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Holy crackers, and this lot aren't even Muslims.

'The trouble started when Kasish's new husband wanted her to take the blame for his driving offence, to save his demerit points. When she refused, he hit her for the first time.

"He hit me, he scold me, he pull my hair," she said.

"He said: 'Why are you not giving to me? I am your husband, you have to give to me. All [the] people are doing it'."

When the driving offence took place, Kasish wasn't even in Australia. She was a newlywed in India's capital, Delhi, planning to move to Melbourne to be with her husband.


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The enriching benefits of a multiracial society is unfolding before our eyes as we look at America.

It is being torn about by race resentment and identity rancour.

And here in Australia and in Europe politicians are hell=bent to create the same multiracial, fractious, fear-and loathing hell.

Come on, multicultural people, defend the burqa. Go on.

Frank wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:23pm:

Come on, multicultural people, defend the burqa. Go on.

Actually, old chap, I like Danish. How about you?

You haven't said.

Karnal wrote on Aug 24^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 9:23pm: Come on, multicultural people, defend the burqa. Go on. Actually, old chap, I like Danish. How about you? You haven't said.

You stupid bastard. Is that all you have - clownish idiocy?

Yes.

Frank wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

The enriching benefits of a multiracial society is unfolding before our eyes as we look at America. It is being torn about by race resentment and identity rancour. And here in Australia and in Europe politicians are hell=bent to create the same multiracial, fractious, fear-and loathing hell.

Yes, dear boy, but you did come here. You wanted to enrich us, no?

Thank heavens our poor American cousins are being enriched by all those sieg heiling chaps with Swastikas tattooed on their necks.

And I do think, in your own little way, you'll enrich us too, don't  you?

Stupid Pakistani bastard.

Karnal wrote on Aug 26^th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2017 at 7:32pm: The enriching benefits of a multiracial society is unfolding before our eyes as we look at America. It is being torn about by race resentment and identity rancour. And here in Australia and in Europe politicians are hell=bent to create the same multiracial, fractious, fear-and loathing hell. Yes, dear boy, but you did come here. You wanted to enrich us, no? Thank heavens our poor American cousins are being enriched by all those sieg heiling chaps with Swastikas tattooed on their necks. And I do think, in your own little way, you'll enrich us too, don't  you? Stupid Pakistani bastard.

You are a Paki. Why did YOU come here? Why not stay in Paki hellholeistan?  All Koranic over there, you can fit in with your idiocy.

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 8:03pm: Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2017 at 7:32pm: The enriching benefits of a multiracial society is unfolding before our eyes as we look at America. It is being torn about by race resentment and identity rancour. And here in Australia and in Europe politicians are hell=bent to create the same multiracial, fractious, fear-and loathing hell. Yes, dear boy, but you did come here. You wanted to enrich us, no? Thank heavens our poor American cousins are being enriched by all those sieg heiling chaps with Swastikas tattooed on their necks. And I do think, in your own little way, you'll enrich us too, don't  you? Stupid Pakistani bastard. You are a Paki. Why did YOU come here? Why not stay in Paki hellholeistan?  All Koranic over there, you can fit in with your idiocy.

Alas, old boy, I grew here. The only Pakistani thing about moi is your charming porkie about Pakis.

But I'm curious. If you're so into cultural enrichment, why didn't you move to Pakistan?

Don't tell me you came to Australia to better yourself.

Oh, old boy, how positively common. What a tedious little upstart you must be.

Karnal wrote on Aug 26^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Karnal wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 8:03pm: Frank wrote on Aug 20th, 2017 at 7:32pm: The enriching benefits of a multiracial society is unfolding before our eyes as we look at America. It is being torn about by race resentment and identity rancour. And here in Australia and in Europe politicians are hell=bent to create the same multiracial, fractious, fear-and loathing hell. Yes, dear boy, but you did come here. You wanted to enrich us, no? Thank heavens our poor American cousins are being enriched by all those sieg heiling chaps with Swastikas tattooed on their necks. And I do think, in your own little way, you'll enrich us too, don't  you? Stupid Pakistani bastard. You are a Paki. Why did YOU come here? Why not stay in Paki hellholeistan?  All Koranic over there, you can fit in with your idiocy. Alas, old boy, I grew here. The only Pakistani thing about moi is your charming porkie about Pakis. But I'm curious. If you're so into cultural enrichment, why didn't you move to Pakistan? Don't tell me you came to Australia to better yourself. Oh, old boy, how positively common. What a tedious little upstart you must be.

Stupid paki bastard.

The prestigious University of Balogney...

Don't you just love multiculturalism?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Experts: The more we embrace diversity the more everything is the same.

Frank wrote on Sep 9^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

Experts: The more we embrace diversity the more everything is the same.

I agree, old boy. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

One doesn't embrace diversity, one accepts it as the natural state of humanity. Where there was id, there shall ego be. Civilization, you see, has it's discontents.

One of these is restraining one's urge to rape and kill the tinted races.

I know I know, so unfair, but there you have it. The Romans had darkies,  the Victorians, the Americans and even our good selves.

Superior culture, innit.

yep love how Muslims embrace diversity....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBKvZT-tHRk

It is insane to allow in Muslims. insane.

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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/COurqqBUcAAJMdN.jpg

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http://elsasblog.com/image-files/muslim-headwear-headscarf-hijab.jpg

http://www.cjhsla.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/islam_dominate1-238x300.jpg

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CjG-iOuXAAAZlja.jpg

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The other day, the Australian government lost its working majority because, thanks to the usual boneheaded jurists, an Aussie-born citizen who chances also to share, say, New Zealand citizenship is deemed to be ineligible to sit in Parliament...But at the same time we're assured that an Uzbek or a Somali or a Yemeni becomes a fully functioning citizen of a free, pluralist society simply by setting foot on western soil. That's not so. And the price of maintaining the delusion is blood on the pavement.

And so, on a buckled, broken bicycle on the Hudson River Greenway, the wheel comes full circle. America and every other major western nation thought the appropriate response to 9/11 was to show how nice we are by dramatically increasing the rate of mass Muslim immigration. Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov was among the many beneficiaries of the west's suicide by virtue-signaling. "Sayfullo" is a Central Asian rendering of "Saifallah" - or "Sword of Allah". Hmm, what a fascinating name! Do you think whichever brain-dead bureaucrat who gave Sword of Allah's online Green Card application the once-over (assuming anyone did) so much as gave the name a second glance? And so, because we did not take an act of war seriously in 2001, we are relentlessly harassed and diminished by unending micro-jihad - in Copenhagen, in Toulouse, in San Bernadino, in Calgary, Barcelona, Parsons Green ...and now on a bike path 300 feet from where we came in sixteen years ago.
https://www.steynonline.com/8229/jihad-on-the-bike-path

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Mark Steyn thinks that following the black letter of the law over dual citizenships in Parliament is "bone-headed", does he?   I wonder when a foreign born citizen of the USA can become President?  Mmmm?   So bloody typical of the right-wing Islamophobes - when a decision is against what they believe, they insult the jurists who made it.  When its in their direction, they compliment them.  Tsk, tsk.  Don't know why they bother, I really don't.   They claim to be "protecting Western citilisation" yet at the same time they undermine it at every turn.    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 4:49pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Mark Steyn thinks that following the black letter of the law over dual citizenships in Parliament is "bone-headed", does he?   I wonder when a foreign born citizen of the USA can become President?  Mmmm?   So bloody typical of the right-wing Islamophobes - when a decision is against what they believe, they insult the jurists who made it.  When its in their direction, they compliment them.  Tsk, tsk.  Don't know why they bother, I really don't.   They claim to be "protecting Western citilisation" yet at the same time they undermine it at every turn.    ::) ::)

Thank you thicko, you can always be relied on to misunderstand even the simplest things.

Being born in a place is pretty straightforward and obvious, Bwwwwian.

Citizenship laws of every other country that may apply to people born IN Australia is not so.

Bwian, you are soooo stupid, it's funny!!!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Woll those eyes, mong, show us just how idiotic you are (like we don't know).

Frank wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 4:49pm: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  So, Mark Steyn thinks that following the black letter of the law over dual citizenships in Parliament is "bone-headed", does he?   I wonder when a foreign born citizen of the USA can become President?  Mmmm?   So bloody typical of the right-wing Islamophobes - when a decision is against what they believe, they insult the jurists who made it.  When its in their direction, they compliment them.  Tsk, tsk.  Don't know why they bother, I really don't.   They claim to be "protecting Western citilisation" yet at the same time they undermine it at every turn.    ::) ::) Thank you thicko, you can always be relied on to misunderstand even the simplest things. Being born in a place is pretty straightforward and obvious, Bwwwwian. Citizenship laws of every other country that may apply to people born IN Australia is not so. Bwian, you are soooo stupid, it's funny!!!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Woll those eyes, mong, show us just how idiotic you are (like we don't know).

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  The laws of Australia AND the laws of other nations govern whether an individual has inherited dual citizenship from another country.  That is what came out of the Citizenship Seven case.   Australian law does not cover what occurs overseas in other jurisdictions.  It is the duty of someone standing for election that they comply with ALL aspects of our Constitution.   Section 44 covers citizenship - you cannot sit in Parliament if you are a dual citizen.  QED.    ::)

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus.
Right bwian.
Our society is worse off due to Multiculti that it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull.
lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon.  Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence.  Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid.  Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right.  let's not allow the Australian people a say on this.  let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy.

Oh yeah bwian...  enrichment... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 6:50am:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian. Our society is worse off due to Multiculti that it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull. lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon.  Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence.  Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid.  Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right.  let's not allow the Australian people a say on this.  let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy. Oh yeah bwian...  enrichment... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I agree.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

you cannot sit in Parliament if you are a dual citizen.

Barnaby Joyce? 2005 till 2017? Any more morons that want outing, or is it only BS this time around?

Justsayno wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 9:11pm: you cannot sit in Parliament if you are a dual citizen. Barnaby Joyce? 2005 till 2017? Any more morons that want outing, or is it only BS this time around?

Who's Matty?

Justsayno wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 9:11pm: you cannot sit in Parliament if you are a dual citizen. Barnaby Joyce? 2005 till 2017? Any more morons that want outing, or is it only BS this time around?

Barnaby Joyce was only discovered to be a dual citizen in 2017.  Between 2005 and 2017, he sat therefore. illegally in Parliament, JSN.    ::)

Some more enrichment for bwian...

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVP8cfCUAAfhzG.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian? :D :D :D
Our society is worse off due to Multiculti than it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull.
Lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon. 
Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence. 
Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid. 
Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right. 
Let's not allow the Australian people a say on this. 
Let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

Some more enrichment for bwian... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVP8cfCUAAfhzG.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian? :D :D :D Our society is worse off due to Multiculti than it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull. Lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon.  Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence.  Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid.  Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right.  Let's not allow the Australian people a say on this.  Let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

That's S&M, Grendel, a completely different category.

