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Title: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam, but why are they so sadistic about it. The whippings, the torture, the stonings, the hand chops, squashing people under trucks, the stabbings, the slow decapitations, the nail bombs. Any chance they are working on new and more efficient ways to inflict agony?
These are some seriously cruel and vindictive tribes.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:24pm

It is in their genes.
.....through their matriarch, Hagar.

Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:29pm

.....whereas, the seed of Jacob [Israel] [through Isaac].....

Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Yet one more thing to utterly enrage the lineage of Hagar.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 11:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Why lie [greggery, yourself] ?

It is a mainstream doctrine of ISLAM, that the whole world must submit to Allah's religion.

Google;
whole world must accept islam

Google;
Islam will rule whole world one day

IMAGE....

“‘Peace can only be achieved through the establishment of Islam’:
Schools urged to pledge allegiance to Australia
after Muslim school told students ‘secularism was the greatest enemy'”

Quote:

By Christine Douglass-Williams on Oct 06, 2017 05:22 am

Australia: Islamic school teaches “Peace can only be achieved through establishment of Islam”

An Islamic school instructed teachers to tell students their faith should be ‘established’ across Australia.

There is nothing surprising about such a statement.

Sharia is regarded as above all laws,

and Australia is regarded as part of the House of War

to be brought under the hegemony of the House of Islam.

These ideas are taught not only in madrassas but in other Islamic institutions as well.

Education Minister Rob Stokes said:

Schools should be accountable to Australian society and not isolated from it,
and claimed Islamic schools increasingly preached against freedom of religion, thought, and expression......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/australia-islamic-school-teaches-peace-can-only-be-achieved-through-establishment-of-islam

What absolute POPPYCOCK!!!!!!!

This could never happen, here, in Australia.

Moslems, living here in Australia, all love Australia, and they all love the many benefits that the nation and people of Australia,
have given to the ISLAMIC community, here, in Australia !!!

/sarc off

.

Yadda says.....

Every single moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be, homicidal maniac.

We should be actively seeking practical ways of removing - ALL - moslems from Australia.

TRUTH.....

Many moslem children living in Australia,
are being taught, by their own parents, to HATE all Australians.

EXAMPLE #1,

Watch good 'Aussie' moslems, practicing ISLAM behind closed doors.....

------------- >

Muslims brainwash children in Australia -------- > goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

EXAMPLE #2,

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

Quote:

'Teacher quits after primary school students threaten to behead her'

QUESTION;
Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1503998490/0#0

Quote:

Why has this been happening in Australia, .....too ?

A.
1/ Because all moslems are latent, wanna-be, homicidal maniacs.

A.
2/ Because in their own homes moslems are teaching their own children how to be good moslems.

A.
3/ Because in their own homes moslems are teaching their own children how to be followers of ISLAM.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/15#15

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Agnes on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 4:58am

they are evil sadisitc scum- they ought to be wiped from the face of the earth

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by cods on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 9:43am

like Christians there are many forms of Islam...an d not all have these horrendous rules or punishments...

so I dont condemn all muslims...I have seen one or two muslim comedians and I find them the funniest of guys...I cant imagine them condoning these punishments.........I do agree some of the rules need updating and bringing into the 21st century....

but that is up to the females of the religion....if they dont step up..well!!!!!!!!....

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 10:43am

cods wrote on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

cods,

I cant decide if you are just ignorant, or being very deceitful ?

cods,

Which Allah, which Koran, and which Mohammed do these 'nice' moslems use as inspiration, for their religious beliefs ?

Allah, is a the same Allah [see Allah's Koran commands].

The Koran, is a the same Koran [ISLAM's inerrent holy book].

And their Mohammed, is a the same Mohammed [Allah's perfect moslem].

.

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

.

The militant, hateful, and murderous Koran verses,
that are the same inspiration, for your 'nice' moslems.

Verses, from what is acknowledged to be ISLAM's principle source of 'spiritual guidance', to the moslem, to every moslem.

"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

Fight against, Allah's enemies.....

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee for no exemption from fighting...And Allah knoweth well those who do their duty."
Koran 9.44

Hatred for those who are not moslems.....
.....because, they are not moslems.

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 004.144

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 10:49am

cods wrote on Oct 8^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

I have seen one or two muslim comedians and I find them the funniest of guys...

I cant imagine them condoning these punishments.........

cods,

What you say, above, simply demonstrates, imo, how utterly naive you are.

cods,

Please! .....give it up, and go and live in a nunnery.

Dictionary;
nun = = a member of a female religious community, typically one living under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.

.

The cornerstone of ALL communication by moslems, with disbelievers, appears to be lying and deceit and sophistry.

--------- >

A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

---------- >

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:25pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Freediver???? That'd impossible. Groggy doesn't know how to log off long enough to meet ANY real person let alone a particular type eg a Muslim. 😂

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:30pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:35pm

The he woke up and realised it was all a dream 😂😂😂😂😂

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 4:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

FD's talked to one.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Yes. I've also met Christians who don't want to conquer the world for Christianity, FD. Does that make them traitors to their religion or merely people who want to get on with their lives and not be persecuted for their religious beliefs?

What I also find interesting is how you ignore what Christianity has done and is doing, in favour of persecuting Muslims who are doing nothing of the things you claim they are.

When I have a Muslim knowing on my door as I have had numerous Christian nut jobs, FD, you might have a point but I won't be holding my breath. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:18pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

yes

now can you answer my PM jellyfish?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

When I have a Muslim knocking on my door as I have had numerous Christian nut jobs, FD, you might have a point but I won't be holding my breath.

An excellent point, which I've made several times before.

It makes the Islamophobes run for the hills every time.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Who said anything about personally conquering the world?

