The 2016 Australian Census figures on religion are through

Australian Muslims account for 2.6% of our population

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/mediareleasesbyReleaseDate/7E65A144540551D7CA258148000E2B85?OpenDocument

Let's try a poll

According to the muslim on the Drum yesterday she thinks it is much higher and the Muslims lied in the census.

No religion – 30.1%


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No religion – 30.1% [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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And yet greggery, you are happy           to advocate and to 'apologise',           for a group of people, who, if they had their way [and were able to make law in Australia], they would 'righteously' kill you.

[either,     not very clever,   or, very very clever.         Quack, quack, quack!]



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"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




e.g.
ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'] are 'guilty' people, and may be killed by moslems....

Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable' April 19, 2004 "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true


N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."


'Unbelievers' = = don't even 'rate' as human beings.

To ISLAM, only moslems are human beings.

Google;
unbelievers, are sons of apes and pigs

Google;
Non-Muslims, Worse than Animals

Yadda wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 10:22am:

Quote: No religion – 30.1% [smiley=thumbsup.gif] And yet greggery, you are happy           to advocate and to 'apologise',           for a group of people, who, if they had their way [and were able to make law in Australia], they would 'righteously' kill you.

Nope.

You've mistaken me for someone else.

All religion is silly, including Islam.

I look forward to the day when we are 100% 'No Religion'.

Yadda == sadly mistaken   <-------------   dictionary definition.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 7:48am:

Let's try a poll

Australians believe the proportion of Muslims in the country is nine times higher than it really is, according to a new international survey comparing public perceptions with actual data.

The Ipsos Mori poll conducted across 14 countries also showed Australians are wildly wrong in their estimations of the number of pregnant teenagers, unemployed people, immigrants and Christians in the country.

Australians said the murder rate was rising, when the data shows it generally falling.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/2014/oct/30/australians-think-muslim-population-nine-times-greater


This seems to be reflected in this Ozpolitic poll

Poll Question: At what proportion do Muslims become a problem?

2.6%
10%
20%
30%
Higher than 30%

Poll need an option,,, whatever it is its too high

Where you have it wrong is that Australians believe that there is far too many muzzos full stop.

Even if it were less than 0.0001% it would be too high.

miketrees wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Poll need an option,,, whatever it is its too high

Correct - Muslims despise the culture and country into which they migrate for a better life, and seek to change it to their ways or no ways... if that's not 'inability to assimilate' I don't know what is.

I'm still waiting for a response to my request of one user to tell me how 'Muslims are oppressed in Australia'...

Just to recap:-  they are nowhere prevented or excluded from education, employment, legal rights, service in the armed forces or police etc, opportunity for election to public office, living in an area of their own choosing, are not forced to marry by THIS nation's laws, they receive equal treatment for health issues, they can shop where they please and are not forced to live in shanty towns and paid less than anyone else for the same work, they are not excluded from public areas or gatherings, they don't have to sit at the back of the bus, they can use the same water fountains, they can shop where they choose, they can associate with whomever they wish, and travel anywhere they wish without restrictions placed on them by THIS nation and its people.

How the hell does anyone come up with the idea that Muslims are oppressed here in Australia?  Unless it is by their own religious adherence and its inability and refusal to accept our differences as equal.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:17pm: Poll need an option,,, whatever it is its too high Correct - Muslims despise the culture and country into which they migrate for a better life, and seek to change it to their ways or no ways... if that's not 'inability to assimilate' I don't know what is. I'm still waiting for a response to my request of one user to tell me how 'Muslims are oppressed in Australia'... Just to recap:-  they are nowhere prevented or excluded from education, employment, legal rights, service in the armed forces or police etc, opportunity for election to public office, living in an area of their own choosing, are not forced to marry by THIS nation's laws, they receive equal treatment for health issues, they can shop where they please and are not forced to live in shanty towns and paid less than anyone else for the same work, they are not excluded from public areas or gatherings, they don't have to sit at the back of the bus, they can use the same water fountains, they can shop where they choose, they can associate with whomever they wish, and travel anywhere they wish without restrictions placed on them by THIS nation and its people. How the hell does anyone come up with the idea that Muslims are oppressed here in Australia?  Unless it is by their own religious adherence and its inability and refusal to accept our differences as equal.

Muzzos have to play the victim card regardless of the fact that they are the assailants rather than the victims.
When ever there is a terrorist attack.
Do they speak their condolences?......nah
Do they look to help the victims?........nah

They protest that they feel threatened  and hide in their mosques.

This CULT is evil and full of retarded liars
It has no place in civilized society.
That is why it continually tries to destroy it.

I have to say - I have no personal dislike or hatred of Muslims per se - but I'm heartily sick of being labeled some sort of hater for objecting to their often rough treatment of anyone not Muslim and their blatantly obvious paranoia that often leads them to violence and aggression against anyone different.