The recipient is hung to prolong his orgasm, it's said to be fabulous.

agree

agree

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 3:15am:

Grendel wrote on Nov 9th, 2017 at 9:23pm: Some more enrichment for bwian... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVP8cfCUAAfhzG.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian? :D :D :D Our society is worse off due to Multiculti than it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull. Lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon.  Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence.  Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid.  Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right.  Let's not allow the Australian people a say on this.  Let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) That's S&M, Grendel, a completely different category. The recipient is hung to prolong his orgasm, it's said to be fabulous.

just your thing, isn't it.

Some more enrichment for bwian...

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVP8cfCUAAfhzG.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian? :D :D :D
Our society is worse off due to Multiculti than it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull.
Lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon. 
Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence. 
Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid. 
Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right. 
Let's not allow the Australian people a say on this. 
Let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Did I miss bwian having a sex change?

Frank wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 7:34am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 3:15am: Grendel wrote on Nov 9th, 2017 at 9:23pm: Some more enrichment for bwian... http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkVP8cfCUAAfhzG.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  The only enrichment LW Progs and Multicultists like bwian have offered over the years is to restaurant menus. Right bwian? :D :D :D Our society is worse off due to Multiculti than it was before Fraser brought it in.  Fraser...  just another Wet like Turnbull. Lets bring in criminal Muslims from Lebanon.  Lets support the creation of ME crime. Gangs, drugs, violence.  Let's import the seeds of home grown Islamic terrorism, cultural apartheid.  Lets keep changing Multiculti but never get it right.  Let's not allow the Australian people a say on this.  Let's ridicule and slander and libel those as racists who disagree with the policy. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) That's S&M, Grendel, a completely different category. The recipient is hung to prolong his orgasm, it's said to be fabulous. just your thing, isn't it.

Actually, old chap, as a submissive it's more your thing, but we aim to please.

Yes, old boy, just my thing. Now where do you want it today?

Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 1:10pm:

Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Are you suggesting Muslims don't enjoy a bit of fun?

I've Rogered as many Muslims as I've splayed frigid little virgins just like you, dear.

You all enjoy it.

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 12:40pm:

Actually, old chap, as a submissive it's more your thing, but we aim to please. Yes, old boy, just my thing. Now where do you want it today?

Do your gran, Kameel (you've probably done your pop while he was still kicking), there's a good multiculturalist :

Plague is spreading because relatives are digging up their dead and dancing with the corpses
PEOPLE are digging up the remains of their loved ones and dancing with them as part of an ancient ritual that’s helping the plague spread.



'Dancing' in the Kameel sense of the word, of course, the dirty bastards. Precious bodily fluids and all that.

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 1:10pm: Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Are you suggesting Muslims don't enjoy a bit of fun? Are you suggesting being a mindless troll is fun? I've Rogered as many Muslims as I've splayed frigid little virgins just like you, dear. Ah now there you go again are you having fun, rudely speaking about things you are actually clueless about? You all enjoy it. I find everything you write a pointless and total waste of my time. Hurts when someone points out the truth about you does it?

Grendel wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 6:35pm: Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 1:10pm: Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Are you suggesting Muslims don't enjoy a bit of fun? Are you suggesting being a mindless troll is fun? I've Rogered as many Muslims as I've splayed frigid little virgins just like you, dear. Ah now there you go again are you having fun, rudely speaking about things you are actually clueless about? You all enjoy it. I find everything you write a pointless and total waste of my time. Hurts when someone points out the truth about you does it?

Not at all, it just shows you like a struggle.

So do I, dear.

Frank wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 12:40pm: Actually, old chap, as a submissive it's more your thing, but we aim to please. Yes, old boy, just my thing. Now where do you want it today? Do your gran, Kameel (you've probably done your pop while he was still kicking), there's a good multiculturalist : Plague is spreading because relatives are digging up their dead and dancing with the corpses PEOPLE are digging up the remains of their loved ones and dancing with them as part of an ancient ritual that’s helping the plague spread. 'Dancing' in the Kameel sense of the word, of course, the dirty bastards. Precious bodily fluids and all that.

Trust our government to let these types into Australia, old boy. Plague-ridden tinted races who are genetically predispoded to dance with the dead.

I'm sure your church can take in a few, no? It would be the decent thing to do.

a chinese pom and a fly in from the netherlands whinging about multiculturalism in this country


f  ukk off home of you don't like it :D :D :D :D :D

Karnal wrote on Nov 10^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 8:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 6:35pm: Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 1:10pm: Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Are you suggesting Muslims don't enjoy a bit of fun? Are you suggesting being a mindless troll is fun? I've Rogered as many Muslims as I've splayed frigid little virgins just like you, dear. Ah now there you go again are you having fun, rudely speaking about things you are actually clueless about? You all enjoy it. I find everything you write a pointless and total waste of my time. Hurts when someone points out the truth about you does it? Not at all, it just shows you like a struggle. So do I, dear.

Well DEAR....  let me put you STRAIGHT.
I'm not a virgin...  but YOU are a total WANKER.

Grendel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2017 at 5:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 9:33pm: Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 8:43pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 6:35pm: Grendel wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 1:10pm: Not very Muslim of you karnal... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Are you suggesting Muslims don't enjoy a bit of fun? Are you suggesting being a mindless troll is fun? I've Rogered as many Muslims as I've splayed frigid little virgins just like you, dear. Ah now there you go again are you having fun, rudely speaking about things you are actually clueless about? You all enjoy it. I find everything you write a pointless and total waste of my time. Hurts when someone points out the truth about you does it? Not at all, it just shows you like a struggle. So do I, dear. Well DEAR....  let me put you STRAIGHT. I'm not a virgin...  but YOU are a total WANKER.

He's abusing me, Moderators. He's asking for a taste of the whip.

Who's a naughty boy?

Meanwhile, on the Sunni side of the street in East London:

https://twitter.com/ccshoreditch/status/929754254990069761

Frank wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Meanwhile, on the Sunni side of the street in East London: https://twitter.com/ccshoreditch/status/929754254990069761

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Shoreditch is in London and London is not in Australia, Soren, that last time I checked an atlas.   You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm: Meanwhile, on the Sunni side of the street in East London: https://twitter.com/ccshoreditch/status/929754254990069761 http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Shoreditch is in London and London is not in Australia, Soren, that last time I checked an atlas.   You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::)

Yawn away dill. Others, obviously not yourself can take lessons and guidance for what happens in broadly similar western nations and nations that share secular ideals, where equality, equality of religion, and female and gay is promoted.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 6:18pm:

You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::)

No, I don't realise -  do explain the difference, Doktor.

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:18pm: Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 6:05pm: Meanwhile, on the Sunni side of the street in East London: https://twitter.com/ccshoreditch/status/929754254990069761 http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Shoreditch is in London and London is not in Australia, Soren, that last time I checked an atlas.   You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::) Yawn away dill. Others, obviously not yourself can take lessons and guidance for what happens in broadly similar western nations and nations that share secular ideals, where equality, equality of religion, and female and gay is promoted.

And how does video of someone having a crap on the footpath in London undermine those ideals in the UK or even across the globe, here?    ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:18pm:  You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::) No, I don't realise -  do explain the difference, Doktor.

Look the words up, in a dictionary, Soren.  Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 7:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 6:18pm:  You seem also to assume that active Multiculturalism is the same as laissez faire Multiculturalism.   Tsk, tsk, there is quite a lot of difference, you realise?    ::) No, I don't realise -  do explain the difference, Doktor. Look the words up, in a dictionary, Soren.  Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::)

Now there is active multiculturalism and laissez faire multiculturalism - it's like global warming, AGW, climate change.

The definitions and arse-coverings multiply just as the stupidity and hollowness of each phase gets found out. 

Nothing is as outdated as the latest definition of 'multiculturalism' or 'AGW'.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::)

As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless.

Frank wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless.

I have a question, old boy. Do you rule out the use of porkies in your crusade for intelligence and integrity?

Frank wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless. I have a question, old boy. Do you rule out the use of porkies in your crusade for intelligence and integrity?

As much as you, Kameel, naturally.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

'Active and laissez faire Muliticulturalism' - this is your invention, something you introduced without any explanation, as a way of 'catching people unawares' as you imagine it, git.

You are too stupid to explain anything but cunning enough to be always applying sleights of hand.  Like Kameel, the 'no porkies in Islam, ten rupee gimme' Paki arse fancier.

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:27pm: Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) 'Active and laissez faire Muliticulturalism' - this is your invention, something you introduced without any explanation, as a way of 'catching people unawares' as you imagine it, git. You are too stupid to explain anything but cunning enough to be always applying sleights of hand.  Like Kameel, the 'no porkies in Islam, ten rupee gimme' Paki arse fancier.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:27pm: Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) 'Active and laissez faire Muliticulturalism' - this is your invention, something you introduced without any explanation, as a way of 'catching people unawares' as you imagine it, git. You are too stupid to explain anything but cunning enough to be always applying sleights of hand.  Like Kameel, the 'no porkies in Islam, ten rupee gimme' Paki arse fancier. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Yawning like a mong is your idea of 'intelligent answer',  Bwian. How idiotic is that?

Frank wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 8:59pm:

[ Yawning like a mong is your idea of 'intelligent answer',  Bwian. How idiotic is that?

Yawning is showing that your answer is not worth considering, Soren.   When you improve your answers, I will take note of them and answer them.  I have made this clear, many times but you apparently refuse to understand my points and continue with your boring, ad hominem insults and of course, your standard resorting to Islamophobia/Racism/Xenophobia.   You may find it amusing but I find it just plain boring.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:31pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:59pm: [ Yawning like a mong is your idea of 'intelligent answer',  Bwian. How idiotic is that? Yawning is showing that your answer is not worth considering, Soren.   When you improve your answers, I will take note of them and answer them.  I have made this clear, many times but you apparently refuse to understand my points and continue with your boring, ad hominem insults and of course, your standard resorting to Islamophobia/Racism/Xenophobia.   You may find it amusing but I find it just plain boring.    ::)

You talk shite and when you are called out for talking shite - 'hey, Bwian, you are talking shite!' - you turn around and expect people to politely ask you why you are talking shite.

What IS the 'polite' way of asking you why you are talking shite, Bwian, and act like a yawning mong every time you ARE asked?

Please advise and regards.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:27pm: Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2017 at 10:17pm: Then get back to us with some intelligent, polite questions and I'll consider answering them.   ::) As if you could ever answer an intelligent question!!!!! Ha!  Your self-deception is limitless. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) 'Active and laissez faire Muliticulturalism' - this is your invention, something you introduced without any explanation, as a way of 'catching people unawares' as you imagine it, git. You are too stupid to explain anything but cunning enough to be always applying sleights of hand.  Like Kameel, the 'no porkies in Islam, ten rupee gimme' Paki arse fancier. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I knew I was asking a bit much for you to try and move beyond your usual ad hominem argument.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

You are hiding your stupidity behind faux indignation, mong.