What is 'Christianity' doing Brian? I'm surprised you are allowed to mention it, given you have no right or ability to criticise other religions. Are you a Christian?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:07pm

That's 5 answers to your question, FD. DO you want to try one?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

What did you actually ask?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

You're not supposed to repeat what Muslims themselves say, Greggery. You have to ask them questions and then say they said that.

I'll give you an example. Here goes.

Excuse me, G, were they a mindless mindless collective of treacherous Jews, a traitorous hive mind with no individuality whatsoever, so unfair?

No.

G just said Jews are a treacherous mindless collective, a traitorous hive mind who deserve genocide, so rude, most racist of him.

You see?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

What did you actually ask?

See?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:21pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

Got it ;)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

I don't think you would be capable of either asking the question or knowing whether you got an answer.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:28pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Several.

How do you know?

I asked them.

What did you actually ask?

See?

Yep ;)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:53pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

I don't think you would be capable of either asking the question or knowing whether you got an answer.

Oh, I think I'll know when you answer, FD.

You?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm

Some general references to the attitude of Muzlims, and their desire to convert all infidels, can be found on this page:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony. That is an easy denial if none of your close family or associates have been victims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

That's a well-known Muslim hate site, Issue. Couldn't you post something a little more objective?

FD prefers Wikipedia.

Well, bits of it, anyway.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:14pm

Why would anyone be silly enough to pretend it is not the intention of Islam or the desire of Muslims to convert the world? It's a proselytising religion.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:59pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Why would anyone be silly enough to pretend it is not the intention of Islam or the desire of Muslims to convert the world? It's a proselytising religion.

We'll ask a Muslim, shall we?

G, do you want Islam and Muslims to take over the world?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 10:50pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

I have answered that question several times in the past, FD. Did you miss my replies to your previous efforts?

What is Christianity doing? Why, Christians are personally proselytising their religion all over the world, daily. I had some knock on my front door the other day. Never had a Muslim do that. Funny, hey? ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 10:50pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

So you are upset that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:17pm

;D ;D ;D ;D

way to go FD, when you have nothing else, you can always rely on hyperbole and hysterics.

now when can I expect an answer to my PM?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

Or are you saying Islam is not the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:22pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

now now, I asked first. Why was I banned?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:23pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No, FD, most would consider it an example of Christians recruiting.

Google: taqiyya.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:39pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

now now, I asked first. Why was I banned?

FD? .......FD?

have you run away again?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:51pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

now now, I asked first. Why was I banned?

FD? .......FD?

have you run away again?

You were banned because you evaded FD's question. Are you a jellyfish?

I hope you learned your lesson, JS. Freeeedom, innit.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 10:50pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

So you are upset that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Yes. Religion is religion, FD. It affects so many people with it's delusions. Either you favour it or you don't. Which do you do? Are you in favour of religion - all religions - or are you against religion - all religions? ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

So, Lisa, Christianity recruiting is OK to you, is it? Yet Muslims, who don't actively recruit in the same manner (knocking on peoples' doors) is not? My, how shall I put this, "Islamophobic" of you. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

now now, I asked first. Why was I banned?

FD? .......FD?

have you run away again?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

now now, I asked first. Why was I banned?

FD? .......FD?

have you run away again?

Answer the question.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 4:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 4:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

I don't agree with anything you've said Bwian Islamrossachmed.

But you already know that. ;D

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:05pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Brian is the one who claimed he finds it interesting that I ignore people knocking on his door. Most would consider that mundane, or stupid.

No.

Most of us would consider BOTH HIM AND THAT mundane, or stupid.

I don't agree with anything you've said Bwian Islamrossachmed.

But you already know that. ;D

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Move along folks, move along. Tsk, tsk, nothing of interest here, just LIsa displaying her usual ad hominem arguments for all to see. I have attempted to treat you seriously, Lisa. Now I see why everybody treats you the way they do. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:24pm

If anyone wants statistic, they can go to this site and do a little number crunching. Its more educational than crunching people's bones under trucks.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

3% of the population has produced around 400 know terrorists / terror supporters.

Going on the demographics of our muslims, the other 97% of the population should have produced about 12,933 know terrorists / terror supporters.

They have produce zero.

Which means muslims are about 12,933 times more likely to be a terrorist or active terror supporter, than other Australians.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 3:28pm

moses wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

The vast majority of terrorists in Australia have been non-Muslims.

You really need to stop telling porkies.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:34pm

Can you give us a list of them?

How far back in time do you have to go to excuse islamic terrorism in the 21st century?

At this moment in time I see the muslims are roughly just under 13,000 times more likely to be a terrorist that any non muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you tell us, FD? It's your story, afterall. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

moses wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Why would I want to excuse Islamic terrorism?

I'm just telling you the truth: the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia were carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, every single one of those terrorists is a low-life scum bag, including the (very few) Muslim ones.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:40pm

moses wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. you really don't understand how statistics work, do you, Moses? Care to explain the differences in circumstance between many Muslims and many Arab Muslims? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you tell us, FD? It's your story, afterall. ::) ::)

Would it be fair to describe as "incredibly stupid" your complaint that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote:Reply #55 - Today at 3:28pm

Quote:

The vast majority of terrorists in Australia have been non-Muslims.

I don't know of over 400 non muslim Australian terrorists, that's why I asked you to list them.

I still see, right here right now, that muslims are about 13,000 times more likely to be a terrorist than non muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

moses wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote:Reply #55 - Today at 3:28pm

Quote:

The vast majority of terrorists in Australia have been non-Muslims.

You don't know of 400 Muslim Australian terrorists either.

You're just telling lies.

