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Title: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm If you value men being men and women being women, vote NO. If you want boys to be boys and girls to be girls, vote NO. If you want a future where you are allowed to think for yourself, vote NO. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:17pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Channelling Tony Abbott, are we? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:21pm
I'm voting yes
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:27pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Why did you involve children in this discussion? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:28pm
If political correctness has gone to far then here is a chance to voice your opinion in secret, don't waste this chance, it may never come around again. Vote NO ffs.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:30pm Vote for yourself. Vote for you. If you are a homo who wants to get married, vote for that. If you are a normal person, vote no. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:32pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:30pm:
Looks like Sprint will be voting 'yes'. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:52pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:30pm:
If that was the case it would be a resounding 99% victory to the NO case, a certain element in the community seems hell bent on catering to the queer as anything minority groups for some unknown reason, maybe an unhappy childhood or perhaps some psychological impairment. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by stunspore on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Should we help Sprint out and vote 'yes' then? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:54pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:30pm:
I agree Sprint, I'm voting no because I do not give my approval or consent for men to sodomise each others backsides like animals or beasts. It's revolting & disgusting. Only 150 years ago you could be hanged by the neck until dead in most countries in the world - including Australia - for such behavior. To think that we should be approving this now is beyond comprehension. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:58pm
If you value equality and the right to choose vote yes!!!
If you want everyone to be treated equal under the law vote yes!!! If you want a future where freedom is placed before prejudice vote yes!!! ::) ::) ::) The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law. Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:13pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:58pm:
Aristotle! how would he go these days, flailing in the quagmire I would suspect, but that's not important right now. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:17pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:13pm:
He would probably vote for equality like all free thinking people??? :-? :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:26pm
Yes
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:29pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:
Equality has certain limitations, certain social demands, for example we don't allow beastiality, its not a free for all. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:38pm Quote:
Following that rule almost everyone here is obviously voting yes, normal holds a very small minority in this place. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:40pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:38pm:
Ducks don't count. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:43pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:29pm:
What does your comment have to do with allowing same sex marriage....Homosexuality is not a crime yet you conflate irrelevant bullshit to prove what exactly??? :-? :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by issuevoter on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:54pm
You Homophobes are so out of touch with reality. The Yes campaign has the media on its side, so bend over and take it like a man.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:57pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
To merely point out limitations are applicable and weird behavior will not be tolerated. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:02pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:52pm:
yes, that 'certain element in the community' have used false propaganda to push everyone into the mindset that we should vote for what other people want, we should vote for who tells the nicest story. that does not work. vote for yourself. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:09pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
The media worked well with the silent majority in the US election didn't it. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:15pm
Normal People should vote NO
I'm sure that they both will. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:20pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:15pm:
What do you mean Duck. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:22pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:15pm:
;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:28pm Its time wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:22pm:
Have you heard the one about the horse walking into the bar. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 10:29pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 9:54pm:
The media onside? That's a good reason to vote NO.... if those d1cks want it, it can't be good. Bloody heterophobes.... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by juliar on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:55am
Why are the Lefties so keen on this sick SSM rubbish ?
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:06am juliar wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:55am:
It annoys you. That's good enough reason. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:16am Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:54pm:
Doesn't anyone agree with me? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:18am Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:16am:
Everyone agrees that you have no idea what SSM is, and that you are obsessed with male to male anal sex, yes. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:23am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:18am:
OK - now you're gunna tell me that they just hold hands. Greggy - they're sodomites. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:30am
Medically: Putting a penis inside a Rectum results in Urinary Tract Infections (often) because of the 'bacteria' in the Rectum. Then the penis is often put in the mouth and in regards to Hetero couples who practice 'anal-sex' the bacteria is transferred to the Vagina where infection eventually also occurs. Anal-sex also results in the eventual damage to the rectum area which results in it needing 'repair' (I used to watch these ops in theatre where the patient is laid bent over and the rectum pulled out to be repaired). Later in life, Continence Pads are a common need because the rectum muscles are no longer strong enough to 'hold' it in.
Basically - its a result of 'spreading bacteria' from the Rectum. Really a very 'dirty' expression of sex, if you call it that. It's not proven, but the possibility of this Bacteria into other anus's and vaginas may be the 'trigger' to more serious infections that come under such things as The Clap and other STD's. Just because it can, doesn't mean it should. We could always tell the guy who goes down on his female partner at work. He was always a C-word :P |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:33am Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:30am:
And yet they never mention that in parliament. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:35am
If you support Voluntary Euthanasia.
Vote Yes to Marriage Equality, so we can then can have a postal survey for V.E. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:38am Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:23am:
SSM has nothing to do with male to male anal sex. Your obsession with that subject is becoming quite a concern, Booby. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:39am Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:30am:
Off topic. Try to remain focused. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:41am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:38am:
It's the painful truth that is never mentioned in the debate in parliament. All they talk about is love not arse banging. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:52am Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Childish, off topic garbage. Stay on topic, Booby. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:16am
We will have marriage equality before year is finished
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:21am Its time wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:16am:
What bloke will you marry? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:23am Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:21am:
I'm flattered booby but I've been with my wife for nearly 30 years |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by tickleandrose on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:33am
I will vote yes. Because I value humans being humans.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by juliar on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:40am
In the very unlikely event YES happens it will open up the Greeny political correctness flood gates.
Perhaps THIS is why the Lefties are supporting YES ? Or maybe they just don't have a clue and are just being misled by the sick GetUp! lying propaganda. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:44am juliar wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:40am:
It'll do more than that. If same sex couples are allowed to marry, it'll be the end of the world as we know it. Homosexuality will become compulsory, children will be taken away from their parents and handed over to paedophiles, the oceans will dry up, and the sky will fall in. Don't say you weren't warned, juliar. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by tickleandrose on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:45am
Its not just the left who are voting yes. Our family is traditionally liberal and live in a traditional liberal electorate. We are going to vote yes, just as my grand parents voted yes in 1967. This is not a decision of left or right, but rather of human decency and fairness.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:54am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:44am:
;D the same thing will happen as it did in NZ, SSM, and that's it , rightards are farkkkn insane |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:54am tickleandrose wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:45am:
Well said. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Secret Wars on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:59am Its time wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Rightards? They are he ones trying to force their own party to legislate for SSM. It was luvvies not that long ago who just voted no, couldnt even be arsed. It's actually funny now watching Penny Wong hyperventilating with outrage. You clowns have short memories. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:00am
It's a vote about what is right or wrong.
