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Title: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:08pm

A controversial trillion-dollar push by China to dominate global trade is being resisted by senior national security figures who warn of serious "strategic" consequences if Australia formally signs up.

Key points:

China wants to revive an ancient network of land and ocean silk trade routes
68 countries including New Zealand have signed up to project
Numerous senior figures in Australia's national security community opposed
The ABC has confirmed the heads of the immigration and defence departments were among those opposed to Beijing's ambitious "One Belt, One Road" initiative, firmly advising the Turnbull Government earlier this year not to join it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-22/australian-concerns-over-beijing-one-belt-one-road-trade-bid/9074602

Time to dump Trump and side with China.

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Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by lee on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:13pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:08pm:

A controversial trillion-dollar push by China to dominate global trade

Why would we want anyone to have such dominance?

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:08pm:

Why: cos you're a Russian troll?

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:16pm

lee wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:13pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:08pm:

A controversial trillion-dollar push by China to dominate global trade

Why would we want anyone to have such dominance?

Why would the other countries that have already signed up want it either?

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm

A part of the plan is to collapse the US dollar and cripple the former superpower. Time to embrace the new world order.

By collapsing the US, we collapse the totalitarian capitalism the US pushes. Soon our exports will be valued at true market value, and so this makes us all better off economically.

Siding with Trump, we collapse with the US,

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Siding with China keeps us safe from the 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia how?

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:25pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Siding with China keeps us safe from the 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia how?

I don't have your Islamophobia. Being on Indonesia's doorstep, when this country will be a dominate player in the world economy this century, is a benefit.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:28pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:25pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Siding with China keeps us safe from the 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia how?

I don't have your Islamophobia. Being on Indonesia's doorstep, when this country will be a dominate player in the world economy this century, is a benefit.

Are you ordering me to believe that everyone in the world is actually my friend?

You're a fruit loop buddy: :D :D

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by John Smith on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:33pm

China wants to revive an ancient network of land and ocean silk trade routes

with Australia? :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by Hoss on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:46pm

HI ALL

There is absolutely no evidence that Australia has ever been part of the ancient silk roads to china.
8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:05pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:28pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:25pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Siding with China keeps us safe from the 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia how?

I don't have your Islamophobia. Being on Indonesia's doorstep, when this country will be a dominate player in the world economy this century, is a benefit.

Are you ordering me to believe that everyone in the world is actually my friend?

You're a fruit loop buddy: :D :D

Suggestion.
Read and comprehend whats written.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by lee on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:20pm

And having come to dominate the world trade routes; what stops them from upping their rates? Remember, you have burnt the opposition. They may not be in a position or even want to help you out. ;)

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:34pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsrtCIC4EWM

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by Francis on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:43pm

What's in it for Australia?
Real benefits... Now. Not crystal ball stuff.

And any such benefit must be guaranteed.

It's time we stopped agreeing to every other countries whims and started negotiationing strongly for, and only for, what's best for Australia.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by Francis on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:46pm

Hoss wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:

HI ALL

There is absolutely no evidence that Australia has ever been part of the ancient silk roads to china.
8-) 8-)

:D I think your my favourite poster ;D

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09pm

Labor 'open-minded' on China's Silk Road plan

Labor is keeping the door open on signing up for China's ambitious new Silk Road plan.

One Belt One Road is the superpower's vast infrastructure blueprint to boost trade and cut transit times by forging a connection via the ancient Silk Road land route and sea routes with Eurasia, Africa, Southeast Asia, the Middle East and Europe.

Sixty-eight countries have signed up for the scheme including New Zealand but Australia is holding out, mostly over national security concerns.

In a speech to the Asia Society in Sydney on Friday, Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen will flag support for potential Australian involvement.

He'll argue the scheme 'will have profound ramifications for years to come'.

'We will come to office if we win the next election with an open mind as to how Australia and China can best collaborate on the Belt and Road Initiative, with a clear-eyed approach to our respective national interests,' Mr Bowen will say.

'We will examine proposals on a case by case basis including considering how the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility and the Belt and Road Initiative can best complement each other.'

Labor's foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong has also spoken favourably of the scheme and believes Australia should be more confident about harnessing its opportunities.

She maintains the Abbott government's initial reluctance to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in 2014 was 'timorous and self-defeating'.

Roads, railways, high-speed train networks, maritime ports and airports are among the projects the scheme is building and funding.

It's open to all countries, not just those physically on the ancient trade routes.

There is $1.8 trillion worth of projects already initiated.

The scheme - which is Chinese President Xi Jinping's signature foreign policy - is more than seven times larger than America's Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe after the Second World War.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2017/09/29/labor--open-minded--on-china-s-silk-road-plan.html

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by Francis on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm

China business are massive donators too labor slush funds. They also throw the liberal party plenty of brown paper bags under the table as well.

Grow a spine. Tell them to free Tibet and stop ripping off patants. They, and they alone can take responsibly for controlling north Korea.
And by than I'll have a longer list the communists can do before we should sign anything that's for there benefit .

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by lee on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 8:36pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09pm:

'We will come to office if we win the next election with an open mind as to how Australia and China can best collaborate on the Belt and Road Initiative, with a clear-eyed approach to our respective national interests,' Mr Bowen will say.

Ringing endorsement . NOT.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by ___ on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 8:47pm

http://www.kwm.com/en/au/knowledge/insights/china-one-belt-one-road-unlocking-australia-infrastructure-potential-20160527

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by macman on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 6:27am

Is this the same china this incompetent pack of morons allowed to take control of Darwin harbor? And now we are concerned about national security? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by juliar on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 8:38am

More attention seeking by the normaly ignored anon.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 1:37pm

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:05pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:28pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:25pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

____ wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Siding with China keeps us safe from the 200 million plus muslims in Indonesia how?

I don't have your Islamophobia. Being on Indonesia's doorstep, when this country will be a dominate player in the world economy this century, is a benefit.

Are you ordering me to believe that everyone in the world is actually my friend?

You're a fruit loop buddy: :D :D

Suggestion.
Read and comprehend whats written.

Suggestion: get out of my face!

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 1:39pm

lee wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2017 at 7:20pm:

And having come to dominate the world trade routes; what stops them from upping their rates? Remember, you have burnt the opposition. They may not be in a position or even want to help you out. ;)

Exactly: ... Interesting times indeed!

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by juliar on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 4:25pm

Futility in search of Failure is wowing the world with some pusillanimous profundity.

And how much is China paying the unions to force Australian businesses to close so the work goes to China ?

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by macman on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 5:04pm

No need to search for failure Liar, your mob are the gold medalist ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 5:08pm

macman wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 5:04pm:

No need to search for failure Liar, your mob are the gold medalist ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Go macman:

Title: Re: Sign, Dam You, Sign
Post by juliar on Oct 23^rd, 2017 at 5:19pm

Heavens! Futility in search of Failure has excelled himself in the quest for irrelevance.