Now, as I've already explained to you: the bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

However, that in no way excuses the crimes committed by the Muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you tell us, FD? It's your story, afterall. ::) ::)

Would it be fair to describe as "incredibly stupid" your complaint that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie me. You stocking up on those Kon-Tiki torches and your wooden crosses, so you can drive that, "greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy" out of your street, FD? Tsk, tsk, please grow up. Your comment was "incredibly stupid". So stupid it isn't even worth noticing. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you tell us, FD? It's your story, afterall. ::) ::)

Would it be fair to describe as "incredibly stupid" your complaint that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

What else do you think is a greater threat Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

this site tells of past foiled islamic terror attacks it has not mentioned any of the 2017 plots thwarted by our security forces.

Here are some of the most recent alleged “imminent terror attacks” Australia has narrowly escaped:

PLOT: BOMB MELBOURNE'S MOST PROMINENT SITES
DECEMBER 2016

PLOT: BEHEAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IN SYDNEY
October 2016

PLOT: DETONATE EXPLOSIVES IN MELBOURNE
August 2016

PLOT: STAB A NSW POLICE OFFICER TO DEATH
June 2016

PLOT: ACQUIRE FIREARM AND SHOOT CIVILIANS IN SYDNEY
May 2016

PLOT: BEHEAD A POLICE OFFICER & SHOOT CIVILIANS ON ANZAC DAY
April 2016

PLOT: TARGET PARRAMATTA WESTFIELD
Jan-Feb. 2016

PLOT: BOMB MELBOURNE’S MOTHER’S DAY CLASSIC EVENT
May 2015

PLOT: KILL POLICE AT ANZAC DAY CEREMONIES
April 2015

ALLEGED PLOT: TO BEHEAD INNOCENT PEOPLE
February 2015

PLOT: TARGET GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS
December 2014-March 2016

PLOT: KIDNAP INNOCENT PEOPLE IN SYDNEY & BRISBANE THEN BEHEAD THEM ON CAMERA
September 2014

While this site dated 11th February 2017 tells us:

The Federal Government believes more than 100 Australians are fighting alongside terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria.

this site dated may 2017 tells us

“There are around 200 people in Australia being investigated for providing support to individuals or groups involved in the Syria Iraq conflict,

At least 64 and possibly as many as 76 Australians have been killed because of their involvement in the conflict,

So there we have it more than a hundred definitely fighting with the terrorists, around 200 being investigated, nearly 100 dead.

Just 3% of the population (muslims) are responsible for this, the other 97% of us are responsible for nil terrorists.

Australian muslims nearly 13,000 times more likely to be a terrorist / supporter / planing a terror attack than non muslims.

Yet the leftists keep bending over backwards trying to excuse islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:33pm

moses wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

However, that in no way excuses the crimes committed by the Muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:36pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:

What else do you think is a greater threat Brian?

are we asking questions now? Does that mean we're answering them to?

why was I banned for a month FD?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:37pm

Quote:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

But Greg cannot possibly give a single example, lest he prove the idiocy of his own claim.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:43pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Quote:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

But Greg cannot possibly give a single example, lest he prove the idiocy of his own claim.

1. Jack van Tongeren.

2. Sydney Hilton bombing.

There's two examples.

Dear oh dear. The idiocy is all yours, so it seems.

As I have explained to you before, the bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:49pm

Let's not forget Peter James Knight.

A nasty little terrorist. Not a Muslim.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm

By the way, FD and moses, feel free to list all of the terrorist attacks in Australia that have been carried out by Muslims.

Not plots.

Not foiled attempts.

Not imaginary attacks.

Real terrorist attacks.

Over to you guys.

The sooner you get onto this, the sooner we can compare numbers.

And, just to let you know, Jack van Tongeren (NOT a Muslim) carried out more than 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth.

Chat soon ;)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:09pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Quote:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

But Greg cannot possibly give a single example, lest he prove the idiocy of his own claim.

does that mean you don't answer questions lest you prove the idiocy of your actions?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:12pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Quote:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

But Greg cannot possibly give a single example, lest he prove the idiocy of his own claim.

does that mean you don't answer questions lest you prove the idiocy of your actions?

I think FD took off, Mr Smith.

Looks like we won't get to find out why we were banned, or who these hundreds of Muslim terrorists in Australia are.

Oh dear.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

I think FD took off, Mr Smith.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:35pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

Of course it isn't. It is represented by only ~3% of the population, FD. Are you terrified they are going to destroy your "freedom and democracy"? Really? ::) ::)

3% of what population Brian?

Why the only one that matters, FD. The Australian one. Nearly all our Muslims are well behaved, well assimilated and non-violent. Were you talking about the overseas ones? ::) ::)

Why do only Australians matter Brian? Are Australians the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you tell us, FD? It's your story, afterall. ::) ::)

Would it be fair to describe as "incredibly stupid" your complaint that I ignore Christians knocking on your door in favour of the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy?

Jehovah Witnesses?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Quote:

The bulk of terrorism in this country has been carried out by non-Muslims.

But Greg cannot possibly give a single example, lest he prove the idiocy of his own claim.

You forgot the Afghan camel drivers, Greggery.

Don't tell FD fibs.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

Kinana, the husband of Safiya, had been guardian of the tribe's treasures, and he was
brought before the apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to
disclose the place. Then a Jew came who said, 'I have seen Kinana walk around a
certain ruin every morning.' The apostle asked Kinana, 'Art thou prepared to die if we
find thou knewest where the treasure was?' And he replied, 'Yes.' So the apostle
ordered the ruin to be dug up, and some of the treasure was found. After that Kinana
was asked again about the remainder, but he still refused to tell. The apostle of Allah
handed him over to al-Zubayr, saying, 'Torture him until he tells what he knows', and
al-Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest so that he almost expired; then the apostle gave
him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who struck off his head.

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

Little pecca made a bet with bias he would leave this forum if trump won the election, it's time for little pecca to be a man and honour his bet by pissing off from this forum.

