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Title: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

In 2011 Qadri issued a 600 page fatwa supposedly outlawing Islamic terror, why did Qadri need 600 pages for this fatwa?

From your link-

Quote:

It also declared Jihad a jurisdiction of Islamic state...

I guess the Islamic state has the authority to declare Jihad, that's who all the recent terrorists claim to represent. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:59am

Apologist.

Why do the Islamophobes continue to make excuses?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Gordon on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 8:38am

Who believes anything that comes out of Pakistan, religious-terror central.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:01am

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 8:38am:

Who believes anything that comes out of Pakistan, religious-terror central.

you don't have trouble believing it when it pushes your agenda

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am

I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?

or this

London Bridge attack: Muslim families hand out roses with messages of disgust at extremism

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/flowers-to-condemn-london-attacks-handed-out-by-muslim-families/8595370

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:42am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Actions speak louder than words

The terrorists can hid behind the apologist all they want, but while they are still killing 'whitey' they are still the enemy and shall be treated as such.

While the enemy gets to hide in plain site of their own communities, nothing that is said is worth a snatch full of cold water.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Rhino on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Rhino on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:58am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Get back to us when they issue fatwas against Mosques and Imans propogating hate speech.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:01am

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

They don't need forgiveness dopey. They didn't do anything.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:03am

Well that solved that then bwian hey... no more suicide attacks.... hooray....

Oh bwian... bwian.... why do YOU think the fatwa did not work? :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:04am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:42am:

While the enemy gets to hide in plain site of their own communities, nothing that is said is worth a snatch full of cold water.

A coalition of 41 Muslim-majority nations is working to create a mobile military force to combat the Islamic State (ISIS) group in Iraq and Syria and militant threats across northern and western Africa.

http://www.newsweek.com/muslim-countries-forming-military-alliance-fight-terrorism-586315

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:07am

Oh and bwian while we are at it, why did it take so long for them to do this, 1000s of people could have been saved if they did it years ago... right?

As much as I think it is a good thing... as much as I wondered why it was never done before.... as much as it was my idea decades ago.... why isn't it working bwian?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:13am

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:04am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:42am:

While the enemy gets to hide in plain site of their own communities, nothing that is said is worth a snatch full of cold water.

Pretty much care about the ones hiding and killing in western countries, what the camel jockey do in their own countries is their business.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Yadda on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:26am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Quote:

ISLAMABAD: Religious scholars from all schools of thought on Saturday issued a fatwa (religious decree) that declared suicide attacks, armed insurgency against a state and use of force in the name of imposing Shariah as ‘Haram’ or forbidden in Islam.

Brian,

At your link, not a skerrick of the wording of this 'unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram'.

But this, in the Koran......

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Brian,

Moslems in the UK have also condemned the killing of innocent civilians.

But, sadly, that was just more moslem community deceit.

.

The cornerstone of ALL communication by moslems, with disbelievers, is lying and deceit and sophistry.

--------- >

A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:48am

Deny them, deport their families.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am

Faux Muslim leaders worse than no leaders at all
The Australian
12:00AM June 7, 2017
Janet Albrechtsen

A fortnight after an Islamic terrorist mowed down pedestrians on Westminster Bridge and then stabbed more people outside the British Houses of Parliament in March, Britain’s most prominent Muslim, London Mayor Sadiq Khan, spoke to The Guardian. “I don’t want, in 60 years time, our grandchildren to be saying, ‘What the f. k was Sadiq doing…?’ ”

The mayor of London was referring to his desire for a ban on smoking in public. “It’s a scandal,” Khan said, “when I saw the evidence that people knew about smoking 60 years ago, it beggared belief that nothing happened …”

If only Khan was so incensed when he spoke about Islamic terrorism during the interview. On that front, Khan didn’t wonder whether grandchildren would ask what the heck did Sadiq do? Instead, the mayor said his city had experienced terrorism for decades and “it makes us resilient”. ::)

If you’re not familiar with Khan, picture Waleed Aly. Both love the limelight. And let’s be honest, they’re sought out as the educated voices and pretty faces of moderate Islam. And both are textbook examples of the resolute ignorance from the political class about the deadly ideological war under way within Islam and between Islam and the West.

Surely Brits are tired of being resilient. On Saturday night, one of the Islamic terrorists shouted “this is for Allah” before stabbing a woman between 10 and 15 times. Three Islamic terrorists mowed down and murdered pedestrians on London Bridge before going from bar to bar, stabbing and slicing at patrons with 30cm hunting knives. Within eight minutes from the first emergency call, courageous police had fatally shot all three. Had these police officers not acted as they did, the Islamic terrorists would have slaughtered many more people that night.

What did Sadiq do? In the morning sunshine, against a verdant garden backdrop, the mayor of London, a Muslim no less, looked down a camera lens and said not a word about Islamic or even Islamist terrorists.

Khan mentioned terrorists and terrorism. But nothing about how his faith, Islam, is being used to justify the massacre of Londoners. Fronting a CNN camera a few hours later, Khan was asked about the British Prime Minister’s powerful words. More muttering about needing to evolve to find new ways to stay safe. More police officers, in uniform, in plain clothes, we will not be defeated, blah blah blah.

God help poor London police. British intelligence has identified 23,000 jihadis in Britain, so that means just 22,997 to go.

As a prominent Muslim leader, Khan should have said we cannot and must not pretend that things can continue as they are, that things need to change.

Instead, British Prime Minister Theresa May said that.

A Muslim leader should have said that defeating Islamist ideology is the greatest challenge of our time. But only May said that. Khan should have said we need to turn people’s minds away from violence towards our values, to something superior to anything offered by hate preachers. Alas, a white Christian prime minister, not a Muslim mayor, said that.

It should have been Khan who said we need to deprive extremists of safe spaces, not just online but in the real world. Khan could have said we, in the 21st century, are watching the deadly consequences of London becoming Londonistan in the late 20th century, when hate preachers expelled from the Middle East were welcomed into Britain in the name of multiculturalism. If only London’s Muslim mayor were frank and had said that there was far too much tolerance of extremism in Britain.

And it should have been Khan who said that we need to be more robust in identifying and stamping out Islamist extremism. Instead, the PM said that. Nor, sadly, did he say that to defeat Islamist extremism we need to have some difficult and embarrassing conversations. May said that, too.

Khan could have been just as brave as those British soldiers. He could have said that, while today is not the time, tomorrow, next week, and in coming months we, Muslims, must have a confronting doctrinal debate about Islam and our religious traditions because a contest of ideas is generating a contest of wills within our religion.

It’s not enough to jump in front of a camera after every attack to denounce violence and say “carry on”. We need to recognise that, unlike Christianity and Judaism, Islam does not have an exilic history: no deep learning tradition about living in exile, as Jewish psalms explore in their exile to Babylon; as there is through the New Testament, particularly in the teachings of St Paul.

Where is our Augustine of Hippo, the early Christian philosopher whose seminal work, The City of God, explains Christianity’s message as spiritual, not political? Where is our Treaty of Westphalia, that 1648 agreement that brokered the conflict between Christian sects in pre-modern Europe, pioneering a modern political state free from the shackles of religious rule?

pt 1

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:15am

pt 2

Khan could have said the absence of these traditions in Islam explains the modern clash between ancient and modern cultures. He might have said Muslims need to redirect deep cultural currents within Islam and sharia law to cement an unequivocal separation of mosque and state. This partition of politics and the state from the personal worship of Allah will help deliver the death knell to the political-religious ideology of Islamic terrorists.

Khan could have said to Christians, with respect, please don’t talk to us about a Reformation. Christianity’s Reformation was long and bloody. Imagine if Khan, as the face of modern Islam, had looked into the television cameras and said to Muslims: we cannot afford years’ more carnage. This is difficult. It is embarrassing. But as Muslims we must find a new doctrinal language that separates mosque from state so Islam is unambiguous about its role within secular modern states.

And we need to talk about “jihad”. Khan could have said that in a modern world, jihad can only ever mean that personal internal struggle about what it means to be a human being of religious faith. Only Muslims can reframe Islam to make it clear that jihad can no longer, not ever, mean violence. Jihad can only ever be a search for personal asceticism. This, too, will strip Islamic terrorists of their claim to be faithful martyrs murdering infidels to secure entry into heaven. They won’t be able to shout “this is for Allah” any more. If they murder people in Islam’s name, there will be no hereafter, only death as a mortal disgrace.

Alas, Khan is more incensed by a Trump tweet about his trite words than the Islamic feature of terrorism. Like Khan, Aly didn’t mention Islam or even Islamism in a long piece he penned for The New York Times last week. Media-eager Muslims such as Khan and Aly do their religion, their fellow Muslims and Western liberal democracies a disservice by failing to show genuine leadership. This is their fight. This is a doctrinal dispute within Islam. Christians and Jews have been there, done this. Khan and Aly could be the religious entrepreneurs, stripping ambiguity from their religion to place Islam squarely within modernity. In this ideological war, what a white Christian woman says counts for little to Muslims. Only Muslims can truly untether Islam from Islamic terrorists. Faux Muslim leadership is worse than no leadership.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:25am

So bwian, re your earth-shattering article... do YOU honestly think that 31 signatories on a fatwa is not going to be denied or ignored by the rest of the Umma?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Fireball on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:34am

Pecca, mothball, bwian, et al.......All of your sympathy is for muslims (irrespective of whether they are Jihadi muslims or not), not the 7 people who they butchered in London, four of whom were Australian, and one of those was a nurse who went back to help a women they’d already stabbed……..

