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Title: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Australia's first terrorist jail to be built inside country's toughest prison to keep radicalised criminals from other inmates

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4591580/Australia-s-terrorist-jail-inside-Supermax.html

A $47 million overhaul of Supermax jail is in the works with a 'mini-prison' next door set to hold extremists in order to stop them radicalising inmates.

Supermax II in Goulburn will be Australia's first terrorist jail designed with soundproofing, audio and CCTV upgrades to help monitor visitors and prisoners to stop extremists influencing other inmates.

The plans for the overhaul were put together in the New South Wales Budget and also include boosting the number of prisoners in Supermax from 45 to 75 inmates, and offering a new deradicalisation program, according to The Daily Telegraph.

New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said it was time to stop inmates from being exposed to radicalisation.
'We know that radicalisation is a risk in our prison system. This tackles the issue at the source,' she said.

New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said it was time to stop inmates from being exposed to radicalisation.

'We know that radicalisation is a risk in our prison system. This tackles the issue at the source,' she said.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 10:31am

Now if we can just get our airport questions right, problem solved.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Gordon on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Gordon on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:08pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

But what is your idea?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:23pm

Also -
Use the techniques of A Clockwork Orange

De-programming against ultra violence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoNBomWBZI

It involved forcing a patient to watch, through the use of specula to hold the eyes open,
violent images for long periods,
while under the effect of a nausea-, paralysis-, and fear-inducing drugs.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:29pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

You shoot them for about and save a heap of money, just make the enemy combatants instead of common criminals.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Yadda on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:31pm

on OP.....

IMO, this is simply another 'band-aid' type solution.

And it doesn't go nearly far enough.

We need to close ALL mosques, and to encourage all moslems to leave Australia.

e.g.
The Australian gov. should legislate to apply a special 'service tax' upon every person who self-identifies as moslem [men, women and every moslem child], for the inconvenience and costs which having moslems within Australia, causes to the Australian taxpayer.

n.b.
Such a 'service tax' would be no more discriminatory, than the tax which ISLAMIC jurisdictions impose upon all non-moslems residing permanently within ISLAMIC jurisdictions.

Google;
what is the jizya tax

Quote:

Jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزية‎‎ ǧizya IPA: [dʒizja]; Ottoman Turkish: جزيه cizye) is a per capita yearly tax historically levied by Islamic states on certain non-Muslim subjects—dhimmis—permanently residing in Muslim lands under Islamic law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

.

'IMO, this is simply another 'band-aid' type solution.'

'And it doesn't go nearly far enough.'

i.e.
The problem which faces all secular nations, which have chosen to 'accommodate' moslem communities, is undeniable.

-------- >

IMAGE.....

"We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah and we are not ashamed of that,..."

Quote:

By Nicolai Sennels on May 31, 2017 09:02 am

The real cause of Islamic terrorism: “We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah”

Every time a new jihad attack strikes innocents in the West, media and politicians get busy blaming “bad integration,” “poverty,” “marginalization,” “racism,” etc.

For some reason, it never occurs to them to ask if Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam and the increasing number of followers of this particular religion in our countries......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/the-real-cause-of-islamic-terrorism-we-are-motivated-by-our-religion-by-our-quran-and-sunnah

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Gordon on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

But what is your idea?

Exactly what you said, farm, barbed wire and machine guns.
There would also be a series of fences with mined areas in between.

The facility would be located in western NSW where land is cheap and it would turn a profit by doubling as a rubbish landfill tip.

The prisoners would be permitted to scavenge through the rubbish to find materials to build a shelter, find material to recycle and earn credits to purchase the essentials of live.

The prison would only take lifers, and not just muslims. All scum accepted.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Yadda on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:36pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

You shoot them for about and save a heap of money,

......just make the enemy combatants instead of common criminals.

The truth is, that any honest and candid moslem would concede, that they do regard themselves as enemy combatants, engaged in Allah's war against unbelief.

That, is what a moslem is.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:37pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

You shoot them for about and save a heap of money, just make the enemy combatants instead of common criminals.

Hi BigOl,
Actually it might even be legal to shoot them because
soldiers out of uniform behind enemy lines in a war can be shot.

( I think according to the Geneva convention )

The army would have to do the job.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:42pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

But what is your idea?

That would be great - just add 2 electric fences as well.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Yadda on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:51pm

....and bobby, the only meat served in such a prison would be pork.

Right ? ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sir Bobby on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:58pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

....and bobby, the only meat served in such a prison would be pork.

Right ? ;D

They would only be supplied food found in Coles & Woolies dumpsters.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Unforgiven on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 1:03pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

Gordon's mind is Gordon's own prison. It can't accept other inmates because it is too tiny and perverted.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Good point. So, how many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Gordon on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:08pm

Muslims should foot the bill for this.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:11am

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

But what is your idea?

I'd give them nice food and lessons in comparative religion. Monks and priests and rabbis and nuns could all come in and teach. They could do some charity work with children and animals - see the good in others. Their families could be an active part of the program.

They'd learn, most of them are just kids.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:22am

Karnal you can't possibly be suggesting we treat them with dignity and humanity, could you?

What do you think this is? 2017 Australia or something?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:50am

Norway Proves That Treating Prison Inmates As Human Beings Actually Works
“Treat people like dirt, and they will be dirt. Treat them like human beings, and they will act like human beings.”

BASTOY ISLAND, Norway ― “Prison?” I asked the two deckhands, after a train carried me to the ferry.

“Yes,” said one of the men, rubbing his hands together for warmth. He looked me up and down with arrogant blue eyes. “But sorry, it is only for men.” He laughed. “Come, come, you’re in the right place.”

I looked up at the masthead and noticed that it was crowned by a dead, stuffed swan.

“We found it frozen in a block of ice, years ago,” said the other deckhand. He wore a black ski hat and had a wizened, kindly face.

“It’s creepy-looking,” I said.

“You think so? Our mascot. You are afraid of criminals?” he suddenly asked. Before I could answer, “We are criminals.” I looked into his eyes; they were laughing. Was he kidding?

“Really, we are. Criminals. Are you afraid?”

“Why would I be?” I shrugged. I still wasn’t sure if he was joking.

“I am Wiggo,” he said, offering a handshake. He was indeed a prisoner, serving a 21-year sentence, the maximum in Norway, but he’ll likely be out next year.

Cato, the other deckhand, was serving one and a half years for intention to commit a criminal act, though he insisted he’s innocent. He and Wiggo brought me to a vestibule to show me their daily schedule, posted on the wall.

“We work the 6-to-noon shift,” Cato said. “Then we go back to the prison and relax or exercise. Come, you want to meet the captain? He is not a prisoner. The only one who isn’t, on this boat.”

Upstairs, the sturdy captain shook my hand.

“You talking to those criminals?” he said, with a laugh. I was lapping up this playful mockery of the scary-criminals mentality. There was clearly nothing to be afraid of here, and everyone seemed to know it.

It’s a total erasure of boundaries between ‘us’ and ‘them.’
As the boat set sail, I spied Bastoy, a cluster of gangly pine trees in a gray sea stretching toward a gray sky. Inside the boat’s small seating area, Cato sat down next to me and turned on the TV, flipping to the History Channel.

“Are you on Facebook?” he asked.

“You’re allowed Facebook? And internet?” I countered.

“Not while over there.” He pointed to the pine trees. “But yes, when we are on home leave.” I jotted down my name on a slip of paper. For the first time since my arrival, a thin line of blue sky appeared overhead.

