Apparently, so an email to me said.

Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore.

Silence around ongoing matters are all about Chinese spy ships in Australia's water ... and/or Japanese Whaling Ships?

ASs now fly in on dodgy 457 type visas, quicker safer surer than boats.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:23pm:

Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore.

Sure, but Labor and the Greens will reverse that situation as soon as possible, and they'll do it with UN, ABC, and SBS approval.

issuevoter wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:41pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:23pm: Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore. Sure, but Labor and the Greens will reverse that situation as soon as possible, and they'll do it with UN, ABC, and SBS approval.

You are joking.

Nobody wants a flood of boats again, least of all Labor.

Try thinking.

They're all wrecked on the shores of Maniac Island and Nauru....

Actually that's a lie - THIS government PAID the skippers to run them home again after they dumped their human cargo ON those islands..... since those skippers had NOT breached Australian sovereignty by getting into Australian waters, they were given a free passage home, money and fuel and supplies, to do it again...

H..E..L..L..O!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:48pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:41pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:23pm: Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore. Sure, but Labor and the Greens will reverse that situation as soon as possible, and they'll do it with UN, ABC, and SBS approval. You are joking. Nobody wants a flood of boats again, least of all Labor. Try thinking.

It's nonsense.  All that would happen is that those who arrived here would be processed here and not elsewhere.... the only issue is whether they will be allowed, if accepted as refugees, to stay here or be sent elsewhere to some contracted nation.

There is essentially NO difference between onshore and offshore processing of refugees in law and under Australian regulations.... the current situation of saying that if you even try to arrive here by boat you will never be allowed to live here is an aberration.... and a propaganda piece for the gullible who actually believe this will stem the flow of refugees, the majority of whom arrive here by other forms of transport.

Mad Man Monis flew here - he was accepted and given citizenship.....

H....E...L....L...O!!

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:23pm:

Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore.

Incorrect.

It's still a problem.

Given lack of transparency, we wouldn't know if boats arrived or not.  "operation matters".

If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings.

They are still coming.

BEWARE!!!  TAKE CARE!!!!  ON GUARD!!!!!

Bull S.'s TOP priority is to RESTART the BOATS and to send ELECTRICITY PRICES thru the ROOF!!!!!

Bull S. would have to form the worst "govt" in Australia's history with the vile Greenies and they would demand Bull S. Restarts the Boats just like before in the six sick years of Labor's waste and disgrace.

Bull S. will turn our peaceful cities into ISIS terrorist horrors just like London by bringing ISIS terrorists into Australia by the boat load!!!

This time they won't bother with Illegal Invader Prisons, they will release the illegal ISIS Invaders straight into the community bombs, guns, knives, and all!!!!!!!

Will YOU be the first to get blown up by a bomb set off by an ISIS terrorist brought into Australia by LABOR?????

And Bull S. with his election losing 50% renewable rubbish will make Electricity SO EXPENSIVE that pensioners will die during winter as they cannot afford to turn on the heater!!!!


FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY and to SAVE OUR PENSIONERS DO NOT EVER VOTE FOR LABOR!!!!! 

The corrupt union controlled LABOR is EVIL and ANTI AUSTRALIAN!!!!

Vic wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming.

Indeed, they are.

Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all.

juliar wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:10am:

BEWARE!!!  TAKE CARE!!!!  ON GUARD!!!!! Bull S.'s TOP priority is to RESTART the BOATS and to send ELECTRICITY PRICES thru the ROOF!!!!! Bull S. would have to form the worst "govt" in Australia's history with the vile Greenies and they would demand Bull S. Restarts the Boats just like before in the six sick years of Labor's waste and disgrace. Bull S. will turn our peaceful cities into ISIS terrorist horrors just like London by bringing ISIS terrorists into Australia by the boat load!!! This time they won't bother with Illegal Invader Prisons, they will release the illegal ISIS Invaders straight into the community bombs, guns, knives, and all!!!!!!! Will YOU be the first to get blown up by a bomb set off by an ISIS terrorist brought into Australia by LABOR????? And Bull S. with his election losing 50% renewable rubbish will make Electricity SO EXPENSIVE that pensioners will die during winter as they cannot afford to turn on the heater!!!! FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY and to SAVE OUR PENSIONERS DO NOT EVER VOTE FOR LABOR!!!!!  The corrupt union controlled LABOR is EVIL and ANTI AUSTRALIAN!!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

This is what juliar and his corrupt and incompetent Liberal Party puppet masters want for Australia.

ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'(

but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :)

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :)

Man Monis:

Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:23am:

cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

funny he was a muslims as well....are you saying he should  not have been allowed in because he was a Muslim???  really..... :) :)

when did you change your mind on that gweggy?

it almost sounds ANTI Muslim.. ;D ;D

btw gweggy stop trying to change the topic...

you know how that upsets some folk.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:23am:

cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia, I like the cut of your jib, fkkhead.


Because it does not matter whether they come by boat or plane, whether they are immigrants or refugees; they are muslims and therefore they are ALL potential terrorists and the safety of Australia is paramount, wouldn't you agree?

Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:17am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all.

Gregg is now a conspiracy loon as well.  Or is this a repeat of your previous dishonesty when on examination you were referring to boats on the other side of the world in the Mediterranean?

At the height of Labors porous borders nearly a boat a day of country shoppers were washing up, if you think this is still happening you can join it-is-the-light in the corner for cretins and fantasists. 

Thanks to labors policies of never ever settle in Australia and tow backs those days are long gone, and I am confident labor having a better memory than is evidenced above will not allow those days to return.

Labor in government know what an electoral liability unknown, unvetted and uninvited country shoppers are. 

Either way you lose.

NLP: Good for stopping boats, bad for environmental efforts.
ALP: Good for environmental efforts, bad for stopping 'illegal' immigration.

True Jas. On the other hand, you can only hope future governments don't allow dogma to get in the way of keeping/bringing in policy that obviously works.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 12:41am:

There is essentially NO difference between onshore and offshore processing of refugees in law and under Australian regulations.... the current situation of saying that if you even try to arrive here by boat you will never be allowed to live here is an aberration.... and a propaganda piece for the gullible who actually believe this will stem the flow of refugees, the majority of whom arrive here by other forms of transport.

*sings * Short memory must have a...

Actually it has stemmed or more accurately completely stopped country shoppers washing up on the beaches. 

As for the no difference, there is a difference, the country shoppers who arrives by plane can be put on a plane and returned.

The country shoppers who wash up are impossible to get rid of, no bastard wants them even the countries they purport to come from. 

Face it the open borders experiment was tried and the Australian electorate said no, if you think this was an aberration lobby the next labor government to lose control of the borders again and see how you go. 

I suspect they are more interested in gaining and retaining government than pandering to open borders one world advocates.

Would YOU like to get blown up by a terrorist bomb set off by an ISIS terrorist brought into Australia by LABOR?????

Cause that's what LABOR would do for you as they turned our peaceful cities into terrorist horrors like London where they let everyman and his dog in.

BEWARE!!!!   Bull S.'s TOP PRIORITY is to RESTART THE BOATS!!!   LABOR is EVIL and anti Australian!!!!

NLP: The bad guys who do a really good job
ALP: The good guys who do a really bad job

:-?

There are Labor proponents that think applauding the Liberal Party's turn-back policy is the same as applauding the Liberal Party's overall immigration policy. Both sides of parliament are a disgrace when it comes to the continual, unmandated flooding of Australia with rapists, terrorists and welfare-devouring non-conformists. When it comes to pressuring the government to act on the disaster of rampant multiculturalism, we have to fix the easiest, most obvious problems first. Now, let the real debate begin.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:01am:

Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster...

Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated.

How do you know?

There is an unlimited supply of people who would come to Australia.  We either have an open border policy and let them all in or control our borders

Vic wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:47am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know?

Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention?

I'm likely to as it can be independantly verified.

If that can be interpreted as a 'yes', than would you agree that that is evidence that less boats are reaching the mainland?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:04am:

If that can be interpreted as a 'yes', than would you agree that that is evidence that less boats are reaching the mainland?

How did you miss the very deliberate inclusion of the words "can be independantly verified?"

How did you miss the words, ' Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in offshore detention?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:10am:

How did you miss the words, ' Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in offshore detention?

To which I answered:


Quote:

I'm likely to as it can be independantly verified.

If you can't give a straight answer, then nor shall I.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:48pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:41pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:23pm: Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore. Sure, but Labor and the Greens will reverse that situation as soon as possible, and they'll do it with UN, ABC, and SBS approval. You are joking. Nobody wants a flood of boats again, least of all Labor. Try thinking.

I said that when Rudd won the election from Howard, when it became clear the latter had no chance of winning, that the boats would start coming again in droves. I was, sadly, right. I'd bet my last $1 that if Shorten becomes our next PM, the boats will recommence as surely as night follows day. People smugglers know that Labor is as weak as piss on this issue and are waiting for a change of government.

cods wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. funny he was a muslims as well....are you saying he should  not have been allowed in because he was a Muslim???  really.....