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Here's your flawed thinking Rhino - in thinking that those muslims handing out roses have done something to be forgiven for.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:37pm

Really?
I think you are showing just how confused your thinking is Gandalf.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:55pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

In 2011 Qadri issued a 600 page fatwa supposedly outlawing Islamic terror, why did Qadri need 600 pages for this fatwa?

Because it Islamic Jurisprudence, Baron you need to prove the reasons why you are issuing the Fatwa. Ever read a Papal Bull? Nearly as many pages in the Mabo case? How many pages in the Wik case. Islamic theology is a mix of legalese and theocracy. You appear to believe it could be summarise in less than a paragraph. ::)

What is it with you Islamophobes? You demand proof and when it is provided you automatically and bigotedly automaticly discard it because of it's source. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Actions speak louder than words

And without a sound religious reason to undertake action, action will never occur, BigOl64. Remember the problems the US Government had manufacturing a cassis bello to invade Iraq in 2003? Weeks of lies and prevarication, all simply to do what they wanted to do, which was in the words of Bush junior, "save my daddy!" ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:02pm

LOL.... here we have bwian at it again another attempt to distract from the real situation. Gonna answer my questions for a change bwian?
No? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Come on bwian try addressing reality for a change, just how do you think the Umma is going to react to this fatwa by 31 "clerical scholars"? hmmmm?
Why hasn't the killing stopped bwian?
Hell it's 600 pages long bwian, surely that's enough jurisprudence to stop a herd of stampeding water buffalo?
Oh dear bwian.... your silence is golden... you offer excuses left right and centre, you ignore facts and counter with mindless distractions... tsk, tsk, tsk...
Nothing to see from you yet again eh bwian.... :D ;D :D ;D ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:02pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

Really?
I think you are showing just how confused your thinking is Gandalf.

You think they do have something to apologise for?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:04pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:34am:

Nope. Nope. Nope. As usual, in your Islamophobia, Fireball you attempt to erect a strawman argument. Can you quote one post where I have expressed any sympathy for Islamist Terrorists?

Here you go, here is a space for you (of course you'll ignore it 'cause that is what you lot do):

Quote:

I look forward keenly for you to provide that quote. I really am.

Or are you like Trump, only too willing to misquote people you don't like? Tsk, tsk.

My sympathies are for the victims of Terrorism and Persecution. Persecution by Islamophobes like you who hate all Muslims because you're afraid of them. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:06pm

Oh dear.... if you can't handle reality mothra just go away.
I know what I've said and I know why...

I'm pretty sure for everyone but YOU it's not a problem or hard to understand.

So Troll someone else.... I've answered you and you still keep trying to make something out of something non-existent.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:07pm

Hey bwian, those spaces you keep posting.... are you borrowing them from inside your head?
Honestly bwian, do try better, you are boring everyone to death. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:06pm:

So you do think they have something to apologise for?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

It doesn't matter that the moderates exist it only matters that the terrorist exist.

It doesn't matter what the moderates say it only matters what the terrorists do.

It is unfortunate that no-one can tell the difference from a moderate to a terrorist until the last second, but there ya go.

Nothing has changed.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

It doesn't matter that the moderates exist it only matters that the terrorist exist.

It doesn't matter what the ~~moderates~~ good men say it only matters what the ~~terrorists~~ rapists do.

It is unfortunate that no-one can tell the difference from a ~~moderate~~ good man to a t~~errorist~~ rapist until the last second, but there ya go.

Nothing has changed.

There. Fixed it for you.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Rhino on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Is anyone saying any different? There were many moderates and non nazis in Hitlers Germany too. Their religion is the inspiration for the attacks and these home grown terrorists are nurtured and radicalised within Mosques and other Islamic institutions. Why is your reaction always to minimalise and deflect from the reality? Islam needs to radically reform and cast out for good these hate elements or we will fight the inevitable war and win it.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Incorrect. They are mostly radicalised over the internet.

The ones from western countries at least.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 10:04am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:42am:

While the enemy gets to hide in plain site of their own communities, nothing that is said is worth a snatch full of cold water.

Pretty much care about the ones hiding and killing in western countries, what the camel jockey do in their own countries is their business.

yeah ... cause you'd do anything different if you were in there shoes. :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Rhino on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Here's your flawed thinking Rhino - in thinking that those muslims handing out roses have done something to be forgiven for.

yeah, just like the civilians in nazi germany smelling the stink of incinerated flesh every day had nothing to be forgiven for. These Muslims can smell the foul stink coming from their ideology Gandalf, giving out roses wont cut it.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Rhino on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:20pm

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Incorrect. They are mostly radicalised over the internet.

The ones from western countries at least.

educate yourself you silly little apologist.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Tell me, BigOl64, what were you doing during The Troubles in Northern Ireland? Were you claiming you hated all Irish people? How about the Genocide in Rwanda? Did you claim you hated all Rwandans? How about the Genocide in Jugoslavia? All Serbs? How about the establishment of illegal colonies in the Occupied Territories? All Israelis?

Get back to us when you stop being an Islamophobe and actually grow a back bone and show that you actually care about other humans. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:25pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

Is anyone saying any different?

It is implied in many Islamophobic posts here and elsewhere on the Internet, your own included, Rhino.

If you want to claim, "Oh, I only meant to attack the Islamist Terrorists!" Then keep your comments to the Islamist Terrorists and name them, rather than just, "Muslims". Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:26pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Incorrect. They are mostly radicalised over the internet.

The ones from western countries at least.

educate yourself you silly little apologist.

Were you not aware?

Typical ... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:26pm

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:06pm:

So you do think they have something to apologise for?

Go away TROLL.... you have my answers do stop lying about what I think.... such dishonesty only proves how pathetic you truly are.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Here's your flawed thinking Rhino - in thinking that those muslims handing out roses have done something to be forgiven for.

Most of the Nazi death camps weren't in "Nazi Germany", Rhino. Only Bergen-Belsen was there and it's incinerators weren't working overtime, unlike Auschwitz or other camps. Tsk, tsk, tripped up by your historical ignorance, yet again. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:29pm

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:26pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Incorrect. They are mostly radicalised over the internet.

The ones from western countries at least.

educate yourself you silly little apologist.

Were you not aware?

Typical ... ::)

Perhaps instead of lying to yourselves and trying to annoy me by roping me into your stupidity you should reread what Rhino actually said.
Oh dear shotdown again mothra.... irrationality reigns supreme eh... do try and be honest with yourself at least and don't try to libel me on the Net.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Nothing you stated refuted anything I said, but how could you when it is the truth.

As for what you stated, not one of those groups came to this country and started killing us because we didn't follow their stupid beliefs.

Should they come here and do what the people you apologise for are doing, Ill be sure to put them on the list. :) :)

I care more about us, than I do them, so fkken what.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:32pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Here's your flawed thinking Rhino - in thinking that those muslims handing out roses have done something to be forgiven for.

I suggest you pay a visit to Poland, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:36pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:06pm:

So you do think they have something to apologise for?

Go away TROLL.... you have my answers do stop lying about what I think.... such dishonesty only proves how pathetic you truly are.

Nope. You never answered. I suspect it is because you cannot without looking like a bit of a tit.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:43pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Nothing you stated refuted anything I said, but how could you when it is the truth.

It pointed out how much of an Islamophobe you are, BigOl64. You rabbit on about Muslims. Yet you remained silent I bet during all the other great events of the last 27 or so years which affected far more than Islamist Terrorism has. Funny that. You, the man who likes to act tough but you remain silent when people are being hurt, unless of course the perpetrators are Islamists. Tsk, tsk. Sorry, you've lost a lot of the respect I once held for you. Islamophobes are fools. They fear Muslims so they hate them. Your "truth" is a very one sided truth, BigOl64. Time you grew a real back bone and realised that. ::) ::)

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As for what you stated, not one of those groups came to this country and started killing us because we didn't follow their stupid beliefs.

Sure of that, BigOl64? ::)

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Should they come here and do what the people you apologise for are doing, Ill be sure to put them on the list. :) :)

So, you going to put them on your hate list now, BigOl64? Tsk, tsk, you like to talk tough but when reality hits? Nothing. ::)

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I care more about us, than I do them, so fkken what.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 3:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

What it proves is that the moderates exist, Rhino. Not all Muslims support or are Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Nothing you stated refuted anything I said, but how could you when it is the truth.

As for what you stated, not one of those groups came to this country and started killing us because we didn't follow their stupid beliefs.

Sure of that, BigOl64? ::)

[quote]Should they come here and do what the people you apologise for are doing, Ill be sure to put them on the list. :) :)

So, you going to put them on your hate list now, BigOl64? Tsk, tsk, you like to talk tough but when reality hits? Nothing. ::)

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I care more about us, than I do them, so fkken what.

That is the problem. "Them" are "us", BigOl64. Australians are Muslims as well. Yet you hate them all. You hate the victims as much as the perpetrators. So fair in your universal bigotry, aren't you? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) ::)
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Still nothing to refute what I said, just low level ad hominum, tsk tsk

And thanks for the history lesson as irrelevant as it was. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Time are a changing, and the appeasers soft c0ck approach isn't going to last much longer in this country. :) :)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 3:45pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

That makes it ok then. A couple of Muslims handing out roses. All is forgiven.