“They say it is a summer camp, Bastoy,” said Wiggo, as I left the cabin to disembark. He was almost reprimanding me. “You will maybe think so. But no, it is prison. Trust me. We have our life stopped. Frozen.”

I pointed to the swan. “Like your mascot. Frozen. Even on a beautiful island.”

Wiggo nodded emphatically.

“Back to the mainland!” he called to Cato, ready for another run. Modern-day Charons, I thought. Ferrying new souls across the river to the underworld.

It hardly looked like the underworld, though. Wiggo was right; it did look like summer camp. Mottled leaves fell on cyclers ― yes, cycling prisoners ― and a horse-and-carriage cantered by. Gingerbread houses dotted the landscape; they were dull yellow, with green trim and red roofs. I spied sheep and cows but no fence or barbed wire.

Bastoy is an open prison, a concept born in Finland during the 1930s and now part of the norm throughout Scandinavia, where prisoners can sometimes keep their jobs on the outside while serving time, commuting daily. Thirty percent of Norway’s prisons are open, and Bastoy, a notorious reformatory for boys converted in 1982 to a prison, is considered the crown jewel of them all.

A small yellow van driven by a smiling officer carried me to a cabin where I checked my phone in, the first thing that remotely suggested “prison.” Tom, the governor ― not warden or superintendent but governor ― looked like Kevin Costner. He offered me a cup of coffee, and we took a seat in his office, which, with its floral drapes, aloe plants and faintly perfumed, cinder scent, reminded me of a quaint bed-and-breakfast somewhere in New England.

“It doesn’t work. We only do it because we’re lazy,” Tom said flatly. He was talking about the traditional prison system, where he was stationed for 22 years before running this open prison. A fly buzzed loudly by the window as Tom went on.

“I started skeptical. That changed quickly. More prisons should be open ― almost all should be. We take as many as we can here, but there isn’t room for everyone.” Prisoners from around the country can apply to move to an open prison like Bastoy when they’re within three years of release. The island is home to about 115 men overseen by over 70 staff members, and there is a waiting list of about 30.

“There’s a perception that, ‘Oh, this is the lightweight prison; you just take the nice guys for the summer-camp prison.’ But in fact, no. Our guys are into, pardon my French, some heavy poo. Drugs and violence. And the truth is, some have been problematic in other prisons but then they come here, and we find them easy. We say, ‘Is that the same guy you called difficult?’ It’s really very simple: Treat people like dirt, and they will be dirt. Treat them like human beings, and they will act like human beings.”

He opened the window to let the fly go free.

“Come, let’s take a stroll.”

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52am

We wandered through the forest, past grazing horses, a breeding area for birds, a greenhouse and a barbecue pit where men can cook lunch. Prisoners live in shared houses that resemble log cabins. The delicious smell of burning firewood wafted through the air, and South Africa’s Robben Island sprang to mind. Bastoy is the opposite of its doppelgänger: not a dark, evil twin but the humane edition of that prison-island hellhole.

“It’s not about running a prison but running an island,” Tom explained. “Agriculture is a big part of our philosophy. We are humane, ecological. Animals have a social function too, teaching empathy. Everyone works the land.”

This is a nature reserve, growing about 25 percent of its food. Most vehicles are electric, and everything is recycled.

“Do you live on the island?” I asked.

“I commute by boat every day. I love this. No more driving in traffic to Oslo.” He shook his head. “I knew nothing about any of this, you know. I was a city boy. Now my life is so much restored by this place, this lifestyle. Just like for the prisoners.”

We wandered through the forest, past grazing horses, a breeding area for birds, a greenhouse and a barbecue pit where men can cook lunch. Prisoners live in shared houses that resemble log cabins. The delicious smell of burning firewood wafted through the air, and South Africa’s Robben Island sprang to mind. Bastoy is the opposite of its doppelgänger: not a dark, evil twin but the humane edition of that prison-island hellhole.

“It’s not about running a prison but running an island,” Tom explained. “Agriculture is a big part of our philosophy. We are humane, ecological. Animals have a social function too, teaching empathy. Everyone works the land.”

This is a nature reserve, growing about 25 percent of its food. Most vehicles are electric, and everything is recycled.

“Do you live on the island?” I asked.

“I commute by boat every day. I love this. No more driving in traffic to Oslo.” He shook his head. “I knew nothing about any of this, you know. I was a city boy. Now my life is so much restored by this place, this lifestyle. Just like for the prisoners.”

That’s an understatement. This is the land of the pillaging Vikings and of the Nordic sagas, depicted on wooden friezes outside Oslo’s city hall, which I had visited the other day. The sagas are long tales of violence, murder, jealousy and revenge, and it’s fascinating to think that somewhere deep in Norway’s past, a social tide turned, and a culture of peace and forgiveness came to triumph.

Over lunch, Tom continued to impress me. He explained that although the “conservative” party here would be considered liberal anywhere else and in general, the left and the right agree on the main threads of correctional policy, an influx of immigrants, rising xenophobia and conservative politics lately threaten to undermine the country’s progressive system and soft-on-crime approach. An anti-immigration Progress Party, part of the conservative-led government, is promoting a backlash against what’s known as “naving,” or living off welfare ― NAV is the Norwegian Labor and Welfare Administration. In recent years, a local newspaper claimed that 80 percent of Norwegians want stricter punishments, and a 2010 survey showed that a majority felt punishments were generally too lenient.

“It’s your media that’s also responsible,” Tom said, biting into a slice of whole-grain toast with brown cheese. “American TV shows about tough prisons and talk about being ‘tough on crime.’ It influences people here. But thankfully that’s started to change. All the bad press in the past few years from you guys has started to make us not take you all so seriously anymore. Especially in elections. In the political speeches, those biblical references by a secular country? And Sarah Palin? People are laughing and also crying ― this is a country we want to imitate?”

I sighed. It’s disturbing, the way media can make and unmake the problem. I said as much, adding that the culture of fear is to blame. I told him a little about my Australian experience and the Murdoch media.

“Yes,” Tom concurred. “Talk to people at a party and every ― pardon my French ― idiot will insist there’s more crime than there is. Statistics say there is nothing to fear.”

Nothing represents the Norwegian way like its prison system.
A study of home leave in Germany, I said, found that the failure-to-return rate amounts to a mere 1 percent.

“Exactly,” Tom nodded. “Here there were instances where prisoners committed crime while on home leave, but so few of them. You can’t construct a whole justice system around one or two exceptions.”

“I tell people, we’re releasing neighbors every year. Do you want to release them as ticking time bombs? Is that who you want living next to you? Hey” ― he put down his toast ― “have you seen the film about the warden from Attica, New York?”

A recent Finnish documentary depicts a former Attica superintendent’s tour of Halden, another prison in Norway focused on rehabilitation. Where the Norwegian officials see rehabilitation and correction, the American saw risk and danger. While Halden staff interacting with prisoners ― playing cards, for example ― is a vital part of Halden’s ideology, the American superintendent said that’s not allowed at the Attica prison.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:53am

In response, Tom said to me, “How can you help the prisoners if you are not sharing, about you and your life and your kids? The men here know my kids, my address, everything. Why should I be afraid?”

If ever there was a utopia, Norway has a reputation for being it. It’s an oil-rich welfare society ― top-quality education, health and child care are provided almost entirely by the state ― with a long-standing culture of equality, safety and communitarianism. Instead of serfdoms or a feudal society, for centuries Norway’s economic life was based on small village units and local democratic self-government; nobility was abolished over 200 years ago, and there’s never been a distinct upper class. Norway’s climate and geography limited immigration, and cohesion was fortified by the country’s uniform population.