Frank wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:31pm: Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:59pm: [ Yawning like a mong is your idea of 'intelligent answer',  Bwian. How idiotic is that? Yawning is showing that your answer is not worth considering, Soren.   When you improve your answers, I will take note of them and answer them.  I have made this clear, many times but you apparently refuse to understand my points and continue with your boring, ad hominem insults and of course, your standard resorting to Islamophobia/Racism/Xenophobia.   You may find it amusing but I find it just plain boring.    ::) You talk shite and when you are called out for talking shite - 'hey, Bwian, you are talking shite!' - you turn around and expect people to politely ask you why you are talking shite. What IS the 'polite' way of asking you why you are talking shite, Bwian, and act like a yawning mong every time you ARE asked? Please advise and regards.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Here we go again with the ad hominem insults.  Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother, Soren.  It is boring and pointless.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Here we go again with the ad hominem insults.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:

Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother,

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:

It is boring and pointless.  Tsk, tsk.

Says it all.

yeah...  it says bwian has nothing....  as usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26kKDCCV9g

Multiculturalism is a stupid scam.

Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY.

Same for Kameel and Gandalf, Gino and Mother and the rest of thee pouting mong community.

Whoooosh...!!!!  Wha' was that?  Stuff over your 'eads.

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26kKDCCV9g Multiculturalism is a stupid scam. Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY. Same for Kameel and Gandalf, Gino and Mother and the rest of thee pouting mong community. Whoooosh...!!!!  Wha' was that?  Stuff over your 'eads.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem insults yet again, Soren?  My, what a shame.  Did you have a point to make?    ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 10:46am:

yeah...  bwian has nothing....  as usual.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29th, 2017 at 8:29pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26kKDCCV9g Multiculturalism is a stupid scam. Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY. Same for Kameel and Gandalf, Gino and Mother and the rest of thee pouting mong community. Whoooosh...!!!!  Wha' was that?  Stuff over your 'eads.   Did you have a point to make?    ::) ::)

Yeah, and I made it, as have countless others over many years.

Multiculturalism is a stupid scam.

Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY. 




Back to your cats and disappointments, Bwian.  Off you chuff.

Frank wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30th, 2017 at 10:01pm: Frank wrote on Nov 29th, 2017 at 8:29pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26kKDCCV9g Multiculturalism is a stupid scam. Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY. Same for Kameel and Gandalf, Gino and Mother and the rest of thee pouting mong community. Whoooosh...!!!!  Wha' was that?  Stuff over your 'eads.   Did you have a point to make?    ::) ::) Yeah, and I made it, as have countless others over many years. Multiculturalism is a stupid scam. Bwian will not understand ANY of this. Not ANY.  Back to your cats and disappointments, Bwian.  Off you chuff.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  You really are a sorry little misanthrope, aren't you?  Tsk tsk,  Multiculturalism works for the majority of the population, the majority of the time, Soren.   Approximately 85% of people agree that it has been good for Australia, almost identical with the proportion in the 2013 survey. in 2014's Scanlon Report on Social Cohesion in Australia.   In 2017 the total was again as high as 85% agreeing that Multiculturalism was good for Australia. You have a very long row to hoe to get that to change to your view of things.    ::)

Multiculturalism is a fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eNXWtXRQI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY

Frank wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 3:26pm:

Multiculturalism is a fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eNXWtXRQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  You really are a sorry little misanthrope, aren't you?  Tsk tsk,  Multiculturalism works for the majority of the population, the majority of the time, Soren.   Approximately 85% of people agree that it has been good for Australia, almost identical with the proportion in the 2013 survey. in 2014's Scanlon Report on Social Cohesion in Australia.   In 2017 the total was again as high as 85% agreeing that Multiculturalism was good for Australia. You have a very long row to hoe to get that to change to your view of things.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 3:26pm: Multiculturalism is a fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eNXWtXRQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  You really are a sorry little misanthrope, aren't you?  Tsk tsk,  Multiculturalism works for the majority of the population, the majority of the time, Soren.   Approximately 85% of people agree that it has been good for Australia, almost identical with the proportion in the 2013 survey. in 2014's Scanlon Report on Social Cohesion in Australia.   In 2017 the total was again as high as 85% agreeing that Multiculturalism was good for Australia. You have a very long row to hoe to get that to change to your view of things.    ::)

How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:18pm:

How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that.

How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class.

Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::)

There's less jobs, less housing and wages are going down. It's a fact that the only group who does well out of the cheap labour multiculturalism produces are the rich Brian.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:24pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::) There's less jobs, less housing and wages are going down. It's a fact that the only group who does well out of the cheap labour multiculturalism produces are the rich Brian.

You're the first person I've come across that blames "cheap wages" and "cheap jobs" on Multiculturalism, Hammer.   You really are reaching in your Xenophobia, aren't you?    ::)

What I'd recommend is a course in simple economics.   Pay attention to the bit about "supply and demand" in the field of labour.   No Multiculturalism there, mate, none at all.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:24pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::) There's less jobs, less housing and wages are going down. It's a fact that the only group who does well out of the cheap labour multiculturalism produces are the rich Brian. You're the first person I've come across that blames "cheap wages" and "cheap jobs" on Multiculturalism, Hammer.   You really are reaching in your Xenophobia, aren't you?    ::) What I'd recommend is a course in simple economics.   Pay attention to the bit about "supply and demand" in the field of labour.   No Multiculturalism there, mate, none at all.    ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D As long as migrants have a job while a million plus of our own people are unemployed hey Brian?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:24pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::) There's less jobs, less housing and wages are going down. It's a fact that the only group who does well out of the cheap labour multiculturalism produces are the rich Brian. You're the first person I've come across that blames "cheap wages" and "cheap jobs" on Multiculturalism, Hammer.   You really are reaching in your Xenophobia, aren't you?    ::) What I'd recommend is a course in simple economics.   Pay attention to the bit about "supply and demand" in the field of labour.   No Multiculturalism there, mate, none at all.    ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D As long as migrants have a job while a million plus of our own people are unemployed hey Brian?

They are all competing in the same market place, Hammer.  If you're not good enough to get a job, who's fault is that?   Mmmm, could it be yours?   Tsk, tsk,  no, you'd much rather reserve positions on the basis of residency or "race" or Aryaness or skin colour/eye shape/lip thickness/etc.  Right?   Yeah, that will really drive the economy upwards, now won't it?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:24pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::) There's less jobs, less housing and wages are going down. It's a fact that the only group who does well out of the cheap labour multiculturalism produces are the rich Brian. You're the first person I've come across that blames "cheap wages" and "cheap jobs" on Multiculturalism, Hammer.   You really are reaching in your Xenophobia, aren't you?    ::) What I'd recommend is a course in simple economics.   Pay attention to the bit about "supply and demand" in the field of labour.   No Multiculturalism there, mate, none at all.    ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D As long as migrants have a job while a million plus of our own people are unemployed hey Brian? They are all competing in the same market place, Hammer.  If you're not good enough to get a job, who's fault is that?   Mmmm, could it be yours?   Tsk, tsk,  no, you'd much rather reserve positions on the basis of residency or "race" or Aryaness or skin colour/eye shape/lip thickness/etc.  Right?   Yeah, that will really drive the economy upwards, now won't it?    ::) ::)

No Brian. I just can't work out why we are giving a helping hand to the rest of the world when are own country has so many problems. Doesn't that ever cross your mind?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:01pm:

No Brian. I just can't work out why we are giving a helping hand to the rest of the world when are own country has so many problems. Doesn't that ever cross your mind?

You may have forgotten, nor perhaps even understood what prompted the Federal Minister for Migration, the Honourable Arthur Calwell to suggest that Australia should, "populate or perish", Hammer.   It would do you good to learn some real history about Australia, rather than your neo-Fascist pap.   In 1939, Australia had a population of only 7 million people.   Barely sufficient for us to field 1 million people in uniform in 1944.  Hardly sufficient for us to defend Victoria and the southern half of NSW, let alone take the fight to the Japanese home islands.   To remedy that, mass-migration was undertaken.   Today, our population is approximately 24 million - three times as great.   Today, we can defend all of the South-Eastern corner of the continent and the Perth region quite adequately.   That is where most of our population resides, BTW.

In 1944, the Armed Forces had to start demobilising some of it's forces.  We had gone too far and become too mobilised.   We had insufficient civilian workers to make the war-time economy work efficiently.

Our migrants didn't arrive to help the world, Hammer.  They arrived to help us, as a nation, as a society.   They provide the workers to keep our economy going and growing.   Some Australians, like you, appear to think they don't have to compete with migrant workers.   Sorry, that isn't how it works.   You need to be as well qualified, if not more so, in order to compete.   Tsk, tsk, you act as you believe you have a right to a job.   Next you'll claim you have a right to a house.   You have to work to get either, Hammer.   Simple economics dictates that.  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:01pm: No Brian. I just can't work out why we are giving a helping hand to the rest of the world when are own country has so many problems. Doesn't that ever cross your mind? You may have forgotten, nor perhaps even understood what prompted the Federal Minister for Migration, the Honourable Arthur Calwell to suggest that Australia should, "populate or perish", Hammer.   It would do you good to learn some real history about Australia, rather than your neo-Fascist pap.   In 1939, Australia had a population of only 7 million people.   Barely sufficient for us to field 1 million people in uniform in 1944.  Hardly sufficient for us to defend Victoria and the southern half of NSW, let alone take the fight to the Japanese home islands.   To remedy that, mass-migration was undertaken.   Today, our population is approximately 24 million - three times as great.   Today, we can defend all of the South-Eastern corner of the continent and the Perth region quite adequately.   That is where most of our population resides, BTW. In 1944, the Armed Forces had to start demobilising some of it's forces.  We had gone too far and become too mobilised.   We had insufficient civilian workers to make the war-time economy work efficiently. Our migrants didn't arrive to help the world, Hammer.  They arrived to help us, as a nation, as a society.   They provide the workers to keep our economy going and growing.   Some Australians, like you, appear to think they don't have to compete with migrant workers.   Sorry, that isn't how it works.   You need to be as well qualified, if not more so, in order to compete.   Tsk, tsk, you act as you believe you have a right to a job.   Next you'll claim you have a right to a house.   You have to work to get either, Hammer.   Simple economics dictates that.  ::) ::)

Australia is only a young country Brian. Have you ever considered that may have been the reason for our small population. It would have built itself. You know what affected our population Brian? WW1. A whole generation of our best were smashed. It's just a pity that now we have a de-unified mess that would be hard pressed to get many of our ethnic peoples in a uniform if there was another war.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:01pm: No Brian. I just can't work out why we are giving a helping hand to the rest of the world when are own country has so many problems. Doesn't that ever cross your mind? You may have forgotten, nor perhaps even understood what prompted the Federal Minister for Migration, the Honourable Arthur Calwell to suggest that Australia should, "populate or perish", Hammer.   It would do you good to learn some real history about Australia, rather than your neo-Fascist pap.   In 1939, Australia had a population of only 7 million people.   Barely sufficient for us to field 1 million people in uniform in 1944.  Hardly sufficient for us to defend Victoria and the southern half of NSW, let alone take the fight to the Japanese home islands.   To remedy that, mass-migration was undertaken.   Today, our population is approximately 24 million - three times as great.   Today, we can defend all of the South-Eastern corner of the continent and the Perth region quite adequately.   That is where most of our population resides, BTW. In 1944, the Armed Forces had to start demobilising some of it's forces.  We had gone too far and become too mobilised.   We had insufficient civilian workers to make the war-time economy work efficiently. Our migrants didn't arrive to help the world, Hammer.  They arrived to help us, as a nation, as a society.   They provide the workers to keep our economy going and growing.   Some Australians, like you, appear to think they don't have to compete with migrant workers.   Sorry, that isn't how it works.   You need to be as well qualified, if not more so, in order to compete.   Tsk, tsk, you act as you believe you have a right to a job.   Next you'll claim you have a right to a house.   You have to work to get either, Hammer.   Simple economics dictates that.  ::) ::) Australia is only a young country Brian. Have you ever considered that may have been the reason for our small population. It would have built itself. You know what affected our population Brian? WW1. A whole generation of our best were smashed. It's just a pity that now we have a de-unified mess that would be hard pressed to get many of our ethnic peoples in a uniform if there was another war.