It's a vote to say to weirdos, 'we do not support your decisions or weird lifestyle.' We do not accept you. In our world, 'anything' does not go. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:02am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:00am:
We have to put up with Christians , and most of them are batshit crazy |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:09am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:00am:
But isnt the whole point of a democratic free society that we should accept rather than limit weirdness? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:16am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:09am:
That's a word he won't be familiar with. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by bwood1946 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:17am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:09am:
"Democratic free society" So vote as you wish! :D :D :D :D yes/NO |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:53am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:09am:
I think a democratic free society should look after itself first. europe did badly by accepting germanys rampage or the muslims infux. maoris did badly by accepting the whites, fijians were almost wiped out by accepting the whites |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:56am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:53am:
Off topic. Stay focused. SSM |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by capitosinora on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:59am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm:
100% agree. Stop Paedophilia. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:04pm capitosinora wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:59am:
Off topic. Stay focused. SSM |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:06pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:00am:
What decisions and weird lifestyle of mine offends you? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:24pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Probably your open-mindedness, acceptance, and tolerance. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:31pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
don't know, what decisions and weird lifestyle do you have ? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:34pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:09am:
I may be wrong here but in a truly free society we can either accept weirdness or reject it as equally valid options. As soon as you force someone to accept your ideology against their own beliefs, then you are wrong. Something most socialist do not understand. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:35pm
I really couldn't give a rats who does what.
They were already rooting each other before they wed so SSM won't start a massive influx of new disease because the sex side is already happeing and the diseases are going to happen regardless. SS relationships aren't normal, period. You want to do it then fine but it's not normal. Stop looking for it to be accepted as "normal". For reproduction to happen there has to be a male and female. Simple. Nothing will change that. None of you would be here without it. IMO its a load of crap that this is even being considered as important. I'm not even voting. Shows what this world really is. Blind idiots running around making loud noises. On the bright side it might be time to open up that divorce lawyers firm because the amount of divorces now will skyrocket. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:38pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
None. Yet you are the one claiming I have. So in your mind, what are they? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:42pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:35pm:
This is about marriage, not reproduction. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:46pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:58pm:
This is the reason why I am responding "yes" to the survey - to reduce legal inequality. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Aussie on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:47pm
Funny how you often read that those who oppose SSM are being bullied and or abused by a minority.
The Thread title says it all, does it not? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
So marriage between anything and anything or will the homos decide who and what can't join in? The freak list is pretty big, best let the freaks decide what can or can't get married, all in one go. Don't want to bother with these people anymore after this bullsh1t. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:51pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Well if you list all of your sexual proclivities, Ill have a go at pointing out the ones that most people would consider pretty fkken wrong. :) :) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
Yep and marriage has always been between male and female and most of the time involved children at some stage. Why cant they call it something else instead? Marraige is what us straights have, find another word/meaning. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:04pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Abstinent Now over to you to point them out. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Unforgiven on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm:
The qualification 'normal' disqualifies Sprintcyclist and his ratbag right wing extremist ilk. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
Did he know that? He may think deliberately not getting laid is a bit weird. Personally I think it is a lot weird, it's something catholic priests do and they a seriously fkked up. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by tickleandrose on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:28pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Do not listen to the above. A man is not less of a man if he loves a man. A woman is not less of a woman if she loves a woman. If you want a future where you are allowed to think for yourself, and not be caged in by some outdated 'tradition' - that was also made by humans, then you should vote a resounding YES. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by bwood1946 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm tickleandrose wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:28pm:
Print Email Facebook Twitter More Same-sex marriage survey: Petition to deregister Pansy Lai, doctor in No campaign ad, taken down By Lily Mayers Updated 51 minutes ago Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek. VIDEO: A No television advert ahead of the same-sex marriage survey (ABC News) RELATED STORY: Tighter same-sex marriage survey restrictions on hold as first No ad airsRELATED STORY: Why the No campaign's first TV ad will work MAP: Sydney 2000 A CommunityRun petition calling for a doctor featured in a same-sex marriage No Campaign ad to be deregistered has been removed for breaching the site's terms and conditions. The petition asked for a review of Dr Pansy Lai's medical registration after she appeared in a Coalition for Marriage advertisement calling for a no vote in the upcoming same-sex marriage survey. GetUp, who created the community petition platform, said it was removed after receiving dozens of complaints. "Following the review, the petition was found to breach CommunityRun's terms and conditions and was taken down on Monday morning," a GetUp spokesman said. Petitions listed on CommunityRun can be uploaded by anyone and are not run or endorsed by GetUp. A GetUp spokesman said while the organisation was opposed to a same-sex marriage survey, it condemned personal attacks against individuals on either side of the campaign. "GetUp does not support a petition targeting Dr Pansy Lai, which was uploaded over the weekend, nor did GetUp endorse or organise it," he said. AMA slams 'inappropriate' petition The petition was addressed to the Australian Medical Association, which has criticised it as being inappropriate and concerning. "Individuals should be able to express an opinion on a political matter, without being shouted down," AMA President, Dr Michael Gannon said. "Everyone's entitled to an opinion and to call for someone to have their livelihood taken away, which is effectively what medical deregistration would mean to a doctor, is utterly inappropriate." Mr Gannon said the Medical Board of Australia, which is the registrational authority for doctors, would dismiss this complaint very quickly. "Doctors, like other members of the community, are entitled to an opinion and that should be heard," Dr Gannon said. Dr Lai and the Coalition for Marriage have been contacted for comment. DONT HAVE AN OPINION DIFFERENT TO THE YES VOTER FFFS >:( >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Highlighted and enlarged your post. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:44pm tickleandrose wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:28pm:
they are certainly a strange man or woman to want to have sex with their own kind. this is not about love. normal real men do love other normal real men. I love my brothers if strange people want to hijack centuries old traditions to bend those traditions to suit their own strange kinks, they can't. the homos can invent their own traditions. we have offered a civil union certificate. they don't like that, invent your own |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:50pm:
Marriage between consenting adult humans, who aren't related. Where's the problem? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:47pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Incorrect. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:48pm tickleandrose - thank for debating this in a nature manner |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Aussie on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:51pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:48pm:
Yet, according to you, tickleandrose is not a normal person! |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
Greggy - if you knew what they did you'd see the problem. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
Repost ... waiting for a reply ! |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:58pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Why are we required to know what consenting adult humans do in the privacy of their own homes? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:03pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Some of them kiss & cuddle, and have anal, vaginal, and oral sex - just like heterosexuals. Again: where's the problem? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by tickleandrose on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:07pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
The traditions were made by humans, and therefore can be changed by humans. There is not a golden rule to say that just because something is tradition, that it cannot be changed. A civil union certificate will not do. And it does not have the same recognition in law as marriage currently. And for your information, those on the no camp are ALSO against a civil union certificate that is equivalent to marriage. So you better get your position right. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:09pm tickleandrose wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
No its tradition, so bring back slavery. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm
Meanwhile the SSM Nazis launch a vicious attack on a dissenter....