Nothing represents the Norwegian way like its prison system, which has adopted a “principle of normality,” according to which punishment is the restriction of liberty itself and which mandates that no one shall serve their sentence under stricter circumstances than is required by the security of the community.

Criminologist John Pratt summed up the Scandinavian approach using the term “penal exceptionalism,” referring to these countries’ low rates of imprisonment and humane prison conditions. Prisons here are small, most housing fewer than 100 people and some just a handful. They’re spread all over the country, which keeps prisoners close to their families and communities, and are designed to resemble life on the outside as much as possible.

An incarcerated person’s community continues to handle his health care, education and other social services while he’s incarcerated. The Norwegian import model, as it is known, thus connects people in prison to the same welfare organizations as other citizens and creates what’s called a seamless sentence ― a person belongs to the same municipality before and after prison. Sentences here are short, averaging an estimated eight months, as compared to America, where the estimated average sentence was 4.5 years in 2012. Almost no one serves all his time, and after one-third of it is complete, a person in prison can apply for home leave and spend up to half his sentence off the premises.

And the most highly touted aspect of the humane Norwegian prison system is the fact that it seems to work. Crime rates are very low, and the recidivism rate is a mere 20 percent.

The most highly touted aspect of the humane Norwegian prison system is the fact that it seems to work.
After my visit, as I waited for the yellow van to carry me back to the boat and to Oslo, a man with a chipped front tooth stood beside me.

“You are from America?” he asked. “You must think this place is crazy, huh?” Without letting me answer, he went on.

“But if you treat people like poo, they will be poo. Why doesn’t America get it? Funny, because Tony Robbins is so smart, and he is from America.” He was talking about the self-help guru known for infomercials and books such as Unleash the Power Within. The man let out a nervous laugh.

“What are you doing here?” I asked him. His blue parka said ENGINEERING, so I assumed he must be repairing equipment.

“Me? I am sitting here. I am going to see the doctor, because I may have to be transferred to another open prison. I am developing allergies to horses.”

Oh ― he’s in prison here. I had no idea.

I found my own cluelessness deeply moving. He and I were two human beings. Like my meeting with the deckhands Wiggo and Cato, our casual, normal interaction contrasted starkly with the many prison interviews I’ve done over the years; it’s a total erasure of boundaries between “us” and “them.”

Chatting with me like an old friend on the ride back to the mainland, he told me that he once worked in oil and traveled the world and although home leaves have kept him close to family and community, when he goes home next year, it won’t be so easy to pick up the pieces.

“I am hopeful, though. In prison, you can choose to see the sky or choose to see the moss on the ground. I look at the sky.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norway-prison_us_578418b6e4b0e05f05232cb7

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:01am

In Norway, fewer than 4,000 of the country’s 5 million people were behind bars as of August 2014.

That makes Norway's incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12#ZMj5S6kWu8vg9wK6.99

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:18am

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Good point. So, how many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists?

How could I predict those numbers?

One, one thousand - who knows?

The point is, it's a prison for extremists/terrorists.

Your thread title is a complete lie:

"Muslims to get their own prison in NSW"
- Incorrect.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:18am:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Good point. So, how many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists?

FD keeps doing that.

I wonder what he gets out of it?

I'm genuinely intrigued.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:36am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:18am:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Good point. So, how many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists?

FD keeps doing that.

I wonder what he gets out of it?

I'm genuinely intrigued.

Maybe he gets Herbie to write his thread titles.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:45am

If only FD restricted his porkies to thread titles.

Still, he does seem to have an easily convinced and loyal following.

That must be what he gets out of it. FD has a messiah complex.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Fireball on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 8:53am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:45am:

If only FD restricted his porkies to thread titles.

Still, he does seem to have an easily convinced and loyal following.

That must be what he gets out of it. FD has a messiah complex.

Are you looking in the mirror when you say that?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am

Alas Fireball. I cannot help you with your mother issues over cyberspace.

Do you know any real women?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:13am

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

You can't even build an argument.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:21am

I hope they prepare a mass grave site at the same time.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:27am

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

I hope they prepare a mass grave site at the same time.

Behold! Another one who bought it.

I think some people call them "sheeple".

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Fireball on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:38am

Is that you at the front mothball, ya know a 'real woman'.......not at all a LIAR......

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:41am

Yes i know many women, Fireball. Myself included.

I suggest your sites are off. There's laws against that, just so you know.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:45am

I almost understand your confusion, Fireball. At least if i hold my breath for a really long time i might.

Who am i kidding. Fireball, this is not a woman.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:34am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:27am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

I hope they prepare a mass grave site at the same time.

Behold! Another one who bought it.

I think some people call them "sheeple".

So are you denying the news that at Goulburn the NSW State Government s spending $47million to build a wing to hold terrorists eh...

oh look Muslims in Supermax...
oh look conversion and radicalisation inside NSW gaols...

Quote:

Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ where radical Muslim ...
www.news.com.au/news/inside-australias-supermosque-prison-where...
Video embedded · For this reason Supermax, a jail inside NSW”s grimmest correctional complex 195km southwest of Sydney, is often referred to as “Super mosque”.

Quote:

Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ prison - Australia news ...
myexpress.com.au/natipnal/crime/inside-australias-super-mosque-prison
Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ prison. Video; Image; A restrained is eliminated to Goulburn Supermax. Inmates in a Goulburn categorical yard where Australian ...

Quote:

THE NSW Government has launched a prison crackdown on a group of the state's most dangerous criminals who have converted to Islam.

The targets are held in the highest security jail in Australia, the Super Max facility inside the walls of Goulburn jail, where one in three of the inmates is a Muslim fundamentalist or a convert.

Two prison converts, one a convicted murderer and the other a rapist, have married Muslim women in marriage ceremonies conducted over the telephone on party lines.

Oh look YOU were wrong and they were right...

Quote:

Australia building 'Muslim terrorist-only supermax prison ...
https://www.sott.net/article/353473-Australia-building-Muslim...
The government is planning to spend ... had to make" as there are "too many terrorists in Supermax" at Goulburn, NSW ... Australia building 'Muslim terrorist-only ...

Quote:

Australia builds separate prison wing for extremist ...
world.news.mediline.hu/news/australia-builds-separate-prison-wing...
Australia's largest state Sunday said it was building a separate prison wing for extremist ... Goulburn's Supermax Prison (pictured) in NSW could ... Muslim Grand ...

Quote:

NSW Premier to announce new 'mini-max' jail within ...
australia.otpisal.com/au/85426
A PROPOSAL by the NSW government to build a prison to house hard core extremists must ... Supermax unit in prison to hold ... 'When you say you are a Muslim, ...

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/nsw-premier-to-announce-new-minimax-jail-within-goulburns-supermax-prison/news-story/0c3a9c1b9a9e855f64628b32e7518ed2

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/35888649/nsw-to-build-a-47-million-separate-jail-for-radicalised-inmates/

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/terrorist-prison-within-jail-of-killers-will-cost-47m/news-story/70b13c1602531601c4200c790e4320d2

Google.... not all that difficult to do you know.
You've been doing a lot of reality denial lately, perhaps you should be looking for an institution where they house people who cant handle reality, so you can live your fantasy life out there.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:42am

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:34am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:27am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

I hope they prepare a mass grave site at the same time.

Behold! Another one who bought it.

I think some people call them "sheeple".