Hammer, once again you are betrayed by history.   We lost 60,000 casualties.   That is one day's worth of casualties in one battle in WWI (The Somme, day one) and it took approximately four years to achieve that.   It can hardly be described as a "generation" by any stretch of an imagination.   We had a population of 5 million in 1914.   By 1939, we had added another 2 million to that total, even with the losses of WWI.   Our growth rate was not overly great by world standards.   We needed, as Arthur Calwell put it, to, "populate or perish" and so the mass migration scheme was introduced after WWII.  Without it, we would have a population of about 12 million, in my estimation.     ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 4:18pm: How has multiculturalism been good for working class people? I bet you can't answer that. How has it been good for society in Australia as a whole?  It has opened Australian society up, it has exposed it to new ideas, new concepts, new beliefs, Hammer.   And that includes the working class. Monocultural societies don't work very well.   Iceland, Japan are the only two which spring to mind and even they are allowing Multiculturalism into their midst.  The Japanese have Ainu, Korean, Chinese and other cultural groups in their society.  In Iceland, you have Americans, British, Norwegian, Swedish and so on groups being established.   The day and age of isolationism is long gone, Hammer, long gone.  No nation can or would pull up the drawbridge and isolate itself from the rest of the world.    ::)

Bollocks, Bwian Woss.

There are NO 'multicultural' countries outside some western countries.  There is no multiculturalism in Africa, Asia, In Arab countries.

There is no multiculturalism in Europe except in a few submissive places like England (not Scotland or Wales or Norther Ireland), Sweden, Germany, guilt central, and ... er... that's it.
Canada, yes, and pockets of the US (growing).

Monoculture is very, very, very important. We must have countries with their own cultures so we can have a variety of human experiences. We do not want every country to be a mix of vanilla, chocolate or caramel ice cream PLUS dog poo. We do not want the dregs of the world to infect and soil and degrade every culture, country, people, way of living.

You want your ice cream, food, drink, ideas, literature, values to be DISTINCTIVE, not diverse. Diverse is a con word it's bogus and only idiot like you fall for it, unquestioningly, idiotically.  Diverse is like mixing bacon, ice cream. brussels sprouts and seals blubber and calling it a glorious dish. It's disgusting crap.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:48pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:01pm: No Brian. I just can't work out why we are giving a helping hand to the rest of the world when are own country has so many problems. Doesn't that ever cross your mind? You may have forgotten, nor perhaps even understood what prompted the Federal Minister for Migration, the Honourable Arthur Calwell to suggest that Australia should, "populate or perish", Hammer.   It would do you good to learn some real history about Australia, rather than your neo-Fascist pap.   In 1939, Australia had a population of only 7 million people.   Barely sufficient for us to field 1 million people in uniform in 1944.  Hardly sufficient for us to defend Victoria and the southern half of NSW, let alone take the fight to the Japanese home islands.   To remedy that, mass-migration was undertaken.   Today, our population is approximately 24 million - three times as great.   Today, we can defend all of the South-Eastern corner of the continent and the Perth region quite adequately.   That is where most of our population resides, BTW. In 1944, the Armed Forces had to start demobilising some of it's forces.  We had gone too far and become too mobilised.   We had insufficient civilian workers to make the war-time economy work efficiently. Our migrants didn't arrive to help the world, Hammer.  They arrived to help us, as a nation, as a society.   They provide the workers to keep our economy going and growing.   Some Australians, like you, appear to think they don't have to compete with migrant workers.   Sorry, that isn't how it works.   You need to be as well qualified, if not more so, in order to compete.   Tsk, tsk, you act as you believe you have a right to a job.   Next you'll claim you have a right to a house.   You have to work to get either, Hammer.   Simple economics dictates that.  ::) ::) Australia is only a young country Brian. Have you ever considered that may have been the reason for our small population. It would have built itself. You know what affected our population Brian? WW1. A whole generation of our best were smashed. It's just a pity that now we have a de-unified mess that would be hard pressed to get many of our ethnic peoples in a uniform if there was another war. Hammer, once again you are betrayed by history.   We lost 60,000 casualties.   That is one day's worth of casualties in one battle in WWI (The Somme, day one) and it took approximately four years to achieve that.   It can hardly be described as a "generation" by any stretch of an imagination.   We had a population of 5 million in 1914.   By 1939, we had added another 2 million to that total, even with the losses of WWI.   Our growth rate was not overly great by world standards.   We needed, as Arthur Calwell put it, to, "populate or perish" and so the mass migration scheme was introduced after WWII.  Without it, we would have a population of about 12 million, in my estimation.     ::)

No Brian. 60,000 dead men from a small country is a catastrophe. Australia had the highest casualty count to population ratio of any nation during WW1. Plus all the disabled, gassed, mentally ill men who never had children bumps that casualty figure up massively.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 3:26pm: Multiculturalism is a fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eNXWtXRQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  You really are a sorry little misanthrope, aren't you?  Tsk tsk,  Multiculturalism works for the majority of the population, the majority of the time, Soren.   Approximately 85% of people agree that it has been good for Australia, almost identical with the proportion in the 2013 survey. in 2014's Scanlon Report on Social Cohesion in Australia.   In 2017 the total was again as high as 85% agreeing that Multiculturalism was good for Australia. You have a very long row to hoe to get that to change to your view of things.    ::)

64 % want immigrants to change their behaviour (ie assimilate). That's about two third - ie the locals.



p 67, dicko.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Hammer, once again you are betrayed by history.   We lost 60,000 casualties.   That is one day's worth of casualties in one battle in WWI (The Somme, day one) and it took approximately four years to achieve that.   It can hardly be described as a "generation" by any stretch of an imagination.   We had a population of 5 million in 1914.   By 1939, we had added another 2 million to that total, even with the losses of WWI.   Our growth rate was not overly great by world standards.   We needed, as Arthur Calwell put it, to, "populate or perish" and so the mass migration scheme was introduced after WWII.  Without it, we would have a population of about 12 million, in my estimation.     ::)

Calwell was wrong about 'populate or perish' unless you understand that 'perish' was about the invasion of Asian hordes.

But the 'populate' bit has now become exactly that - a sanctioned invasion by the Asian hordes. Calwell wanted Australia to be populated by Europeans not the threat he perceived, rightly - Asians.
He didn't spell it out because it was so obvious that Australia was a European country or that marriage is for a man and a woman.  So the Asian hordes creep in, the gays creep in.

Frank wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 8:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:14pm: Hammer, once again you are betrayed by history.   We lost 60,000 casualties.   That is one day's worth of casualties in one battle in WWI (The Somme, day one) and it took approximately four years to achieve that.   It can hardly be described as a "generation" by any stretch of an imagination.   We had a population of 5 million in 1914.   By 1939, we had added another 2 million to that total, even with the losses of WWI.   Our growth rate was not overly great by world standards.   We needed, as Arthur Calwell put it, to, "populate or perish" and so the mass migration scheme was introduced after WWII.  Without it, we would have a population of about 12 million, in my estimation.     ::) Calwell was wrong about 'populate or perish' unless you understand that 'perish' was about the invasion of Asian hordes.

Asian hordes which never arrived and never will arrive on our shores, Soren.


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But the 'populate' bit has now become exactly that - a sanctioned invasion by the Asian hordes. Calwell wanted Australia to be populated by Europeans not the threat he perceived, rightly - Asians. He didn't spell it out because it was so obvious that Australia was a European country or that marriage is for a man and a woman.  So the Asian hordes creep in, the gays creep in.

Oh, dear, your bigotry and yes, Racism and Xenophobia is showing again, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, I have no idea why you believe your views are typical of Australians.    85% believe that Multiculturalism is good for Australia.   Time you realised how much of a minority you represent.    ::) ::)

Tsk, tsk!

Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent?

After all, it's not America, is it?

Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population.

And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we?

Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs?

::) ::) ::) ::)

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 10:32pm:

Tsk, tsk! Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent? After all, it's not America, is it? Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population. And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we? Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs? ::) ::) ::) ::)

Wrong thread, Lionel.  You need to start one on either Sustainable population or Immigration levels, not on Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism has nothing to do with either of those subjects.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 8:08pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:14pm: Hammer, once again you are betrayed by history.   We lost 60,000 casualties.   That is one day's worth of casualties in one battle in WWI (The Somme, day one) and it took approximately four years to achieve that.   It can hardly be described as a "generation" by any stretch of an imagination.   We had a population of 5 million in 1914.   By 1939, we had added another 2 million to that total, even with the losses of WWI.   Our growth rate was not overly great by world standards.   We needed, as Arthur Calwell put it, to, "populate or perish" and so the mass migration scheme was introduced after WWII.  Without it, we would have a population of about 12 million, in my estimation.     ::) Calwell was wrong about 'populate or perish' unless you understand that 'perish' was about the invasion of Asian hordes. Asian hordes which never arrived and never will arrive on our shores, Soren. Quote: But the 'populate' bit has now become exactly that - a sanctioned invasion by the Asian hordes. Calwell wanted Australia to be populated by Europeans not the threat he perceived, rightly - Asians. He didn't spell it out because it was so obvious that Australia was a European country or that marriage is for a man and a woman.  So the Asian hordes creep in, the gays creep in. Oh, dear, your bigotry and yes, Racism and Xenophobia is showing again, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, I have no idea why you believe your views are typical of Australians.    85% believe that Multiculturalism is good for Australia.   Time you realised how much of a minority you represent.    ::) ::)

You ignorant, eyerolling ass - I am telling you what Calwell said:

Calwell, explaining why he wanted to expand­ Australia’s migrant intake to include Europeans, declared: “There can be no argument against immigration at this point of Australian­ history. We must fill this country, or we will lose it.”

He also summed up his aim when he said: “We have 25 years at most to populate this country before the yellow races are down on us.” Following the attacks on Darwin and the threat of invasion by Japanese forces, Calwell and prime minister John Curtin felt that a rapid increase in population was vital to the country’s security and economic development. It was a strategy that still adhered to the White Australia policy, but it did transform Australia’s ethnic and religious mix.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/review/australia-land-of-tomorrow-poster-hi...

