Are the best.

One of the best is 'True Grit', by The Coen Brothers.

Beautiful movie.

true grit
dirty dozen
red river

and of the modern day ones,
Unforgiven

Unforgiven is a top movie.

Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake?
Does not have John Wayne in it .

Ghey.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake?

didn't know they had a remake. I'll have to see if I can find it.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:16pm: Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake? didn't know they had a remake. I'll have to see if I can find it.

It's very good.

100 times better than the John Wayne version.

On Netflix, I think.

The Wild Bunch is another good one

Apparently they're in talks with Will Smith about a remake.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

true grit dirty dozen red river and of the modern day ones, Unforgiven

That were no Cowboy movie, Heathen!

Red River?????  Any movie starring John Wayne is/was crap.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

On Netflix, I think.

I don't have netflix ......yet

My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:24pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:16pm: Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake? didn't know they had a remake. I'll have to see if I can find it. It's very good. 100 times better than the John Wayne version. On Netflix, I think.

Yeah, it's there.  Much better than the John Wayne crap version.

Hard to go past Unforgiven.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:25pm: On Netflix, I think. I don't have netflix ......yet My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix.

Ferk!  That will not improve with NBN.  Everything I read says that the NBN is worse.

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:14pm: true grit dirty dozen red river and of the modern day ones, Unforgiven That were no Cowboy movie, Heathen! Red River?????  Any movie starring John Wayne is/was crap.

Rubbish. John Wayne was my favourite Western Actor.

I hear Booby is a fan of his too, but not for his acting! :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:28pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:14pm: true grit dirty dozen red river and of the modern day ones, Unforgiven That were no Cowboy movie, Heathen! Red River?????  Any movie starring John Wayne is/was crap. Rubbish. John Wayne was my favourite Western Actor. I hear Booby is a fan of his too, but not for his acting! :D :D

John Wayne was garbage.

Worst actor ever.

I see why Booby would like him, though.

The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't too bad but I am always partial to Denzel.

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:25pm: On Netflix, I think. I don't have netflix ......yet My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix. Ferk!  That will not improve with NBN.  Everything I read says that the NBN is worse.

actually I expect it to improve greatly. I have new cable from the exchange all the way to my house, instead of to a node out on the street.

The problems usually occur when your forced to use the old cable from the node to your house.

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:25pm: On Netflix, I think. I don't have netflix ......yet My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix. Ferk!  That will not improve with NBN.  Everything I read says that the NBN is worse.

The NBN is wonderful.

In three years, I've not had a single problem with it.

Fast, reliable, and relatively cheap.

I love it!

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't too bad but I am always partial to Denzel.

It was pathetic, and so was Washington in it.  Rated poorly as well, and as could be expected.

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't too bad but I am always partial to Denzel.

nah ... wasn't a fan of the remake. And I'm a fan of Denzel

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:25pm: On Netflix, I think. I don't have netflix ......yet My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix. Ferk!  That will not improve with NBN.  Everything I read says that the NBN is worse. actually I expect it to improve greatly. I have new cable from the exchange all the way to my house, instead of to a node out on the street. The problems usually occur when your forced to use the old cable from the node to your house.

That's odd.  Fibre or copper?  Either way, if they have cut out the node.....yes, you are looking good.

Whereas I am looking screwed with copper from a node a very long way away.

:(

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:32pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:25pm: On Netflix, I think. I don't have netflix ......yet My internet keeps dropping out. Even now it took 20 seconds for this page to turn. I'm hoping to swap to NBN in the next few weeks, once I do I'll sign up to netflix. Ferk!  That will not improve with NBN.  Everything I read says that the NBN is worse. actually I expect it to improve greatly. I have new cable from the exchange all the way to my house, instead of to a node out on the street. The problems usually occur when your forced to use the old cable from the node to your house. That's odd.  Fibre or copper?  Either way, if they have cut out the node.....yes, you are looking good. Whereas I am looking screwed with copper from a node a very long way away. :(

unfortunately its copper, coax cable, but it's better than nothing.


Cable installers were telling me they expect to be back within 10 yrs to replace it with fibre :D :D :D :D

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

That's odd.

I'm not sure if it has to do with the comm games or not.
I live not far from the head quarters and so we've been getting the royal treatment from council lately.  :D :D :D

......Silverado

Swagman wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

......Silverado

Anything with Costnar in it is gonna be corn pole.

I like The Hateful 8.