So are you denying the news that at Goulburn the NSW State Government s spending $47million to build a wing to hold terrorists eh...

Terrorists, yes.

Not, as the thread title says, 'Muslims'.

It will hold all terrorists/extremists, no matter what religion they may or may not follow.

The thread title is a lie.

Capiche?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:48am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Another CUCKOO....

No amount of pedantry, sophistry, stupidity or self-denial will make you right mothra. Did you actually read everything I posted or are you just being ignorant on purpose?

I suggest you reread the FACTS and then crawl away since you cant ever bring yourself to apologise.

Even the LW prog MSM aren't denying the truth mothra. We have Muslim Terrorists and they are the reason this is happening.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:50am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Correct.

Terrorists/Extremeists from all walks of life and all religions (if they have a religion, that is).

The thread title is a lie.

I'll bet you ten bucks Grendel still won't get it, though.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:51am

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:48am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

We don't have any other kinds of terrorists? :-?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:53am

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:48am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

We don't have any other kinds of terrorists? :-?

Funny you should ask that.

The vast majority (good morning Wes) of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia, were carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 11:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:50am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Correct.

Terrorists/Extremeists from all walks of life and all religions (if they have a religion, that is).

The thread title is a lie.

I'll bet you ten bucks Grendel still won't get it, though.

the special prison is to isolate Muslim terrorists

the reason being they radicalise other prisoners who already HATE everyone...

so other ethnic terrorists will go into mainstream terrorist enclaves..in this case prisons

we have not built any special accommodation for non muslim terrorists in this country..

in Goulburn jail they segregate yep its the only jail in the country that allows that to happen....

reason being they send the worst of the worst there.. so they cage them all separately....but of course they can still communicate because its impossible to keep each group out of sight of each other...

hence Maxi....more isolated and guarded....

I mean these terrorist HATE like no one else HATES.... >:(

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:13pm

Ah unfortunately you can lead a Prog to water but you can't make one think.

Honestly even when spoonfed facts they still refuse to address reality.

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:16pm

Oh and peccerhead, I do get the title... apparently you don't but if I was to be like you a totally disingenuous pedant, I'd have no time to do more than complain about the topic titles created by LW progs like yourself on this site... :D :D :D
Time you Progs addressed the main act and not fart about with sideshows. ::)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:16pm:

well grendel look at it this way..

if they choose to live in denial... thats their problem

some folks find it hard to believ

the reason not many muslims have killed people in Australia is because they are in JAIL before they get the chance..

thanks to some very quick thinking brave people..
who arrest these mongrels.....but they dont want to talk about them do they?.. :(

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:16pm:

Oh and peccerhead, I do get the title...

So do I.

I get that it's a lie.

Muslims aren't getting their own prison in NSW.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:49pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Today here are only Muslim terrorists in jail in Australia.
It's not a fluke, Mothra.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:49pm

Thank you gweggy for proving me right about you once again... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:53pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:11am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

So that's about $1 million per prisoner.
That's too much public money.

Just some barbed wire 10 meter high fences on a farm &
4 guard towers with machine guns & search lights would be a lot cheaper.

I could build a prison to keep them for $5 a day.

My idea would be even cheaper. :)

Ah, see my idea would cost the taxpayers $5 a day per prisoner, but it would actually make a lot of money.

But what is your idea?

Either that, or they'd stab the rabbi in the neck with a sharpened chicken bone.

Do you really think it is a good idea to force religious education on people as a form of punishment?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm

One more time for the Uber Dumb...

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:34am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:27am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

I hope they prepare a mass grave site at the same time.

Behold! Another one who bought it.

I think some people call them "sheeple".

[quote]Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ prison - Australia news ...
myexpress.com.au/natipnal/crime/inside-australias-super-mosque-prison
Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ prison. Video; Image; A restrained is eliminated to Goulburn Supermax. Inmates in a Goulburn categorical yard where Australian ...

Quote:

Oh look YOU were wrong and they were right...

Quote:

Australia building [highlight]'Muslim terrorist-only supermax prison ...[/highlight]
https://www.sott.net/article/353473-Australia-building-Muslim...
The government is planning to spend ... had to make" as there are "too many terrorists in Supermax" at Goulburn, NSW ... Australia building 'Muslim terrorist-only ...

Quote:

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:53am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:48am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

We don't have any other kinds of terrorists? :-?

Funny you should ask that.

The vast majority (good morning Wes) of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia, were carried out by non-Muslims.

Quick whip out those 'facts' from 20 to 40 years ago, that'll show 'em. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ya lying fkken cretin.

Those terrorists are gone, the only ones we need to worry about scream allah fkken akbar before murdering proper Australians.

Should some other type of terrorist show up, they will be dealt with accordingly, until then let's not obfuscate the fact of the current situation shall we, ya apologist!

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Today there are only Muslim terrorists in jail in Australia.

Link?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:03pm

I was actually expecting the apologists to complain that this is unfairly targeting or labelling Muslims. But you went with denialism instead. It's not too late to change your mind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:36am:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 7:18am:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

Muslims have been asking for safe rooms for years now. Finally they get what they want.

Er, no.

It's a prison for terrorists - not Muslims.

How embarrassed do you feel now?

How many Hindu terrorists do you think are going to end up in there?

"Muslims"? "Hindus"?

The prison has nothing to do with religion.

It's for terrorists.

Some terrorists are atheists.

Why must everything be about religion with you?

Good point. So, how many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists?

FD keeps doing that.

I wonder what he gets out of it?

I'm genuinely intrigued.

Maybe he gets Herbie to write his thread titles.

Nice dodge, but I'm asking for a guess or estimate, not a prediction. That shouldn't be too difficult. For starters, you can rule out 1000, as it only holds about 50 people. There are not that many Muslims in prison.

My guess is 100% of them will be Muslims. You?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

can you tell us how many muslim and non muslim people are in our jails right at this moment

not for daring to set off a bomb ... but just for planning to set off bombs or other devises to cause death..
we do klnow only a few terrorist acts have happened ion this country..

we are so lucky we have GREAT intelligence. I personally thank god for that...however there are many many on watch lists and being monitored 24/7...

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

perhaps you can tell us the full story on whos being watched and who isnt??..

how many white aussies being watched covertly gweg??... ones that have no allegiance to ISIL that is..

I am interested to know..and I know you have all the details..

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

You haven't posted the 'facts' from the 1970's to cover up the fact that the information is NOT relevant and is only used to appease and apologise for your muslim terrorist mates.

We have been here several time before fkkhead, wasn't relevant then isn't relevant now.

Your 1960's and 70's boogie men are gone, only muslims now. :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:17pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Really, you are such a disingenuous prat. Do you think you are clever do you think your dishonest twisting and pedantry is actually clever. It just makes you a low life smart arse peccer, pathetic and without credibility.
How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia? Who were they planned by?
How many terrorist or would be terrorists are in Australian gaols? Who are they?
How many Australians have been killed or lost their lives in terrorist acts? Who carried out those acts?
How many Muslims are being monitored or on a watch list by ASIO and the AFP as threats to the Australian people? What other religions are also on that list?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Really...

Yes, really.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm

Let's try thinking this through Greg and Mothra, if that's not too much of a challenge. Suppose you were in charge of deciding which facility prisoners go to, and you ended up with a Christian terrorist on your hands who had blown up a mosque. Where would you put him? In with all the Muslim terrorists? Try thinking before answering.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Suppose you were in charge of deciding which facility prisoners go to, and you ended up with a white murderer on your hands who had killed an Aboriginal man. Where would you put him? In with all the Aboriginal criminals? Try thinking before answering.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

All the Muslims who have planned or cimmitted terrorist acts in the name of Islam.