Here's your flawed thinking Rhino - in thinking that those muslims handing out roses have done something to be forgiven for.

Do you mean like all the muslims who reported the Manchester bomber to the police - repeatedly - over fears he was radicalised, and were promptly ignored?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

These commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an, which cause and motivate islamic terrorism are considered to be infallible and can never be changed.

The so called moderates and their fatwas are full of bullshit, when are they going to thoroughly address the cause and motivation of this divinely approved islamic terrorism?

How can a fatwa stop a muslim who knows with absolute certainty that the commands, teachings and verses of hate, torture and mass murder, are his / her guaranteed one way ticket to allah and his big brothel in the sky?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Still nothing to refute what I said, just low level ad hominum, tsk tsk

Ah, but I did, BigOl64, I did. You're just too foolish to recognise the truth when it stares you in the face, old chap. Tsk, tsk. ::)

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And thanks for the history lesson as irrelevant as it was. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Refutes what you claim, BigOl64. You just ignored all that Terrorism. Tsk, tsk. Why? 'cause it wasn't undertaken by an Islamist...

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Time are a changing, and the appeasers soft c0ck approach isn't going to last much longer in this country. :) :)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

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Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

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These commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an, which cause and motivate islamic terrorism are considered to be infallible and can never be changed.

Just like the verses in The Bible which are used by the Christian Terrorists? ::)

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The so called moderates and their fatwas are full of bullshit, when are they going to thoroughly address the cause and motivation of this divinely approved islamic terrorism?

The so-called moderates and their declarations are full of bullshit, where are they going to thoroughly address the cause and motivation of this divinely approved Christian Terrorism, Moses? ::)

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How can a fatwa stop a muslim who knows with absolute certainty that the commands, teachings and verses of hate, torture and mass murder, are his / her guaranteed one way ticket to allah and his big brothel in the sky?

How can a declaration, a Papal Bull, stop a Christian who knows with absolute certainty that the commands, teachings and verses of hate, torture and mass murder, are his / her guaranteed one way ticket to God, his Son and the Holy Ghost in the sky? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm

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OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Still nothing to refute what I said, just low level ad hominum, tsk tsk

Ah, but I did, BigOl64, I did. You're just too foolish to recognise the truth when it stares you in the face, old chap. Tsk, tsk. ::)

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And thanks for the history lesson as irrelevant as it was. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Refutes what you claim, BigOl64. You just ignored all that Terrorism. Tsk, tsk. Why? 'cause it wasn't undertaken by an Islamist...

[quote]
Time are a changing, and the appeasers soft c0ck approach isn't going to last much longer in this country. :) :)

No thanks. I'd rather think with my brain rather than my genitals, BigOl64. Brains are those soft-squishy organs most people have in their heads. Cocks hang between the legs of males and are only really useful for peeing and recreation. ::)
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You refuted fkk all, I doubt you even understood what I wrote

This thread is about islam dolt, that is what I wrote about because that is what the thread is about,

You react much like an amoeba, not a lot of grey matter needed for that.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Only Muslims act on a fatwah. Nobody else.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

No thanks. I'd rather think with my brain rather than my genitals, BigOl64. Brains are those soft-squishy organs most people have in their heads.

Soft and squishy is correct in your case, Briuan Munchausen. Your brain is a soft and squishy apologist's organ for Islam and Islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Only Muslims act on a fatwah. Nobody else.

Apologist.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 2:06pm:

So you do think they have something to apologise for?

Go away TROLL.... you have my answers do stop lying about what I think.... such dishonesty only proves how pathetic you truly are.

Nope. You never answered. I suspect it is because you cannot without looking like a bit of a tit.

Well ask me a direct bloody question stop trying to be an insulting smartarse and quote me in context since you seem to be so bloody clueless

Well after all her lies and libel all the ad hom and trolling even after a promise to answer a proper question what do we have from the Prog left?
NOTHING....
Much like you and your inane prattle bwian. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Only Muslims act on a fatwah. Nobody else.

Apologist.

Submissive.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Quote:

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:35pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Muslims generally listen to what the Imam's tell them, Soren. If the Imam says it's haram, it is forbidden. As the mainstream doctrines have agreed and issued a fatwa, it will decrease.

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Only Muslims act on a fatwah. Nobody else.

Really? And I thought the Lutherans did... ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Quote:

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

It's all Islam, Brian Munchausen. All Islam, all Koran, all Mohammed.

Same crap, same madness, different mad successor.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Muslims generally listen to what the Imam's tell them, Soren. If the Imam says it's haram, it is forbidden. As the mainstream doctrines have agreed and issued a fatwa, it will decrease.

And who tells the imam what is right? Who IS the imam?
There are so many sketchy, random imams, what source of authority do they have?

Well, the Koran and Mohammed. The same evil roots to all Islamic doctrines.

You cannot be trusted in 2017 (or 817, for hat matter) if you believe in the Koran and Mohammed. It's just not sane or innocent. Might as well be a Waffen SS or a political commissar of the Soviet. Or an Inquisitor and witch burner. Or a pedophile and polygamist and torturer. It is just not an acceptable position in life in 2017 to take the Koran and Mohammed seriously.
But they do take these things seriously to heart.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:13pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Quote:

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

It's all Islam, Brian Munchausen. All Islam, all Koran, all Mohammed.

Same crap, same madness, different mad successor.

Ah, the joys of Islamophobia, hey, Soren? All one monolithic group, all sharing exactly the same beliefs, lead by which Islamist leader this week, hey? God, you're a fool, your ignorant and you base your Islamophobia on that ignorance. Run along, Soren, I hear the school teacher calling you. I'm sure there are some grade ones you can terrorise in the school yard. Tsk, tsk. Who let you out with supervision? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:17pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

A fatwa against islamic terorism is worthless.

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him? ::)

Quote:

Terrorism is fully sanctioned and exhorted by allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Oh, such simplistic understanding of the Islamic faith, Moses. Its a shame that all branches of Islamic thinking have declared Terrorism and suicide bombing as "unclean", now isn't it? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Not true at all. Muslims do it for Allah, nothing else. If there was no Islamic justification they wouldn't be yelling Allahu Akhbar.

Muslims generally listen to what the Imam's tell them, Soren. If the Imam says it's haram, it is forbidden. As the mainstream doctrines have agreed and issued a fatwa, it will decrease.

And who tells the imam what is right? Who IS the imam?

Generally he's the least knowledgeable about the West but the most knowledgeable about the Koran in the congregation, he'll have good marks from his Madrassa and he'll have a beard. He also tends to dress traditionally but not always.

Got your eye on him yet, Soren? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Quote:

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

It's all Islam, Brian Munchausen. All Islam, all Koran, all Mohammed.

Same crap, same madness, different mad successor.

How many different ways are there to believe that the Koran is god's unaletrable word and that Muhammed is the best of men, ever.
How ever many ways here are, they are all bad You can't be good and believe the above.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:19pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Quote:

OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

It's all Islam, Brian Munchausen. All Islam, all Koran, all Mohammed.

Same crap, same madness, different mad successor.

Run along, Soren, run along. Otherwise you'll be late for your next class in Islamophobia. Recess is over, little man. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

The local apologist for islamic terrorism wrote:

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Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again.

There is only one qur'an which dictates the doctrine of islam.

The qur'an is unambiguous in its' commands to torture and murder non believers, hypocrites and corrupters.

It is a total lie by muslims and their apologists that a fatwa will over ride the commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an.

islamic terrorism is here to stay, until muslims have the moral courage to exhaustively inquire into the depraved evilness of allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

We all know that such a review would destroy islam in an instant, as islam cannot withstand an honest appraisal, islam is evil to the core.

So we have muslims and their apologists quiet happy with the status quo of bloodshed death and destruction we all witness today, the result of muslims following the qur'an to the letter.

The duo of malevolence (muslims/apologists), rather than bring the bloodshed to an end, prefer to keep coming up with all their stupid excuses.

However the world is slowly turning, its' only a matter of time, truth will win the day, muslims and their apologists will be defeated by honesty in the end.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by John Smith on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 3:33pm

moses wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

There is only one qur'an which dictates the doctrine of islam.

The qur'an is unambiguous i

tell that to the Shia and the sunni :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 3:37pm

Err moses wrote
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Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 6:07pm

moses wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

The local apologist for islamic terrorism wrote:

Quote:

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again.

There is only one qur'an which dictates the doctrine of islam.

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The qur'an is unambiguous in its' commands to torture and murder non believers, hypocrites and corrupters.

Really? And what does The Bible say about the equivalent people, Moses? Mmmm? ::)

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It is a total lie by muslims and their apologists that a fatwa will over ride the commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an.

Seems to be a lie that they believe, Moses. Funny that. Personally, I'll take the word of a Muslim over a non-Muslim where Islam is concerned. ::)

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islamic terrorism is here to stay, until muslims have the moral courage to exhaustively inquire into the depraved evilness of allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

We all know that such a review would destroy islam in an instant, as islam cannot withstand an honest appraisal, islam is evil to the core.