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:02pm: ......Silverado Anything with Costnar in it is gonna be corn pole.

....it was a bit corny but entertaining all the same

Open Range was another pretty gritty western

Clint Eastwood...

Pale Rider - High Plains Drifter and the spaghetti ones "Good the Bad and the Ugly"  :)

any Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western does it for me.

Eastwood's, The Outlaw Josey Wales, while not a Spaghetti, is a favourite

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Unforgiven is a top movie. Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake? Does not have John Wayne in it .

Yes it does
Marion plays the "grit"

Here's a few classic for you all...
John Wayne
The Searchers
El Dorado
Rio Bravo
Red River
The Sons of Katie Elder
Glen Ford
The Sheepman
Errol Flynn
Dodge City
Montana
Kevin Costner
Silverado
Open Range
Dances with Wolves
Audie Murphy
Destry
Ride Clear of Diablo
The Texican
Burt Lancaster
The Kentuckian
Lawman
Apache
The Scalphunters
Vera Cruz
Charlton Heston
Will Penny
Pony Express
Gregory Peck
The Big Country
How the West was Won
Gary Cooper
High Noon
Unconquered
James Stewart
Destry Rides Again
Winchester 73
Broken Arrow
James Garner
Support Your Local Sheriff
Alan Ladd
Shane
Clint Walker
Yellowstone Kelly
Yuma
Richard Widmark
The Last Wagon
Cheyenne Autumn
Broken Lance

'Hang Em High' is on right now....Fox Classics

AiA wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

any Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western does it for me.

The good, the bad and the ugly. No contest.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:16pm: Unforgiven is a top movie. Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake? Does not have John Wayne in it . Yes it does Marion plays the "grit"

the new version has jeff bridges in it

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Are the best. One of the best is 'True Grit', by The Coen Brothers. Beautiful movie.

The Coen Brothers version was quite good. But the original with John Wayne and Kim Darby was probably better.

That said, Hailee Steinfeld did an excellent job as Mattie Ross.

Aussie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:40pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:36pm: The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't too bad but I am always partial to Denzel. It was pathetic, and so was Washington in it.  Rated poorly as well, and as could be expected.

The dvd of the Magnificent Seven remake sits in front of me right now. I did a swap with dad for a copy of the original. I bought the original with the intent on getting the remake later. But dad did not like the remake very much. A few days after getting the original, I found the four pack for $20 of the first four movies of the Magnificent Seven. Got that as well, and swapped the surplus version for the remake that dad did not want.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:59pm:

AiA wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:14pm: any Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western does it for me. The good, the bad and the ugly. No contest.

That movie had me mesmerised in the 1990s. Had to buy a dvd copy and rewatch it over and over. The band Metallica bought the rights to the song "Ecstacy of gold". The band likes to play it at the start of each of their shows.

Sergio Leone demonstrated true genius with that movie. Combining a western with elements of Italian opera. Sounds ridiculous!  Actually, the film is a masterpiece.

With the exception of one or two I think I've seen all mentioned on here.

I don't think anyone mentioned

Dances with Wolves.

Last of the Mohicans (1936 & 1992)

Big fan of westerns.......................... 8-)

Ajax wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:07am:

With the exception of one or two I think I've seen all mentioned on here. I don't think anyone mentioned Dances with Wolves. Last of the Mohicans (1936 & 1992) Big fan of westerns.......................... 8-)

Yes I mentioned Dances...  but not The Last of the Mohicans, love the Daniel Day-Lewis one.

Haven't listed any by Randolph Scott but he has many good westerns.

If I had to pick just a handful, they'd be...
El Dorado
The Big Country
The Last of the Mohicans
The Last Wagon
and...
Shane.

Not too fussed about Clint's spaghetti westerns, but Pale Rider was good.

Grendel wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:07am:

Ajax wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:07am: With the exception of one or two I think I've seen all mentioned on here. I don't think anyone mentioned Dances with Wolves. Last of the Mohicans (1936 & 1992) Big fan of westerns.......................... 8-) Yes I mentioned Dances...  but not The Last of the Mohicans, love the Daniel Day-Lewis one. Haven't listed any by Randolph Scott but he has many good westerns.

I think I've watched them all on sockshare.

1936 is almost identical, but the modern one is better.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:24pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:16pm: Have you seen the 'True Grit' remake? didn't know they had a remake. I'll have to see if I can find it. It's very good. 100 times better than the John Wayne version. On Netflix, I think.