And just as the West invited the Muslim in large and increasing numbers after 2001, Australia invited the yellow races in large numbers after the Vietnam War.

We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better.

Of course, having more people, say through migration, makes the economy bigger but that doesn’t mean that living standards, as measured by gross domestic product per head, for example, are enhanced by bigger migrant intakes.

And what the best quality studies show is that the economic benefits of immigration are zero or slightly positive, with most of the gains being captured by the migrants themselves.

Employers and incumbent workers with complementary skills gain, but incumbent workers who have similar profiles to new migrants miss out in terms of employment prospects and wages.

Then there is the myth about immigration being useful in the context of an ageing society. The Productivity Commission has made the point at least three times that the impact of immigration on the demographic profile of Australia is minimal. After all, migrants themselves age.

What does surprise in the context of the immigration debate in Australia is the now active role being played by the Reserve Bank. After all, the Reserve Bank really does only one thing and that is to set the cash rate on a monthly basis, although it has January off (how last century). One wonders what the more than 1300 bank staff members do all day.

The governor and now an assistant governor of the bank have become active players in promoting high rates of immigration.

While accepting that high population growth — note that immigration accounts for more than half of our population growth — is contributing to high house prices, newly appointed governor Philip Lowe recently expressed the view that “our immigration program I see as a source of national strength. To give that advantage up just so that we can take some pressure off housing prices, I find kind of problematic.”

This really is an extraordinary thing to say. With his high salary, he will be able to help his children into the housing market. But to dismiss the pressure of high and rising house prices on large numbers of people is surely an inappropriate remark by a senior official. To be clear: “ ... a source of national strength” is a non-specific, non-analytical and lazy rationale for our immigration program.

But not to be outdone, we now have assistant governor Luci Ellis also proclaiming the virtues of our mass migration program.

On the latest figures, the net overseas migration was 182,000 for 2015-16 (the next figure does not come out until next March) and the permanent migrant program numbers are set at 190,000 for this financial year and the next three after that. More than 70 per cent of new migrants head to Melbourne or Sydney.

Ellis correctly remarks that Australia has one of the fastest growing populations in the developed world and this is mainly because of the large contribution of immigration.

She also correctly concedes that “just adding more people and growing the economy to keep pace wouldn’t boost our living standards”.

But she then asserts that because migrants are younger than the incumbent population and they are more skilled — in terms of post-school qualifications, at least — this should boost the economy.

If she had actually bothered to look into the research on immigration, she would have found that the post-school qualifications of immigrants to Australia are much less likely to be translated into well-paid jobs compared with Australian-born graduates.

Using 2013 data, Bob Birrell and Ernest Healy of Monash University found that “nearly 70 per cent of Australian graduates aged between 25 and 34 held managerial or professional jobs, whereas only 31 per cent of non-English speaking background immigrants with a degree held such jobs”. A total of 80 per cent of these immigrants came from non-English-speaking backgrounds.

Then there is the current favourite of the high immigration set, including Ellis: we need huge, congested cities to give our economy dynamism, promote innovation and boost productivity. We have seen ridiculously high population growth rates in Melbourne and Sydney, but sadly for Ellis the data on productivity does not support the thesis.

Multifactor productivity growth has gone nowhere and the capital deepening that has occurred (and that has driven labour productivity slightly higher) is overwhelmingly the result of investment in mining — not in the cities.

We have known for a long time that Treasury is part of the big immigration fan club, in part because economic measures are reported in absolute rather than per capita terms. We all know about the more than a quarter of a century of uninterrupted growth — the trouble is that’s not the case in per capita terms. We can now add the Reserve Bank to the fan club’s membership base.

It’s more important than ever that we have a frank discussion about the costs and benefits of immigration, as well as the specific features of our immigration program, as we hurtle towards a population of 40 million by 2060, if not before.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/judith-sloan/bigimmigration-fan-club-is-devoted-to-growth-myths/news-story/63bd150133321ba70dd3fba2cede1b67

A giant Ponzi scheme.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 10:28am:

We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better.

How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::)

Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 3:26pm: Multiculturalism is a fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eNXWtXRQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  You really are a sorry little misanthrope, aren't you?  Tsk tsk,  Multiculturalism works for the majority of the population, the majority of the time, Soren.   Approximately 85% of people agree that it has been good for Australia, almost identical with the proportion in the 2013 survey. in 2014's Scanlon Report on Social Cohesion in Australia.   In 2017 the total was again as high as 85% agreeing that Multiculturalism was good for Australia. You have a very long row to hoe to get that to change to your view of things.    ::)

64 % want immigrants to change their behaviour (ie assimilate). That's about two third - ie the locals.



p 67, dicko.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 11:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am: We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better. How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::) Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::)

And so you still can't provide any counter argument to any points.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 8:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:53am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am: We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better. How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::) Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::) And so you still can't provide any counter argument to any points.

I see you've started another thread,  Good to see you're reading what I'm advising, Soren.    8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 2:33pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:53am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am: We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better. How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::) Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::) And so you still can't provide any counter argument to any points. I see you've started another thread,  Good to see you're reading what I'm advising, Soren.    8-)

And you still can't provide any counter argument to any points.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 11:00pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 10:32pm: Tsk, tsk! Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent? After all, it's not America, is it? Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population. And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we? Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs? ::) ::) ::) ::) Wrong thread, Lionel.  You need to start one on either Sustainable population or Immigration levels, not on Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism has nothing to do with either of those subjects.    ::)

I beg to differ.

Our population now stands at 24,759,831 ( http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%40.nsf/94713ad445ff1425ca25682000192af2/1647509ef7e25faaca2568a900154b63?OpenDocument), not far from the maximum level proposed by many studies. So, my question remains: When do we call a halt to immigration?

If we are to talk about multiculturalism, why are we offering places to immigrants that will not assimilate instead of say, people from Britain (who will assimilate) that have become displaced because of their own home-grown, failed immigration policies? Surely many of them now classify as 'refugees'. Germans, Swiss, Italians, etc.

What you espouse is the unrealistic Utopian ideal of a homogeneous society that embraces all. Well, we've all seen how that is working out in the models already existing in other countries, haven't we Brian.

I have yet to touch on the subject of 457 visa applicants seeking citizenship, including those who wish to include their family members once that citizenship is granted. Again, another question - however one that asks why overseas 'tradesmen' are replacing Aussie jobs even when disguised as shortfalls in recruitment.

Again on multiculturalism - I work with a number of 457 visa holders - and fortunately the majority of those are Filipino.  They often tell me of their previous experiences in the Middle East, where they have to disguise their religious leanings - most being Catholic (or at least Christian) because of their Spanish and American history.

When most Australians discuss 'multiculturalism', they hark back to the success stories associated with that utopian ideal. They remember those that have successfully integrated into our society while bringing their own unique offerings and allegiances to their adopted country. They WORKED.

Multiculturalism has led to the Somali gangs raging in our neighbourhoods. In order to preserve our own society, we need to blend our mix of multicultural ingredients.

There are not enough Canadians here, whether they be French, English or Inuit. Let's let in a few Canadian 'refugees' to swell our 'multiculturalism' - and send the Somalis to Chicago. Or offer the Israeli nation sanctuary in OUR deserts.

Live and let live is still alive in our society, just as mateship transcends colour and creed - but the bumper sticker is also true, 'Fit in or f=== off, we're full'.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 2:33pm: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:53am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am: We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better. How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::) Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::) And so you still can't provide any counter argument to any points. I see you've started another thread,  Good to see you're reading what I'm advising, Soren.    8-) And you still can't provide any counter argument to any points.

This thread is done with, Soren.   I have made my points, you've just engaged in your usual tiresome Racism/Islamophobia/Xenophobia and ad hominem insults.  You've made excuses for your behaviour.   As per usual.  The same old, the same old.  You never learn, do you?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 5:33pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 2:33pm: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:21pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:53am: Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 10:28am: We are swamped by 200+ thousand immigrants every year. We do not need them, they do not make this place better. How can 120th of the population "swamp" us, Soren?   Your hyperbole gets the better of you, yet again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) Oh, and Arthur Calwell didn't like Jews either.  He didn't want any coming to Australia.   What a strange fellow he was, hey?  But then, you'd like to ship all the Jews off in cattle trucks, wouldn't you?    ::) ::) Oh, and Judith Sloan?  I used to have an office down the corridor and 'round the corner from her's at Flinders University.  Her views are such that she considers Chingiz Khan as a dangerous left-wing radical.   As I said to Lionel, you want to talk about Immigration, start a thread about it.  This thread is, last time I checked, about Multiculturalism.   They are two different subjects.    ::) ::) And so you still can't provide any counter argument to any points. I see you've started another thread,  Good to see you're reading what I'm advising, Soren.    8-) And you still can't provide any counter argument to any points. I have made my points, you've just engaged in your usual tiresome Racism/Islamophobia/Xenophobia and ad hominem insults.     ::)

Rolling your watery, unfocused eyes is not making a point, Bwian.

No doubt bwian will be back, he always comes back...  yawning, ridiculing trolling and flaming as per usual.

Bwian adds nothing to the discussion.  Ignorance hypocrisy and bigotry seldom does.

He has nothing except his disingenuous fatuous fantasies.  they are all he has ever had.

BTW Lionel...  Assimilation has nothing to do with Multiculturalism.  You want assimilation then you need to reintroduce that settlement policy.  Bwian is under the misapprehension that a settlement policy defines a society.  Oh dearie dearie me...  tsk, tsk, tsk bwian... ::) ::) ::)

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 11:00pm: Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 10:32pm: Tsk, tsk! Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent? After all, it's not America, is it? Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population. And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we? Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs? ::) ::) ::) ::) Wrong thread, Lionel.  You need to start one on either Sustainable population or Immigration levels, not on Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism has nothing to do with either of those subjects.    ::) I beg to differ.

Differ all you like.  How about you take your differences to the thread on Immigration numbers and not here in the thread about Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism is about what happens after we have migrants arrive...or not.  It will not disappear, how ever much the anti-Multiculturalists want it to.  The White Australia Policy is over, dead and well and truly buried and won't be resurrected when 85% of the Australian population believe Multiculturalism has been good for our society.   Tsk, tsk, Lionel, its not hard to be a little disciplined, you realise?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 4:38pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:47pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 11:00pm: Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 10:32pm: Tsk, tsk! Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent? After all, it's not America, is it? Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population. And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we? Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs? ::) ::) ::) ::) Wrong thread, Lionel.  You need to start one on either Sustainable population or Immigration levels, not on Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism has nothing to do with either of those subjects.    ::) I beg to differ. Differ all you like.  How about you take your differences to the thread on Immigration numbers and not here in the thread about Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism is about what happens after we have migrants arrive...or not.  It will not disappear, how ever much the anti-Multiculturalists want it to.  The White Australia Policy is over, dead and well and truly buried and won't be resurrected when 85% of the Australian population believe Multiculturalism has been good for our society.   Tsk, tsk, Lionel, its not hard to be a little disciplined, you realise?    ::) ::)

Don't expect the division in society to disappear either.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 4:45pm:

Don't expect the division in society to disappear either.

You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer?

How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that...

Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::)

Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.