Occording to whom? You, a committed Christian or them, committed Muslims? Interesting question, don't you think, Moses? Tsk, tsk. ::)

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So we have muslims and their apologists quiet happy with the status quo of bloodshed death and destruction we all witness today, the result of muslims following the qur'an to the letter.

Some Muslims no doubt do, just as some Christians no doubt do. What a shame that Christianity does not look at itself in the way you demand that Muslims must as well, Moses. Tsk, tsk. ::)

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The duo of malevolence (muslims/apologists), rather than bring the bloodshed to an end, prefer to keep coming up with all their stupid excuses.

And the Christians and their apologists, Moses? Do you condemn them as well? I wonder... ::)

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However the world is slowly turning, its' only a matter of time, truth will win the day, muslims and their apologists will be defeated by honesty in the end.

Perhaps they will. What will defeat Christian duplicity though, Moses, I wonder? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 6:13pm

Oh dear the Dr's memory is stuffed again.

Christians are told not to lie bwian... it's Muslims that are allowed to. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are such a dishonest bigot bwian.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 9^th, 2017 at 4:20pm

Reply #71 - Yesterday at 6:07pm

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Really? And what does The Bible say about the equivalent people, Moses? Mmmm?

Which part of the Bible? The part which records the covenant between the Jews and Y.H.W.H. which was written thousands of years before Christianity arrived on the scene?

Or the part which records the Christian teachings by their Saviour, and various other apostles deacons etc.?

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Seems to be a lie that they believe, Moses. Funny that. Personally, I'll take the word of a Muslim over a non-Muslim where Islam is concerned.

Of course you will, you're a supporter of islamic atrocities.

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And are Christians prepared to do the same, Moses? I wonder why, if it as universal as you claim, not all Muslims engage in Terrorism then? Could it be that interpretations have changed? Been perverted? Interesting how Christianity has changed as well over the millennia in how it's theology should be interpreted. I remember what the Priests used to proclaim from the pulpit at the turn of the century... Tsk, tsk. Who's telling porkie-pies, I wonder, Moses? You or them?

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Some Muslims no doubt do, just as some Christians no doubt do. What a shame that Christianity does not look at itself in the way you demand that Muslims must as well, Moses. Tsk, tsk.

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And the Christians and their apologists, Moses? Do you condemn them as well? I wonder...

Occording to whom? You, a committed Christian or them, committed Muslims? Interesting question, don't you think, Moses? Tsk, tsk

Perhaps they will. What will defeat Christian duplicity though, Moses, I wonder? Tsk, tsk.

There's no perhaps about it muslims and their apologists are losing the battle, the world will turn eventually and truth will win the day.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 9^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

moses wrote on Jun 9^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

Reply #71 - Yesterday at 6:07pm

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Really? And what does The Bible say about the equivalent people, Moses? Mmmm?

Both are parts of The Bible, are they not, Moses? Priests preach from both parts when it suits them. I've attended church and heard them taking chapter and verse from the Old Testament and according it equal weight with the New. Funny how you, among all Christians proclaim that the Old Testament is no longer valid when millions of Christians believe otherwise and proclaim it. Tsk, tsk, Moses. why do you persist with these porkie-pies? ::)

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[quote]Seems to be a lie that they believe, Moses. Funny that. Personally, I'll take the word of a Muslim over a non-Muslim where Islam is concerned.

Of course you will, you're a supporter of islamic atrocities.[/quote]

I am? Where? Please provide a quote where I have supported Islamic atrocities, Moses. Look, here is a space for you to do it. Failure of course will indicate that once more you are telling porkie-pies about me. Tsk, tsk, isn't that breaking one of the 10 commandments?

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I look forward to reading it, Moses. I really do. ::)

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[quote]And are Christians prepared to do the same, Moses? I wonder why, if it as universal as you claim, not all Muslims engage in Terrorism then? Could it be that interpretations have changed? Been perverted? Interesting how Christianity has changed as well over the millennia in how it's theology should be interpreted. I remember what the Priests used to proclaim from the pulpit at the turn of the century... Tsk, tsk. Who's telling porkie-pies, I wonder, Moses? You or them?

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Some Muslims no doubt do, just as some Christians no doubt do. What a shame that Christianity does not look at itself in the way you demand that Muslims must as well, Moses. Tsk, tsk.

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And the Christians and their apologists, Moses? Do you condemn them as well? I wonder...

Always the red herring of what will the Christians do, when the world wide problem of islamic terrorism is raised. Well you see, in your haste to defend islamic terrorism, you've overlooked the fact that its' got nothing at all to do with Christianity. [/quote]

I am not defending Islamic Terrorism in the slightest, Moses. I am defending plain, ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and their interpretation of their religion which you are accusing because of their faith, commit or support Terrorism. Tsk, tsk. So much for loving the oppressed, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk. ::)

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[quote]Occording to whom? You, a committed Christian or them, committed Muslims? Interesting question, don't you think, Moses? Tsk, tsk

All so called moderate muslims and apologists, are panic-stricken at the thought of a review into the commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an, which cause and motivate islamic atrocities. This duo of evil will try any perverse trick in the book to hide from, duck and dodge away from this obvious answer to islamic terrorism.
[/quote]

Ah, this is why there is always, somewhere, a Muslim hiding under their bed, right, Moses? This is why Islamic scholars are always reviewing their beliefs, the teachings of Mohammed and making sure they are correct and fit within the religion of Islam. This is why, at this moment there is an ongoing project to review the ahadiths in Turkey. Naughty Muslims to be doing exactly what you ask, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk. ::)

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[quote]Perhaps they will. What will defeat Christian duplicity though, Moses, I wonder? Tsk, tsk.

There's no perhaps about it muslims and their apologists are losing the battle, the world will turn eventually and truth will win the day.
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They may be but the decent people like myself who aren't fighting a battle for Islam but against ignorance and bigotry as expressed in your Islamophobia? We are hopefully winning, rather than doing exactly what the Islamist Terrorists want us to do. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 9^th, 2017 at 8:39pm

Tsk tsk tsk bwian... you are back-sliding again.
Your Dr of Divinity Certificate isn't worth the Cornflake box you cut it off.

Christianity is based on the teachings and life of Christ bwian. The New Testament covers that period... The Old Testament covers a period before Christ bwian, surely YOU know that. You and the atheists here have been told often enough bwian... wassup, amnesia or just being a lying hypocrite as per usual?

As for you being "decent" bwian, you seem to keep forgetting you are a lying hypocritical bigot. :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 9^th, 2017 at 11:35pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

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OK. So why then should Salman Rushdie go into hiding about a fatwa against him?

Because the fatwa was 100% aligned with the hate, torture and mass murder so prevalent in islamic doctrine.

Which doctrine was that? Shi'a or Sunni, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Shown up for the fool you really are... again. ::)

It's all Islam, Brian Munchausen. All Islam, all Koran, all Mohammed.

Same crap, same madness, different mad successor.

Always absolutely never ever.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 4:23pm

Reply #74 - Yesterday at 6:52pm

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Err no, you lie once again, the N.T. is specific in which parts of the O.T. it supercedes.

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I am? Where? Please provide a quote where I have supported Islamic atrocities, Moses. Look, here is a space for you to do it. Failure of course will indicate that once more you are telling porkie-pies about me. Tsk, tsk, isn't that breaking one of the 10 commandments?

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I look forward to reading it, Moses. I really do.

I am not defending Islamic Terrorism in the slightest, Moses. I am defending plain, ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and their interpretation of their religion which you are accusing because of their faith, commit or support Terrorism. Tsk, tsk. So much for loving the oppressed, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk.

Yes you are.

The interpretation excuse is a lie muslims and their apologists use, to snivel around the fact that islam is riddled with teachings of hate, rape, torture and murder of innocent people.

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Ah, this is why there is always, somewhere, a Muslim hiding under their bed, right, Moses? This is why Islamic scholars are always reviewing their beliefs, the teachings of Mohammed and making sure they are correct and fit within the religion of Islam. This is why, at this moment there is an ongoing project to review the ahadiths in Turkey. Naughty Muslims to be doing exactly what you ask, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk.

ahadiths in Turkey?

Another useless excuse.

The qur'an is the infallible unchangeable words of allah where the myriad of satanic exhortations exist, which are the root cause and motivation of all islamic terrorism.

Why aren't they looking there instead of pissing in each others pockets about ahadiths?

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They may be but the decent people like myself who aren't fighting a battle for Islam but against ignorance and bigotry as expressed in your Islamophobia? We are hopefully winning, rather than doing exactly what the Islamist Terrorists want us to do.

You're a full blown islamic terrorist supporter, your whining excuses verify this fact for all to see.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm

moses wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 4:23pm:

Reply #74 - Yesterday at 6:52pm

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Err no, you lie once again, the N.T. is specific in which parts of the O.T. it supercedes.

So, then, Moses, again I ask, when you make that claim, why does Christianity still include the Old Testament as a central part of The Bible and Christian teaching? You have never answered that, could it be because you know you can't without admitting that ALL Christian denominations utilise the Old Testament as part of their teachings. ::)

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[quote]I am? Where? Please provide a quote where I have supported Islamic atrocities, Moses. Look, here is a space for you to do it. Failure of course will indicate that once more you are telling porkie-pies about me. Tsk, tsk, isn't that breaking one of the 10 commandments?