No.

I'm saying he should not have been let in because he had a warrant out for his arrest in Iran.

Despite this, the Liberal Party flew him into Australia, granted him refugee status, made him an Australian citizen, and then sat by and did nothing while he murdered an innocent person.

The same Liberal Party you voted for, by the way.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia

No.

I didn't mention religion.

You're seeing things.

The gecko is on IGNORE.

juliar wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

Would YOU like to get blown up by a terrorist bomb set off by an ISIS terrorist brought into Australia by LABOR?????

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

This is what juliar and his corrupt and incompetent Liberal Party puppet masters want for Australia.

juliar has blood on his hands.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia No. I didn't mention religion. You're seeing things.

Your little mate man monis did, the whole time he was killing innocent Australians as had every other filthy fkkking terrorist in this country for the past 5 years.


Just because you are too gutless to say it, doesn't mean the rest of us are.  :) :) :)


How else are we going to identify potential terrorists if we don't use some sort of metric?

You want to reject potential terrorists from entering this country,  right?

How would you identify them BEFORE they start killing innocent Australians?


Or are you just all horse sh1t and lies?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention?

No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:35am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia No. I didn't mention religion. You're seeing things. Your little mate man monis ...

Not mine, yours.

Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party.

The same party you vote for.

You have blood on your hands, apologist.

Vic wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:42am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps

Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:49am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:42am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010?

Impossible to tell.

The Turnbull Government has a history of deceit, lies, and corruption.

All we know for sure is, reported numbers are down.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:46am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:35am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia No. I didn't mention religion. You're seeing things. Your little mate man monis ... Not mine, yours. Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. The same party you vote for. You have blood on your hands, apologist.

I am sure that in the few times I have voted I have NEVER voted liberal, I fkken can't stand the pricks.


Can't fkken help your lying can you? It is everything you say and believe, isn't it?


Why have you deleted my questions, bit hard to look at are they?

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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:26am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:48pm: issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:41pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:23pm: Apparently, so an email to me said. Still, whether it is strictly correct or not, it ain't a problem anymore. Sure, but Labor and the Greens will reverse that situation as soon as possible, and they'll do it with UN, ABC, and SBS approval. You are joking. Nobody wants a flood of boats again, least of all Labor. Try thinking. I said that when Rudd won the election from Howard, when it became clear the latter had no chance of winning, that the boats would start coming again in droves. I was, sadly, right. I'd bet my last $1 that if Shorten becomes our next PM, the boats will recommence as surely as night follows day. People smugglers know that Labor is as weak as piss on this issue and are waiting for a change of government.

that'ld be to horrible to think

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:49am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:42am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010?

Yes - that is true.   But to say the boats have stopped is not correct.    Also, because the Government put on embargo on independent people like Doctors and Nurses etc at Asylum Centres speaking out, we really have no idea what the numbers are.      

We are still spending millions of dollars a year keeping a large military presence - mainly Navy ships, Patrol Boats and Customs Vessels - around the northern seas.  If the boats were no longer coning, they wouldn't be there.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:56am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:49am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:42am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010? Impossible to tell. The Turnbull Government has a history of deceit, lies, and corruption. All we know for sure is, reported numbers are down.

Where are all these undisclosed boat people? Hiding in broom closets?

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:46am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:35am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia No. I didn't mention religion. You're seeing things. Your little mate man monis ... Not mine, yours. Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. The same party you vote for. You have blood on your hands, apologist. I am sure that in the few times I have voted I have NEVER voted liberal, I fkken can't stand the pricks.

Who do you put last on the ballot paper: Labor or Liberal?

Vic wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:49am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:42am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010? Yes - that is true.   But to say the boats have stopped is not correct.    Also, because the Government put on embargo on independent people like Doctors and Nurses etc at Asylum Centres speaking out, we really have no idea what the numbers are.       We are still spending millions of dollars a year keeping a large military presence - mainly Navy ships, Patrol Boats and Customs Vessels - around the northern seas.  If the boats were no longer coning, they wouldn't be there.

That is not even close to being logical

The boats may not be coming to Australia because the navy & border force are patrolling the northern seas.