It's not hard, Mothra. You just have to see the causal link between Islam, Muslims and their violent acts.
God knows, there are examples every day.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:33pm

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

rehashed for gweggy or anyone who has the FACTS....

that gweggy keeps talking about.. :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Today there are only Muslim terrorists in jail in Australia.

Link?

Frank, you forgot to cite your reference.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

this is called NOT DEFLECTING>> ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

Not just Muslim terrorists, Grendel. No matter how much you fantasise about it.

Today there are only Muslim terrorists in jail in Australia.

Link?

Frank, you forgot to cite your reference.

so he did.. shame Frank.

what about your referencing sweetcheeks. :) :) :)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

All the Muslims who have planned or committed terrorist acts in the name of Islam.

It's not hard, Mothra. You just have to see the causal link between Islam, Muslims and their violent acts.
God knows, there are examples every day.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

It does. It most certainly does.
WHen they drive a van down the footpath of London Bridge and and then start slashing women - they were targeting women - in the name of Islam, they are Muslim terrorists.
When they blow themselves up for Allah at a concert attended mostly by teenage girls, they are Muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO... but that wasnt my question.. :)

try not to deflect sweetcheeks... you are better than that surely!

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:39pm

Ah NO... he's not...

never has been... never will be...

So gweggy where are the facts you so love in answer to my questions?
Wassup?
Choking on the answers are we? Poor diddums. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:42pm

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

You have trouble isolating intent (or theorised intent) with action. Yes?

We should lock people up and throw away the key for ideas?

They have committed no crime.

What if i (as an animal rights activist) planned to break into a lab, rescue the animals then burn it down?

What if i, as an environmental activist, put spikes in a tree designated to be felled?

Have you properly looked at this legislation, Frank?

I don't think you have.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm

Well you just proved you dont mothra.
You also seem to favour criminal actions.
Actions that not only involve trespass, theft, vandalism, arson, endangering life but a distinct lack of common-sense.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

They are murdering people for Allah, Mothra.

Murdering. People. For Allah.

You could not POSSIBLY miss that, yet you talk about trees and labs. Islamic terrorism is about MURDERING people, Mothra, for Allah.

See if you can get that into your exquisitely uncritical and thick head.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:58pm

Hush now Grendel. The grown-ups are talking.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:00pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

How many people have been "murdered for Allah" in Australia, Frank?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Hush now Grendel. The grown-ups are talking.

Really?
is that all you've got... TROLL....

why don't you try debating in a kindergarten, might be more to your level of debate. :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Still being disingenuous I see gweggy...
So still running away from my questions I see.
Wassup.... Chicken? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Cant face the truth? Still running away?
:D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:13pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

How many people have been "murdered for Allah" in Australia, Frank?

Kai Hao
Curtis Cheng
Zeeshan Akbar
Tori Johnson
Katrina Dawson
Many other Australians have been killed abroad for Allah, most recently in London.
Many plots have been disrupted and there have been a a number of attempted murders.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

frank, I admire your patience.

It is hard to progress with some people though.
They are resolute in refusing to see facts.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

The problem at hand being apologists like you.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

The problem at hand being apologists like you.

And what about the craven apologists like yourself?

You are the worst of them all, why are you so frightened of offending the terrorists, you know they will kill the cowards first don't you?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:46pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

The problem at hand being apologists like you.

And what about the craven apologists like yourself?

I'm not an apologist for murderers.

I've said on several occasions that I unreservedly & unconditionally condemn all terrorists and all terrorist activity.

They are cowards, in the true sense of the word, and need to be punished to the full extent of our law.

You, however, seem reluctant to condemn all terrorism.

Moreover, you never want to blame the individual: you always look for an excuse, such as religion.

Apologist.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Neither of you are capable of answering eh?

Greg, we do not have special prisons set aside for aborigines. We do have one that will shortly be full of Muslim terrorists.

BTW, you two are also incapable of offering a guess as to how many Muslims will be in this new terrorist prison. Why is that? Are you afraid of your own thoughts?

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

What if i (as an animal rights activist) planned to break into a lab, rescue the animals then burn it down?

How many animal rights activists do you expect to end up in this new terrorist prison? How many atheist terrorists do you think will end up in there? How many communist terrorists? How many environmentalist terrorists? How many Hindu terrorists?

Which other terrorist groups do you know of that are actively recruiting in prisons, creating the need for this special one? Which ones are killing inmates who convert and then change their mind?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:49am

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Impossible to predict.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Impossible to predict.

Impossible for you, because you're an idiot, but for the rest of us pretty fkken easy.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

The problem at hand being apologists like you.

And what about the craven apologists like yourself?

Your apologetic cowardice stems not from you hollow words but your unwillingness to accept the difficult choices.

You are a socialist you demand others do the hard work and make the difficult choices while you pass judgement on those actions.

You like the rest of your soft c0ck cohort will achieve nothing with your apologist attitude to a serious threat to this country.

The chattering classes is as worthless as the muslim terrorist who attack us.

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem that does not start and end with "condemning the muslim terrorists".

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:09am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/islamic-state-calls-on-followers-to-attack-australia-during-holy-month-of-ramadan/news-story/c67a6ad3d256d40d2f4e0e5f7bd86634

AN AUDIO message purporting to come from the spokesman of Islamic State called on followers to launch attacks in Australia during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, which began in late May.

The audio clip was distributed on Monday on Islamic State’s channel on Telegram, an encrypted messaging application.

It was attributed to the militant group’s official spokesman, Abi al-Hassan al-Muhajer.

Other countries named in the message include the United States, Europe, Russia, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and The Philippines.

like I have already said..

I give credit to our Security mob who are doing a wonderful job and putting them in jail before they blow anyone up..

you sir fail to acknowledge that small fact..

because it suits your agenda to protect muslim extremists...of which we have a few in this country...

again something you barely mention...

like fd has asked you... who do you expect to see in this new terrorist only jail in Goulburn???......

do you expect Muslims or maybe Catholics.. ::) ::) ::)
will fill it up?...

its just a question give us a clue.......read the above link.. and tell us which religion is behind those threats............

being selective doesnt give you any credibility gweg.. :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:14am

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:09am:

because it suits your agenda to protect muslim extremists...of which we have a few in this country...

I don't want to protect any extremist, cods.

As I've said on so many occasions now: I unreservedly and unconditionally condemn all terrorists and their cowardly terrorist acts.

It's a shame other people won't do the same.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

See what I mean?

You need education.

You need to learn that the biggest threat to your safety isn't Muslim terrorists.

Nor is it non-Muslim terrorists.

Sure, they're out there.

And sure, some of us are going to become their victims.

However, we all have a much greater chance of being killed on the road than we do of falling victim to some nut-job with a knife/gun/bomb.

You see, you're one of the easy targets that "the man" loves to manipulate.

Divide & conquer.

Rule by fear.

It's probably too late for you to be saved, however, cutting down on your regular dose of 60 Minutes, ACA, Andrew Bolt, and talk-back radio might give you a little relief.

Oh, and look both ways when you cross the road today, okay? ;)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

cods wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

as you seem to be such an expert and keep telling us we have more non muslim terrorists doing nasty things...

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

Do you dispute this fact?

NO...

Good. We're on the same page.

definitely not whatever gave you that idea.?..

We both agree that the vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up to and including today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

The vast majority of terrorist deaths in this country in the last 10 years are muslim caused.