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36946222/online-petition-wants-dr-pansy-lai-from-sydney-deregistered/?cmp=ydn&utm_source=Marketing&utm_medium=Emarsys&utm_campaign=DailySnapshot&utm_content= A woman that appeared in the advertisement for the 'no' camp in the same-sex marriage debate is now at the centre of an online campaign to have her medical licence stripped. The online petition has just over 6,000 signatures and calls for a "review of the registration of Dr Pansy Lai". Dr Lai, a GP in northern Sydney, appeared as one of three mothers in the Marriage Coalition advertisement that first aired at the end of last month. She told The Australian she has been inundated with phone and social media threats since the ad was released and said she had reported one threat to police that she would be shot "this week". The online petition, backed by GetUp!, calls on the Australian Medical Association to deregister Dr Lai "for violation of its code of ethics and violation of the Declaration of Geneva by her participation in the recent 'no' campaign against marriage equality". "It is clear that Dr Pansy Lai has misused her privileged position as a medical practitioner in the harmful and hateful 'no' campaign, which is a clear violation of her oath to the Declaration," the petition reads. Coalition for Marriage spokeswoman Monica Doumit said after the threat to Dr Lai’s career from this petition, that it would now apply to any doctor who spoke against the 'Yes' case, The Australian reports. “In seeking to ruin the career of a doctor who dares to disagree with its agenda, the same-sex marriage lobby has shown, yet again, that it has no interest in freedom of speech,” Ms Doumit said. “The petition against Dr Lai is a threat not only to her, but to any others who might try to voice their opinion. The message is loud and clear: agree on same-sex marriage or else.” Dr Lai has been a campaigner against gay rights and activism for some time, taking the lead to secure 17,500 votes against the Safe Schools anti-bullying program, which she said last year discriminated against Chinese culture. Just one day after the 'no' ad was aired, the 'yes' camp aired their first commerical claiming the 'no' camp is "trying to mislead us". The ad features Dr Kerryn Phelps. It begins with the grandmother watching the "No" video before telling the camera "sadly some are trying to mislead us, like this ad does by saying there will be a negative impact" if Australia allows same-sex couples to get married. Dr Kerryn Phelps features in the "yes" commercial. Source: Supplied The online petition against Dr Lai concludes that "she has used her standing as a medical professional to directly cause harm to the LGBTIQ population, in direct opposition to her ethical obligation to be supporting the health and welfare of people". Dr Lai said she was speaking out against same-sex marriage as a parent. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:24pm
I think ban Phelps too.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:30pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Two questions for you, Booby: 1. What is it that lesbians do, that you don't like? 2. Do homosexual men have premarital sex? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:37pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
this is the way of the left. violence and threats |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm
Friends of mine were at the pro rally in Canberra on Saturday. Were threatened by some anti- campaigners. Its both sides.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:40pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
Anyone and anyone or will there be a list of variants? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:48pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
And you post one single think abstinence and I said that is pretty weird, giving the example of priests. Do you not understand english? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:08pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Anyone and everyone, as long as they are consenting adult humans, who aren't related. Where's the problem? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:10pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
Cherrypicking priests, where it is a condition of being a priest. This is voluntary. So walk the walk. What is weird with what we do in our bedroom. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:33pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
Or don't do in this case |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:08pm:
Will make for interesting weddings when the seriously fkked up weirdos start looking to get hitched. Do you Fecalphiliac take this Felcher to be your lawful wedded toilet receptical? :) :) :) Yep good times ahead |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:40pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:37pm:
Weirdos get married now. Every day. Moreover, attending the weddings is not compulsory. So, where's the problem? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:43pm Aussie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:44pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:33pm:
Christians think Gay Jesus and band of merry men abstained ... and created a religion out of it. Now you indirectly call Gay Jesus weird. Far right christians will burn you at the stake, if you're not to careful. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:51pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
As a devout atheist Im calling gay jezzus a non existent, made up delusion. Nice troll bro but a total fail ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
No problem, merely having a conversation, so keep your pantaloons on. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:06pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Not an atheist. Now you said you will list what is wrong with myself and my partner's sexual practices. Put up ... or admit you have been beaten to a pulp yet again. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:10pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Who isn't an atheist? Well since you only stated that you and it seems your partner are abstinent, then that would be it wouldn't it? You know Im not the person who start this line of inquiry, I was merely hoping to help with your confusion and you are even more confused that ever before. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:15pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:10pm:
So the whole thread is a beat up and there's nothing abnormal with same sex people. Thanks for proving sprint wrong. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:18pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:15pm:
Uuum oookay. But you didn't answer my question who isn't an atheist? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:05pm
The Queer (abnormal) community will be voting yes.
God help the next generation if this ludicrous proposal gets up, their are enough sick weirdos around as it is, normal marriage is what holds society together and should never be changed on the whim of a minority in a day and age where political correctness has gone crazy. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:03pm:
Greggy, just because you're an admitted sodomite doesn't mean that it's right - it's an abomination & used to be punished by death. I cannot give my approval of such depravities. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:34pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:24pm:
The vote has nothing to do with sodomy, Booby. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:37pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:05pm:
Really? Care to explain how? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:40pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:24pm:
The question is on marriage equality. Not sodomy. If it was on sodomy then there would be many current marriages you would have to break up if it got voted down. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:47pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
The vote is all about whether you give your approval & consent to homosexuals sodomising each other & spreading AIDS throughout society. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:48pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Take your childish nonsense elsewhere, Booby. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
AIDS Rate 50 Times Higher in Homosexual Men: Center for Disease Control By Patrick B. Craine https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/aids-rate-50-times-higher-in-homosexual-men-center-for-disease-control ATLANTA, Georgia, August 24, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population. Dr. Amy Lansky revealed this statistic during a plenary session at the 2009 HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta. The CDC had already revealed last year that approximately 53% of the estimated 56,300 new HIV cases in 2006 were in homosexual men, with the African American population being particularly affected. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dr Mengele on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:55pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
AIDS is doing a great job of wiping out fags and n!ggers. Karma...nature style! ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:57pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Marriage equality would reduce the number of partners of sodomising homosexuals. As it has done with heterosexual sodomites. If you are worried about the spread of HIV, then marriage equality is the way to reduce. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:58pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:54pm:
Off topic. Try to remain focused, Booby. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:57pm:
evidence of that claim , please? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:07pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Poor old Booby. He believes that: a) Lesbians don't exist; b) gay men don't have sex outside of marriage; and c) homosexuals have some sort of secret sexual moves that only they know about. Oh, Booby ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
Marriage encourages couples towards monogamy. Hard right christians should see this as something to support. And it's a bit rich asking for evidence when you wouldn't supply evidence when asked. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Feel free to label them Nazis any time you wish.... As for the media - when they come out with blatant lies such as Kerryn Phelps 'has six children with her partner Virginia' - when both of them have children from previous marriages to men, who get no mention at all as 'having children with Phelps or Virginia'... .. there are definitely a couple of wing-nuts loose in Propaganda Central... aka The Media... Phelps and Virginia may have possession of the marital hostages.... but they have NEVER 'had children together' and never can.... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm ____ wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
You are, of course, 100% correct. Why, then, are the so called Christians in here so opposed to it? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:17pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
;D Now that WOULD be the pot calling the kettle black. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm AIDS Rate 50 Times Higher in Homosexual Men: Center for Disease Control By Patrick B. Craine https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/aids-rate-50-times-higher-in-homosexual-men-center-for-disease-control ATLANTA, Georgia, August 24, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population. Dr. Amy Lansky revealed this statistic during a plenary session at the 2009 HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta. The CDC had already revealed last year that approximately 53% of the estimated 56,300 new HIV cases in 2006 were in homosexual men, with the African American population being particularly affected. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
How so? Where has Sprint threatened to kill someone who supports SSM or sent messages to some supporter threatening him/her or organised a campaign to destroy their livelihood? When people set out to intimidate someone of a differing view and who is open and public about it, and places their life and their livelihood under threat..... which then is the Nazi??? These fiends should be hunted down and given the full wrath of the appropriate laws...... using a carriage service to implement a hate campaign should cop five years.... as a start.... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:23pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
Irrelevant. This is about same sex marriage. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by ___ on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:25pm
HIV: NSW 'on track' to virtually eliminate transmission by 2020
After a rapid decline in new infections, New South Wales Health says it is on track to virtually eliminate HIV transmission by 2020. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-23/record-low-hiv-rates-in-nsw/8835380 2017 ... not 2009 Bobby ! |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:26pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
Sprint is the most intolerant, bigoted, racist, homophobic fascist in this forum ... by a long shot. He's the closest thing to a Nazi I've seen in quite some time. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:28pm
Grap has a differing interpretation of Nazis than most people, Greg.