It like saying we have no enemies, therefore we should disband the ADF, we have the ADF regardless of perceived enemy presence.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:46am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:35am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:23am: cods wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:22am: ahhhh gweggy is so disappointed... :'( :'( but he will cheer up when his messiah gets in he will bring them all back... :) Man Monis: Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. So ALL muslim immigration and refugees should be stopped from entering Australia No. I didn't mention religion. You're seeing things. Your little mate man monis ... Not mine, yours. Flew to Australia (in a plane, not a boat), was granted refugee status, then given Australian citizenship, then carried out a terrorist attack and murdered an innocent person ... ALL under the Liberal Party. The same party you vote for. You have blood on your hands, apologist. I am sure that in the few times I have voted I have NEVER voted liberal, I fkken can't stand the pricks. Who do you put last on the ballot paper: Labor or Liberal?

When I vote I always put the greens last. Fkken hate them most of all.


I have voted labor, Im pretty sure I have never voted liberal.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 11:04am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 11:00am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:49am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:42am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 9:01am: Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. Detention centres are gradually emptying out. The Liberal government has all but snuffed-out the people-smuggling/advocacy lawyer racket. Rejoice Australians in a job well done! Now to the business of fixing Australia's overall immigration disaster... Whether boats are still attempting to reach Australian waters is beside the point. Boats aren't reaching the Australian coastline. Drownings in Australian waters have been all but eliminated. How do you know? Do you agree with the government's figures on how many 'boat people' are in off-shore detention? No, because that figure has been disputed by a number of sources.   Maybe not all reliable but a number that should throw reasonable doubt on Government figures.    Do you know, for instance, how many asylum seekers are held in the detention centre at Defence Estate Berrimah in Darwin?   Government will tell you none - but they are there everyday looking through the shade cloth up against the chain wire  fence for all and sundry to see.   Next to that detention centre are 16 or so orange life boats that Abbot bought for $265K each and are hidden under tarps Do you agree at least, that the numbers of people in detention has drastically reduced from the high watermark of circa 2010? Yes - that is true.   But to say the boats have stopped is not correct.    Also, because the Government put on embargo on independent people like Doctors and Nurses etc at Asylum Centres speaking out, we really have no idea what the numbers are.       We are still spending millions of dollars a year keeping a large military presence - mainly Navy ships, Patrol Boats and Customs Vessels - around the northern seas.  If the boats were no longer coning, they wouldn't be there. That is not even close to being logical The boats may not be coming to Australia because the navy & border force are patrolling the northern seas. It like saying we have no enemies, therefore we should disband the ADF, we have the ADF regardless of perceived enemy presence.

No, it is not saying that at all.   The only reason we have a large sea going military force between Christmas Island to Darwin is mainly preventing  Asylum Seeker boats reaching points in Australia to allow a claim for asylum.   .  Has that presence stopped the boats was the OP.    Frankly we don't know because there is no political discussion allowed of the operational side of Operation Sovereign Borders     Perceived enemy presence has nothing to do with it - if it did, we would have had that sea going presence there for decades with it's outcomes known - just as they are in the Middle East Area of Ops.      Even the Government itself assigns capabilities to Operation Sovereign Borders, and that Operation is open in it's intent - it is just the final outcome is not known.

If you agree that the numbers of boat people in detention has drastically reduced then you must, by virtue agree that the number of boat people reaching the mainland has drastically reduced. I have no doubt people smugglers are still trying to back-door their way into Australia. At the same time, I have no doubt they are being turned back. That's what I voted for.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

If you agree that the numbers of boat people in detention has drastically reduced then you must, by virtue agree that the number of boat people reaching the mainland has drastically reduced. I have no doubt people smugglers are still trying to back-door their way into Australia. At the same time, I have no doubt they are being turned back. That's what I voted for.

Ahhh.. but we were discussing  "off-shore detention" - and not all asylum seekers that are detained end up in "off shore detention!    Most are taken to Christmas Island for initial processing then farmed off else where.  Some even end up - as I stated - in the centre at Defence Estate Berrimah.    Christmas Island is full as a boot now so they have to go somewhere 

We have no idea what the actual arrivals number is because the Government will not release the figures.  The only things that limit refugees are the weather conditions to get to Australia, the factors that cause them to be displaced from their country and the veracity of the border protection.    They still have to go somewhere when they end up in the hands of border protection

The OP is a moot point anyway - 3 years - No Boats - how can that be either proven or disproved?

A government is indulging in rhetoric! Well, I never! Rather than get bogged down in semantics, just ask yourself two questions.
1. Have boat turnbacks reduced the number of drownings in Australian waters?
2. Have boat turnbacks reduced the number of men, women and children in detention?
If you answer these questions in th affirmative, then obviously the Liberal Party's policy is a success.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

1. Have boat turnbacks reduced the number of drownings

No.

In Australian waters? Yes.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:15pm:

In Australian waters? Yes.