Time to focus on the problem at hand.

The problem at hand being apologists like you.

And what about the craven apologists like yourself?

Then you are a self deluded hypocrite and liar. Because you use pedantry , misquotes, ridicule, obfuscation, deliberate misinterpretation, etc, etc, etc... to argue against people who have valid points and actually do " unreservedly & unconditionally condemn all terrorists and all terrorist activity."
tsk, tsk, tsk.... :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Before i think, FD, would you like to define what you mean by "all the Muslim terrorists"?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Poor Frank. That doesn't make them terrorists, now does it.

How many people have been "murdered for Allah" in Australia, Frank?

Yes Frank she is both a clueless and disingenuous Prog. Suffers from self delusion and irrationality. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

I never at anytime made any such statement. well done fkkhead. ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're done here, fkk off home.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:14am:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:09am:

because it suits your agenda to protect muslim extremists...of which we have a few in this country...

hilarious..

do you still stand by this gweg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:16pm:

Oh and peccerhead, I do get the title...

So do I.

I get that it's a lie.

Muslims aren't getting their own prison in NSW.

I am sure you do being a lefty who is never wrong... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:58am

So Gweggy since you claim to be an honest broker and against all those things Muslim Terrorists uphold, how about you stop avoiding my questions and answer them? Instead of avoiding them and playing disingenuous pedantic word games to avoid posting the truth... I mean you wouldn't be a dishonest lying hypocrite would you?

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:42pm:

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

Get your eyes checked.

Everything I said is true.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

Get your eyes checked.

Everything I said is true.

No you tried to cover up your seriously failing argument by committing your usual lies and horse sh1t statements.

Run along little man, you lost this one, as per usual. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:11am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

Get your eyes checked.

Everything I said is true.

No you tried to cover up your seriously failing argument by committing your usual lies and horse sh1t statements.

Run along little man, you lost this one, as per usual.

My argument is rock solid.

We all have a much greater chance of being killed on the road than we do of falling victim to some nut-job with a knife/gun/bomb.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

Get your eyes checked.

Everything I said is true.

No you tried to cover up your seriously failing argument by committing your usual lies and horse sh1t statements.

Run along little man, you lost this one, as per usual.

My argument is rock solid.

We all have a much greater chance of being killed on the road than we do of falling victim to some nut-job with a knife/gun/bomb.

Not the lies I was talking about.

Remember you're fkking dullard that thinks that hiding bald faced lies in amongst a few soft truths validates the lies.

It doesn't and you're still a piece of sh1t liar. :) :) :)

Run along you're done here.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am

Oh gweggy....
Still avoiding the truth I see...
Still claiming to be an honest broker. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:28am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

Resorting to lies again I see.

Get your eyes checked.

Everything I said is true.

No you tried to cover up your seriously failing argument by committing your usual lies and horse sh1t statements.

Run along little man, you lost this one, as per usual.

My argument is rock solid.

We all have a much greater chance of being killed on the road than we do of falling victim to some nut-job with a knife/gun/bomb.

ahhhh more deflection.no surprises there.

and no credit to our great Security Service

thanks to the libs.. ::) ::)

if it was left to Labor we would still be having the fleet arriving from Java...courtesy of people smugglers..

another white flag...

but dont give credit where its due gweggy..

now hes comparing to the road toll.. :o :o :o :o

makes sense to some.

shame he forgot more people die in bed isnt it?.. :)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:40am

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

if it was left to Labor we would still be having the fleet arriving from Java...courtesy of people smugglers..

What does that have to do with this thread?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:45am

Oh Gweggy, I'm still waiting.
I'm sure we are all still waiting for you to address reality and stop the obfuscation and running away...

Time to answer those questions gweggy, time to fess up and stop the dishonesty.
You are fooling no one and everyone is calling you out.
Time to stop making yourself look foolish and dishonest.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Impossible to predict.

You have already said this. And I have already responded. Did you miss that, or are you just afraid of your own thoughts on the matter? Is it really asking too much for you to think before responding? This isn't some kind of unfathomable mystery. The prison was built for Muslim terrorists in response to the specific problems of what they are doing in our jails, and it will house Muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?

I don't have access to that number. Do you?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

Who were they planned by?

Terrorists, or would-be terrorists, is my guess.

What do you think?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Impossible to predict.

As well as other extremists.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm

No other extremists groups are killing fellow inmate recruits because they discard the superficial nonsense for their parole hearings. No other extremist group presents a recognisable problem of recruiting in our jails. Only Islam. That is why it will be Muslims in the jail. Even if there were anti-Islam terrorists in our jails, only an idiot would put them in the Muslim section. It would be like a cage fight to the death. Of course, you and Mothra suggest exactly that, but only because you are incapable of thinking it through.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

Come back when you have an actual solution to the problem

The solution is education.

People like you need to be educated.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of Libtard ignorance.

Don't you think?

And all those radical murdering muslim terrorists will just, what?

You muslim apologist fkken cretin, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good thing is they will probably kill you apologist / cowards first

No-one in Australia is afraid to criticise or mock dangerous drivers. People are however afraid to criticise and mock Islam and Muhammad, because if they do a good enough job at it, the risk of death is actually very high - far higher than the risk of getting run over.

So, once more, think about it, if it is not too much to ask - who is actually ruling by fear?

The only reason Muslims are not slaughtering, enslaving and raping us by the millions is because we have literally spent over a milliennia driving them back, with great effort and at the cost of many lives. Those who do not heed the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them, and you sound no more intelligent than someone insisting we should respect Nazis because the vast majority of them are normal people. You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it, but all it really means is that the Nazis won, and you are cheering them on.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:40am:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

if it was left to Labor we would still be having the fleet arriving from Java...courtesy of people smugglers..

What does that have to do with this thread?

same as your road kill mate...

what about some praise for our SECURITY.. that keeps us safe and muslim terrorists in JAIL before they can act??..

anything anything at all.. denialist!..

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 1:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

what about the other questions.?????..

or cant you answer those... :) :)

we will take that as a Win for the goodies.. ;) ;)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 1:23pm

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

what about some praise for our SECURITY.. .

Good on our security.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 1:55pm

Well here we are again... it seems gweggy is still refusing to try and answer these questions. Not difficult questions unless you don't like speaking the truth or admitting you are wrong... right gweggy?

You've kept dodging them gweggy, saying you speak the truth, you're an honest broker, yet your big claim is that the topic title is a lie... well it may be inaccurate, just like "nearly all" those other articles from the MSM I mentioned, yet YOU gweggy think YOU have a point. It seems an inaccurate topic title on ozpol is much more important than terrorists killing people and plotting to kill people in Australia.
Talk about a disingenuous hypocrite eh gweggy... so here we are again waiting patiently for you to address the truth by answering my questions... not creating strawmen or obfuscating, not by lying and deliberately sidetracking the topic.
Time to answer the questions gweggy.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Really, you are such a disingenuous prat. Do you think you are clever do you think your dishonest twisting and pedantry is actually clever. It just makes you a low life smart arse peccer, pathetic and without credibility.
How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?
Who were they planned by?

How many terrorist or would be terrorists are in Australian gaols?
Who are they?

How many Australians have been killed or lost their lives in terrorist acts?
Who carried out those acts?