Incorrect ... blasphemy ::) :P

Some excellent ones that aren't well known

Open Range - Kevin Costner Robert Duvall

The Outsider - Naomi Watts

Both excellent.

The Alamo - John Wayne

The Outlaw Josey Wales

The Unforgiven 1960 - Burt Lancaster

Gunfight at the ok coral - Burt Lancaster Kirk Douglas

Tombstone - 2009

Flaming Star - Elvis

There's so many...........to many.

Doc Holiday "I'm Your Huckleberry"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVnE-wOXJs

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

Here's a few classic for you all... John Wayne The Searchers El Dorado Rio Bravo Red River The Sons of Katie Elder Glen Ford The Sheepman Errol Flynn Dodge City Montana Kevin Costner Silverado Open Range Dances with Wolves Audie Murphy Destry Ride Clear of Diablo The Texican Burt Lancaster The Kentuckian Lawman Apache The Scalphunters Vera Cruz Charlton Heston Will Penny Pony Express Gregory Peck The Big Country How the West was Won Gary Cooper High Noon Unconquered James Stewart Destry Rides Again Winchester 73 Broken Arrow James Garner Support Your Local Sheriff Alan Ladd Shane Clint Walker Yellowstone Kelly Yuma Richard Widmark The Last Wagon Cheyenne Autumn Broken Lance

Gregory Peck .... you forgot

McKennas Gold.

Oh & all the Westerns with Robert Mitchum.

I like quirky Silverado, Cheyenne Autumn, Outlaw Josey Wales, and snuck a look at Jane Got Her Gun with Wynona Ryder - not too bad....

Been sneaking online to watch Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, and Hickock (which was obviously a lead for a series), and a few others.  Saw the new Magnificent Seven...

Ah, yes - Tombstone... Doc had all the best lines...

"Ah will not be pawed at in this unseemly fashion.  Ah'm as right as the mail."

"Why look darlin', it's Johnny Ringo - the deadliest pistoleer, they say, since Wild Bill!"

"This is a nocturne, you ignorant asshole.. you know.. Frederick Forken Chopin?"

"And you, music lover.. you're next!"

"Why, you filthy lung-er - you're so drunk you're seeing double!"
"In that case Ah have two pistols.. one for each of ya."

"You don't have to get involved, Doc.  This is not your fight."
"Now that is one HELL of a thing for you to say to me!"

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:34am:

I like quirky Silverado, Cheyenne Autumn, Outlaw Josey Wales, and snuck a look at Jane Got Her Gun with Wynona Ryder - not too bad.... Been sneaking online to watch Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, and Hickock (which was obviously a lead for a series), and a few others.  Saw the new Magnificent Seven...

That's Natalie Portman dude... ;)

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Ah, yes - Tombstone... Doc had all the best lines... "Ah will not be pawed at in this unseemly fashion.  Ah'm as right as the mail." "Why look darlin', it's Johnny Ringo - the deadliest pistoleer, they say, since Wild Bill!" "This is a nocturne, you ignorant asshole.. you know.. Frederick Forken Chopin?" "And you, music lover.. you're next!" "Why, you filthy lung-er - you're so drunk you're seeing double!" "In that case Ah have two pistols.. one for each of ya." "You don't have to get involved, Doc.  This is not your fight." "Now that is one HELL of a thing for you to say to me!"

TV series wise my favourite is Deadwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood_(TV_series)

The language would make a wharfie blush

seems the in the old west they used the term

c0/cksu/cker to describe everyone very matter of factly  ;D

way before it was ghetto langauge.

double up ..... again  ::)

TV series...
Have Gun Will Travel
Bat Masterson
The Rifleman
Lawman
Wyatt Earp
Bronco
Maverick
Bonanza
The Virginian
Laramie
Laredo
Alias Smith and Jones
Wild Wild West
Jim Bowie
Daniel Boone
Cheyenne
Sugarfoot
Wanted Dead or Alive
Rin Tin Tin
Broken Arrow
Texas Rangers
Rawhide
Whiplash
Sergeant Preston of the Yukon
Annie Oakley
Stoney Burke
Casey Jones
The Lone Ranger
The Cisco Kid
The Alaskans
Sky King

Davey Crockett and Zorro were both Disney.  But one was more a mini series and the other maybe not strictly a western.

I'm sure there are more series I cant recall at the moment.
Never watched Gunsmoke

The Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns are hard to beat. Watched For a few dollars more just recently.