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I look forward to reading it, Moses. I really do.

You have lied time and time again on this board, one of your favoured methods of lying to excuse islamic terrorism is: constantly and deliberately providing fallacious variants of Christian teachings as being as evil as the doctrine of islam. [/quote]

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, again you fail to provide an answer to a direct question.

Where is your proof, Moses that I support or excuse Islamic Terrorism? Mmm? Unable to find anything? How unsurprising. You're a liar, Moses and a hypocrite. I've argued with you using all my knowledge of Christian teachings and The Bible to prove you wrong, time and time again. I am unsure which church you belong to but its definitely not one of the mainstream ones. Is it Hill Song or another of the weird evangelical happy-clappy denominations? ::)

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[quote]I am not defending Islamic Terrorism in the slightest, Moses. I am defending plain, ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and their interpretation of their religion which you are accusing because of their faith, commit or support Terrorism. Tsk, tsk. So much for loving the oppressed, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk.

Yes you are.[/quote]

Then prove I am. Quote back to me where I have defended Islamist Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, more lies, Moses? Just 'cause I disagree with you does not mean I am automatically a defender of Terrorism. ::)

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The interpretation excuse is a lie muslims and their apologists use, to snivel around the fact that islam is riddled with teachings of hate, rape, torture and murder of innocent people.

Just as Christianity and it's teachings are. Just as nearly every religion is. The unbeliever, the infidel (a nice Christian word BTW), the other is not to be tolerated, ever. Doesn't matter if its Christianity, Islam, Hindu, Taoism, etc. Instead of just looking at your warped view of Islam, look at other religions and compare their beliefs and teachings, Moses. You might be surprised when you lift your head out of your little trench.

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[quote]Ah, this is why there is always, somewhere, a Muslim hiding under their bed, right, Moses? This is why Islamic scholars are always reviewing their beliefs, the teachings of Mohammed and making sure they are correct and fit within the religion of Islam. This is why, at this moment there is an ongoing project to review the ahadiths in Turkey. Naughty Muslims to be doing exactly what you ask, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk.

ahadiths in Turkey?

Another useless excuse.[/quote]

Nope. If you knew and understood Islam and it's belief structure you'd know how important the ahadiths are. Tsk, tsk, you are condemning something you don't even understand Moses on the basis of inadequate knowledge of it. Such a foolish man. ::)

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The qur'an is the infallible unchangeable words of allah where the myriad of satanic exhortations exist, which are the root cause and motivation of all islamic terrorism.

Why aren't they looking there instead of pissing in each others pockets about ahadiths?

Because the hadiths are the

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A hadith (/ˈhædɪθ/[1] or /hɑːˈdiːθ/;[2] Arabic: حديث‎‎ ḥadīth, plural: ahadith, أحاديث, ʼaḥādīth[3]) is one of various reports describing the words, actions, or habits of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.[3] The term comes from Arabic meaning a "report", "account" or "narrative". Hadith are second only to the Quran in developing Islamic jurisprudence,

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith]Source[/url]

Many hadiths have, over the centuries been distorted (often deliberately), invented and lied about to further or make a point, Moses. Islam is partly based on them as they are used as examples of how Muslims should behave in a given situation.

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You're a full blown islamic terrorist supporter, your whining excuses verify this fact for all to see.

Really? We are yet to see you prove that claim. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Many hadiths have, over the centuries been distorted (often deliberately), invented and lied about to further or make a point, Moses. Islam is partly based on them as they are used as examples of how Muslims should behave in a given situation.

Your usual confusion about everything, Brian - hadiths are important but many are distorted.
There is no way to tell which one is which, therefore the ones that you agree with are true, the non-PC ones that the jihadists cite are distorted.
Islam is the most feminist and tolerant of religions because your mates said so. Islamic jihad has nothing to do with authentic Islam and anyone who says otherwise is an Islamophobe.
That is ALL there is to see in Islam.

And then yawn.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Yadda on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 7:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

Your usual confusion about everything, Brian - hadiths are important but many are distorted.

There is no way to tell which one is which, therefore the ones that you agree with are true, [but] the non-PC ones that the jihadists cite are distorted.

Islam is the most feminist and tolerant of religions because your mates said so.

Islamic jihad has nothing to do with authentic Islam and anyone who says otherwise is an Islamophobe.

That is ALL there is to see in Islam.

And then yawn.

;D

Yep.

That is as fair of a description of ISLAMIC apologists, as i have heard in a while.

IMAGE....

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 8:54pm

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Your usual confusion about everything, Brian - hadiths are important but many are distorted.

So, you don't want the truth then, Soren, you'd prefer your Islamophobic lies? Tsk, tsk, that tells us so much about the way you think. Nothing is black and white, everything is shades of grey. Some Hadiths have been distorted, some are outright lies, some are truthful. Sorting them out is what the Turkish project is all about. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 10:20pm

tsk, tsk, tsk, oh dearie dearie me..... nothing to see here people, time to move on....

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 1:55pm

Reply #78 - Yesterday at 6:35pm

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Because certain parts are still relevant, other parts have been supersceeded.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, again you fail to provide an answer to a direct question.

Where is your proof, Moses that I support or excuse Islamic Terrorism? Mmm? Unable to find anything? How unsurprising. You're a liar, Moses and a hypocrite. I've argued with you using all my knowledge of Christian teachings and The Bible to prove you wrong, time and time again. I am unsure which church you belong to but its definitely not one of the mainstream ones. Is it Hill Song or another of the weird evangelical happy-clappy denominations?

You're the proven liar of this board.

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Then prove I am. Quote back to me where I have defended Islamist Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, more lies, Moses? Just 'cause I disagree with you does not mean I am automatically a defender of Terrorism.

lying and making pathetic excuses for islamic terrorism, makes you a 100% islamic terrorist supporter.

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moses wrote:
[quote]The interpretation excuse is a lie muslims and their apologists use, to snivel around the fact that islam is riddled with teachings of hate, rape, torture and murder of innocent people.

Brian Ross wrote:

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Just as Christianity and it's teachings are. Just as nearly every religion is. The unbeliever, the infidel (a nice Christian word BTW), the other is not to be tolerated, ever. Doesn't matter if its Christianity, Islam, Hindu, Taoism, etc. Instead of just looking at your warped view of Islam, look at other religions and compare their beliefs and teachings, Moses. You might be surprised when you lift your head out of your little trench.

Nope. If you knew and understood Islam and it's belief structure you'd know how important the ahadiths are. Tsk, tsk, you are condemning something you don't even understand Moses on the basis of inadequate knowledge of it. Such a foolish man

Many hadiths have, over the centuries been distorted (often deliberately), invented and lied about to further or make a point, Moses. Islam is partly based on them as they are used as examples of how Muslims should behave in a given situation.

Oh dear first it's know how important they are, then it's islam is partly based on them.

Which proves my point Of:

The hate verses of rape torture and mass murder in the evil qur'an are the prime cause and motivation of islamic atrocities around the globe. It is revered by every single muslim on this planet as the infallible unchangeable word of allah.

islam is based solely on the qur'an, the ahadiths are of much lower status than the qur'an.

So why are these lying muslims toying around with something which is of lesser value in the cult. The total and sole cause of islamic terrorism/atrocities against innocent men women and children is the book of perversion (the qur'an).

If these people were genuine they would look at the root cause e.g.: the depravity in the qur'an is responsible for islamic terrorism and degeneracies.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 3:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Your usual confusion about everything, Brian - hadiths are important but many are distorted.

SO YOU don't know which ones are true and which ones are lies, you stupid old kook, yet you always pretend that the PC ones are the true ones and the murderous jihadi one - the ones that have motivated Islamic action for years - are 'distortions'.

At least I don't treat Muslims as children but take them at their words and judge them by their actions and effects on the world.

If they SAY they are killing infidel women on London Bridge for Allah, I believe them. Jihadis KNOW what they are doing and they are doing it for Allah and Mohammed and the caliphate. They have been doing the exact same thing for years, for the exact same reasons.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

moses wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Reply #78 - Yesterday at 6:35pm

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Because certain parts are still relevant, other parts have been supersceeded.

Yet that is not made plain in the various Churches' sermons, that is not made in the Churches' lessons, Moses. There is no warning in The Bible that this part has been "superceeded". So, Christian fundamentalists reading the whole Bible, read the whole Old Testament along with the New. The result is they justify their Terrorism, their violence, their misogny, their homophobia, etc. through the teachings of the Old Testament. Something you keep claiming isn't valid but they claim is. When is Christianity going to address that, I ask? A question you continually ignore, in favour of attacking Islam and Muslims. Tsk, tsk. ::)

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[quote]Oh, dearie, dearie, me, again you fail to provide an answer to a direct question.

Where is your proof, Moses that I support or excuse Islamic Terrorism? Mmm? Unable to find anything? How unsurprising. You're a liar, Moses and a hypocrite. I've argued with you using all my knowledge of Christian teachings and The Bible to prove you wrong, time and time again. I am unsure which church you belong to but its definitely not one of the mainstream ones. Is it Hill Song or another of the weird evangelical happy-clappy denominations?