How many Muslims are being monitored or on a watch list by ASIO and the AFP as threats to the Australian people?
What other religions are also on that list?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:04pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Well here we are again... it seems gweggy is still refusing to try and answer these questions. ~~Not difficult questions unless you don't like speaking the truth or admitting you are wrong... right gweggy?~~

[s]You've kept dodging them gweggy, saying you speak the truth, you're an honest broker, yet your big claim is that the topic title is a lie... well it may be inaccurate, just like "nearly all" those other articles from the MSM I mentioned, yet YOU gweggy think YOU have a point. It seems an inaccurate topic title on ozpol is much more important than terrorists killing people and plotting to kill people in Australia.
Talk about a disingenuous hypocrite eh gweggy... so here we are again waiting patiently for you to address the truth by answering my questions... not creating strawmen or obfuscating, not by lying and deliberately sidetracking the topic.
Time to answer the questions gweggy.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Really, you are such a disingenuous prat. Do you think you are clever do you think your dishonest twisting and pedantry is actually clever. It just makes you a low life smart arse peccer, pathetic and without credibility.
How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?
Who were they planned by?

How many terrorist or would be terrorists are in Australian gaols?
Who are they?

How many Australians have been killed or lost their lives in terrorist acts?
Who carried out those acts?

How many Muslims are being monitored or on a watch list by ASIO and the AFP as threats to the Australian people?
What other religions are also on that list?

[/s]

[/s]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1497136999/118#118

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

At least you have one this right, everything muslims believe is wrong even if they are too stupid to realise it.

Once they understand that they a re fkking deluded morons, maybe they'll stop believing that killing innocent people will get them laid. Im mean how fkken moronic is that? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?

I don't have access to that number. Do you?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

Who were they planned by?

Terrorists, or would-be terrorists, is my guess.

What do you think?

Oh dear.... you don't answer questions by asking questions gweggy... I ignored your obfuscation and asked you time and time again... ANSWER the QUESTIONS...

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?

I don't have access to that number. Do you?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

Who were they planned by?

Terrorists, or would-be terrorists, is my guess.

What do you think?

Oh dear.... ...

Indeed.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

One more time peccerhead...
Stop the obfuscation, or admit being a lying hypocrite.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Hey gweggy....

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:56pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Ya lying fkken cretin.

No lies.

The vast majority of terrorist acts that have occurred in Australia (right up until today), were carried out by non-Muslims.

It's an undeniable fact.

Really, you are such a disingenuous prat. Do you think you are clever do you think your dishonest twisting and pedantry is actually clever. It just makes you a low life smart arse peccer, pathetic and without credibility.
How many terrorist acts have been carried out or prevented in Australia?
Who were they planned by?

How many terrorist or would be terrorists are in Australian gaols?
Who are they?

How many Australians have been killed or lost their lives in terrorist acts?
Who carried out those acts?

How many Muslims are being monitored or on a watch list by ASIO and the AFP as threats to the Australian people?
What other religions are also on that list?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:19pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 2:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

At least you have one this right ...

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 7:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

Why do you constantly deny the link between Islam and violence, when you would not do the same for Nazism?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 7:21pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

You assume Islam is a legitimate belief just because over a billion people hold it.

Nope.

I don't see any religion as a legitimate belief.

Why do you constantly deny the link between Islam and violence, when you would not do the same for Nazism?

There's a link between some Muslims and violence (just as there's a link between some Christians and violence).

I can't believe you're comparing Islam with Nazism, though.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Quote:

There's a link between some Muslims and violence

What about Islam? Or are you yet to make the leap from thought to action?

Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Quote:

There's a link between some Muslims and violence

What about Islam? Or are you yet to make the leap from thought to action?

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm

Lets try an entire step in a single thought process. Is there a link between Islam and violence?

Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

~~Lets try an entire step in a single thought process.~~ Is there a link between Islam and violence?

~~Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?~~

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:28pm

Keep trying Greg. One day you'll manage a straight answer.

Is there a link between Islam and violence?

Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Acting on the text is the crucial point you are trying, unsuccessfully, to miss, Turdy.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:33pm

I wonder if Greg will condemn the violence in nursery rhymes before he acknowledges the link between Islam and violence.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:36pm

Frank wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Acting on the text is the crucial point you are trying, unsuccessfully, to miss, Turdy.

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both, and I condemn anyone who acts on it.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

How many people have been "murdered for Allah" in Australia, Frank?

Yes Frank she is both a clueless and disingenuous Prog. Suffers from self delusion and irrationality. :D :D :D

Yes - and they are absolutely sinister and dangerous.

Compare the number of innocent civilians murdered by Muslims in the West to the number of Muslims that have been killed in the West as a result of the backlash in response to jihad?

The backlash just never happens.

But who are the "victims"? The Muslims, the perpetrators of murderous jihad on innocent Westerners. They murder teenagers at a concert, they drive truck into crowds - but dare to look at them askance, in they stupid niqabs and hijabs, and they will immediately seize the victim status and start shaking you down for funding (jizya) for safe places to rubbish the West unimpeded. On the benefit.

Time to start deporting Muslims in large numbers. They have been repaying our hospitality with murder.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

Hey Greg, is there a link between Islam and violence?

Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?

Would you rather condemn the violence in nursery rhymes than acknowledging or even talk about whether there is a link between Islam and violence?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:40pm:

Time to start deporting Muslims in large numbers. They have been repaying our hospitality with murder.

The vast majority (good evening Wes) of murderers in Australia are not Muslims.

Ever get the feeling you might be focusing on the wrong thing?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Are you trying to be a politician Greg? At least they pretend to be answering the question.

In what sense is violence 'from' religion?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:23am:

It's a good start hey ;)

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Are you trying to be a politician Greg? At least they pretend to be answering the question.

We can safely say you're not a politician then.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Ummmm.....out of sheer kindness and compassion I'll give YOU a CHANCE to carefully read your blooming stupid article before I blast you outta here.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm

Don't wait, you idiot! Do it now!

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Ummmm.....out of sheer kindness and compassion I'll give YOU a CHANCE to carefully read your blooming stupid article before I blast you outta here.

White flag accepted.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Ummmm.....out of sheer kindness and compassion I'll give YOU a CHANCE to carefully read your blooming stupid article before I blast you outta here.

White flag accepted.

What white flag you fool?

Had a chance to READ your bloming pathetic article yet?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:13pm

From Gweggy's article :

Conclusion ???

"I must also reemphasize that this analysis is superficial and the findings are by no means intended to be conclusive."

;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

From Gweggy's article :

Conclusion ???

"I must also reemphasize that this analysis is superficial and the findings are by no means intended to be conclusive."

;D

You really are an idiot.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:37pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 12:29pm:

You shoot them for about and save a heap of money, just make the enemy combatants instead of common criminals.

Either that, or simply deport them to the Middle East and cut out all the bullshit.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

There is plenty of violence in a Tarantino movie also. But people do not seriously believe there are instructions from God in it to slaughter the infidel. Not so with Islam. Once again Greg demonstrates his refusal to join the dots himself.

Hence the questions that Greg cannot possibly give a straight answer to:

Is there a link between Islam and violence?

Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?

Would you rather condemn the violence in nursery rhymes than acknowledging or even talk about whether there is a link between Islam and violence?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

No, FD, instructions on how to slaughter gentiles, blasphemers, adulterers, sorcerers and even those who went too close to Mt Sinai (people and animals). Actual detailed instructions from God on high. Burning at the stake, stoning to death, cutting off their limbs. How to do it and to whom - all in the Bible.

But for some reason, Jews are quite nice these days, despite their holy book telling them not to be. How do you account for this?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 11:05am

Not that it has anything to do strictly with the topic either eh gweggy... or that you are not a spineless apologist for Islam in any way shape or form eh.