Jimmy Stewart made some good ones and then if course there was Shane.

Won't somebody think of Django Unchanged?

Django was great. As was Deadwood. Watched every season I could get my hands on.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Django was great. As was Deadwood. Watched every season I could get my hands on.

Loved Django Unchained- out standing as was Tombstobe and The Good Bad and the Ugly and other Clint Eastwood movies

Aussie wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Won't somebody think of Django Unchanged?

I don't really consider it a cowboy movie. More a period piece.

Ajax wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:32am:

The Alamo - John Wayne The Outlaw Josey Wales The Unforgiven 1960 - Burt Lancaster Gunfight at the ok coral - Burt Lancaster Kirk Douglas Tombstone - 2009 Flaming Star - Elvis There's so many...........to many. Doc Holiday "I'm Your Huckleberry" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVnE-wOXJs

Yep - Tombstone

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:49pm: Won't somebody think of Django Unchanged? I don't really consider it a cowboy movie. More a period piece.

john smith - yes, django was a lefty self loathing  uberviolent piece of rubbish

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:49pm: Won't somebody think of Django Unchanged? I don't really consider it a cowboy movie. More a period piece.

Yeah, cowboy/bounty hunter/slavery/plantation....period piece.  Typical Quentin Tarantino.

WTF were those Aussie actors doing there in that scene?

Ajax wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:41am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:34am: I like quirky Silverado, Cheyenne Autumn, Outlaw Josey Wales, and snuck a look at Jane Got Her Gun with Wynona Ryder - not too bad.... Been sneaking online to watch Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, and Hickock (which was obviously a lead for a series), and a few others.  Saw the new Magnificent Seven... That's Natalie Portman dude... ;)

I knew that - I was testing you (sorry)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 6:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 6:54pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:49pm: Won't somebody think of Django Unchanged? I don't really consider it a cowboy movie. More a period piece. john smith - yes, django was a lefty self loathing  uberviolent piece of rubbish

rubbish. Only a fkkwit would consider a movie about bounty hunting a leftie piece.
Jango was a great movie.




Then again, I've liked all of Tarantinos movies. He has a certain way about him.

Do votes for Brokeback Mountain?

Gordon wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Do votes for Brokeback Mountain?

I have not seen it.

Did not think it was a cowboy movie.
Did it have injuns in it ?
A crooked sheriff, a poker game at the Saloon ?

Gordon wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Do votes for Brokeback Mountain?

Haven't seen it and it aint a western for the reasons sprint stated above.

Ajax wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 10:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:01pm: Do votes for Brokeback Mountain? Haven't seen it and it aint a western for the reasons sprint stated above.

I watched it but only because Ledger was in it- was ok- but the gay scene in it left me totally underwhelmed-

Agnes wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 10:30pm:

Ajax wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:25pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:01pm: Do votes for Brokeback Mountain? Haven't seen it and it aint a western for the reasons sprint stated above. I watched it but only because Ledger was in it- was ok- but the gay scene in it left me totally underwhelmed-

Princess Hwy Tempe

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I just can't go past Clint Eastwood and his 'spaghetti' Westerns.
Those movies really clinched it for me.
But Heston, Peck, Ford, Stewart, Granger really did great Westerns too.
John Wayne was possibly the most over-rated and even Errol Flynn just didn't cut it much beyond their own 'stardom'.

As for the Magnificent 7?
Well, nothing beats the Seven Samurai original.
Brynner (great Western actor) and McQueen (also great Western actor) really made the Hollywood version respectable - but that was about it, the other characters were pathetic.
The recent Denzil Washington movie was an absolute 'far-fetched' bore. As are most modern movies - 'far-fetched' and 'camera tricks' to hide the fact that we've all just seen it all before.
I love Denzil as an actor. But I am finding it hard to enjoy 'token blackman' movies in 'historical' periods where there weren't really any (like recent Excalibur movie  ::) ).
Do we have 'Token white men' in docos depicting 10,000 ago Aboriginal Australia? :-?
Some movies just try too hard.

I think people love the old Westerns because its as close to the 'simple' way of life back yonder that we all wish we could have experienced, even if for just a holiday.

Did anyone notice in
THE MAN WHO SHOT THE LIBERTY VALANCE
that James Stewart's gun 'shot before' John Wayne's to kill Lee Marvin? Slow the picture down and you will see Stewarts gun go first.
In the movie - John Wayne is the one who apparently killed Marvin first.