You're the proven liar of this board.[/quote]

Really? Where? When? By whom? Here is a space for you to provide a quote where I was proved to "knowingly told an untruth", Moses. Lets see it. Failure by you to provide will of course prove that you are the liar, not me:

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[quote]Then prove I am. Quote back to me where I have defended Islamist Terrorism. Tsk, tsk, more lies, Moses? Just 'cause I disagree with you does not mean I am automatically a defender of Terrorism.

lying and making pathetic excuses for islamic terrorism, makes you a 100% islamic terrorist supporter.[/quote]

Does it? How. Because I don't believe all Muslims are Terrorists or supporters of Terrorists? Even Freediver agrees with that. Does that make him a "100% Islamic terrorist supporter"?

You seem to think in black and white terms, Moses. Didn't Christ teach you that the world is actually in shades of grey? Mmmm? Tsk, tsk. ::)

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Brian Ross wrote:
[quote]Just as Christianity and it's teachings are. Just as nearly every religion is. The unbeliever, the infidel (a nice Christian word BTW), the other is not to be tolerated, ever. Doesn't matter if its Christianity, Islam, Hindu, Taoism, etc. Instead of just looking at your warped view of Islam, look at other religions and compare their beliefs and teachings, Moses. You might be surprised when you lift your head out of your little trench.

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Here is another prime example of your lies,

Give me one instance where Christian teachings of rape torture and mass murder are urged as Christian duties.

If you cannot I claim the right to call you a proven liar.
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Judges 5:30
Judges 21:10-24
Numbers 31:7-18
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Exodus 21:7-11
Zechariah 14:1-2

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And yet you remain silent on the barbarity, the murder, the rape, the pillage, the homophobia, the misogyny of The Bible, Moses. Everytime I talk about those things, you shrug them off, claiming they are all in The Old Testament and not the New. Some are, some aren't. Some are in the New, Moses. When you, as a Christian take responsibility for them and abrogate The Bible in it's totality, from The Old Testament to the New, you might have a basis on which to attack Islam and Muslims. Until then, piss off, you're just an Islamophobic Christian zealot. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 3:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Your usual confusion about everything, Brian - hadiths are important but many are distorted.

SO YOU[/size] don't know which ones are true and which ones are lies, you stupid old kook, yet you always pretend that the PC ones are the true ones and the murderous jihadi one - the ones that have motivated Islamic action for years - are 'distortions'.

At least I don't treat Muslims as children but take them at their words and judge them by their actions and effects on the world.

If they SAY they are killing infidel women on London Bridge for Allah, I believe them. Jihadis KNOW what they are doing and they are doing it for Allah and Mohammed and the caliphate. They have been doing the exact same thing for years, for the exact same reasons.

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it! Appears that Muslims can never, ever win with you, because of your bigotry and your Islamophobia. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Damned by your own words. You really do hate Muslims don't you? Is it because you were told scary stories about them when you were a child? They were the horrible people of your childhood, who lurked in the big, dark, enchanted wood and who would steal bad children away from their parents? How old are you? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

YOU defending Islam the its jihadists doctrines that lead directly to islamic terrorism is not Muslims reforming it.

Muslims ignoring Islam is not reforming it.

Muslims leaving Islam is not reforming it.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

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YOU defending Islam the its jihadists doctrines that lead directly to islamic terrorism is not Muslims reforming it.

Where have I defended Islamist Terrorism, Soren? Where? Please quote it to me. Failure of course on your part to do so, will mean you've been proven to be a liar about what you believe I have done. So, where? Here is a space to quote it back to us:

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Muslims ignoring Islam is not reforming it.

Muslims leaving Islam is not reforming it.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren, it appears nothing will reform Islam the way you like except for Islam to become Christianity. I have news for you - it isn't going to happen the way you like. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:56pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren fails to quote back to where I have supposedly supported Islamist Terrorism, again. Tsk, tsk. So, yet again we prove that he lies. What a shame... ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:35am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren fails to quote back to where I have supposedly supported Islamist Terrorism, again. Tsk, tsk. So, yet again we prove that he lies. What a shame... ::) ::)

There is not a single post by you about Islam where you are not trying, stupidly, to deny the Islamic core of Muslim terrorism, where you are not trying to muddle any critical appraisal of Islam by declaring that criticism of Islam is nothing but an attack on all Muslims.

That is stupid once or twice. As a matter of policy like you do, it is aiding and enabling jihad and excusing Islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

No surprises there.

The Grand Mufti still makes jokes about jihad and thinks it's unreasonable for them to condemn Muslim terrorism every time it happens.

No reform. No improvement. No speaka da English.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/35901334/muslim-grand-mufti-makes-jihad-joke-week-after-melbourne-siege/#page1

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

Reply #85 - Yesterday at 5:41pm

Quote:

Yet that is not made plain in the various Churches' sermons, that is not made in the Churches' lessons, Moses. There is no warning in The Bible that this part has been "superceeded". So, Christian fundamentalists reading the whole Bible, read the whole Old Testament along with the New. The result is they justify their Terrorism, their violence, their misogny, their homophobia, etc. through the teachings of the Old Testament. Something you keep claiming isn't valid but they claim is. When is Christianity going to address that, I ask? A question you continually ignore, in favour of attacking Islam and Muslims. Tsk, tsk.

Another lie on your part, You must really like reading the Refutations in the N.T.

Here it is again for the umpteenth time for your lying self: Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

A clear cut time frame on the law and the prophets of the O.T.

Quote:

Really? Where? When? By whom? Here is a space for you to provide a quote where I was proved to "knowingly told an untruth", Moses. Lets see it. Failure by you to provide will of course prove that you are the liar, not me:

Oh gee in the paragraph above is a classic example of your fallacious ways, when it comes to your defence of islamic terrorism.

Quote:

And yet you remain silent on the barbarity, the murder, the rape, the pillage, the homophobia, the misogyny of The Bible, Moses. Everytime I talk about those things, you shrug them off, claiming they are all in The Old Testament and not the New. Some are, some aren't. Some are in the New, Moses. When you, as a Christian take responsibility for them and abrogate The Bible in it's totality, from The Old Testament to the New, you might have a basis on which to attack Islam and Muslims. Until then, piss off, you're just a Islamophobic Christian zealot. Tsk, tsk.

Repeating a lie will not make it truth on your part.

Give just one example of the N.T. urging rape torture and mass murder as being the highest path a Christian can take.

We all know that the people you defend (muslim torturers and killers) are brainwashed with this depraved islamic ideology from birth, they read it in the book of filth (the qur'an) every day of their lives.

Go on shock us all, say something honest for a change.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:03pm

Ok, so I would like to centre position on this issue.

I agree as Sam Harris does, that there is a more direct line from Scripture to violence in Islam than there is in other faiths; and that IN THE EYES OF AN UNINFORMED READER the verses of violence can be interpreted as universal. I also agree that the misogyny in the Quran is more 'overt' than in other religions.

HOWEVER, I don't believe that we should prevent or ban people from entering Australia on the basis of religious belief or on what they believe in general. It is not up to the Government to determine or decide what people believe or how they behave toward their own family or children.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:09pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:03pm:

You agree that there is a more direct route to violence in the Qur'an than in other texts?

Academics, and i, disagree with you.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:46pm

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:08pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 3:03pm:

You agree that there is a more direct route to violence in the Qur'an than in other texts?

Academics, and i, disagree with you.

And that's fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Can I just say that Dawkins and Harris are academics too. Also, you need to ask yourself whether or not these academics are propagating a view that they actually believe or if they are virtue signalling; or if they are afraid to speak negatively about the faith due to the risk of social isolation?

I read a book called How to Read the Quran by Carl Ernst, a scholar from the University of North Carolina. He claimed that the Quran was written in a ring structure with emphasised certain parts over others. Whilst this is certainly a legitimate point of view, he didn't go into Surah 4, the chapter about women because as he stated, 'it was for Islamic legal scholars to determine this chapter and was 'outside the scope of theology and heurmaneutics'

It's important to distinguish between theological and Quranic scholars, and jurisprudence scholars; the latter focusing on legal rulings; the former focusing on theological and scriptural readings.

Makes sense, lots of?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:16pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 12:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren fails to quote back to where I have supposedly supported Islamist Terrorism, again. Tsk, tsk. So, yet again we prove that he lies. What a shame... ::) ::)

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. I have never denied that the Islamists are interpreting the core messages of Islam incorrectly. Just as I never denied that Christians have changed how they should interpret the core messages of Christianity markedly over the centuries. Something you appear unable or unwilling to accept. To you, there is only one interpretation of any Religion, isn't here? Tsk, tsk, you really do need to do some religious studies, Soren, you really do. You might actually understand what you are talking about for a change. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

So, you live in Lakemba, do you, Soren? The Grand Mufit is your local Imam? Really? How interesting. When was the last time you attended Mosque, personally? I'd be interested to know. Or do you always rely on what the MSM tells you? Tsk, tsk, and yet you distrust it for everything else... Funny that. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Be glad he doesn't live in Lakemba. They had to shutdown the police station because some jihadist shot it up with an AK47.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:57pm

moses wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Reply #85 - Yesterday at 5:41pm

Quote:

And why do you ignore the next verse, Moses?

Luke proclaims:

Quote:

16“The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.

17“But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.