How many times do you need to take a battering on this shyte before you give up exactly... because we've been over it with you so many times before.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 11:06am

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

They are not insane like the Muslim nutjobs that slaughter each other and innocents all over the world...

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:40pm:

Time to start deporting Muslims in large numbers. They have been repaying our hospitality with murder.

The vast majority (good evening Wes) of murderers in Australia are not Muslims.

Ever get the feeling you might be focusing on the wrong thing?

There has never been a single Australian who murdered his fellow Australians for Allah. Not one.

Get rid of the sons of Allah. They contribute nothing but murder and mayhem. Let the Saudis give them shelter.

We can deal with our own miscreants, we do not need culturally hostile Muslims to wreak havoc in our society. They do not accept our moral code so we cannot influence or understand them.

Apostates are welcome. The rest should be under surveillance and expelled at the first sign of jihadi tendencies. Spiritual Muslims are OK, as are the hijabi mums with the big arses in tight jeans at the kiddie soccer. Stupid but harmless.

Hair?? Who cares about her hair?

Muslim blokes with beards and attitude between 10 and 45 - watch them, expel them, they are the army of Allah.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.

I condemn them both.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.

I wonder why that is.

Acting on the text is the crucial point you are trying, unsuccessfully, to miss, Turdy.

Nobody is acting on the Christian texts, scores of Saracens are acting on the Islamic test.

You stupid, ignorant Turdy McTurd.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by freediver on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Diaspora, among other things.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:35pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Diaspora, among other things.

Explain, stupid.

(it is a stupid proposition. from you it's usual stuff. For us thinking people, it's stupid. Show us how you thing you are not stupid. )

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 12:11am

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Diaspora, among other things.

Explain, stupid.

(it is a stupid proposition. from you it's usual stuff. For us thinking people, it's stupid. Show us how you thing you are not stupid. )

Well, seeing as you asked so nicely.

FD?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by gandalf on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 8:24am

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

For one thing there's a lot fewer of them. Secondly, the more militant ones achieved their ultimate goal - a state of their own. In any case, it hasn't stopped them continuing to oppress and slaughter the Palestinians.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 8:37am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Ummmm.....out of sheer kindness and compassion I'll give YOU a CHANCE to carefully read your blooming stupid article before I blast you outta here.

White flag accepted.

What white flag you fool?

Had a chance to READ your bloming pathetic article yet?

Seems he hasn't ;D

From Gweggy's very own dumb @rse article :

Conclusion ???

"I must also reemphasize that this analysis is superficial and the findings are by no means intended to be conclusive."

Thanks for playing. But you lose. Again ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 9:16am

"Further analysis found the Old Testament was more violent than the New Testament, and more than twice as violent as the Quran."

Oh dear.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 9:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 9:16am:

"Further analysis found the Old Testament was more violent than the New Testament, and more than twice as violent as the Quran."

Oh dear.

And as soon as we get our very own old testament christian terrorists, I have no doubt they will have their own prison to rot and die in too.

Until then lets focus on the real problem, muslim terrorists.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 9:26am

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1497565282/16#16

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 1:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

From Gweggy's article :

Conclusion ???

"I must also reemphasize that this analysis is superficial and the findings are by no means intended to be conclusive."

;D

You really are an idiot.

Ah no Aussie.
She really nailed gweggy's peccerhead.
YOU are an idiot.

:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.
The issue is violence today in the real world peccerhead. Not the book about Jewish religious history. Where by the way many tribes fought one another and Jews were made slaves by the Egyptians and the Romans.. We are talking about the world today... I note you refuse once again to acknowledge the barbarism and violence of Muslims in the world today. It's just textual right? :D

I condemn them both.
What the texts?
I condemn those who murder in the name of their God. Maybe you should try it occasionally, instead of being an apologist and continually confronting us with excuses.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.
Seems you are a spineless apologist.

I wonder why that is.
I don't care why you are or why you continually lie about it.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 1:48pm

Grendel, bless, despite you being utterly objectionable, i have started to feel really sorry for you.

I expect to be insulted for this post but never mind.

Really sorry for you.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 1:57pm

Me too... Nothing I hate more than reading crap from a useless TROLL
and you are both.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by mothra on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 2:05pm

You are aware that doesn't make any sense? Yes?

Poor Grendel.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 3:23pm

I'm aware you are a useless TROLL with apparently comprehension problems to go along with your denial and irrationality.

I hope that helps. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 1:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
[s]Lets try an entire step in a single thought process. Is there a link between Islam and violence?

~~Would you put a terrorist who blew up a Mosque into this new prison with all the Muslim terrorists?~~

There is violence in Islamic texts, just as there is violence in Christian texts.
The issue is violence today in the real world peccerhead. Not the book about Jewish religious history. Where by the way many tribes fought one another and Jews were made slaves by the Egyptians and the Romans.. We are talking about the world today... I note you refuse once again to acknowledge the barbarism and violence of Muslims in the world today. It's just textual right? :D

I condemn them both.
What the texts?
I condemn those who murder in the name of their God. Maybe you should try it occasionally, instead of being an apologist and continually confronting us with excuses.

Seems you only have an issue with violence from one religion.
Seems you are a spineless apologist.

I wonder why that is.
I don't care why you are or why you continually lie about it.
[/s]

Loosey Goosey is having a breakdown.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 3:52pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 12:11am:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Diaspora, among other things.

Explain, stupid.

(it is a stupid proposition. from you it's usual stuff. For us thinking people, it's stupid. Show us how you thing you are not stupid. )

Well, seeing as you asked so nicely.

FD?

Actually, I meant to ask you, not FD. I don't know how he sneaked in there but I wasn't talking to him but you.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 4:25pm

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 3:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 12:11am:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

There's a hell of a lot of violence in Islamic texts.

Where is the violence in our Christian texts?? Hmmmm?

Here you go, darling: 'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals

Diaspora, among other things.

Explain, stupid.

(it is a stupid proposition. from you it's usual stuff. For us thinking people, it's stupid. Show us how you thing you are not stupid. )

Well, seeing as you asked so nicely.

FD?

Actually, I meant to ask you, not FD. I don't know how he sneaked in there but I wasn't talking to him but you.

The Diaspora? I have no idea. FD has this theory that the Jews undertook some form of reform when they left Palestine for Europe. FD's shown no evidence for this, he says it's just common sense.

FD never explains it. I had to prise that much out of him. If you ask what he means, FD just says, Diaspora.

Who knows? Maybe it's a password or a magic spell. Maybe FD's a genie in a bottle and I have to say the magic word to let him out.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 7:10pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

The Jews fit in. Muslims don't.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/17a90223443e46f99db70245a7221920?width=650

Faces of evil among us.
100 years in jail for the pair of bastard sons of Allah.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Karnal on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

The Jews fit in. Muslims don't.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/17a90223443e46f99db70245a7221920?width=650

Faces of evil among us.
100 years in jail for the pair of bastard sons of Allah.

Yes, dear boy, those beards, black hats and wigs for the ladies are most becoming, but the question here is one of theology.

How is the Muselman so diabolical and evil when the Koran is much nicer than the Torah?

Diaspora?

Sorry, FD, back in your bottle.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 7:57pm

Oh dear.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Why are muslims being gaoled and not jews?

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Frank on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 12:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 7:57pm:

Oh dear.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Why are muslims being gaoled and not jews?

Because of Racism, of course.

Title: Re: Muslims to get their own prison in NSW
Post by Grendel on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 12:45pm

OH... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D