For example, he thinks feminists and ssm campaigners are Nazis ... white supremacists who chant stuff about Jews, not so much. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:31pm
Grim Reaper [1987]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U219eUIZ7Qo |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
At least he's not obsessed with male to male anal sex, like our little Booby is. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Neferti on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
UNLESS you are a male (or female) homosexual, you have NO IDEA what the "do". I don't know and I don't care .... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Nazis is as Nazis does, as they say down in Green Bow - but it takes a mature mind to actually see that.... Where did the 'white supremacists' in Charlottesville - the Nazi-label de jour - chant about Jews? You are exaggerating and telling untruths again, Mothra... and Greg... The crux of the matter is this:- Should anyone be allowed/entitled to label someone a NAZI for holding a different view - or should NAZIs be judged on their behaviour? In this question you are both in failure mode... I'd be prepared to say some of the threatening messages this doctor received called her a Nazi.... for rejecting SSM... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Be careful Greggy - watch that video below - good advice for people like you. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:44pm
Grim Reaper [1987]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U219eUIZ7Qo |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm Neferti wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm:
As far as I know, homosexuals do the exact same things that we do in the bedroom. They (i.e. some of them, at various times) kiss, cuddle, mutually masturbate, have vaginal, anal, and oral sex, as well as indulging in water sports, B&D and S&M. I can't think of anything they might do that we heterosexuals don't do as well. Not a single thing. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:47pm Neferti wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm:
Do you think about what other heterosexuals do in the privacy of their own bedrooms? Do you think you can safely speak for what "they" do? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm:
There is nothing. Nada. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:50pm mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:48pm:
That's what I thought. But Booby positively insists that they have these secret moves, that only they know about. How did he find out about these exotic acts, and why won't he share them with us? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:54pm
We could ask Nefertiti? But she doesn't want to think about it. Too icky i suppose. Very sensible of her.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:57pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-iCKPynQGU
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:58pm Neferti wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm:
There are many, many straight couples in the world (yes Germany, I'm looking at you) that dress up in adult nappies and then wee and poo on each other in order to get sexually aroused. Do homosexuals do that too? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:58pm jump to 3:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:03pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:58pm:
"Haven't you got anything smaller?" Boom boom! Such a brilliant comedian. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Neferti on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:58pm:
YOU obviously know a lot about what "other people" do which means that you are a PERVERT. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:27pm Neferti wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:14pm:
Yep. I've spent a lot of time in Germany. Now, do homosexuals do that sort of thing too? Or, do they have some other secret acts that we don't know about? Booby won't tell us - will you? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:33pm
Is gweggy coming out of the closet.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:36pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
I'm sitting on the tall boy. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm
What consenting adults do with each other is their business and no one else's....The question is should gay people be allowed to marry each other....However some people just do not like homosexuals and will use any excuse to show their disdain....Completely predictable and expected I might add....I have friends who will never vote for marriage equality and nothing will change their mind because they just hate gay people!!!
::) ::) ::) Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965), television broadcast, December 31, 1955 |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
Is that a yes. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:26pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
I couldn't care less if you think I'm gay, straight, tranny, or whatever. Why are such things so important to you? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
So you are gay straight and tranny, I think you fall into one of those 250 genders somewhere, or maybe its a new one. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:31pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
I'm as straight as they come, but if you want to imagine me as a gay man, that's fine by me (Booby does it all the time). I'm comfortable with my sexuality, and who I am. You obviously aren't. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:32pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:29pm:
Okay, sure. I'm anything you want me to be. Why is this important? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Have another dwink gweg, your running out of steam. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:45pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:43pm:
Why? Do you think that will make you more attractive to me? Why are you sexually harassing me? I'm into women. Perhaps Booby would be a more appropriate target for your affections. I'm flattered, but just not interested. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:51pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
I have a gay friend who is voting 'No'. He's Catholic. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
Perhaps he wants the age limit reduced before he is interested??? :-? :-? :-? (Sorry Greg) :-[ :-[ :-[ |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Frank on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
You are bent. And you haven't stated your case for ssm. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:00pm Frank wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
I have no case. I'm just not going to get in the way of people who want to get married. Why would I? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by cods on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:58pm:
oh ye gods its that what you do......well I guess we had to find out some day...you do like making announcements about what you do with poo dont you? it must be a lefty thing.. :o :o |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Leftwinger on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:55pm cods wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:51pm:
Here she is , sneaking in in the dead of night |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:29pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Incorrect. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:05am Bam wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Please explain? Anyone else sick of hearing bald statements of a contrary nature totally unsupported by even an argument? It seems all the Yes vote have to say to every argument is - that's not so....... That's what is defined as a 'strandard' in the New Grappler Dictionary..... a standard or view floating on nothing of substance, but rather being left high and dry on a (often self-created) reef, or washed up on the shore like a dead Muslim trying to get to Europe... Please Explain?? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by juliar on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:11am
NO is all the GO
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:38am
I'm amazed at how many self-proclaimed intelligent and so-called educated people here can come up with nothing more than -
"That's not so.... marriage wasn't always between a man and a woman (then Who Tbugger was it between?)" ... "you're out of touch".. "You're homophobic"..... "NO!" It's like arguing with children... but when those children start threatening a dissenting person's life and livelihood.. I draw the line. Who would give a child a loaded gun? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:26am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Marriage has not always been between male and female. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 7:50am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:26am:
What a great explanation. You are the true communicator of this site. ;D ;D ;D ;D Trolling much? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:22am BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 7:50am:
Indeed. Succinct, to the point and factual. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:22am:
Proof? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:45am Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:33am:
You can't be serious. "The claim: Tony Abbott says marriage, or marriage-like relationships, have always been between a man and a woman "The verdict: A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'. Tony Abbott incorrect on the history of marriage "Roman Emperor Nero was married to not one man, but two. "His nuptials were recorded and discussed at the time between subjects - friendly and hostile. "The detail is recorded in the 1999 book Roman Homosexuality (updated in 2012) by Craig Williams, a classics professor of Brooklyn College, New York. "The book includes a chapter on marriage between men, practiced throughout the empire, all the way to the top." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:54am Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:33am:
Some more for you. Gay 'marriage' in medieval Europe "Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean. "Apart from the couples' gender, these events were almost indistinguishable from other marriages of the era. "Twelfth-century liturgies for same-sex unions — also known as "spiritual brotherhoods" — included the recital of marriage prayers, the joining of hands at the altar, and a ceremonial kiss." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:56am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:22am:
I could be factual, but no-one can tell. It seem to be missing any link valid evidence, context, or even a basic explanation, for your reply to be considered as anything other than a trite remark. I though I would help you out with not using sarcasm this time as we all know you struggle with the concept. :) :) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:01am BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:56am:
You should have looked at the two posts above yours. "Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean." "A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'." Too easy ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:08am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:01am:
If it was "too easy" why the fkk didn't you do it in the first instance ? Personally I couldn't care less I hope those sick little fkkers infest every church in that land turning churches into mini madi gras'. Anything that leads to the destruction of religion and its institutions, I am all for, as they say, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' albeit temporarily. Still won't be voting yes, but. :) :) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:10am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:01am:
And what, precisely were these 'male bonding ceremonies'? Oaths of loyalty and fealty by knights etc? Pledges to religious insititutions? Marriage and "other solemnised relationships"? Thanks for coming....... and proving the point that marriage is not other than man and woman.. "spiritual brotherhoods" - what part of "spiritual" do you NOT understand? Talk about stretching for anything that might remotely support 'gay marriage' in the past, or anything that might even suggest that marriage was not always between a man and a woman... ;D ::) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:17am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:10am:
Jesus, I'm owning you guys this morning. "As of 1 September 2017, same-sex marriage is legally recognized (nationwide or in some parts) in the following countries: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay." Too easy ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:19am BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:08am:
I quite honestly did NOT believe that there were people out there who didn't know that marriage has NOT always been between a man and a woman. Sometimes the level of ignorance I encounter in this forum is a little worrying. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by cods on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:22am
its cool to see you have done your homework on gay marriage and sex between males....a bit of an authority by now I am sure.. ;) ;)
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/television/the-gay-couple-who-oppose-samesex-marriage/news-story/adda8dc79124def7a400b46101ddf448 |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:25am cods wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:22am:
I always do my homework. cods wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:22am:
No. Just marriage. Why can't you people stay on topic? This is about SSM, not sex, adoption, or children, etc. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:34am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:25am:
Not at all - those are just collateral damage. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:41am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:19am:
You seriously flit between UNPROVEN assertions in ancient history and modern day nations that have legitimised SSM, and suggest that somehow means that any who assert that marriage has always been between a man and a woman (until those nations legitimised it and frankly - who cares - it's their nation - NOT OURS) , are dumb? You haven't even set about responding to the clarifications I inserted on those Ancient History things put forward as justifications for SSM - none of which hold water any more than legitimised SSM in Siberia has any meaning here. A hallmark of the 'YES' adherents is their utter inability to support their views and their 'historical precedents'.... I'll say it again - who cares about ancient history, and who cares what other nations have done IN RECENT TIMES - none of those impact on the reality that marriage has always been between man and woman, and any new wrinkles on that are meaningless in the context of discussing this reality. " Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay." That's their problem. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:43am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:34am:
Millions of people have had childless marriages. Moreover, millions of children have been born out of wedlock. The discussion is SSM: not anal sex, not children, not adoption, not wheelbarrows, not dogs. SSM. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:44am
Let's re-visit, shall we - and this time try for an answer?
"And what, precisely were these 'male bonding ceremonies'? Oaths of loyalty and fealty by knights etc? Pledges to religious insititutions? Marriage and "other solemnised relationships"? Thanks for coming....... and proving the point that marriage is not other than man and woman.. "spiritual brotherhoods" - what part of "spiritual" do you NOT understand?" Was this the kind of nonsense used in all those listed nations to alter the definition of marriage? How gullible some legislatures are.... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:45am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:41am:
Ignorant, not dumb. And, the facts remain: - marriage, historically, has not always been between a man and a woman, and - marriage, currently, is not just between a man and a woman. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:49am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:43am:
Childless marriages are irrelevant - just a fact of nature, as are children born out of wedlock - no relevance. Such relationships are still between man and woman and have no bearing on gay adoption etc. 'marriage' implies rights other than simply being married - as cods said - it involves some 'right' to adopt and raise children, which, in many cases of 'born again lesbians' such as La Phelps who have walked out of Marriage and still taken with them the title of 'primary caregiver' - means that the fathers of those children are pushed aside like rubbish..... Haven't seen one mention of the input of Phelps' children's father into their upbringing, values and so forth..... he is irrelevant and she 'has children with her partner Virginia' - a demonstrable lie since two women cannot 'have' children..... those children are being held by proxy in a lesbian relationship... not as some kind of natural order of things. You reckon that is a good outcome for all concerned? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:55am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:19am:
I could not care less about the homo marriage if or when it happens, you're just too stupid to read what I write and you try to misrepresent my posts is all. I can't believe someone like you, a known liar still believes you can write anything without submitting your proof. See when your dog sh1ts on your carpet, you always kick it out of the house whenever it gets down on its haunches. You are a liar, you have to prove everything you say. Yes just you. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:57am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:45am:
Doesn't matter what word you use - you are attacking the messenger... your continued assertions as above do not support your strandard.... You have produced no evidence that marriage was not always between man and woman, and in those nations you cite, the concept is 'Same Sex Marriage and not Marriage... same as the argument here. At this time, it is readily available to SS 'partners' to enter into a contractual arrangement that will satisfy their needs - and I have yet to see someone show me where SS 'couples' do not receive social security etc benefits same as everyone else does in a relationship. Every time I ask for proof or clarification, you all run and hide in mythical historical assertions without foundation or refer to other nations that have already been lead down this garden path of altering the meaning of Marriage ..... For that matter - two unemployed gays would be better off NOT being in a formal 'marriage'. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:01am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:57am:
Incorrect, scroll back. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:10am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:01am:
There is no evidence to prove that marriage was not always between man and woman - only assertions of historical issues that have been inferred to mean 'gay', and references to far off countries who changed the rules for themselves. We have no need to follow what other nations do..... and none of the historical antecedents has been shown to mean that gay marriage was practiced. Inference is not reality.... You get an A for effort...... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:17am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:10am:
Continue to live in denial, if that's what makes you happy. However, I can assure you that SSM is legal in many countries right now. Moreover, it will be legalised in this country too and it won't hurt you one little bit. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:17am:
There you go again - attack the messenger, refuse to answer the questions raised, and continue to refer to other nations and to ideology. What other nations do is of no concern here and is not a 'treaty' or anything of the kind by which we should abide... whether SSM is legal or otherwise in other countries at this time in no way alters the fact that it was always a man and woman thing, and remains so to this day. I doubt that anyone seriously thinks that SSM is the same in any way, and not matter how long and hard it is pushed, the majority will always see it as separate. Let the People Decide in a binding plebiscite... Chicken?? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:09pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
I'm not attacking anyone - I'm merely presenting the facts. The evidence (which I've provided) suggests that marriages have not always been just between male and female. And, it's an indisputable fact that marriage today is not restricted to heterosexuals - many countries have legalised SSM. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
'living in denial', 'ignorant'..... anyone who would label me 'ignorant' needs a head examination... Now stop being a Nazi and attacking anyone with an opposing view.... I've refuted the 'evidence', which does not clearly indicate any such thing as SSM historically - each thing listed is covered in other areas, such as oaths etc, which had a totally different meaning back then. Following other countries in their mistakes slavishly is what brought us so much of the feminist disaster.... Let The People Decide!! Only a coward would seek another way, such as the Labor party's position on this..... they have a 'mandate', don't 'cha know, just like Wee Johnnie did, but we all know how the major worn-out parties love to latch on to any opportunity handed out by their 'opponents' for more power to themselves when they take the reins in Parliament......... once any idea that hands control to government of any issue is in, it is never out ...... well - I happen to disagree on mandate and always have..... Government are responsible to the people who elected them - they are not THE power in the land.... and their recent history here has shown more than adequate reason to reject their taking control of this issue. Power To The People... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:21pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:17pm:
'living in denial', 'ignorant'..... anyone who would label me 'ignorant' needs a head examination... Now stop being a Nazi and attacking anyone with an opposing view.... I've refuted the 'evidence', which does not clearly indicate any such thing as SSM historically - each thing listed is covered in other areas, such as oaths etc, which had a totally different meaning back then. Following other countries in their mistakes slavishly is what brought us so much of the feminist disaster.... Let The People Decide!! Only a coward would seek another way, such as the Labor party's position on this..... they have a 'mandate', don't 'cha know, just like Wee Johnnie did, but we all know how the major worn-out parties love to latch on to any opportunity handed out by their 'opponents' for more power to themselves when they take the reins in Parliament......... once any idea that hands control to government of any issue is in, it is never out ...... well - I happen to disagree on mandate and always have..... Government are responsible to the people who elected them - they are not THE power in the land.... and their recent history here has shown more than adequate reason to reject their taking control of this issue. Power To The People... ADDS:- Whether or not SSM comes in here should be up to the people - not some bunch of elitists who know better than we do what is best for us...... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:48pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Hundreds of pieces of legislation are amended every year by our politicians (because that's exactly what they're paid to do). Why won't you let them do their job now? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:51pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
"A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'." You're living in denial. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Correct ... on all three counts. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:08pm
Just looking, is it correct to say we've only had three plebiscites in Australia?
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:17am:
SSM is legal in 23 countries. That means its not legal in 172 countries. Just sayin'. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
So between a muslim and a goat? Your reputation as a filthy liar isn't working out so well any more, is it? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:59pm
The high courts are deciding as to weather we, the people are allowed to decide on the future of society, I don't trust them, this is a critical decision and they had better do the right thing.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:06pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
Look on the other hand, if they allow this through, they should then mandate plebiscites for every decision the government takes. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:10pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Appeal to tradition is fallacious, but since you asked for details, here are a few links: Same-Sex Unions throughout Time: A History of Gay Marriage The History of the Legalization of Same-Sex Marriage The History of Same Sex Marriage |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Aussie on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:12pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
Or......what will you do (leaving aside the obvious question about the right thing being of course what you want it to decide?) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:19pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
A goat isn't a consenting, adult human. This has nothing to do with animals, or children, or wheelbarrows. "Roman Emperor Nero was married to not one man, but two. His nuptials were recorded and discussed at the time between subjects - friendly and hostile. "The detail is recorded in the 1999 book Roman Homosexuality (updated in 2012) by Craig Williams, a classics professor of Brooklyn College, New York. "The book includes a chapter on marriage between men, practiced throughout the empire, all the way to the top." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:20pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
This is the future of society not economics or foreign policy stuff, society shapes the future and society needs to ensure the future is not warped, hence the reason we have come to this point, most of us want a say. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:22pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Oh Jesus, another hysterical schoolgirl ::) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by bogarde73 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:47pm
How do you know when someone's normal?
What is normal? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:49pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
It's a good question. And why is it important? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Aussie on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:53pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
The answer is simple. Vote 'No,' you are normal. Normal is to vote 'No.' |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by juliar on Sep 5th, 2017 at 5:58pm
There are two important reasons to vote NO in the SSM plebiscite if it proceeds, both concern ‘dishonesty’ on the part of the Canberra political class.