I am not here to type to liars like little pecca who are on welfare and fritter away his pathetic life on internet forums, he is here 24/7 he doesn't work does anyone believe he has a job

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:51pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

Who cares? We're all friends. We're all here to help.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by mothra on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:51pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

I'll make a bet with you. Baron. If you never have that little highlighted tantrum again, i'll leave the forum forever.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

when did I defend Islam? All religions, islam included, are dumber than even you. And you're pretty much as dumb as they get.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:54pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

Is that a 'nobody', Baron?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

I'll make a bet with you. Baron. If you never have that little highlighted tantrum again, i'll leave the forum forever.

You can understand the poor boy's frustration.

In every thread, no matter what the topic, I destroy his "argument" with one of two posts.

It's quite understandable that he hates me, and wants me gone.

Ironically, it just makes me love him all that more.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by mothra on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:04pm

Have you been throwing ululations into FD's echo chamber again, Greg?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:08pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

when did I defend Islam? All religions, islam included, are dumber than even you. And you're pretty much as dumb as they get.

Everytime you throw the slur Islamophobia you're defending the bearded nutjobs who preach Islam and their delusional belief called Islam.

Anything to say on $Profit Muhammad ordering the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe or do you prefer to throw ad hominems which shows you have nothing.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:10pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

when did I defend Islam? All religions, islam included, are dumber than even you. And you're pretty much as dumb as they get.

Everytime you throw the slur Islamophobia you're defending ...

No.

It has nothing to do with defending anyone else.

It's just about telling the truth about a certain individual.

You, for example, are an Islamophobe.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Everytime you throw the slur Islamophobia you're defending the bearded nutjobs who preach Islam and their delusional belief called Islam.

I'm doing no such thing. Everytime I use the term Islamaphobe, I am describing you (amongst others). It has nothing to do with the bearded nutjobs.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

Anything to say on $Profit Muhammad ordering the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe or do you prefer to throw ad hominems which shows you have nothing.

about as much as I have to say on any of the nut jobs in the bible. Very little.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:30pm

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

But that is not the point. The question is why they are so sadistic. Of course, the usual defenders of Muzlims will deny they have seen any evidence of this relish for seeing infidels dying in agony.

The muslims follow $Profit Muhammad who was a sadist.

From Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, the very first biography of Muhammad in Chapter 20 Khaybar

Quote:

The Islamic prophet from god ordered the torture of Kinana so he could steal the wealth from that jewish tribe so they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

Muhammad married Safiyya who was the wife of Kinana that very night, does anyone believe that was love when Muhammad tortured and killed her husband that very day?

You can download free versions of Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq try google.

This is the prophet of the religion people like bwian and little pecca,karnal,aussie and john smith defend

Is anyone defending you, Baron?

I'm curious.

I'll make a bet with you. Baron. If you never have that little highlighted tantrum again, i'll leave the forum forever.

You lefties never honour your bets and even encourage little pecca to not honour his bet so why would anyone bet with you?

Allah tells muslims to follow Muhammads example in the quran.

Quote:

There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.
https://quran.com/33/21

What do the tafsirs say about 33/21?

Quote:

Verily there is for you a good example read iswa or uswa in the Messenger of God to emulate in combat and in holding one’s ground therein for whoever li-man substitutes for lakum ‘for you’ hopes for the encounter with God fears Him and the Last Day and remembers God often in contrast to those who do not.
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=33&tAyahNo=21&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

The Quran tells muslims to follow Muhammads example, he tortured a jew by lighting a fire on his chest before chopping his head off so he could steal the wealth of that jewish tribe.

So why do you defend Islam when you wouldn't defend any other religion are you morally bankrupt or a muslimah?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:52pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

Still working on your list, FD?

You'll be marked down for a late submission.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by gandalf on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

Do you reckon a widespread sentiment of ill-will and sinister intentions by even a small minority (as opposed to an infinitesimally tiny minority) of the half million strong muslim population towards the non-muslim population would have produced a bit more than the handful of half-arsed plots and ~3 deaths we've experienced so far in over 40 years of significant muslim immigration?

I do.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm

I believe in the past there were attacks that happened (everybody knows that).

Now leftard apologists for todays' islamic terrorism, may live in the past all they like.

However the facts are today 2107:

Reply #65 - Yesterday at 7:30pm tells us that there were at a bare minimum 12 muslim terrorist plots foiled by our authorities, over 100 Australian muslims are actively fighting for islamic terrorism overseas, nearly 100 Australian muslims terrorists have been killed overseas and over 200 hundred are under investigation for terrorism links / support.

Which plainly evidences that today 3% of our society (the muslims) are responsible for around 400 planned attacks / actively participating in terrorism / supporting terrorism.

Today the other 97% are responsible for zero planned attacks / actively participating in terrorism / supporting terrorism.

This clearly demonstrates an undeniable fact: muslims today 2017 are about 13,000 times more likely to be planing attacks / actively participating in terrorism / supporting terrorism.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:49pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

So, no attacks.

We're talking about actual attacks here.

The majority of terrorist attacks in this country, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:54pm

Thanks to the high standards of our A.F.P. your words are true regarding the past.

Now to get to the present.

An undeniable fact: muslims today 2017 are about 13,000 times more likely to be planning attacks / actively participating in terrorism / supporting terrorism.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:55pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

did you pluck that number from your arse?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

please read Reply #65 - Yesterday at 7:30pm

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:04pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

please read Reply #65 - Yesterday at 7:30pm

all you had to say was 'yes'.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:05pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Thanks to the high standards of our A.F.P. your words are true regarding the past.

My words are true regarding the present, too.

The majority of terrorist attacks in this country - right up to and including today - were carried out by non-Muslims.

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

An undeniable fact: muslims today 2017 are about 13,000 times more likely to be planning attacks / actively participating in terrorism / supporting terrorism.