How does that make any difference whatsoever?

Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"?

Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:15pm: In Australian waters? Yes. How does that make any difference whatsoever? Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"? Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you?

Just stating a fact muppet.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:15pm: In Australian waters? Yes. How does that make any difference whatsoever? Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"? Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you? Just stating a fact muppet.

You disgust me.

What sort of sick fvkk gets his jollies from seeing innocent kids drown?

I'm not a globalist. As an Australian, I expect our government to make responsible policy decisions in our best interests. If other weak-arsed countries are ofay with human flotsam washing up on their beaches; that's their problem.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

I'm not a globalist. As an Australian, I expect our government to make responsible policy decisions in our best interests. If other weak-arsed countries are ofay with human flotsam washing up on their beaches; that's their problem.

Even if it is a result of activity of our Pirate Navy?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:15pm: In Australian waters? Yes. How does that make any difference whatsoever? Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"? Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you? Just stating a fact muppet. You disgust me. What sort of sick fvkk gets his jollies from seeing innocent kids drown?

listen to yourself getting all high and mighty. you're probably the nastiest prick on the forum.

You could stop the boats with one simple act of parliment and a simple statement to all wannabe parasites.

FROM THIS DAY FORWARD.
ALL IMMIGRANTS WILL NOT BE GIVEN ANY WELFARE.
ALL IMMIGRANTS WILL WORK OR LEAVE.
ALL IMIGRANTS WILL ASSIMILATE OR LEAVE.
IF ANY IMMIGRANT COMMITS ANY CRIME WHAT SO EVER, THEY WILL BE EXPELLED.

Simple eh?
Watch the boats stop then.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:15pm: In Australian waters? Yes. How does that make any difference whatsoever? Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"? Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you? Just stating a fact muppet. You disgust me. What sort of sick fvkk gets his jollies from seeing innocent kids drown? listen to yourself getting all high and mighty. you're probably the nastiest prick on the forum.

I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

I certainly don't get my kicks from seeing innocent kids drown.

You and Hammer should be ashamed of yourselves, but we all know you won't be.

Sociopaths don't do shame.

Valkie wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

You could stop the boats with one simple act of parliment and a simple statement to all wannabe parasites. FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. ALL IMMIGRANTS WILL NOT BE GIVEN ANY WELFARE. ALL IMMIGRANTS WILL WORK OR LEAVE. ALL IMIGRANTS WILL ASSIMILATE OR LEAVE. IF ANY IMMIGRANT COMMITS ANY CRIME WHAT SO EVER, THEY WILL BE EXPELLED. Simple eh? Watch the boats stop then.

Most immigrants come by plane.

Your astounding ignorance has been duly noted, though.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:15pm: In Australian waters? Yes. How does that make any difference whatsoever? Are you saying you don't mind innocent children drowning, as long as it's not in "Australian waters"? Jesus Christ, what sort of disgusting fvkking animal are you? Just stating a fact muppet. You disgust me. What sort of sick fvkk gets his jollies from seeing innocent kids drown? listen to yourself getting all high and mighty. you're probably the nastiest prick on the forum.

Pecca is about to cum all over himself in a minute culture.

Keep turning back the boats and processing detainees until the detention centres are empty.

Crack down on visa over-stayers and people who are deemed unfit residents. Deport them sooner rather than later.

Cease all immigration from countries where the cultures are incompatible with our own; namely the countries of northern Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Keep turning back the boats and processing detainees until the detention centres are empty. Crack down on visa over-stayers and people who are deemed unfit residents. Deport them sooner rather than later. Cease all immigration from countries where the cultures are incompatible with our own; namely the countries of northern Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor.

Thats the way.

All imigrants regardless of the mode of travel must
Contribute.
Pay tax
Work
Assimilate
Be honest citizens.

Give them a 5 year probation,
If they are good, they get to stay.
If they dont meet the rules, kick them out, no exceptions.

Actually,
a 'few' boats still turn up in Australian waters.
Not many, compared to before.
But a few do.

...and they quietly 'disappear'.
Nothing mentioned in Media.
No representation.
It's almost like the Bermuda Triangle out there now.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Keep turning back the boats and processing detainees until the detention centres are empty. Crack down on visa over-stayers and people who are deemed unfit residents. Deport them sooner rather than later. Cease all immigration from countries where the cultures are incompatible with our own; namely the countries of northern Africa, the Middle East and Asia Minor.

X 2

these are is all sensible ideas.

When was the last terrorist attack from a refugee landed in Labours tenure ?

Its time wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:

When was the last terrorist attack from a refugee landed in Labours tenure ?