On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission.

That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian.
Jihad for the ummmah.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian

Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics.

That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::)

It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles. The biggest divide in early Australia were the haves and have nots. That was the big issue. Still is very much an issue. Yes Australia has always had division. Why make it worse with poorly thought out immigration policy?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::) It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles.

Complete and utter nonsense.

You've been sucked in by the media.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::) It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles. Complete and utter nonsense. You've been sucked in by the media.

I doubt the Irish tried to blow up Lucas Heights hey?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:06pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::) It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles. Complete and utter nonsense. You've been sucked in by the media. I doubt the Irish tried to blow up Lucas Heights hey?

Your statement was complete and utter nonsense, and you know it.

Jesus, Homo, what is it like to "live" your life consumed by irrational fear and hatred?

I really feel sorry for you at times.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::) It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles. The biggest divide in early Australia were the haves and have nots. That was the big issue. Still is very much an issue. Yes Australia has always had division. Why make it worse with poorly thought out immigration policy?

Bullshit, Hammer.  Complete and utter bullshit from you.   The biggest divide in Australian society was on sectarian lines - the Protestants (who were usually in power) and the Catholics (who usually weren't).   Time you learnt some history instead of relying on your bullshit prejudice.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 5:28pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:45pm: Don't expect the division in society to disappear either. You mean the divisions like we've had in the past, like the Sectarian Divide between Catholics and Protestants, Hammer? How is that one going again?  Oh, it's disappeared has it?  Funny about that... Divisions within our society appear and disappear all the time.   Stop talking as it any division you believe in is actually real.   In reality, it's all in your imagination...   ::) Protestants and Catholics never planned to blow each other up in oz hey Brian. Keep dreaming Brian Wrong, as usual, Soren.  Very wrong.  While the Division lasted until the early 1960s, it had physical dangers which went back to the Irish troubles.   We had the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion in 1812, which was primarily Irish driven but there was a heavy piece of Protestants discrimination against the Catholics.  There were Catholic plans to kill a British Royal - the attempt on Prince Alfred in 1868 was highly notable.  It lead to a large man hunt against Catholics. That discrimination lasted a long, long time.   Well into the 1960s.  My own father was a victim of it.  He was forced to leave the South Australian Public Service and join the Federal Public Service because the South Australian Public Service did not promote Catholics.   That was a common problem in most state public services.   Then there was the funding of Catholic Schools.    That divide was a hard and a fast one until the Catholics got fed up with it and stopped sending their kids to their own schools...    ::) It was never as bad as our current Islamic troubles. The biggest divide in early Australia were the haves and have nots. That was the big issue. Still is very much an issue. Yes Australia has always had division. Why make it worse with poorly thought out immigration policy? Bullshit, Hammer.  Complete and utter bullshit from you.   The biggest divide in Australian society was on sectarian lines - the Protestants (who were usually in power) and the Catholics (who usually weren't).   Time you learnt some history instead of relying on your bullshit prejudice.   ::) ::)

It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 4:38pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:47pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 11:00pm: Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 10:32pm: Tsk, tsk! Anyone ever consider the studies done on a self-sustainable population for this continent? After all, it's not America, is it? Water supply and arable soil would appear to be an issue once we get past the 25 million mark in population. And we all know what's happening to the Murray/Darling catchment, don't we? Now that we are importing cars, are we also destined to start importing food and water? We start swapping our minerals for foodstuffs? ::) ::) ::) ::) Wrong thread, Lionel.  You need to start one on either Sustainable population or Immigration levels, not on Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism has nothing to do with either of those subjects.    ::) I beg to differ. Differ all you like.  How about you take your differences to the thread on Immigration numbers and not here in the thread about Multiculturalism.   Multiculturalism is about what happens after we have migrants arrive...or not.  It will not disappear, how ever much the anti-Multiculturalists want it to.  The White Australia Policy is over, dead and well and truly buried and won't be resurrected when 85% of the Australian population believe Multiculturalism has been good for our society.   Tsk, tsk, Lionel, its not hard to be a little disciplined, you realise?    ::) ::)

Take the first four words from my post and ignore the rest. Fine.

You don't want debate, you want a platform.

It's all yours, Brian.

Your style, and your agenda, hasn't changed.

Nope...  never has, never will.... 
Bwian is spelled... D I S I N G E N O U S H Y P O C R I T E.

SO FAR NO PROOF FROM BWIAN ABOUT HOW MULTICULTI ENRICHES ANYTHING...  because it doesn't... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned.

I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines.

"YOU'RE AN IDIOT BRIAN."

A well know statement from all over the Internet.  Everywhere he goes.

Bwian has a propensity to ignore facts and make up others.  He is a disingenuous hypocrite.  There is no rational debate with bwian on anything.  It's bwian's way or no way.  He will runaway and sulk or come back as a sock miraculously backing himself up.  Or we have the height of stupidity he displays here every day where he posts YAWNS and the same textual crap. Bwian is simply a TROLL.

We all know Australia's history but bwian is happy to distort it in an effort to support his world fantasy...  there is no point trying to engage him in rational debate...  YOU JUST WON'T GET IT.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4^th, 2017 at 11:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:16pm: It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned. I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines.

On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission.

That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian.
Jihad for the ummmah.

Frank wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:16pm: It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned. I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines. On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission. That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian. Jihad for the ummmah.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia, still, Soren?   What a shame, you appear completely unwilling to change your views - despite not knowing any Muslim people, never having discussed Islam with them or even trying to understand their viewpoints.     ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:16pm: It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned. I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines. On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission. That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian. Jihad for the ummmah. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia, still, Soren?   What a shame, you appear completely unwilling to change your views - despite not knowing any Muslim people, never having discussed Islam with them or even trying to understand their viewpoints.     ::) ::)

You mean he hasn't changed his mind after all your conversations?

Tsk tsk tsk.

Bwian has never changed his mind...  he's simply a bigot...  right bwian?

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

You mean he hasn't changed his mind after all your conversations? Tsk tsk tsk.

Ja, Herr Dokter, Ja.  It is a shame, really, after all our hours of therapy, yet Soren appears still wed to his delusions.

Would you recommend shock therapy?    8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:16pm: It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned. I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines. On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission. That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian. Jihad for the ummmah. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia, still, Soren?   What a shame, you appear completely unwilling to change your views - despite not knowing any Muslim people, never having discussed Islam with them or even trying to understand their viewpoints.     ::) ::)

Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian.

Frank wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:36pm: Frank wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 9:16pm: It's good to see you mention how white people suffered from prejudice in our history. Usually it's just the aborigines. I'm nearly 50 and born catholic and it was well and truly over when I was a child. Nobody mention my religion. I've seen Australia become severely divided during my life. I live in Sydney and it's everywhere. It was never that bad when I was younger. Sydney has no solidarity at all. If that is Australia's future then I'm concerned. I have never denied that White people suffered religious discrimination, Hammer.   You mention that you've grown up without it yet I am slightly older than you and I remember it from my youth.  I suppose it all depended on where and when you grew up.   I recommend you read Keneally's "The Great Shame", published in 1998 to see how White Australia society was divided along sectarian and national lines. On the other hand, divisions in Muslims societies never disappear, nor when there are Muslims in a society.  Division or Jihad until Submission. That's why it's utter folly to invite or allow Islam into societies where it isn't present and limit it it where it is.  Islam has brought division to every single Western country where it has appeared in the last 30-40 years. Every single one. That is its nature and duty and calling, Bwian. Jihad for the ummmah. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia, still, Soren?   What a shame, you appear completely unwilling to change your views - despite not knowing any Muslim people, never having discussed Islam with them or even trying to understand their viewpoints.     ::) ::) Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian.

Brunei.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 3:59pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::)

:D  ;D ;D  :D

The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country.
They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward.

No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again?


https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/

http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/

Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk.

You have to remember, Brian has no right or ability to criticise Islam.

He will however apologise, obfuscate, deny, divert, distract and defend it to the best of his abilities.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Oh, what a shame you had your questions answered correctly.   Brunei is a harmonious Muslim country.   You didn't ask for a nice, Westernised, Liberal-Democracy, harmonious country.   Such a silly man, now you want to change the goal posts 'cause you don't like the answer...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Oh, what a shame you had your questions answered correctly.   Brunei is a harmonious Muslim country.   You didn't ask for a nice, Westernised, Liberal-Democracy, harmonious country.   Such a silly man, now you want to change the goal posts 'cause you don't like the answer...   ::) ::)

I didn't ask you for a 'harmonious' Muslim country, fool. I asked for a REALLY harmonious one.

There isn't one.

What is more, wherever Islam is introduced into a previously harmonious countries, they all become fractious and stressed.  Introducing Islam into any country means stress, terrorism, fractiousness - in short,  Islamic jihad.


Islam bring absolutely nothing positive to any Western country, only negatives. It degrades every Western country it enters.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Oh, what a shame you had your questions answered correctly.   Brunei is a harmonious Muslim country.   You didn't ask for a nice, Westernised, Liberal-Democracy, harmonious country.   Such a silly man, now you want to change the goal posts 'cause you don't like the answer...   ::) ::) I didn't ask you for a 'harmonious' Muslim country, fool. I asked for a REALLY harmonious one.

Funny, that isn't what the question was that I have no highlighted, Soren.  You asked for "a harmonious Muslim society."    I supplied you with one - Brunei.   That answer did not satisfy you.   Tsk, tsk, you're getting really upset about absolutely sweet bugger all.    Brunei is a harmonious, Muslim country.   Get over it, you have been well and truly owned.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Oh, what a shame you had your questions answered correctly.   Brunei is a harmonious Muslim country.   You didn't ask for a nice, Westernised, Liberal-Democracy, harmonious country.   Such a silly man, now you want to change the goal posts 'cause you don't like the answer...   ::) ::) I didn't ask you for a 'harmonious' Muslim country, fool. I asked for a REALLY harmonious one. Funny, that isn't what the question was that I have no highlighted, Soren.  You asked for "a harmonious Muslim society."    I supplied you with one - Brunei.   That answer did not satisfy you.   Tsk, tsk, you're getting really upset about absolutely sweet bugger all.    Brunei is a harmonious, Muslim country.   Get over it, you have been well and truly owned.    ::)

No 'quotation marks around harmonious' in my question, fool.