That's not a fact.

It's just a piece of Islamophobic propaganda pulled out of your arse.

Here's a real fact:

"More Australians have died at the hands of police (lawfully or unlawfully) in 10 years (50 at least from 2006 to 2015) or from domestic violence in just two years (more than 318 in 2014 and 2015) than from terrorist attacks in Australia in the last 20 years."

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:20pm

Excuses excuses excuses for the muslim terrorist.

The entire globe is on some sort of terror alert because of islamic terrorism, muslims think it's their holy duty to run innocent people over with trucks and cars, slaughter innocent children at a kids concert, behead innocent people in the street, murder innocent people while they work, take people hostage and kill them, take their kids overseas and teach them how to behead people, carry out suicide attacks on innocent civilians and all we get from the leftards is denial and apologies for their behaviour.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 4:42pm

moses wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Excuses excuses excuses for the muslim terrorist.

The entire globe is on some sort of terror alert because of islamic terrorism, [Some] muslims think it's their holy duty to run innocent people over with trucks and cars, slaughter innocent children at a kids concert, behead innocent people in the street, murder innocent people while they work, take people hostage and kill them, take their kids overseas and teach them how to behead people, carry out suicide attacks on innocent civilians and all we get from the leftards is denial and apologies for their behaviour.

Fixed it for you, Moses. You ascribe to all Muslims beliefs and actions they do not hold nor undertake. Are you an Islamophobe? Yes, I'd go further. I suspect you of being a Christian bigot who sees only evil in the world's population that do not follow your religious beliefs. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

Abu explained that it was to be done in an orderly fashion - ie no taking the law into your own hands. He wouldn't elaborate on the details, but it seemed to boil down to not starting a war you are going to lose. The large number of Muslims supporting ISIS and travelling over there to die for Islam, compared to the number carrying out attacks here, suggests he is not alone in this view.

Muhammad didn't conquer the middle east with lone wolf terrorist attacks.

If you go back to the time when Muslims were last in a position to actually carry out their ill will, they expressed it regularly by raiding Europe and Africa for sex slaves. We had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that. Now Muslims are trying to use the fruits of our efforts as evidence that Islam can be civilised, despite the clear trend of degradation in those lands that have been under the influence of Islam for the longest.

Basically your argument boils down to the incompetence of Muslims proving their benign intent, with a bit more smoke and mirrors than the efforts of the other apologists.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:14pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?

My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:18pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?

My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.

Isn't it also that the Roman Empire didn't have slavery?

I could have sworn you said that. Or how about the British Empire didn't establish the biggest slave trade in history?

That's your argument too, right?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:

Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

You really need to inform the whole world they have got the entire terror thing wrong.

Meanwhile in the land of reality

from our own Australian National Security site

Listed terrorist organisations

*Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Murabitun
Listed 5 November 2014

*Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013 and 26 November 2016.

*Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009, re-listed 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 9 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014 and re-listed 27 June 2017.

*Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009, 12 May 2012 and 2 May 2015

*Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq—2 March 2005, re-listed 17 Feb 2007, 1 Nov 2008, 29 Oct 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 Dec 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State and re-listed 1 July 2017.

*Islamic State East Asia
Listed 8 September 2017

*Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)
Listed 28 November 2016.

*Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 29 June 2013, re-listed 28 June 2016 and amended on 4 November 2016 to include alias Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

*Jaish-e-Mohammed
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Lashkar-e Jhangvi
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

Looks like the muslims are the world champs in the number of listed terrorists organizations.

It's amazing how the leftards will sink to any depth to excuse global islamic terrorism, carried out by the highest grade of muslims (according to the qur'an).

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:23pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:

Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Frank on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:

Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been by Muslims everywhere. Without exception.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:41pm

Frank wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:

Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been by Muslims everywhere. Without exception.

And they're tinted.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:43pm

Frank wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:

Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been by Muslims everywhere. Without exception.

Good work, Einstein ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm

Aww gee here's me thinking the whole world was on the right track with their perception the muslims were the top of the terror list.

Now I've got leftard apologists making excuses for them yet again (what's changed?)

Oh well the leftards need to inform the rest of the world they are wrong, I mean how can we stop teror if our national security organizations are listing the wrong people?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Caesar Augustus on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:04pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?

My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.

Why do you think they weren't a threat 50 or so years ago?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:05pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

Oh, the naivety ::)

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by gandalf on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:07pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Well that makes no sense - since ISIS are specifically calling on muslims to carry out lone wolf attacks. If helping ISIS is so popular FD, why are there so few muslims actually carrying out ISIS's orders?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote: reply 114

Quote:

Oh, the naivety

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?

Well obviously according to you they don't.

They're just a bunch of islamophobes listing muslims as the top 24 odd terror organizations.

Ring the NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400 and tell them they've got it all wrong.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

"Making excuses"? Where, Moses? I have yet to see any excuses made for Terrorism, by anybody, except you, if the Terrorists are Christian. Tsk, tsk, you disown them immediately. Declare them to be non-Christians. The only Terrorism excuser we actually see to have, is yourself. Hypocrite! ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: reply 114

Quote:

Oh, the naivety

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?

Now you're getting all confused.

Who said they've got it wrong?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

if the Terrorists are Christian. Tsk, tsk, you disown them immediately. Declare them to be non-Christians.

Including himself.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by moses on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:30pm

Oh dear how the leftards cringe and crawl as the try to hide the facts of the real world from us:

muslims are the problem not Christians Jews Buddhists Hindus etc.etc.

The absolute facts are the global terrorist problem is caused by muslims.

from our own Australian National Security site

Listed terrorist organisations

*Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Murabitun
Listed 5 November 2014

*Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013 and 26 November 2016.

*Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009, re-listed 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 9 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014 and re-listed 27 June 2017.

*Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009, 12 May 2012 and 2 May 2015

*Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq—2 March 2005, re-listed 17 Feb 2007, 1 Nov 2008, 29 Oct 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 Dec 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State and re-listed 1 July 2017.

*Islamic State East Asia
Listed 8 September 2017

*Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)
Listed 28 November 2016.

*Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 29 June 2013, re-listed 28 June 2016 and amended on 4 November 2016 to include alias Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

*Jaish-e-Mohammed
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Lashkar-e Jhangvi
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:11pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Oh dear how the leftards cringe and crawl as the try to hide the facts of the real world from us

The only person hiding from the real world 'round here, Moses is yourself. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:50pm

Boy you defenders of Islam sure know how to obfuscate. Pages of it. Cutting Daniel Pearl's head off on video was just an isolated incident. The Mombai attacks were just isolated incidents, etc. I won't go on, because you don't believe it when you see it.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:57pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

They all do.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 5:38pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

They all do.

Prove it, FD. I've never met a Muslim who wanted to rule the world... ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

quran.com/5/33

quran.com/24/2

quran.com/7/124

quran.com/5/38

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

They all do.

Have you met one who has?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 7:33am

More than 100 people murdered by Muzlim fanatics in Egypt since December. Of course there is no common theme here.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41613172

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 5:44pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

Or how about the British Empire didn't establish the biggest slave trade in history?

They did not.
Arabs did that.
The most prolific users of slaves at that time were Portuguese followed by the Spaniards. The North Americans took about 10 million Africans as Slaves from a total of about 250 million slaves traded by the Arabs.
Your ignorance is showing canal!

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 6:18pm

Justsayno wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

Or how about the British Empire didn't establish the biggest slave trade in history?

250 million sounds like a lot, Matty. What happened to them. Do you have a link to your figures?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by gandalf on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 6:36pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 14^th, 2017 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:18pm:

Or how about the British Empire didn't establish the biggest slave trade in history?

250 million sounds like a lot, Matty. What happened to them. Do you have a link to your figures?

I too would be interested in a link.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Abu also believed a glorious victory was just around the corner.

Auggie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.

And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?

My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.

Why do you think they weren't a threat 50 or so years ago?

They were. But there were greater threats around, like communism, and earlier, Nazism etc.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

They all do.

Prove it, FD. I've never met a Muslim who wanted to rule the world... ::)

You are confused Brian.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

If a Muslim killed 800 innocent Jews in order to wipe out an entire tribe and scare the rest into submission, would "everyone from the left" condemn it? Or would they try to defend it so as not to offend those who were ideologically compelled to support this genocide?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:23am

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

You may need to review the leftist journals of the time, FD.

Check archaeological records for the details.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Who is defending ancient hypothetical genocide?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Most of them. Let's start with Brian. He has some peculiar excuses for this genocide.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:50pm:

Most of them.

the one question he answers and he lies about it :D :D :D

Hey FD, why was I banned?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:11pm

Have you ever seen Brian criticise this genocide?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:16pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:11pm:

Have you ever seen Brian criticise this genocide?

Do you expect Brian to complain about a vague, 1300 year old massacre that may or may not have happened? Mindless collective, no individuality whatsoever, so unfair?

This is a question.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:20pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:11pm:

Have you ever seen Brian criticise this genocide?

have you seen the reason for my banning?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:33pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

So by "most of them" you mean you expect Brian or Greggery to offer excuses and justifications?

Is this what you mean when you quote Abu's views?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:34pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:11pm:

Have you ever seen Brian criticise this genocide?

have you seen the reason for my banning?

FD expects you to offer excuses too, JS. You're a threat to our Freeeeeedom.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:35pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:33pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

So by "most of them" you mean you expect Brian or Greggery to offer excuses and justifications?

Is this what you mean when you quote Abu's views?

No. I mean he actually has. Just not in this thread yet. But it is fairly easy to reproduce this behaviour.

Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:41pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Have you promoted hatred, FD?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:49pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Promoting hatred of hypothetical 7th century prisoners of war by not lodging a complaint, eh?

Sinister.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Have you promoted hatred, FD?

It depends what you mean by promoting hatred. Hence the question. How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:53pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

You are confused Brian.

No, I am not. FD. Try again. Your dismissive tactics don't work. Prove what you have claimed... ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:55pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Have you promoted hatred, FD?

It depends what you mean by promoting hatred.

It means exactly that.

Have you been promoting hatred, FD?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:56pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Well, considering that happened a long time ago, FD condemning it without understanding the context would be pointless.

How about Jews? Afterall, they wiped out at least one village when Israel was established (Deir Yassin). Do you condemn them, FD? ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:58pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 7^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

OK, so they want to convert the world to Islam ...

Why lie?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't want this?

Have you met one who has?

They all do.

Prove it, FD. I've never met a Muslim who wanted to rule the world... ::)

You are confused Brian.

Quote:

No, I am not. FD. Try again. Your dismissive tactics don't work. Prove what you have claimed...

You are terribly confused Brian. I never claimed to have met a Muslim who wants to personally rule the world either.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:58pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Most of them. Let's start with Brian. He has some peculiar excuses for this genocide.

Excuses? Nope. Explanations, yes, I do. Which is further than you've ever gone, FD. Tsk, tsk, I suppose we should ignore all the other Genocides committed before then as well? ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Most of them. Let's start with Brian. He has some peculiar excuses for this genocide.

Excuses? Nope. Explanations, yes, I do. Which is further than you've ever gone, FD. Tsk, tsk, I suppose we should ignore all the other Genocides committed before then as well? ::)

OK Brian, please offer us your "explanations" for this genocide. Was it convenient for Muhammad to wipe them all out? 'Politically expedient,' as Gandalf would put it?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:01pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Quote:

No, I am not. FD. Try again. Your dismissive tactics don't work. Prove what you have claimed...

