope so , the chance to kick these drongos out has me licking my lips


Lets see what happens on December 5 - he may not have a choice, and maybe he knows that already.


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Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by thecuriousmail on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 7:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:23pm:

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.


Who are you going to tax to give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if the bludgers want more money they should get a job the minimum wage is over $17 hr.


Unemployment is inherent in the capitalist system. In fact its a crucial element to it (so employers maintain bargaining power). We therefore, as a society, have a moral obligation to provide adequately for the unemployed. Not doing so is just shooting ourselves in the foot.


Careful, you're making sense.
I'm not sure that is allowed here.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Bam on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:32pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:23pm:

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.


Who are you going to tax to give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if the bludgers want more money they should get a job the minimum wage is over $17 hr.

The only unemployed bludgers are the idle rich. Remember that if you want any credibility.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Bam on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:37pm

____ wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 9:25pm:
If anyone is serious about dumping even more debt into the economy ... lift payments to the unemployed.
Let them live above the poverty line.

Stop attacking the penalty rate for low income workers.

Won't happen under a Coalition government, ever. They get off on people suffering. They would rather squander billions of dollars a year of taxpayers' money to their wealthy mates under the most flimsy of pretexts than increase the dole by $5 a week with the most compelling evidence showing this increase is needed.

They only ever govern for the fortunate few.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by gandalf on Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:59pm

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:37pm:
They only ever govern for the fortunate few.


Labor wants to too. Fortunately, they are periodically forced, kicking and screaming, by various influences (including from the left faction of their own party), to stand up for the less well off. But be under no illusions, Shorten and his right faction cronies who dominate the party, would much rather emulate liberal policies like tax cuts to the rich, screw welfare recipients, subsidise and fast track corrupt foreign squillionaires wanting to destroy the environment with their coal mines, and neglect all but the most privileged schools.

Title: Re: Turnbull's First Election Bribe
Post by Bam on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Bam wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:37pm:
They only ever govern for the fortunate few.


Labor wants to too. Fortunately, they are periodically forced, kicking and screaming, by various influences (including from the left faction of their own party), to stand up for the less well off. But be under no illusions, Shorten and his right faction cronies who dominate the party, would much rather emulate liberal policies like tax cuts to the rich, screw welfare recipients, subsidise and fast track corrupt foreign squillionaires wanting to destroy the environment with their coal mines, and neglect all but the most privileged schools.

That's why Labor's leaking votes to the Greens. Either Labor will realise this and take steps, or they will be forced at some point to enter into a permanent Labor-Greens Coalition, much as the Liberals have been in Coalition with the Nationals for decades.

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