[quote]Really? Where? When? By whom? Here is a space for you to provide a quote where I was proved to "knowingly told an untruth", Moses. Lets see it. Failure by you to provide will of course prove that you are the liar, not me:

Oh gee in the paragraph above is a classic example of your fallacious ways, when it comes to your defence of islamic terrorism.[/quote]

You have failed to quote us exactly what you consider to "fallacious", Moses. Therefore I am forced to conclude that you are lying. Pure and simple. You are attempting to claim I lie, when in reality I am telling the truth. You and your interpretation of The Bible are flawed. You refuse to accept me, so you claim I am lying, when in reality I tell the truth. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

[quote]And yet you remain silent on the barbarity, the murder, the rape, the pillage, the homophobia, the misogyny of The Bible, Moses. Everytime I talk about those things, you shrug them off, claiming they are all in The Old Testament and not the New. Some are, some aren't. Some are in the New, Moses. When you, as a Christian take responsibility for them and abrogate The Bible in it's totality, from The Old Testament to the New, you might have a basis on which to attack Islam and Muslims. Until then, piss off, you're just a Islamophobic Christian zealot. Tsk, tsk.

Repeating a lie will not make it truth on your part.[/quote]

Repeating a lie on your part does not and will not make it truth, Moses. You have lied. You have beared false witness against me. You have broken the fourth commandment, Moses. A commandment that your God decreed that you must follow. You will therefore go to Hell, direct to Hell. Tsk, tsk. Trapped by your own words, Moses. Lies and more lies. ::)

Quote:

Give just one example of the N.T. urging rape torture and mass murder as being the highest path a Christian can take.

I Corinthians 7:3-4:

Quote:

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

We all know that the people you defend (muslim torturers and killers) are brainwashed with this depraved islamic ideology from birth, they read it in the book of filth (the qur'an) every day of their lives.

Yet more false witness, Moses? Where have I ever defended "Muslim torturers and killers"? Here is your chance to prove your case. Failure on your part will simply prove my charge that you're telling lies true.

Quote:

Where is it? Quote it back to us. ::) ::)

Quote:

Go on shock us all, say something honest for a change.

It'd be amazing for you to shock us, Moses. Instead of making outlandish, unsupportable, claims. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

moses wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Reply #85 - Yesterday at 5:41pm

Quote:

And why do you ignore the next verse, Moses?

Luke proclaims:

[quote]16“The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.

17“But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.

Give just one example of the N.T. urging rape torture and mass murder as being the highest path a Christian can take.

I Corinthians 7:3-4:

Quote:

Where is it? Quote it back to us. ::) ::)

Quote:

Go on shock us all, say something honest for a change.

It'd be amazing for you to shock us, Moses. Instead of making outlandish, unsupportable, claims. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) ::)[/quote]

You know none of that is real, and you call yourself 'educated'; quoting children's fairy-tales. tsk tsk.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:04pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Be glad he doesn't live in Lakemba. They had to shutdown the police station because some jihadist shot it up with an AK47.

The drive by shooting was in 1998. The Police Station in Lakemba closed in 2006. Seems a long time difference for one to have caused the other, Hammer. Time you got your facts straight. The reason why it closed was because it was cheaper to run it out of Campsie than it was to have separate police stations in Campsie and Lakemba. Tsk, tsk, Blame the NSW Government for penny-pinching, rather than a criminal Muslim... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:08pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

You know none of that is real, and you call yourself 'educated'; quoting children's fairy-tales. tsk tsk.

I know it isn't, BigOl64. Does Moses though? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Be glad he doesn't live in Lakemba. They had to shutdown the police station because some jihadist shot it up with an AK47.

So the AK47 attack plus all the other troubles I didn't mention had nothing to do with it's closing Brian??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

You know none of that is real, and you call yourself 'educated'; quoting children's fairy-tales. tsk tsk.

I know it isn't, BigOl64. Does Moses though? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Then just say it is horse sh1t and that should be the end of the conversation, do not fuel the delusion by pretending it is worth knowing. tsk tsk :) :)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

So the AK47 attack plus all the other troubles I didn't mention had nothing to do with it's closing Brian??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I doubt it. More than likely the penny-pinching by the NSW Government of the day and of course the contamination which was discovered in the site...

Can't have the Rozzers getting ill or catching Jimmy-Dancer, now can we?

The "other troubles" you didn't mention, you didn't mention so how can I base my judgement on them, Hammer? Tsk, tsk. If they were worth mentioning, you'd have mentioned them. You didn't, so they weren't worth considering. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:15pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

You know none of that is real, and you call yourself 'educated'; quoting children's fairy-tales. tsk tsk.

I know it isn't, BigOl64. Does Moses though? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Then just say it is horse sh1t and that should be the end of the conversation, do not fuel the delusion by pretending it is worth knowing. tsk tsk :) :)

Oh, I enjoy arguing about how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin, mate. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Be glad he doesn't live in Lakemba. They had to shutdown the police station because some jihadist shot it up with an AK47.

So if I haven't been to the Nurnberg Rally I cannot have a view on what Nazis want?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

So the AK47 attack plus all the other troubles I didn't mention had nothing to do with it's closing Brian??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

penny pinching??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Lakemba has a major criminal element and a major radical Islamic element who hate cops. Imagine being in Lakemba fishbowl copshop day in day out with sharks circling. You know the truth Brian. Just admit to it.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Soren, shouting now? Tsk, tsk, you really are being Islamophobic. You criticise Muslims for never reforming Islam and when I point that they are, you criticise them then for doing it!

Are they reforming it? Where?

Everywhere, Soren, everywhere. It is the nature of Islam that all Muslims must reform their own beliefs, there is no central authority to do it.

Evidence of reformed Islam, please.

Have a look down at your local Mosque, Soren. You might be surprised... ::) ::)

Be glad he doesn't live in Lakemba. They had to shutdown the police station because some jihadist shot it up with an AK47.

So if I haven't been to the Nurnberg Rally I cannot have a view on what Nazis want?

If you were asked to go to the Nuremberg Rally (a different place to the "Nurnberg Rally") and you declared an opinion not connected to the events of that Rally, you'd pretty silly amongst your Nazi friends, Soren. I asked you to go to your "local Mosque", you replied with a news report about the Lakemba Mosque. Tsk, tsk. No wonder you are considered a fool... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 3:26pm

Brian Ross wrote; Reply #102 - Yesterday at 4:57pm

Quote:

Christ admits that while he seeks to change the lore, and many accept it, not all do. Just as Christians like you refuse to accept the authority of The Old Testament, there are Christians who do. It appears you've been hung by your own petard, Moses. Tsk. tsk.

&

Christ admits that while he seeks to change the lore, and many accept it, not all do. Just as Christians like you refuse to accept the authority of The Old Testament, there are Christians who do. It appears you've been hung by your own petard, Moses. Tsk. tsk.

You have failed to quote us exactly what you consider to "fallacious", Moses. Therefore I am forced to conclude that you are lying. Pure and simple. You are attempting to claim I lie, when in reality I am telling the truth. You and your interpretation of The Bible are flawed. You refuse to accept me, so you claim I am lying, when in reality I tell the truth. Tsk, tsk.

&

Where is it? Quote it back to us.

&

Yet more false witness, Moses? Where have I ever defended "Muslim torturers and killers"? Here is your chance to prove your case. Failure on your part will simply prove my charge that you're telling lies true.

The above first couple of paragraphs are the undisputed proof of your dishonesty.

Quote:

moses wrote:[quote]Give just one example of the N.T. urging rape torture and mass murder as being the highest path a Christian can take.

Brian Ross wrote:I Corinthians 7:3-4:
Quote:

[quote]3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also thehusband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 4:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

31 down, 1.6 billion to go.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 6:33pm

moses wrote on Jun 13^th, 2017 at 3:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote; Reply #102 - Yesterday at 4:57pm

Quote:

Here we go again, do you really want me to post the verses in the N.T. which state that Christ came to fulfill the law?

It's been done over and over, you falsely claiming that the law is still relevant then me posting the verses which state

1/.Christ fulfilled the law,

2/.that man is no longer justified by the law.

The entire Christian faith is based on the belief that Christ died for the sins of man, that faith in Christ is the only way to redemption for them.

It beggars belief that you and other apologist keep repeating the same old lie, in order to try and exonerate muslims who slaughter innocent people on a daily basis around the globe.

[quote]You have failed to quote us exactly what you consider to "fallacious", Moses. Therefore I am forced to conclude that you are lying. Pure and simple. You are attempting to claim I lie, when in reality I am telling the truth. You and your interpretation of The Bible are flawed. You refuse to accept me, so you claim I am lying, when in reality I tell the truth. Tsk, tsk.

&

Where is it? Quote it back to us.

&

Yet more false witness, Moses? Where have I ever defended "Muslim torturers and killers"? Here is your chance to prove your case. Failure on your part will simply prove my charge that you're telling lies true.

The above first couple of paragraphs are the undisputed proof of your dishonesty.

Quote:

moses wrote:[quote]Give just one example of the N.T. urging rape torture and mass murder as being the highest path a Christian can take.