I didn't mean pretend-harmonious, under the jackboot of sharia harmonious, you incomprehending, invertebrate, senile old woman.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2017 at 3:59pm: Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Point out a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian. Brunei.    ::) :D  ;D ;D  :D The li'l sharia law country of half a million in the sea of 1.6 billion Muslims is the most harmonious Muslim country. They introduced stoning as a penalty only 3 years ago, in 2014. The great Islamic leap backward. No wait, forward. No, wait? What's 'harmonious' again? https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/brunei-darussalam/ http://iheu.org/new-sharia-law-harsh-penalties-worse-to-come-bruneis-human-rights-review/ Half a million people living under sharia law is your idea of a harmonious Muslim society, Bwian the Invertebrate!!!!   ::) ::)  Tsk, tsk. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Oh, what a shame you had your questions answered correctly.   Brunei is a harmonious Muslim country.   You didn't ask for a nice, Westernised, Liberal-Democracy, harmonious country.   Such a silly man, now you want to change the goal posts 'cause you don't like the answer...   ::) ::) I didn't ask you for a 'harmonious' Muslim country, fool. I asked for a REALLY harmonious one. Funny, that isn't what the question was that I have no highlighted, Soren.  You asked for "a harmonious Muslim society."    I supplied you with one - Brunei.   That answer did not satisfy you.   Tsk, tsk, you're getting really upset about absolutely sweet bugger all.    Brunei is a harmonious, Muslim country.   Get over it, you have been well and truly owned.    ::)

BrS, you are really quite ignorant aren't you.

Brunei is broke.

People have to go to prayers.

The oil is running out.

Most people are employed by government.

People have to go to prayers. Or loose their jobs.

You don't travel much do you BS.

Funny That.

Oh and would you like a?  ::) or ::)

How can multiculturalism be enriching our western values when we are forced to use it and it pollutes and dilutes our societies with indiscriminate immigration of non-western cultures and their values.

Grendel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

How can multiculturalism be enriching our western values when we are forced to use it and it pollutes and dilutes our societies with indiscriminate immigration of non-western cultures and their values.

It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better.

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Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::)

What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans?

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::)

Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::)

We don't want people to come to Australia and not be Australians bwian...  how stupid is that...  there is no point coming in the first place if that is the case.
20 years and YOU still don't get it eh. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  YOU ARE A TROLL BWIAN...  No pride in being a Dane?  YOU SUFFER FROM CULTURAL CRINGE  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::)
FEEL FREE TO LIST THEM FOR A CHANGE, WE KEEP ASKING...  YOU KEEP AVOIDING.

Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   NO BWIAN, TOLERANCE DOES.  WHAT A GREAT FOUNDATION IT IS TO HAVE TO TOLERATE YOUR FELLOW AUSTRALIANS EH. They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   EXCEPT MANY DON'T HENCE THE GREAT MANY ENCLAVES WE HAVE.  They compliment one another.  AH NO THEY DON'T AND PUTNAM SHOWED DIVERSITY LEADS TO SOCIAL DISHARMONY AND ISOLATION. Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.  YES BWIAN ITS ALL MIXED UP LIKE AN APARTHEID CULTURAL FRUIT SALAD. Time you go onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism. YOU BWIAN AND YOUR ILK ARE THE DESTROYERS OF SOCIETIES AND NATIONALITIES 5TH COLUMNISTS DEVOID OF REALITY AND REASON  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you go onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::)

Islamic, hindu, chinese, african cultures complement nothing for me. They are inferior in every aspect of culture. I cannot think of a single enhancement they bring to Western lives.

Bwian can't think of any either which is why he never states any ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nobody can because these cultures bring nothing positive to the West, they are not improving Western civilisation in any way. They learn from it, adopt it and often denigrate it because they cannot bear their evident inferiority. They cannot forgive the West for showing up their own inferiority. That is what all the young, brainwashed, ignorant  'antifa' progressive kids are buying into - third world resentment of the recognition of the stark backwardness of non-Western cultures.

Frank wrote on Dec 9^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

Nobody can because these cultures bring nothing positive to the West, they are not improving Western civilisation in any way. They learn from it, adopt it and often denigrate it because they cannot bear their evident inferiority. They cannot forgive the West for showing up their own inferiority. That is what all the young, brainwashed, ignorant  'antifa' progressive kids are buying into - third world resentment of the recognition of the stark backwardness of non-Western cultures.

Oh, old boy, I've seen you people's silly slappy dances. I think they bring a jolly hoot.

Your meatballs, I have to say, not so.

But then, they hardly contain meat, ja?

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::)

What have YOU incorporated in your life from the millions of  Chinese, Vietnamese, Muslim Arab, Indian immigrants' cultures, Bwian? What positive improvements have these cultures made you YOUR life, Bwian?

Western culture, being big on freedom, is rich and fascinating and diverse. Third world superstitions and mad and evil cultural practices do not enhance it at all. They degrade it.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you go onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::) Islamic, hindu, chinese, african cultures complement nothing for me. They are inferior in every aspect of culture. I cannot think of a single enhancement they bring to Western lives.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  None are so blind, hey, Soren?   It is a shame that you feel that you can learn nothing from other cultures.  Why is it a one way street?  Cannot other cultures learn things from yours?  Why in your mind, is the intermixing always only one way?   Tsk, tsk, you really are being rather elitist and foolish, Soren.   Really...    ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Dec 9^th, 2017 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::) What have YOU incorporated in your life from the millions of  Chinese, Vietnamese, Muslim Arab, Indian immigrants' cultures, Bwian? What positive improvements have these cultures made you YOUR life, Bwian?

I have learnt Buddhist regard for all life.  I have learnt Confucianism's honouring of our elders and ancestors.  I have learnt the Arabic ideas of hospitality.   I have learnt how to cook a mean Vietnamese/Indian style of curry.   They have learnt from me, how to be a larriken, how to have fun, how to study and how to protest about things which are wrong, Soren.

To you, it must always be in one direction when in reality the learning process, the assimilation is a two way street.   We all learn from one another.   I have learnt to appreciate Italian/Greek/French/Danish/German/Hungarian/Turkish/Lebanese/Iraqi/Iranian/Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan/Malaysia/Chinese/Vietnamese/Japanese/Korean styles of cooking and cuisine, Soren.    I have taught people how to do a fine BBQ, how to appreciate fine wines and beers.   You focus too much on how inferior all those cultures are, yet you do not appreciate if they are inferior, then they can learn from your and you're representation of  your supposedly superior culture.   If it is learning how to hate, denigrate and disparage people, that is.    ::)


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Western culture, being big on freedom, is rich and fascinating and diverse. Third world superstitions and mad and evil cultural practices do not enhance it at all. They degrade it.

Do they?  And why cannot they learn those aspects and respect them, Soren?    Different cultures for different people in different environments.   Simples, really.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 8:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::) What have YOU incorporated in your life from the millions of  Chinese, Vietnamese, Muslim Arab, Indian immigrants' cultures, Bwian? What positive improvements have these cultures made you YOUR life, Bwian? I have learnt Buddhist regard for all life.  I have learnt Confucianism's honouring of our elders and ancestors.  I have learnt the Arabic ideas of hospitality.   I have learnt how to cook a mean Vietnamese/Indian style of curry.   They have learnt from me, how to be a larriken, how to have fun, how to study and how to protest about things which are wrong, Soren. To you, it must always be in one direction when in reality the learning process, the assimilation is a two way street.   We all learn from one another.   I have learnt to appreciate Italian/Greek/French/Danish/German/Hungarian/Turkish/Lebanese/Iraqi/Iranian/Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan/Malaysia/Chinese/Vietnamese/Japanese/Korean styles of cooking and cuisine, Soren.    I have taught people how to do a fine BBQ, how to appreciate fine wines and beers.   You focus too much on how inferior all those cultures are, yet you do not appreciate if they are inferior, then they can learn from your and you're representation of  your supposedly superior culture.   If it is learning how to hate, denigrate and disparage people, that is.    ::) Quote: Western culture, being big on freedom, is rich and fascinating and diverse. Third world superstitions and mad and evil cultural practices do not enhance it at all. They degrade it. Do they?  And why cannot they learn those aspects and respect them, Soren?    Different cultures for different people in different environments.   Simples, really.    ::)

You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library.



And I don't see the Indians, Africans, Arabs and Chinese intermixing with each other.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8^th, 2017 at 6:20pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::)

I don't  really want to intermix with Muslims, Africans, Chinese every day.
When I do I buy an plane ticket or a cookbook.

I have learnt Buddhist regard for all life.  GEE BWIAN I LEARNED THAT WITHOUT BUDDIST HAVING TO COME HERE.  RECENTLY I'VE NOTICED THAT THEY DON'T LIKE ROHINGYAS...  DID YOU NOTICE THAT BWIAN?
I have learnt Confucianism's honouring of our elders and ancestors.  I have learnt the Arabic ideas of hospitality.   I have learnt how to cook a mean Vietnamese/Indian style of curry.   They have learnt from me, how to be a larriken, how to have fun, how to study and how to protest about things which are wrong, Soren.
LOL...  YOU ARE A FOOL BWIAN.
AUSTRALIA HAS DEVELOPED A CULTURE AND A VERY GOOD CULTURE, I WOULD RATHER BE AUSTRALIAN THAN ANY OTHER NATIONALITY I CAN THINK OF BWIAN.  FEEL FREE TO MIGRATE.  I'M SURE THAT WOULD MAKE MANY HAPPY.
To you, it must always be in one direction when in reality the learning process, the assimilation is a two way street.   We all learn from one another.   
IF YOU COME HERE TO AUSTRALIA BWIAN YOU COME HERE TO BE AUSTRALIAN.  NOT SOME OTHER NATIONALITY BWIAN.
I have learnt to appreciate Italian/Greek/French/Danish/German/Hungarian/Turkish/Lebanese/Iraqi/Iranian/Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan/Malaysia/Chinese/Vietnamese/Japanese/Korean styles of cooking and cuisine, Soren.    I have taught people how to do a fine BBQ, how to appreciate fine wines and beers.   You focus too much on how inferior all those cultures are, yet you do not appreciate if they are inferior, then they can learn from your and you're representation of  your supposedly superior culture.   If it is learning how to hate, denigrate and disparage people, that is.    ::)
I DON'T THINK IN TERMS OF INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR BWIAN, IT'S REALLY NOT THE AUSTRALIAN WAY.  PITY YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED THAT YET.  I DON'T CRINGE ABOUT MY COUNTRY OR ITS PEOPLE... UNLIKE YOU BWIAN. I DON'T DENY WE HAVE A UNIQUE CULTURE BWIAN.  I DON'T MAKE RIDICULOUS STEREOTYPES LIKE YOU DO EITHER.
IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO COOK FOOD FROM OTHER COUNTRIES...  BUY A RECIPE BOOK...  NO MIGRATION REQUIRED.  NOR DO WE NEED TO IMPORT PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD TODAY TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND OTHER NATIONALITIES AND THEIR CULTURES.
YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU DO NOT VALUE OUR CULTURE AS MUCH AS YOU VALUE EVERYONE ELSES.  THAT IS SAD AND PATHETIC.

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 9:51am:

You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library.

Except, Soren, how will they learn about your culture, with its hatred and disparaging of all other cultures?

It is better to have some members of each culture, so it is possible to experience/question them directly, Soren.   Your hatred just sounds like the cries of a despondent Gull out on the Ocean, crying for it's mate.  Tsk, tsk.    ::)


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And I don't see the Indians, Africans, Arabs and Chinese intermixing with each other.