You are terribly confused Brian. I never claimed to have met a Muslim who wants to personally rule the world either.

Ah, so why claim it? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe-in-chief, hey? ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

I expect he will offer excuses and justifications for it. Or am I thinking of Greg?

No, you're not.

Sir Booby probably is, though.

Do you ever feel conflicted as a self identified lefty, criticising Muhammad's predilection for genocide? How do you know you aren't promoting hatred?

Have you promoted hatred, FD?

It depends what you mean by promoting hatred.

It means exactly that.

Have you been promoting hatred, FD?

The term is very vague Greg. Criticising almost anything could be interpreted as promoting hatred.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:04pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Criticising almost anything could be interpreted as promoting hatred.

a point you been willing to take full advantage of up until now :D :D :D

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

Who in this forum, from the left, is defending genocide FD?

Most of them. Let's start with Brian. He has some peculiar excuses for this genocide.

Excuses? Nope. Explanations, yes, I do. Which is further than you've ever gone, FD. Tsk, tsk, I suppose we should ignore all the other Genocides committed before then as well? ::)

OK Brian, please offer us your "explanations" for this genocide. Was it convenient for Muhammad to wipe them all out? 'Politically expedient,' as Gandalf would put it?

While unpalatable to modern tastes, it was customary throughout the ancient and medieval periods to commit genocide on a defeated enemy, FD. Historical accounts are littered with examples. That does not excuse it, however it explains why it happened. Which is more than you ever have in your attacks on Mohammed and Muslims in general. You're not interested in understanding, you just believe in condemnation. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

And what of Muslims who hold the person conducting the genocide to be the best example for all mankind to follow, including today? Does that make the genocide relevant today rather than a mere historical detail?

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

To them, perhaps. To the rest of the world? I doubt it, FD. Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists. Most are rationale, thinking, normal human beings who just happen to worship Allah, which you seem to see as a personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes.

Quote:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists.

Any stats on that Brian or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Most are rationale

Are these people from Pakistan, the most ignorant of all muslim countries or are you living with the fairies along with the vast majority of muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes

Brian just lost all credibility again with his assertion that any person that does not love muslims must be an islamophobe. What a wally.
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Israelites

LOL, you are really pushing the boat out now charlatan.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, move along folks, nothing of interest to see here. It's just the usual ad hominem arguments. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

Have you asked him, yourself, FD? I have no idea why he did it. I can however explain the reasons why he may have done it. Genocide wasn't considered immoral or a crime in Ancient and Medieval periods. I'd recommend you talk to Soren, perhaps he can explain why it happened because of someone's fascination with pooh or his mother... ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

So when you said it explains why he did it, you actually meant you have no idea why he did it?

Was murder considered a crime?

How many other genocides do you think Muhammad was witness to before he started doing it himself?

If Muslims did the exact same thing today under the same circumstances, would other Muslims consider it a crime?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Yadda on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

If Muslims did the exact same thing today under the same circumstances, would other Muslims consider it a crime?

They would not.

ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC DOCTRINE....

A true moslem only ever, knowingly, commits a righteous and just killing, whenever he murders another person.
e.g. Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar [the murderer of Curtis Cheng],
would always be regarded by his own community [i.e. within their own ranks], to have been a righteous and faultless moslem.

...i.e. every moslem is deemed by [his own sect of] ISLAM, to be faultless and to be a righteous person.
...he is a moslem!

And the victim of such a murder [by a moslem] is always, always, always,
deemed to be an infidel.
...i.e. even if/when, the victim may have, himself, claimed to be a true moslem.

THE RULE IS THAT...
Whenever and wherever a moslem is involved in a conflict, a moslem only ever kills those who are deserving of death.

------- >

SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems...
...and an example of moslems justifying this slaughter, as a moslem war against infidels.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333935983/0#0

Next to an infidel, every moslem is deemed to be a faultless and innocent person.

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 4:29pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

So when you said it explains why he did it, you actually meant you have no idea why he did it?

For him? Nope, not personally. I have provided an explanation as equally valid as your own, FD. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

So when you said it explains why he did it, you actually meant you have no idea why he did it?

For him? Nope, not personally. I have provided an explanation as equally valid as your own, FD. Tsk, tsk. ::)

You have explained that you have no idea why he did it. I accept that you have no idea, but that does not really count as an explanation. Nor is "because it was customary" an explanation for why a particular event happened, particularly when it was not actually customary. This is no less idiotic than saying "because these things happen" and expecting to be taken seriously.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

You have explained that you have no idea why he did it. I accept that you have no idea, but that does not really count as an explanation.

of course not ... the only explanations that count are those you give, no matter how far fetched, right FD?

by the way, why was I banned jellyfish?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

What explanations have I offered? Brian is the one trying to explain away Muhammad's genocide, not me.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:38pm

Justsayno wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists.

Any stats on that Brian or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Most are rationale

Are these people from Pakistan, the most ignorant of all muslim countries or are you living with the fairies along with the vast majority of muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes

Brian just lost all credibility again with his assertion that any person that does not love muslims must be an islamophobe. What a wally.
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Israelites

LOL, you are really pushing the boat out now charlatan.

Formulated any answers yet Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 8:48pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

So when you said it explains why he did it, you actually meant you have no idea why he did it?

For him? Nope, not personally. I have provided an explanation as equally valid as your own, FD. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Tough, FD, that is the only explanation on offer that provides more understanding than yours. You merely condemn for condemnation's sake without making any effort to understand the different mores of the time. Care to explain why the Israelites wiped out whole tribes in Palestine when they took up residence after leaving Egypt? Care to explain why the Romans wiped out tribes when they conquered? Of course not, because you like to view the Muslims in isolation, right? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

What explanations have I offered? Brian is the one trying to explain away Muhammad's genocide, not me.