When the last attempt was.

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Its time wrote on Jul 29th, 2017 at 9:34pm: When was the last terrorist attack from a refugee landed in Labours tenure ? When the last attempt was.

How many terrorist attacks occured in Labors tenure ?

Jasin wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Actually, a 'few' boats still turn up in Australian waters. Not many, compared to before. But a few do. ...and they quietly 'disappear'. Nothing mentioned in Media. No representation. It's almost like the Bermuda Triangle out there now.

Absolute nonsense. The Australian government does not have omnipotent powers you clown.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:17am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all.

:( Sad.

Our govt is afraid for us , the people who put them in power, and are afraid OF us,  knowing what is really happening.
HOW WOULD WE KNOW if there are boats or not?
THE GOVT HAS PUT LAWS in place to prevent us knowing the truth.

That says it all doesn't it.? >:( .

Emma - The current govts policies on illegals is a massive victory.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 8:17am:

Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all.

Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D

I like the idea that the Liberal Party is soooo scawy that not one doctor, food service worker, cleaner, security guard  etc has dared to mention the 'real' number of detainees for fear of big, bad Peter Dutton coming around their houses with a couple of  stuffed suits with knuckledusters. The world's best kept secret!

i know what will stop.

After Labor is elected Gregg and the luvvies claiming secret prison camps and complaining about drownings in the Mediterranean.   :D  :D

Re: 3 years - no boats

P&O must be devastated.

Re: 3 years no boats.
The luvvies ARE devastated.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 6:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!!

Yes, that's right.

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:59am:

i know what will stop. After Labor is elected Gregg and the luvvies claiming secret prison camps and complaining about drownings in the Mediterranean.   :D  :D

Shhhhh .. not so loud.... you'll hold back the reclamation of the Great Interior by a five year plan if you let THAT cat out of the bag....

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:16am:

I like the idea that the Liberal Party is soooo scawy that not one doctor, food service worker, cleaner, security guard  etc has dared to mention the 'real' number of detainees for fear of big, bad Peter Dutton coming around their houses with a couple of  stuffed suits with knuckledusters. The world's best kept secret!

You are quite correct there Mr H.

Those working in Australia's detention centres are now forbidden under threat of jail time from revealing information to anyone about anything they come across while doing their jobs, write Greg Barns and George Newhouse.

Seven days ago, a new Commonwealth law came into force. Called the Australian Border Force Act 2015, this legislation will have far-reaching and disturbing consequences for the scrutiny of immigration detention centres and the treatment of asylum seekers by the media, professional groups, international human rights bodies and NGOs.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:59am:

i know what will stop. After Labor is elected Gregg and the luvvies claiming secret prison camps and complaining about drownings in the Mediterranean.   :D  :D

I wonder who'll Labor will istall to be  the next Gillian Triggs to tell us how compassionate Australia is the day after Shorten is elected.

Vic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 7:16am: I like the idea that the Liberal Party is soooo scawy that not one doctor, food service worker, cleaner, security guard  etc has dared to mention the 'real' number of detainees for fear of big, bad Peter Dutton coming around their houses with a couple of  stuffed suits with knuckledusters. The world's best kept secret! You are quite correct there Mr H. Those working in Australia's detention centres are now forbidden under threat of jail time from revealing information to anyone about anything they come across while doing their jobs, write Greg Barns and George Newhouse. Seven days ago, a new Commonwealth law came into force. Called the Australian Border Force Act 2015, this legislation will have far-reaching and disturbing consequences for the scrutiny of immigration detention centres and the treatment of asylum seekers by the media, professional groups, international human rights bodies and NGOs. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086

As I posted, 'Australia's best kept secret'.
;)

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 6:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D

I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped?

The ole, 'Where there's no smoke, there must be a conspiracy'.

Vic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped?

Lets say the boats are still arriving in the hundreds as the conspiracy theorist states.


Where the fkk are all the reffos?


Surely even the idiot s greens would have found the thousands of reffos sitting in the camps.


The problem with conspiracies, they don't stand up to even a cursory analysis. Some dopey gurd somewhere would have facebooked or instagramed some stupid remark or selfie, or the cretins in the greens would have found a line item in the budget for a few billion dollars for 'camp accommodation'


The libs are just not that smart.