Ahh, Lee Marvin - now there was a 'westernised' man if ever there was one.

Alan Ladd's portrayal of a gunslinger hiding out on a farm of Christians and the impressionable young kid who idolises Shane was a great Western

This movie was done in such an understated way, it reached greatness by the very fact that 'it held back' on the violence a powerful, powerful movie

Try and watch Shane, it holds up as well today as when it was made

It will stay in your mind forever

No Country For Old Men- great movie /will be a cult classic- awesome-

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Alan Ladd's portrayal of a gunslinger hiding out on a farm of Christians and the impressionable young kid who idolises Shane was a great Western This movie was done in such an understated way, it reached greatness by the very fact that 'it held back' on the violence a powerful, powerful movie Try and watch Shane, it holds up as well today as when it was made It will stay in your mind forever

Never seen Shane.
Everyone says its the greatest Western of all time.

Agnes wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

No Country For Old Men- great movie /will be a cult classic- awesome-

Not a 'cowboy' movie.  Absurd story line.

Aussie wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Agnes wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 7:24pm: No Country For Old Men- great movie /will be a cult classic- awesome- Not a 'cowboy' movie.  Absurd story line.

Maybe the tracking device was too high tech for you  ;)

Do you like a good cowboy and Indian movie?

So what's the big deal about Shane?

What made it to be considered the greatest Western of all time?

Swagman wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:30pm:

'Hang Em High' is on right now....Fox Classics

Yes - the best cowboy movie ever.

The Western, if that is what we mean by "Cowboy," is not a genre I am much interested in. There are some exceptions. I would choose "One Eyed Jacks" as my favourite. I thought "The Long Riders" was not bad either. I like productions that make some attempt at period accuracy, but most portray a post a Civil War frontier where every man from drifter to petty thief has at least one expensive revolver, a repeating rifle, a three thousand dollar saddle, and a well groomed horse that is always shod. The horses never have ailments or throw a shoe unless the plot requires it. In fact, horses are continuous problems to their owners.
I thought "Little Big Man" was quite good, but I hated "Dances with Wolves." But the problem with Westerns will always be the cliches. They just don't seem able to make one that does not  insult our intelligence in some way.
Here's a little contemporary anecdote that never gets into the Hollywood versions of the "West." Trappers were the first out there, not the cowboys. They were an uncivilized lot adept at tanning hides. A favourite novelty was to kill a squaw, cut out her genitals, and tan them for a tobacco pouch.

issuevoter wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

The Western, if that is what we mean by "Cowboy," is not a genre I am much interested in. There are some exceptions. I would choose "One Eyed Jacks" as my favourite. I thought "The Long Riders" was not bad either. I like productions that make some attempt at period accuracy, but most portray a post a Civil War frontier where every man from drifter to petty thief has at least one expensive revolver, a repeating rifle, a three thousand dollar saddle, and a well groomed horse that is always shod. The horses never have ailments or throw a shoe unless the plot requires it. In fact, horses are continuous problems to their owners. I thought "Little Big Man" was quite good, but I hated "Dances with Wolves." But the problem with Westerns will always be the cliches. They just don't seem able to make one that does not  insult our intelligence in some way. Here's a little contemporary anecdote that never gets into the Hollywood versions of the "West." Trappers were the first out there, not the cowboys. They were an uncivilized lot adept at tanning hides. A favourite novelty was to kill a squaw, cut out her genitals, and tan them for a tobacco pouch.

Really ?
I love 'Dances with Wolves'

"I was wanderin, under a Wandering Star..."

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;D
Good move. Extremist ****s !

Jasin wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

;D Good move. Extremist ****s !

Shouldn't you be only allowed in the Fringe, Mellie?

Bewdy wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 6:48pm: ;D Good move. Extremist ****s ! Shouldn't you be only allowed in the Fringe, Mellie?

My 'Fringe' is just fine. But thanks for asking loverboy.
;)

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When Vic found this thread in the morning did he sound like the Italian women cleaning up Pro Harts carpet?

Anyway......

Im voting Unforgiven and #1

Gordon wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 10:41pm:

When Vic found this thread in the morning did he sound like the Italian women cleaning up Pro Harts carpet? Anyway...... Im voting Unforgiven and #1

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znYigQFLZmY

Seraphim Falls

Pierce Brosnan & Liam Neeson