You have to live among them to know what I mean.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 7:48am:

Let's try a poll

That is either bullshit, or there has been a massive increase in Muslim numbers since 2011.

Valkie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Where you have it wrong is that Australians believe that there is far too many muzzos full stop. Even if it were less than 0.0001% it would be too high.

I think even the most anti-Muslim Australians would be able to handle 24 Muslims.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 7:44am:

The 2016 Australian Census figures on religion are through Australian Muslims account for 2.6% of our population http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/mediareleasesbyReleaseDate/7E65A144540551D7CA258148000E2B85?OpenDocument

They must be wonderful, we should be glad we have them here.


They make only 80% of the NSW Supermax population and of that 60% are convicted on terrorism charges.


Yep a population well worth having.


Want much less terrorists try having much less muslims.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

No religion – 30.1% [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

That is great news , more people walking away from the proposterous notion of sky fairies and make believe 

Moslems living in Australia....
......are not Australians.


They are moslems, who are living in Australia, who are promoting ISLAMISM in Australia.

Which is seeking a separate legal code be applicable for members of their community, including FMG in Australia, child marriages in Australia, the right to riot and threaten murder and mayhem in Australia if anyone [i.e. any Australian] offends their ISLAMIST worldview.

Notwithstanding the denials from moslems, the allegiance of every moslem, is to ISLAM, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

NOT to Australia.


What do moslems, in living in Australia, want ?

Notwithstanding the denials from moslems,       many moslems living in Australia want the right [IN LAW] to murder those who offend the strictures of their faith,     which is completely lawful, within ISLAMIC law [and completely lawful within moslem majority jurisdictions].

They want the force of ISLAMIC blasphemy laws, to have effect here, in Australia.


Watch the YT.

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The Struggle for Islam in the West | Trailer: Khilafah Conference 2010; Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia            5 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5RtutmDLVU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5RtutmDLVU





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What we 'disbelievers' must understand, is that;

ISLAM is spread by moslems.


Moslems bring ISLAM with them, wherever they go in the world.


Duh !

It isn't rocket science!



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Islamist leader Burhan Hanif tells Aussie Muslims to 'shun democracy'     5 years ago July 05, 2010     Australia a 'Godforsaken country' - group     Secular democracy is 'un-Islamic'     Islamic group's presence sparks protest     Join us over on Facebook | Twitter LEADERS of the global Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir have called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam and join the struggle for a transnational Islamic state. British Hizb ut-Tahrir leader Burhan Hanif told participants at a conference in western Sydney yesterday that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law. "We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif told about 500 participants attending the convention in Lidcombe. "We should not be conned or succumb to the disingenuous and flawed narrative that the only way to engage politically is through the secular democratic process. It is prohibited and haram." He said democracy was incompatible with Islam because the Koran insisted Allah was the sole lawmaker, and Muslim political involvement could not be based on "secular and erroneous concepts such as democracy and freedom". His view was echoed by an Australian HT official, Wassim Dourehi, who told the conference Muslims should not support "any kafir (non-believer) political party", because humans have no right to make laws. Mr Dourehi also urged Muslims to spurn the concept of moderate Islam promoted by governments in the West, including in "this godforsaken country" of Australia. "We need to reject this new secular version of Islam," he said. "It is a perverted concoction of Western governments. "It is a perversion that seeks to wipe away the political aspects of Islam and localise our concerns. We must reject it and challenge the proponents of this aberration of Islam." The conference, which followed the theme The struggle for Islam in the West' was the first major event held by the Australian branch of HT since a seminar in 2007 which coincided with calls for the group to be banned. Nick Folkes, the Sydney organiser for the APP, believes that the HT should be banned in Australia and thinks that practising sharia law should be illegal in Australia. "Sharia law is an archaic legal system that treats woman as second-class citizens," he said. "We're not asking them to change their skin colour or religion. But if they come here, they must reject sharia law."

http://www.news.com.au/national/islamist-leader-burhan-hanif-tells-aussie-muslims-told-to-shun-democracy/story-e6frfkvr-1225887784755





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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

Same could be said of many other groups, Yadda - most identify as 'Greeks', 'Italians', 'Lebanese' (both kinds - both cuntry and western orientated)** - nothing wrong, on the surface of it, in being proud of your forebears and history of your family nation etc - Aussies in London don't call themselves Brits.... but when it is clear that people have no desire or even a basic structure to lead them to assimilate - the problems begin - and they grow worse when the religious system on which their society is based demands its own superiority over all others.