Just as the socialist apologist like to say after every muslim terrorist attack "Nothing to see here, folks"

You'd think so, eh Big? The KGB under Stalin couldn't even supress state secrets but the tyranny of big, bad Malcolm Turnbull has everyone staining their jockies.
;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

You'd think so, eh Big? The KGB under Stalin couldn't even supress state secrets but the tyranny of big, bad Malcolm Turnbull has everyone staining their jockies. ;D ;D ;D

If the conspiracy theorist are to be believed.  :) :)

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

Vic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped? Lets say the boats are still arriving in the hundreds as the conspiracy theorist states. Where the fkk are all the reffos?

Unfortunately, they're probably at the bottom of the ocean.

As long as it's not our ocean.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:27am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:11am: Vic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped? Lets say the boats are still arriving in the hundreds as the conspiracy theorist states. Where the fkk are all the reffos? Unfortunately, they're probably at the bottom of the ocean.

Are you implying that our navy has something to do with this

If we just take two steps back from the topic and have a think and a different perspective.

No one in Australia except the most retarded politically correct left wing people deny that the Libs fixed the problem with boats.

Even some retarded politically correct people can concede that the Libs got it right .

There is still a chance that a few cancer cells in the labor and green coalition will want to throw the borders open again.
Never mind what they say before an election, their actions have spoken  before.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:27am: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:11am: Vic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped? Lets say the boats are still arriving in the hundreds as the conspiracy theorist states. Where the fkk are all the reffos? Unfortunately, they're probably at the bottom of the ocean. Are you implying that our navy has something to do with this

It wouldn't surprise me.

"The federal government is under pressure to respond to reports Australian navy personnel fired shots as part of an operation to turn around a boat carrying asylum seekers from Indonesia."  2014

"Australian Prime Minister Howard’s determination to keep anti-refugee demagogy at centre stage in the campaign for the November 10 federal election plumbed new depths this week when the government ordered a naval warship to open fire on an asylum seekers’ boat floundering in the Indian Ocean."   2001

Oh dear.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:20am:

Emma - The current govts policies on illegals is a massive victory.

It's not illegal to seek asylum.

Your astounding ignorance has been duly noted.

"The Coalition has applied a media blackout on regular reporting of asylum seeker arrivals and the actions of Australian authorities with a gag extending to rescuers at the Australian Maritime Safety Authority."

miketrees wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:56am:

If we just take two steps back from the topic and have a think and a different perspective. No one in Australia except the most retarded politically correct left wing people deny that the Libs fixed the problem with boats. Even some retarded politically correct people can concede that the Libs got it right . There is still a chance that a few cancer cells in the labor and green coalition will want to throw the borders open again. Never mind what they say before an election, their actions have spoken  before.

There's no better indicator of future action than past behaviour. Of course we're going back to the Pacific seaway, bulging detention centres and mass drownings. It looks like Shorten'll get in, so we've only got ouselves to blame.

There's no better indicator of future action than past behaviour. Of course we're going back to the Pacific seaway, bulging detention centres and mass drownings. It looks like Shorten'll get in, so we've only got ourselves to blame.


The spin doctors will dress it up, rebadge it and call the pig a princess

Hudreds of these are just waiting for Labor and the Greenies to get back in and then it will be BOATS AWAY to WELFARE for LIFE in Australia!!!!!


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ox4tZnSq61c/VmKtNWMu8FI/AAAAAAAACNU/XfPQJRUJjdI/s1600/IMG_9726a.jpg

On yer marks, get set, GO and ILLEGALLY INVADE AUSTRALIA with LABOR's help!!!!

miketrees wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:56am:

If we just take two steps back from the topic and have a think and a different perspective. No one in Australia except the most retarded politically correct left wing people deny that the Libs fixed the problem with boats. Even some retarded politically correct people can concede that the Libs got it right . There is still a chance that a few cancer cells in the labor and green coalition will want to throw the borders open again. Never mind what they say before an election, their actions have spoken  before.

unfortunately, I have to agree.
I find this quite unsettling

the left have done it once, so could do it again

http://scd.rfi.fr/sites/filesrfi/imagecache/rfi_large_600_338/sites/images.rfi.fr/files/aef_image/lampedusa000_DV932008_0.jpg
They are just waiting for SHY to give the go ahead if Labor and the Greenies ever get back in for a life of free Welfare.



LABOR will MOST DEFINITEY RESTART the BOATS because the Greenies will force them to just like Bob Brown forced Juliar Gillard to open the borders and let the bombs in.

You see the Greenies are following AGENDA 2030 and the multicultural bulldust is a central theme in AGENDA 2030.

And Bull S. will HAVE to try to form the WORST "govt" in Australia's history with the gucky Greenies.


Is Bull S.'s top priority "policy" of RESTARTING the BOATS an election winner ?