Where have I attempted to "explain away Muhammad's genocide", FD? Care to quote it to me?

Tsk, tsk, it appears unless we all agree with your views we are trying to apologise or explain away something. I have offered an alternative to your views, nothing more. Take it or leave it but please stop telling lies about me and my views, FD. It doesn't become you. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

What explanations have I offered? Brian is the one trying to explain away Muhammad's genocide, not me.

why was I banned?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 8:48pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

So when you said it explains why he did it, you actually meant you have no idea why he did it?

For him? Nope, not personally. I have provided an explanation as equally valid as your own, FD. Tsk, tsk. ::)

How does saying you have no idea why it happened better explain why it happened?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 10:23pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

What explanations have I offered? Brian is the one trying to explain away Muhammad's genocide, not me.

why was I banned?

Look, stop asking FD difficult questions, okay?

If you must know, that's exactly why you were banned.

Now go away and don't ask again.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 10:52pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 10:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

What explanations have I offered? Brian is the one trying to explain away Muhammad's genocide, not me.

why was I banned?

Look, stop asking FD difficult questions, okay?

If you must know, that's exactly why you were banned.

Now go away and don't ask again.

ahhh ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 5:42pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

How does saying you have no idea why it happened better explain why it happened?

It is just as good as claiming Allah told him to do it, FD. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

How does saying you have no idea why it happened better explain why it happened?

It is just as good as claiming Allah told him to do it, FD. ::)

That was his stated reason reason, which is a lot more useful than "I have no idea why he did it, and this is the reason he did it".

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:08pm

Justsayno wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists.

Any stats on that Brian or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Most are rationale

Are these people from Pakistan, the most ignorant of all muslim countries or are you living with the fairies along with the vast majority of muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes

Brian just lost all credibility again with his assertion that any person that does not love muslims must be an islamophobe. What a wally.
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Israelites

LOL, you are really pushing the boat out now charlatan.

Formulated any answers yet Brian?

Any proof of your statements that you claim as fact Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:11pm

Justsayno wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists.

Any stats on that Brian or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Most are rationale

Are these people from Pakistan, the most ignorant of all muslim countries or are you living with the fairies along with the vast majority of muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes

Brian just lost all credibility again with his assertion that any person that does not love muslims must be an islamophobe. What a wally.
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Israelites

LOL, you are really pushing the boat out now charlatan.

Formulated any answers yet Brian?

Any proof of your statements that you claim as fact Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Justsayno on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:12pm

Justsayno wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Justsayno wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Remember, most Muslims are not hard-core, extremists.

Any stats on that Brian or did you just pluck it out of thin air?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Most are rationale

Are these people from Pakistan, the most ignorant of all muslim countries or are you living with the fairies along with the vast majority of muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

personal insult to yourself and all the other Islamophobes

Brian just lost all credibility again with his assertion that any person that does not love muslims must be an islamophobe. What a wally.
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Israelites

LOL, you are really pushing the boat out now charlatan.

Formulated any answers yet Brian?

Any proof of your statements that you claim as fact Brian?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:29pm

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

How does saying you have no idea why it happened better explain why it happened?

It is just as good as claiming Allah told him to do it, FD. ::)

That was his stated reason reason, which is a lot more useful than "I have no idea why he did it, and this is the reason he did it".

Well, apart from your stuttering, I never said that, FD. Why don't you quote back exactly what I said for a change? Tsk, tsk, ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Well, apart from your stuttering, I never said that, FD. Why don't you quote back exactly what I said for a change?

fd loves putting words in peoples mouths :D :D

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 6:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

How does saying you have no idea why it happened better explain why it happened?

It is just as good as claiming Allah told him to do it, FD. ::)

That was his stated reason reason, which is a lot more useful than "I have no idea why he did it, and this is the reason he did it".

Well, apart from your stuttering, I never said that, FD. Why don't you quote back exactly what I said for a change? Tsk, tsk, ::)

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Well, apart from your stuttering, I never said that, FD. Why don't you quote back exactly what I said for a change?

fd loves putting words in peoples mouths :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

Have you asked him, yourself, FD? I have no idea why he did it.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:38pm

Amazing how you still refuse to quote the entire passage, FD. Tsk, tsk, why, are you afraid it shows what I said in a better light than you're willing to allow?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Was it customary to commit genocide against an enemy that surrendered without a fight?

Ask the Israelites. They did it. Tsk, tsk. ::)

So Muhammad committed genocide because it was customary?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:46pm

So you have no idea why he did it? Your greatest insight is that he 'might' have done it because it was 'normal'?

How many acts of genocide do you think Muhammad witnessed before he started conducting his own?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Karnal on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:05pm

Tell FD about that Jew Moh killed for his gold, Brian.

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:46pm

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

So you have no idea why he did it? Your greatest insight is that he 'might' have done it because it was 'normal'?

Sounds like as good an explanation as any, FD. I'll take that as an admission that you attempted to misrepresent what I had typed, shall I? ::)

Quote:

How many acts of genocide do you think Muhammad witnessed before he started conducting his own?

I have no idea. Do you? Perhaps he heard about the Jews and the Romans? Who knows?

So, once more you're left out on your Islamophobic limb, hey, FD? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by freediver on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:14pm

You said you had no idea Brian. For once, I agree with you. Are you now saying you have no idea whether you have no idea?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by John Smith on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

You said you had no idea Brian. For once, I agree with you. Are you now saying you have no idea whether you have no idea?

are you putting words in his mouth again FD?

why was I banned?

Title: Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 3:33pm

freediver wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

You said you had no idea Brian. For once, I agree with you. Are you now saying you have no idea whether you have no idea?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::)