Firstly, Bill Shorten, Penny Wong, Tanya Plibersek and Richard Di Natali attempted to shut down free speech on this issue when they launched their SSM campaign by adopting a ‘blatantly dishonest’ lexicon of ‘politically correct’ language to force a change to the ‘institution of marriage’ on a majority heterosexual community on behalf of what is a minor group of individuals. They shot free speech in the foot by vilifying anyone who disagreed with their proposal – calling those who disagreed ‘bigots’ and ‘homophobes’. This is not a strategy designed to win a cause, it’s a strategy that has alienated thousands of married heterosexual couples and many religious groups. Secondly Liberals Warren Entsch, Tim Wilson, Jason Wood, John Alexander, Trent Zimmerman, Trevor Evans and senator Dean Smith attempted to torpedo the plebiscite in the House because they are against a people’s vote; clearly the 7 ‘self-absorbed’ rainbow warriors think that a tenth order issue like SSM is more important than fixing a budget mired in debt; overhauling a national broadcaster that acts as the front office for Labor and the Greens, mending a Third World communication system; overhauling an education system going backwards; dealing with energy prices going through the roof; ensuring that young families are not priced out of the housing market; fixing infrastructure that is slowing productivity; revamping a Federal system of government that is seriously ‘broken’ and being undermined by rent seeking Premiers like Jay Wetherill who want their inefficiently run economies bailed out by taxpayers in other states. Furthermore the 7 marriage rebels are clearly in lock step with the Labor/Greens SSM PC campaign even though they were voted into power on the promise they upheld government policy to hold a plebiscite – the dishonesty and ‘self-interest’ of the 7 marriage rebels is telling. Archbishop Glenn Davies hit the nail on the head weeks ago when he said the current Canberra political class has so tainted the SSM debate that an objective discussion is beyond the capabilities of the parliament. Voters need to register their disapproval of the Labor/Greens PC orchestrated SSM campaign by voting ‘no’ in the plebiscite – this PC tactic is only one of several attempts to shut down free speech on other issues. Also, their disapproval of the 7 Liberals who tried to deny the people a vote. And voters in the electorates of the 7 should be calling for their dis-endorsement for the upcoming election! Labor gave everyone a free vote in 2012 - and 40 of their MPs crossed the floor to vote against SSM. 17 of those MPs are still in parliament such as Husic, Burke and Fitzgibbon. Have they all changed their minds? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:03pm:
We need more people like Sir Les here. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:25pm AIDS Rate 50 Times Higher in Homosexual Men: Center for Disease Control By Patrick B. Craine https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/aids-rate-50-times-higher-in-homosexual-men-center-for-disease-control ATLANTA, Georgia, August 24, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An official with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced the CDC's estimate Monday that in the United States AIDS is fifty times more prevalent among men who have sex with men ('MSM') than the rest of the population. Dr. Amy Lansky revealed this statistic during a plenary session at the 2009 HIV Prevention Conference in Atlanta. The CDC had already revealed last year that approximately 53% of the estimated 56,300 new HIV cases in 2006 were in homosexual men, with the African American population being particularly affected. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:27pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
Off topic. " ... examples of formal religious ceremonies in which two men who love each other are solemnly wedded together for life can be found across Europe, throughout classical antiquity and until the end of the middle ages." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 7:34pm
Ancient history......been out of vogue for nearly two millennia ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dDpwZegm60 |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 5th, 2017 at 7:53pm Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
Does anyone want to be normal ???? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Neferti on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:00pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 7:53pm:
What is normal? . male + female . male + male . female + female . dog + male . sheep + male . child + male . many females + male and so forth ..... ALL those people consider themselves normal. Who are you to judge? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by JaSinner on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:06pm
Free Charles Manson and Martin Bryant.
They are just mis-understood, wanted respect and equality. ;) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by juliar on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:31pm
You really have to wonder why the Lefties are so keen on this sick SSM rubbish.
Surely it is not just the effect a FULL MOON always has on the Lefties. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:43pm Neferti wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
most people are hetrosexual. That is normal. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:00pm juliar wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
It's another sign of the End Times. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:00pm
Going on this forum the poofs are in for a rude awakening, and its not before time.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:06pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
AIDS Rate 50 Times Higher in Homosexual Men: Center for Disease Control |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by jeez on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:21pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
This is not something that is addressed, babies are born with aids as a direct result of aids spreading homosexuals and bisexuals. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:22pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
and junkies. All depraved practices - this must be the End Times. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:05pm Johnnie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
You do realise that doesnt really happen right |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:06pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:05pm:
So how does it happen? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:11pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
The vast majority is heterosexual contact to mum then vertical treansmission. E.g look sat africa |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:50pm
But where does it start? How do all those men get AIDS and then pass it on? I've read that it's rife in Africa, but why - unless we accept that it is a CIA plot to exterminate Africans as some think.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by bogarde73 on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:57am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:43pm:
Sprint, I would say that's the majority but that's a different thing from normal. If you say homosexuals are not normal then you are saying they are abnormal, not right in the head, something wrong with them. It's a short step from that to saying they should be dealt with. And I don't think you believe that. I'm talking about consenting adults here of course. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:31am Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
Irrelevant. The thread is about SSM. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:45am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:50pm:
Usually husbands sleep with prostitutes and then sleep with their wives with no protection. My point essentially is that HIV transmission is a far more complex picture than to say look its gays that did it. Also can we get away from using the term AIDS in this instance, its scientifically and medically lazy. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:01am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:45am:
Marriage promotes monogamy, which results in a reduction in the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Sir Booby is helping the 'Yes' vote. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by capitosinora on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:25am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:01am:
Homosexuals and Lesbians are dangerous perverts. Forbidden in the west Russian documentary about Sodom and Gomorrah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m8-_QlwYV8 |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by capitosinora on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:48am
Aussie same sex married couple in Mecca.
Aussie same sex married couple in Auburn. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:01am:
gay Greggy is promoting sodomites. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:59pm Neferti wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
The "survey" is about same sex marriage. Everything else you have listed is irrelevant. The slippery slope fallacy isn't a convincing argument. Try again. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:12pm
The situation as it stands allows for tolerance of homosexuality whilst acknowledging it is an inferior lifestyle choice. Why change an ideal situation?
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:47pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
You're obviously trolling. No sensible human being would wish to oppress other people simply for being different. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:49am Bam wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
Tell that to the victims of feminism..... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:51am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:57am:
Got it in one - they're abnormal and should just keep to themselves..... instead of inflicting their 'issues' on everyone else. Live and let live..... we're just fighting for our raghts... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:31am:
SSM advocates as a group don't have a % of AIDS etc? Are they magically exempt? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:57am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:45am:
But where does it begin? Just poking a woman won't give you AIDS... I've done that many times and gladly so... where did it start? https://books.google.com.au/books?hl=en&lr=&id=dTaMBrPBK6EC&oi=fnd&pg=PR5&dq=origins+of+AIDS&ots=idJvEqMFir&sig=pcDis5WmWVMUzSoqwuU4CqK_67Y#v=onepage&q=origins%20of%20AIDS&f=false Someone shagged a monkey?? Gonorrhea is a disease of camels.... but let's not talk about that in case the thought police hear us... if they do we'll be a goner 'ere...... |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2017 at 1:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:01am:
So all married people are monogamous? Even when not being monogamous incurs the risk of cheating within a high risk group? The reality is that within twelve months, the 'glow' has faded and human beings, as a group, tend to want to move on. Remember that old thing? If you put a dollar in a jar for every time you shagged in the first year of marriage and then took a dollar out for every time thereafter - you would never empty the jar. Human sexuality is engineered to spread the genes..... how does that gel with monogamy in the modern climate of take-away and throw-away marriages? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Raven on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:54am
This "survey" is flawed.
A NO vote is binding. A YES vote is not. What the f.uck is the point? We are asked to "vote" on legislation we haven't even seen. Why? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am Bam wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
Oppress! :o :o :o |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by capitosinora on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:46am
Don't allow adoption of children.