Memories of the six sick years of the previous worst Krudd/Gillard/Krudd "govt" in Australia's history come flooding back.


https://jamesboard.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-boats-are-all-abbotts-fault.jpg

Vic wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped?

Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:27am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:11am: Vic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped? Lets say the boats are still arriving in the hundreds as the conspiracy theorist states. Where the fkk are all the reffos? Unfortunately, they're probably at the bottom of the ocean.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You guys are still living with the Pixies if you don't think the NLP has 'enforced' a total Media blackout on the 'Boat Operations' out there.  ::)

You have obviously FORGOTTEN how the Media, just managed to express its reluctance for a few weeks before the Black-Out.
I remember quite well how the Media at least got in the remarks on air that "the NLP will be enforcing a total Media ban on any 'illegal boat' activity (out there)."

Of course. If you disagree with this - its because you are a chicken poo in fear of ASIO coming in like the Gestapo and booting down your door.

It's no different to them kicking all the homeless people of the streets (temporarily) in Sydney and basically forcing half of the Sydney population in the 'city' area to leave for a 'holiday' with their very heavy handed and at times brutal enforcement for the visitation of some of the World's Political Leaders (they should have gone to Canberra, rather than 'sightseeing' in Sydney ...they might have actually got some 'work' done!).

There is no 'conspiracy' about this.

rhino wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

Vic wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:51am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 8:17am: Vic wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:46am: If the boats are not coming, then why do we still have 8 Armidale Patrol Boats, a FFG or Anzac Ship and two Cape Class Customs vessels still patrolling the northern region?    That's a lot of capability for no boats.   Whilst the crews are going to get paid regardless of where they are, just think of the massive cost of fuel, provisions, additional wages for being on operations, psychological issues with pulling dead bodies from the water, and a host of other taxpayer funded outgoings. They are still coming. Indeed, they are. Reporting of the boats has stopped - that's all. Oh, riiiigggghhhhhttttttt!!! So the government is so incompetent it can't stop some leaky boats, but is apparently (according to you) incredibly competent at ensuring not a single media organisation - mainstream and not - reports on a single one of those fictional boats? Just how much have you been smoking lately???  ;D ;D ;D I seem to recall your good self lauding Scott Morrison and the cross eyed Lt General who dropped the reporting of boat arrivals down to weekly, then stopped them all together for "operational reasons"    Perhaps that explains the lack of reporting rather than the fact the boats may or may not have stopped? Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously?

Not the media, your brain dead shovel-wielding nincompoop.

The government.

They've admitted it.

Pecker doesn't need proof. An intellect as immense as his just needs  to stick it's nose in the brreze.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Pecker doesn't need proof.

The government has openly admitted that they don't report on the boats.

Are you disputing this fact, Homo?

Yay

rhino wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously?

The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way.

Put the gecko on IGNORE.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way.

Conspiracy theorists :)

Dnarever wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way.

The Indonesian and Australian media have.

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :)

These people are b atsht nuts.

rhino wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:21pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :) These people are b atsht nuts.

Indonesia takes great pleasure in rubbing sheet in our faces. If large numbers of boats were sinking,  we'd know.

juliar wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Put the gecko on IGNORE.

Hes like the rainman but missing the savant part.

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:21pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :) These people are b atsht nuts. Indonesia takes great pleasure in rubbing sheet in our faces. If large numbers of boats were sinking,  we'd know.

Of course, we would know if any boat sank, those people on these boats have extended family in Indonesia and abroad, its sheer lunacy to suggest that all these people would be silenced by the Australian government.

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:21pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :) These people are b atsht nuts. Indonesia takes great pleasure in rubbing sheet in our faces. If large numbers of boats were sinking,  we'd know.

Most of the time that a boat went down the Indonesians only found out when we told them.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:26pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:21pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :) These people are b atsht nuts. Indonesia takes great pleasure in rubbing sheet in our faces. If large numbers of boats were sinking,  we'd know. Most of the time that a boat went down the Indonesians only found out when we told them.

Nonsense, you just made that up.

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:21pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm: rhino wrote on Jul 30th, 2017 at 9:29pm: Do you seriously think that the worlds media are all involved in a gigantic conspiracy not to report any boats? Seriously? The worlds media has never shown any interest in reporting boats either way. Conspiracy theorists :) These people are b atsht nuts. Indonesia takes great pleasure in rubbing sheet in our faces. If large numbers of boats were sinking,  we'd know.

No, you wouldn't.

The Turnbull government is a corrupt, criminal government.

They have admitted that they don't report boats.

Are you denying these facts?