Most don’t know or don’t care. Weird.

Buy your beef from a supermarket—you are getting feedlot cattle, finished on grain (not natural) and pumped full of antibiotics because grain is not natural cattle feed and the crowding and the belly–high piles of cowshit are also not natural or healthy.

I buy beef from a place in the Adelaide Hills that feeds their cows on grass then WALKS them to the place next door which is the abattoir—no stress of a 3000Km trip in a BDouble etc. My pork comes from the farm of a woman who raises heritage breeds of pork and again, the pigs make no great journey to the abattoirs. Chickens from Saskia Beer, etc.

Healthier and much more delicious!

What about milk? Do you drink homogenised milk? “Low fat” (skim) milk? You are drinking “fvvcked up milk” because the more the milk is processed the less food value it has. I drink Paris Creek dairy organic pasteurised (used to drink the unpasteurised version, no longer available) full cream (full fat) milk. Organic milk, minimally fvvcked with. Same with yoghurt, cream etc. Eat plenty dairy, good for you. Twice my old Mum fell, once bad enough to need a trip to the emergency dept with a cut to her head. No problem, just a cut, head etc fine. Most old women—dead a few days later. Not Mum, eat cheese every single day.

Eat a lot of processed food? Salt & sugar + artifical flavors. Cut*it*out*

Buying fruit and veges from supermarkets? Meat? CUT*IT*OUT* All the food items in a s/mart are produced to look good then can be stored forever. The “Fresh Food People” do not sell Jonathon apples because Jonathans DO NOT STORE!

I am sure you can find better places to buy your food: find and support a great butcher and a great greengrocer. Really, jewels! Look for farmers markets, central markets.

I am sure you and yours will get a big boost to your health and happiness.

Oh yeah, bread!

Supermarket bread is total, flavorless crap! Find where you can find real bread. Artisanal sourdough or yeast bread, up to you. Bak.ers Imitation, nah

Chose wholemeal, not white. Try a bit of a range: barley (get that nice feeling of a knife sliding down your throat  ;D ) or oat or rye, even potato bread, why the hell not? Wholemeal has a LOT more nutrients than white, being the whole grain. Oh yeah, try volkorn some time.

Bread should have some body to it, handle coldish butter being pressed in to it: fluffy white crap just disintegrates. No guts—not fit for your guts, eh?

Organic fruit and veg much safer than supermarket crap.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

finished on grain (not natural)

Bullshit. Cattle will eat most any plant life.

Do you really think cattle in the wild wouldn't eat grain?

Just grain? And antibiotics?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Just grain? And antibiotics?

Two different statements. Your statement was grains were not natural feed.

100% grain is not natural cattle feed. Nor is high doses of antibiotics and the second follows on the first.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

100% grain is not natural cattle feed. Nor is high doses of antibiotics and the second follows on the first.

"Feeding grain to cattle is unnatural and results in negative cattle health impacts

It is easy to forget that grain is the seed of grass, hence is a natural product that cattle have been eating for millennia.   In fact cattle prefer a grain based diet. Feedlot cattle diets are developed by animal nutritionists and comprise grain (eg wheat, barley, sorghum) fibre (eg hay and silage), protein (eg sunflower and lupins), water, vitamins and minerals. Whilst cattle require a short period of time to become accustomed to a grain based diet, this process is easily managed by feedlot nutritionists and professional feedlot managers."

http://feedlots.com.au/industry/feedlot-industry/myths-fact

Oh grains are grass seeds.

Cattle don't spend all their life in feedlots, so they are not 100% grain fed.

Antibiotics follow grain feeding?  Is it cause and effect?

Have you got a peer-reviewed paper for that?

Are the grain fed beef, fed 100% grain?

So many questions. ;)

https://portal.apvma.gov.au/pubcris?p_auth=H5sUtZW7&p_p_id=pubcrisportlet_WAR_pubcrisportlet&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-1&p_p_col_pos=2&p_p_col_count=4&_pubcrisportlet_WAR_pubcrisportlet_javax.portlet.action=search



Thats a list of registered products for cattle in feedlots

Holy sh*t Mike, that is a shitload of chemicals, including antibiotics! Glad I don’t eat that rubbish! My god!

Do you know what you are putting in your mouth?


Bobby?

You dont have to use all of them

I know, but still—chemical bath!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

Holy sh*t Mike, that is a shitload of chemicals, including antibiotics! Glad I don’t eat that rubbish! My god!

Sorted by Brand Name. And they are only Veterinarian Approved. Not all feedlot products.

John Smith wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Do you know what you are putting in your mouth? Bobby?