At least don't give innocent children to Gay and lesbian pervert paedophiles. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:49am capitosinora wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:46am:
Off topic. This is about SSM. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:49am Raven wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Our politicians don't know how to do their jobs. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Neferti on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:16am Quote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/redefining-marriage-will-weaken-a-cornerstone-institution-of-our-culture-says-mp-andrew-hastie/news-story/36f020e7fe0975fb9193ac956705d160 |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:20am
We have legislative changes with flow on effects every day. This is not an anti argument.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bam on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:42am Raven wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:54am:
It is a delaying tactic foisted onto Turnbull by the conservatives. That is why a "yes" vote isn't binding: delay, delay, delay. I am not opposed in principle to giving the public a say on legislation, by the way, but only if we get a say on many other issues. Should we privatise a particular asset? Should we dismantle privatisation? Should we raise the pension age? Should politicians' entitlements be put more into line with the employment conditions that workers receive? Should the government maintain an artificial scarcity of jobs or should it pursue full employment? Should the dole be increased? Should we offer more benefits for veterans? Should we have a treaty with Indigenous Australians? Should we become a republic? So many issues could be decided by plebiscites, but in 117 years there have only been three. Two of them involved conscription in the Great War and these both failed. The other was a multiple choice National Song plebiscite in 1977, which chose Advance Australia Fair as the national anthem (ahead of Waltzing Matilda, God Save the Queen and Song of Australia), and this wasn't fully implemented until 1984. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:47am
Tunbull is trying to be all things to all people and failing miserably....No one knows what lord waffle stands for....He says one thing and then does another to satisfy those he does not agree with but keep him in power???
>:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Raven on Sep 8th, 2017 at 1:35am
To quote former Judge Michael Kirby
"Other changes in Australia has not been made by postal ballot or plebiscite. It wasn't done in the case the advancement of the legal rights, equal rights of the Aboriginal people, it wasn't done in respect of women's advancement of legal rights, nor in the demolition of 'White Australia'," Essentially this plebiscite is disrespecting our Parliament. The Parliament has said it does not want a plebiscite and yet here we are. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:13am Raven wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 1:35am:
Well admittedly this isn't even a plebiscite. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Yadda on Sep 9th, 2017 at 10:14am Below, an example, of how the laws of a nation can be 'specially' construed and 'specially' interpreted, in order to afford special rights, AND IN ORDER TO AFFORD SPECIAL AND 'UNUSUAL' PROTECTIONS, IN LAW, TO A VOCAL 'SPECIAL INTEREST' GROUP. I hope that you can see, how if same sex marriage is legalised in Australia, it is very probable, that a special interpretation [in our courts] of our existing discrimination laws will be advocated for, in order, to protect the 'feelings' AND THESE NEW AND ASSERTED RIGHTS of those persons who promote that lifestyle, whenever, in public places, they encounter people who hold differing views to themselves. AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE INTERPRETATION OF EXISTING LAWS RELATING TO 'GIVING OFFENCE TO OTHERS'... CAN BE SKEWERED, IN ORDER TO BE USED TO PROTECT THE 'SENSITIVITIES' OF PERSONS BELONGING TO 'SPECIAL INTEREST' GROUPS. --------- > Quote:
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2017 at 10:21am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:49am:
That would be all of us and especially the feminists themselves. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 10:22am Help me out here, Sir Booby - who does this remind you of? "The research may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes, the researchers note. "People in denial about their own sexual orientation, perhaps a denial fostered by authoritarian and homophobic parents, may feel a threat from other gay and lesbian individuals. "Lashing out may ultimately be an indicator of the person's own internal conflict with sexual orientation." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2017 at 10:25am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 12:57am:
Just poking a woman won't give you AIDS. if she has AIDS actually it can ? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 9th, 2017 at 11:58am
The bigots and religious people are worried that giving gay people marriage rights will restrict their right to discriminate and somehow give the impression homosexuals are equal or deserving under the laws of our Country....Why are one persons rights more important than anyone else's in the eyes of the law???
:-? :-? :-? Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by BigOl64 on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:21pm philperth2010 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 11:58am:
A tolerant socialist is one hell of an oxymoron, with the emphasis on more-on. There is no such tolerance from the left, there is only derision and hatred. What goes around come around. :) :) ![]() |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:38pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 10:25am:
Yeee-usssh - but that's a special circumstance... where did it all begin? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by capitosinora on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:49am:
You are wrong all poofs are notorious paedophiles. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Dnarever on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:49pm
I have read the posts of many of the people here who seem to claim to be normal but based on the evidence I have to disagree.
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Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:36pm capitosinora wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Off topic. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by philperth2010 on Sep 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
Bullshit....Your own post shows you have no tolerance for opinions you disagree with....You childish insults say more about you than those you abuse!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] He who strikes the first blow admits he's lost the argument. Chinese Proverb |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:04pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:38pm:
I've read all sorts of ignorant bullshit on this forum but i think we have a new winner. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:04pm:
Astounding ignorance, no argument from me on that. However, I remember someone in this forum stating that two men who are NOT HIV positive could "catch AIDS" if they had anal sex with each other. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm:
You're kidding?! |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:14pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
Nope. They seriously believed (probably still do) that the act of placing a penis in a rectum could create AIDS. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:17pm
I honestly wonder how people so utterly clueless function.
For a start, you cannot "catch" AIDS at all. I would be embarrassed to venture an opinion on a topic i was evidently so oblivious about. I can only hope that they don't have children. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:17pm:
As do I. I read what people like Valkie, The Mechanic, Booby, BigHole, Frank, et al. right in here, and wonder how they manage to get through the day. How do they get jobs? How do they fill in tax returns? How do they do banking, or shopping, etc. So very, very clueless. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by mothra on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
Not to mention they are usually so damn angry. I wonder if that is because they are in a perpetual state of confusion as a result of being challenged by everyday functioning? |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:39pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Yeah, the anger is amazing, and I quite like your theory as to why anger consumes their every waking hour. In fact, the more I think about it, I think you might have hit the nail right on the head. |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by John Smith on Sep 9th, 2017 at 6:00pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:17pm:
they rely on Murdoch, fox and breibart to tell them what to think |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Frank on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:39pm:
Cybil called a friend and now they are talking to each other She 'thinks' - good one!!! ;D |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:17pm Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
"Those participants who reported their heterosexuality despite having hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely to show hostility toward gay individuals, including self-reported anti-gay attitudes, endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination such as supporting harsher punishments for homosexuals." |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by Valkie on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:32pm mothra wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Amazing You probably "think" that was funny. Or you "think" that you have a point. Sadly my dear, its you that has difficulty functioning in a normal world. What is your IQ. I can tell you mine is pretty good. I am an engineer, with degrees and diplomas in management, engineering and fluid dynamics. I am employed to go into companes and get them functioning at a much higher level. Ever heard of a troubleshooter? Ever been head hunted, in your life? You may "think" but inreality you quite simply "dont have a clue". Try living in the real world, its fun. Oh and as for LGBHTREDFGYREFGHYRDVHHUJ people. Im not angry about them. I simply feel very very sad that their mental illness is not being addressed. With help, they might just be able to FUNCTION in the normal world. Put that in your pipe and smoke it luvvie |
Title: Re: Normal People should vote NO Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:35pm Valkie wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
"Those participants who reported their heterosexuality despite having hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely to show hostility toward gay individuals, including self-reported anti-gay attitudes, endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination such as supporting harsher punishments for homosexuals." |
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