** My solicitor is a Lebanese Christian... and a very good man.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:17pm: Poll need an option,,, whatever it is its too high Correct - Muslims despise the culture and country into which they migrate for a better life, and seek to change it to their ways or no ways... if that's not 'inability to assimilate' I don't know what is. I'm still waiting for a response to my request of one user to tell me how 'Muslims are oppressed in Australia'... Just to recap:-  they are nowhere prevented or excluded from education, employment, legal rights, service in the armed forces or police etc, opportunity for election to public office, living in an area of their own choosing, are not forced to marry by THIS nation's laws, they receive equal treatment for health issues, they can shop where they please and are not forced to live in shanty towns and paid less than anyone else for the same work, they are not excluded from public areas or gatherings, they don't have to sit at the back of the bus, they can use the same water fountains, they can shop where they choose, they can associate with whomever they wish, and travel anywhere they wish without restrictions placed on them by THIS nation and its people. How the hell does anyone come up with the idea that Muslims are oppressed here in Australia?  Unless it is by their own religious adherence and its inability and refusal to accept our differences as equal.

bwood1946 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 11:54am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:54pm: miketrees wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:17pm: Poll need an option,,, whatever it is its too high Correct - Muslims despise the culture and country into which they migrate for a better life, and seek to change it to their ways or no ways... if that's not 'inability to assimilate' I don't know what is. I'm still waiting for a response to my request of one user to tell me how 'Muslims are oppressed in Australia'... Just to recap:-  they are nowhere prevented or excluded from education, employment, legal rights, service in the armed forces or police etc, opportunity for election to public office, living in an area of their own choosing, are not forced to marry by THIS nation's laws, they receive equal treatment for health issues, they can shop where they please and are not forced to live in shanty towns and paid less than anyone else for the same work, they are not excluded from public areas or gatherings, they don't have to sit at the back of the bus, they can use the same water fountains, they can shop where they choose, they can associate with whomever they wish, and travel anywhere they wish without restrictions placed on them by THIS nation and its people. How the hell does anyone come up with the idea that Muslims are oppressed here in Australia?  Unless it is by their own religious adherence and its inability and refusal to accept our differences as equal.

There were at least three people — a driver and two gunmen — in the car.

Police said the man was known to them "for a number of reasons in regards to organised crime".

"This is a targeted shooting. It is not a random shooting of a member of the public," Detective Chief Inspector Taylor said.

"These individuals obviously wanted to kill him. There's no doubt about that. He was the target."
The ABC understands Assad was investigated for possible links to the shooting of underworld figure Walid Ahmad, who was gunned down in a suspected retaliation killing outside a shopping centre in Sydney's south west earlier this year.

Assad was also acquitted of another murder six years ago.

Police not speculating about motive

Assad was just about to leave his home when he was shot, leading police to believe his movements may have bee

Its time wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 7:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 9:58am: No religion – 30.1% [smiley=thumbsup.gif] That is great news , more people walking away from the proposterous notion of sky fairies and make believe

All Australians should working toward the deletion of sect 116 of the constitution. No special treatment / rights for anyone, ever.

hey peccer.

Religion 69.9% then innit....

Grendel wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit....

Gold star for Grendel  ::)

When you count the likes of Bwian, mothra, Karnal etc, the 'Muslim' population is easily 30%.

Islam punches way above its weight in the 'unwelcome demographic stakes' everywhere. It presents with a massive 'wind chill' factor everywhere, so no matter how few of them you have, it always feels much worse.
Thank you, Mohammed.


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Grendel wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit....

That's correct.

100 - 30.1 = 69.9

Your point?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point?

It is not really the point. Many people who put a religion did so to keep their parents happy. I would assume that the 18 to 50 year olds just put in the religion their parents were, just to avoid conflict. The real figure would be close to 50% non religious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point?

Oh I was just wondering about YOUR point peccerhead... :D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 4:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point? Oh I was just wondering about YOUR point peccerhead... :D :D :D :D :D

Poll said 'Muslim' - not Muslim Apologists...

Grendel wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 4:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point? Oh I was just wondering about YOUR point

There are more people with no religion than there are Catholics.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 30th, 2017 at 4:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point? Oh I was just wondering about YOUR point There are more people with no religion than there are Catholics.

You follow West Coast Eagles, or Western Bulldogs, or the lamentable Fremantle?

Lots of religion there.... look at the crowds they draw like some saint's christening ceremony ...but I'm watching the NRL tonight.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30th, 2017 at 5:17pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 30th, 2017 at 4:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2017 at 12:44pm: hey peccer. Religion 69.9% then innit.... That's correct. 100 - 30.1 = 69.9 Your point? Oh I was just wondering about YOUR point There are more people with no religion than there are Catholics. You follow West Coast Eagles, or Western Bulldogs, or the lamentable Fremantle?

No.

GayFL bores me to tears.