John,
When you take the devil into your mouth you're doomed -
for he's lying their waiting for you -
inside that bottle of whisky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BocJIlRPVvU

Bobby. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

When you take the devil into your mouth you're doomed -

I'm not even going to ask what you've been up to  .... except for who's the devil? is it nails?

Gregg?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

Gregg?

And Kameel sez miam miam, no??

He does like a pussy.

However, that is kinda straying from the subject of food  :)

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Most don’t know or don’t care. Weird. Buy your beef from a supermarket—you are getting feedlot cattle, finished on grain (not natural) and pumped full of antibiotics because grain is not natural cattle feed and the crowding and the belly–high piles of cowshit are also not natural or healthy. I buy beef from a place in the Adelaide Hills that feeds their cows on grass then WALKS them to the place next door which is the abattoir—no stress of a 3000Km trip in a BDouble etc. My pork comes from the farm of a woman who raises heritage breeds of pork and again, the pigs make no great journey to the abattoirs. Chickens from Saskia Beer, etc. Healthier and much more delicious! What about milk? Do you drink homogenised milk? “Low fat” (skim) milk? You are drinking “fvvcked up milk” because the more the milk is processed the less food value it has. I drink Paris Creek dairy organic pasteurised (used to drink the unpasteurised version, no longer available) full cream (full fat) milk. Organic milk, minimally fvvcked with. Same with yoghurt, cream etc. Eat plenty dairy, good for you. Twice my old Mum fell, once bad enough to need a trip to the emergency dept with a cut to her head. No problem, just a cut, head etc fine. Most old women—dead a few days later. Not Mum, eat cheese every single day. Eat a lot of processed food? Salt & sugar + artifical flavors. Cut*it*out* Buying fruit and veges from supermarkets? Meat? CUT*IT*OUT* All the food items in a s/mart are produced to look good then can be stored forever. The “Fresh Food People” do not sell Jonathon apples because Jonathans DO NOT STORE! I am sure you can find better places to buy your food: find and support a great butcher and a great greengrocer. Really, jewels! Look for farmers markets, central markets. I am sure you and yours will get a big boost to your health and happiness.

Hey JV

Most things we eat today have many unnatural ingredients.

Maybe that's why cancer rates are so high.

When my parents where alive I asked them did they have such high cancer rates back in their day.

The answer was NO.

Their main food back then was dairy poultry greens and two or three times a year on special occasions meat.

All natural of course no chemicals.

Lots of them lived to be 100 years.

I should add fit 100 year olds.

That is why I am careful about what I eat.

Can’t do that 100%. Sometimes no choice but to eat junk food. Don’t mind a pie in winter for lunch away from home but I try to make sure it is a steak and. . . pie. A pie not made from steak you might as well consider to be made from lips and arseholes. Crudely put but true.

I have never had cancer, worst was a couple non cancerous polyps removed. Partly because I like to eat seeded bread—small seeds keep the err ahem clean and healthy. And I love bread, eat 2-3 slices mostly sourdough bread every day or in winter I like to have oat porridge for breakfast.

My fave beverage is made from grain too. Cheers!

I have some pet peeves about food.

Gluten free.

Yes, I know some people do suffer from coeliac disease. However—On Topic—a lot of this is really an allergy to the chemicals in mass produced bread.

As an aside: I had a few of these as customers at the shop. Couldn’t help them, gluten free beer kits are few and far between in Australia. Told them to malt millet and buy rice and corn malt extract.

So don’t buy your bread from the supermarket.

Don’t eat chemicals!

Soy milk is terrible stuff.

Full of “phytohormones” similar to female estrogen etc. No good!

As to rice milk, almond milk, pfffft!

Ajax wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

When my parents where alive I asked them did they have such high cancer rates back in their day. The answer was NO.

Was that because of less cancer, or less diagnoses?

I have been told “learn to read labels” but prefer to buy basic foods and build up from there.

I have been told “learn to read labels” but prefer to buy basic foods and build up from there.


The processed food industry is all about getting the cheapest ingredients and trying to make it palatable,,,, usually by adding, salt, fat, sugar or artificial flavours.


Its bloody disgusting.

Unfortunately a lot of our farmers have opted to adopt the industrial food model for their businesses.

No quality, but produce it cheaply,,,, poor bastards have very little choice

Yup.

And wash your food.

Some foods you should buy only the organically grown version, potatoes and onions. Here farmers spray the crop with Roundup™ to dry out the tops. This is where it can cause cancer.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Some foods you should buy only the organically grown version, potatoes and onions

You do know human waste is organic. Much prized in some Asian countries. ;)