We know you don't get out much, Soren.   Time you went out and intermixed with the rest of Australian society.    ::)

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:20pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 6:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 8th, 2017 at 5:14pm: It is not enriching anything. Adding dog shite to everything in the name of diversity doesn't make anything better. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Really, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you really are an ungracious person fool, aren't you?  No pride in being a Dane?  Of course not, that'd be admitting that Multiculturalism allows good things, even for you, hey?    ::) What was Western culture missing that has been corrected and improved by Muslims, Hindus, Chinese, Africans? Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, Soren.  You seem to be, on one hand, assuming that Multiculturalism is about correcting a fault or faults in Western culture, while on the other hand, you're claiming that it allows different cultures to never interact with one another.   I do wish you'd make your mind up and be consistent in your views.  It'd make life just so much easier, you realise?   ::) ::) Multiculturalism allows all cultures to co-exist, side-by-side, Soren.   They are allowed to intermix at the same time as well.   They compliment one another.   Some people might like Confucianism and Buddhism with their Lebanese or Indian or Gasp!  Even Danish food.    Some people like Catholicism's religiosity to go with their Vietnamese dress.   Some others might like African food to go with their Danish culture.   It's all mixed up, in one giant Multicultural, cosmopolitan culture.    Time you got onboard, Soren.  Otherwise you are going to be left ever further behind as the rest of the Australian society embraces Multiculturalism.   ::) I don't  really want to intermix with Muslims, Africans, Chinese every day. When I do I buy an plane ticket or a cookbook.

Lucky you.  When are you leaving?  I'll be at the airport to see you off.  I promise!   :)

Trolling again bwian...  cant argue the facts eh.
It has ever been so with you hasn't it. :D :D :D :D :D

How are we enriched by Multiculti?
Hmmm?

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

One mote time for poor widdle bwian...


Grendel wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 11:18am:

I have learnt Buddhist regard for all life.  GEE BWIAN I LEARNED THAT WITHOUT BUDDIST HAVING TO COME HERE.  RECENTLY I'VE NOTICED THAT THEY DON'T LIKE ROHINGYAS...  DID YOU NOTICE THAT BWIAN? I have learnt Confucianism's honouring of our elders and ancestors.  I have learnt the Arabic ideas of hospitality.   I have learnt how to cook a mean Vietnamese/Indian style of curry.   They have learnt from me, how to be a larriken, how to have fun, how to study and how to protest about things which are wrong, Soren. LOL...  YOU ARE A FOOL BWIAN. AUSTRALIA HAS DEVELOPED A CULTURE AND A VERY GOOD CULTURE, I WOULD RATHER BE AUSTRALIAN THAN ANY OTHER NATIONALITY I CAN THINK OF BWIAN.  FEEL FREE TO MIGRATE.  I'M SURE THAT WOULD MAKE MANY HAPPY. To you, it must always be in one direction when in reality the learning process, the assimilation is a two way street.   We all learn from one another.    IF YOU COME HERE TO AUSTRALIA BWIAN YOU COME HERE TO BE AUSTRALIAN.  NOT SOME OTHER NATIONALITY BWIAN. I have learnt to appreciate Italian/Greek/French/Danish/German/Hungarian/Turkish/Lebanese/Iraqi/Iranian/Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan/Malaysia/Chinese/Vietnamese/Japanese/Korean styles of cooking and cuisine, Soren.    I have taught people how to do a fine BBQ, how to appreciate fine wines and beers.   You focus too much on how inferior all those cultures are, yet you do not appreciate if they are inferior, then they can learn from your and you're representation of  your supposedly superior culture.   If it is learning how to hate, denigrate and disparage people, that is.    ::) I DON'T THINK IN TERMS OF INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR BWIAN, IT'S REALLY NOT THE AUSTRALIAN WAY.  PITY YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED THAT YET.  I DON'T CRINGE ABOUT MY COUNTRY OR ITS PEOPLE... UNLIKE YOU BWIAN. I DON'T DENY WE HAVE A UNIQUE CULTURE BWIAN.  I DON'T MAKE RIDICULOUS STEREOTYPES LIKE YOU DO EITHER. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO COOK FOOD FROM OTHER COUNTRIES...  BUY A RECIPE BOOK...  NO MIGRATION REQUIRED.  NOR DO WE NEED TO IMPORT PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD TODAY TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND OTHER NATIONALITIES AND THEIR CULTURES. YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU DO NOT VALUE OUR CULTURE AS MUCH AS YOU VALUE EVERYONE ELSES.  THAT IS SAD AND PATHETIC.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 9:51am: You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library. Except, Soren, how will they learn about your culture, with its hatred and disparaging of all other cultures? It is better to have some members of each culture, so it is possible to experience/question them directly, Soren.   Your hatred just sounds like the cries of a despondent Gull out on the Ocean, crying for it's mate.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) Quote: And I don't see the Indians, Africans, Arabs and Chinese intermixing with each other. We know you don't get out much, Soren.   Time you went out and intermixed with the rest of Australian society.    ::)

There wouldn't BE efnik ghettos if they  intermixed, Bwian. The Chinese have even greater horror of the Arabs and Africans than you have of Australians or anyone who is not as blinkered and lost for an argument as you, Bwian.

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 12:49pm: Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 9:51am: You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library. Except, Soren, how will they learn about your culture, with its hatred and disparaging of all other cultures? It is better to have some members of each culture, so it is possible to experience/question them directly, Soren.   Your hatred just sounds like the cries of a despondent Gull out on the Ocean, crying for it's mate.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) Quote: And I don't see the Indians, Africans, Arabs and Chinese intermixing with each other. We know you don't get out much, Soren.   Time you went out and intermixed with the rest of Australian society.    ::) There wouldn't BE efnik ghettos if they  intermixed, Bwian. The Chinese have even greater horror of the Arabs and Africans than you have of Australians or anyone who is not as blinkered and lost for an argument as you, Bwian.

You of course, with all your European experience, realise just how insulting the use of the word, "Ghetto" is, don't you, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, such a man of compassion, such a man of understanding, such a man of hatred, such a creature of bigotry.

So-called "ghettos" exist downunder through the choice of the inhabitants.  They are not forced to live there, they are no prevented from leaving.   Guess what happens after the second or third generation, dowunder, Soren?   They leave, their economic aspirations overcome their desire for community.   Their children grow richer, more affluent and they move out, to the grander, bigger houses, the suburbs where most people ignore what their "race" is and what their culture maybe and instead check out what type and sort of car they drive, where their kids go to school and sort of dinner parties they hold.

What I find remarkable is that people like you, Soren are the ones who constantly deride Australian society for it's lack of caring for the elderly, its lack of interest in extended family life and here we have migrants displaying the exact reverse - true community spirit and you attack them for it.   Could it because you're not a part of it, so you're jealous of their good fortune?   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 3:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 12:49pm: Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 9:51am: You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library. Except, Soren, how will they learn about your culture, with its hatred and disparaging of all other cultures? It is better to have some members of each culture, so it is possible to experience/question them directly, Soren.   Your hatred just sounds like the cries of a despondent Gull out on the Ocean, crying for it's mate.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) Quote: And I don't see the Indians, Africans, Arabs and Chinese intermixing with each other. We know you don't get out much, Soren.   Time you went out and intermixed with the rest of Australian society.    ::) There wouldn't BE efnik ghettos if they  intermixed, Bwian. The Chinese have even greater horror of the Arabs and Africans than you have of Australians or anyone who is not as blinkered and lost for an argument as you, Bwian. You of course, with all your European experience, realise just how insulting the use of the word, "Ghetto" is, don't you, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, such a man of compassion, such a man of understanding, such a man of hatred, such a creature of bigotry. So-called "ghettos" exist downunder through the choice of the inhabitants.  They are not forced to live there, they are no prevented from leaving.   Guess what happens after the second or third generation, dowunder, Soren?   They leave, their economic aspirations overcome their desire for community.   Their children grow richer, more affluent and they move out, to the grander, bigger houses, the suburbs where most people ignore what their "race" is and what their culture maybe and instead check out what type and sort of car they drive, where their kids go to school and sort of dinner parties they hold. What I find remarkable is that people like you, Soren are the ones who constantly deride Australian society for it's lack of caring for the elderly, its lack of interest in extended family life and here we have migrants displaying the exact reverse - true community spirit and you attack them for it.   Could it because you're not a part of it, so you're jealous of their good fortune?   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

European migrants have integrated. It is too early to say if thee Chinese, Africans, Arabs will. Looking at the Arabs, the second and third generation are even more Islamist than their parents.  The Chinese - if South East Asian experience is anything to go buy - never integrate.

The whole multiculturalist project (like the Refugee convention) was really only about making sure that the warring Europeans - Poles, Germans, Russians, French etc - respect each other. Extending it to completely alien, non-European cultures is pushing it too far. Same with thee refugee policy. After WWII it was never though to be a vehicle for third world immigration into the West. It was about an ideologically (artificially)  divided Europe.


It is all very well for European cultures to tolerate others, whether European or not. After all, openness is a European idea, as is multiculturalism, enlightenment, rule of law, reason, the very idea of universal brotherhood of man, etc, etc.

But these are not ideas that are at home in the Muslim, African, Chinese, Japanese, Indian minds.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2017 at 9:51am: You don't  need to import millions of exotic people to learn about their culture's. You can visit their countries, you can visit a library. Except, Soren, how will they learn about your culture, with its hatred and disparaging of all other cultures? It is better to have some members of each culture, so it is possible to experience/question them directly, Soren.

This is the most ridiculous 'thought' [outrageous exaggeration in your case most of the time] bubble in support of MILLIONS of cultural aliens to be imported into ANY country.

Bwian suffers from that LW prog disease called CULTURAL CRINGE.
He has problems with the Australian Culture and Australians... 

He doesn't believe we have a culture of our own and what there is of one he admits to is negative stereotypes.

He is a sad case... aren't you bwian.

He will never be able to provide a list of cultural enrichments no matter how often he is asked.

He will avoid ignore and obfuscate...  he will flame and Troll won't you bwian because that is all you are good for...  you cant engage in real debate about the topic at hand can you. :D :D :D :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 8:35pm: Western culture, being big on freedom, is rich and fascinating and diverse. Third world superstitions and mad and evil cultural practices do not enhance it at all. They degrade it. Do they?  And why cannot they learn those aspects and respect them, Soren?    Different cultures for different people in different environments.   Simples, really.    ::)

Adding dogshit to high culture has no positive effect, Bwian.

It's just adding crap.

There is simply nothing about any third world culture that enhances Western civilisation in any way. Nothing.

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2017 at 8:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Frank wrote on Dec 9th, 2017 at 8:35pm: Western culture, being big on freedom, is rich and fascinating and diverse. Third world superstitions and mad and evil cultural practices do not enhance it at all. They degrade it. Do they?  And why cannot they learn those aspects and respect them, Soren?    Different cultures for different people in different environments.   Simples, really.    ::) Adding dogshit to high culture has no positive effect, Bwian. It's just adding crap. There is simply nothing about any third world culture that enhances Western civilisation in any way. Nothing.

And therefore the reverse is true as well, hey, Soren?  There "simply nothing" about Western culture that "enhances" "any third world culture" "in any way", right?   Absolutely nothing?   Tsk, tsk, Soren.    ::)