Brian Ross wrote:I Corinthians 7:3-4:
Quote:

Women are, according to The Bible, denied the right to determine if they wish to have sex or not with their husbands, Moses. That quote is from the New Testament. Tsk, tsk. It condones marital rape.[/quote][/quote]

From the dictionary:

benevolence Noun

1/.Disposition to do good

2/.An inclination to do kind or charitable acts

3/.An act intending or showing kindness and good will

So according to you a couple of verses which recommend a reciprocal exchange of kind and charitable acts between a husband and wife, equate to the verses of the qur'an which indisputably tell muslims that rape torture and mass murder are perfectly O.K. for the muslim to commit?

Like I said before you're one sick lying apologist for islamic atrocities committed by muslims who follow the qur'an to the very letter.[/quote]

Your problem, Moses is that when you quote the verses, you only ever quote the verses which support your argument and ignore the next or other verses which contradict you. I've posted the next verse, many times but you ignore them. I wonder why? Is it because you don't like being shown for what you are: a zealot? Tsk, tsk. Run along back to your Bible School, looks to me like you need more learnin', perhaps the kind Priest will show you have to do it for him? Mmmm? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm

Reply #115 - Yesterday at 6:33pm

Quote:

Your problem, Moses is that when you quote the verses, you only ever quote the verses which support your argument and ignore the next or other verses which contradict you. I've posted the next verse, many times but you ignore them. I wonder why? Is it because you don't like being shown for what you are: a zealot? Tsk, tsk. Run along back to your Bible School, looks to me like you need more learnin', perhaps the kind Priest will show you have to do it for him? Mmmm?

You failed miserably to back up your lie that Christian doctrine urges rape torture and murder.

You posted a couple of verses which teach that a husband and wife should render due benevolence unto each other.

What a whacko you are, posting such deliberate lies for what?

To exonerate the filth and perversion in the qur'an which teaches muslims that the highest grade of muslims are the ones who rape torture and slaughter innocent men women and children, for a great reward of big breasted aliens and little boys with eyes like pearls for their everlasting sexual pleasure in allahs' big brothel in the sky.

I think it's very telling that for the last approximately 17 years since (9 / 11) the apologists have lied incessantly to defend and excuse islamic terrorists, you have now sunk to an unprecedented level of depravity with your latest attempts to excuse muslims who deliberately slaughter little kids (girls in particular) at a childrens' concert.

There are no words obscene enough, to describe the sick leftard apologists in the world today.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 2:04pm

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

I think it's very telling that for the last approximately 17 years since (9 / 11) the apologists have lied incessantly to defend and excuse islamic terrorists

Example?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 2:16pm

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

Reply #115 - Yesterday at 6:33pm

Quote:

How about Jewish doctrine, Moses?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:34pm

What's Jewish doctrine got to do with islamic terrorism and lying apologists?

Another smokescreen on your part?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 2:04pm:

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

I think it's very telling that for the last approximately 17 years since (9 / 11) the apologists have lied incessantly to defend and excuse islamic terrorists

Example?

moses?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:41pm

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:34pm:

What's Jewish doctrine got to do with islamic terrorism and lying apologists?

Another smokescreen on your part?

What's Christian doctrine got to do with the Torah?

Lying apologists? Another smokescreen?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote Today at 2:04pm:

Quote:

moses wrote :[quote]I think it's very telling that for the last approximately 17 years since (9 / 11) the apologists have lied incessantly to defend and excuse islamic terrorists

example[/quote]

It's got nothing to do wiv islam.

islam is a religion of peace.

it's written in arabic you can't translate it.

it doesn't mean what it says.

Christian doctrine is just as evil as islam.

it's all in the interpretation.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:46pm

Don't want to answer the question, eh?

I understand.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:54pm

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

Reply #115 - Yesterday at 6:33pm

Quote:

You failed miserably to back up your lie that Christian doctrine urges rape torture and murder.

You posted a couple of verses which teach that a husband and wife should render due benevolence unto each other.

I posted verses which allowed the Husband to demand sex from his wife whether she wants to or not, Moses. Deal with it. It amounts to rape within marriage. tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

What a whacko you are, posting such deliberate lies for what?

No lies, just a literal interpretation of what was written in The Bible, Moses. You know? Just like you do with the Koran. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

To exonerate the filth and perversion in the qur'an which teaches muslims that the highest grade of muslims are the ones who rape torture and slaughter innocent men women and children, for a great reward of big breasted aliens and little boys with eyes like pearls for their everlasting sexual pleasure in allahs' big brothel in the sky.

Who's exonerated anything, except in your imagination? I haven't commented one way to the t'other as I am not a Muslim. I simply note that Muslims interpret those verses differently to how you do. Perhaps because they know what they actually mean when you don't? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

I think it's very telling that for the last approximately 17 years since (9 / 11) the apologists have lied incessantly to defend and excuse islamic terrorists, you have now sunk to an unprecedented level of depravity with your latest attempts to excuse muslims who deliberately slaughter little kids (girls in particular) at a childrens' concert.

Where have I excused anybody, anything, Moses? I merely point out that what occurred in Manchester was perpetrated by extremists, not the ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims which you tar with your broad brush. Until you recognise there are differences in how the extremists interpret the Koran and how the moderates do it, you'll simply be pissing in the wind.

Here is a question for you, Moses. What would you do to the Muslims if you had the power and the chance to do anything? Kill them? Force convert them to Christianity? Imprison them? What?

Quote:

There are no words obscene enough, to describe the sick leftard apologists in the world today.

There are no words obscene enough, to describe the sick Christian zealot apologists in the world today, Moses. You are disgusting with your hatred of anything non-Christian. Tsk, tsk. So much for obeying your lord's instructions about "loving thy enemy..." ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:17pm

Yes, but Moses interprets the words of his prophet to love thine enemy as thyself as a command to hate all Muslims.

It doesn't mean what it says, you see.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:53pm

Are you sure you didn't post the bit that said anyone called bwian rapes his own butt bwian?
I don't recall you posting or proving any such thing as you claim bwian...
Wassup... got nothing but lies now?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:17pm:

Yes, but Moses interprets the words of his prophet to love thine enemy as thyself as a command to hate all Muslims.

It doesn't mean what it says, you see.

Muslim Jihadists interpret it as weakness and an excuse to take advantage of and kill others.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:55pm

Reply #124 - Today at 3:54pm

Quote:

I provided a quote that proved that Christian doctrine allowed rape within marriage, Moses. You don't like that being pointed out, it appears. Tsk, tsk. Christianity, the religion promoting rape within marriage

I posted verses which allowed the Husband to demand sex from his wife whether she wants to or not, Moses. Deal with it. It amounts to rape within marriage. tsk, tsk.

No lies, just a literal interpretation of what was written in The Bible, Moses. You know? Just like you do with the Koran. Tsk, tsk.

Your quoted verses were:

Quote:

I Corinthians 7:3-4:
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:57pm

Yep bwian is a fruitcake that is for sure.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Yep bwian is a fruitcake that is for sure.

That's 'debating,' is it?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:13pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 3:34pm:

What's Jewish doctrine got to do with islamic terrorism and lying apologists?

Another smokescreen on your part?

What's Christian doctrine got to do with the Torah?

Lying apologists? Another smokescreen?

Well karnal, who's a lying ignorant cuckoo then eh? ;D ;D ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah#Alternative_names
That might help you a bit, we have been over it before, perhaps you should engage your brain this time and attempt to learn something.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Yep bwian is a fruitcake that is for sure.

That's 'debating,' is it?

Trolling again I see Aussie.
To answer your idiocy, no that isn't debating that's agreeing with a poster.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Yep bwian is a fruitcake that is for sure.

That's 'debating,' is it?

Trolling again I see Aussie.
To answer your idiocy, no that isn't debating that's agreeing with a poster.

Was that poster debating, Grendel...or was it the usual ad hom crap you have endorsed?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam is imploding.

Awesome stuff ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:42pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Yep bwian is a fruitcake that is for sure.

That's 'debating,' is it?

Trolling again I see Aussie.
To answer your idiocy, no that isn't debating that's agreeing with a poster.

Grendel.....ITP.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Reply #124 - Today at 3:54pm

Quote:

Your quoted verses were:

[quote]
I Corinthians 7:3-4:
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Now the dictionary tells us:

Noun benevolence

1/. Disposition to do good

2/. An inclination to do kind or charitable acts

3/.An act intending or showing kindness and good will

So according to you *An act intending or showing kindness and good will* is rape?

Or a verse which tells a married couple they have equall power over each other means the wife can rape the husband?
[/quote]

"Benevolence" can mean many different things in a Biblical context. Remember, sexual matters were not discussed as openly as they are today in Jacobite England or before that in biblical times. "Benevolence" means "favour" which in this context refers to sexual favours, Moses. A husband shows sexual favours to his wife, she is expected to return them without question. She is directed to obey her husband. She "hath no power over her body"... Tsk, tsk, this amounts to rape in marriage, Moses, no matter how you dress it up. You support domestic violence as prescribed by The Bible it seems. ::)

Quote:

Your 17 years of constantly lying to excuse islamic terrorism has got to you, you tell us kindness and equality are now rape.

You have failed dismally to produce proof that I am "lying", Moses. Knock it off, I have never "knowingly told an untruth", unlike you. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

You have failed dismally to produce proof that I am "lying", Moses. Knock it off, I have never "knowingly told an untruth", unlike you. ::) ::) ::)

That is why we think you are EITHER stupid OR lying.

You are not a man who talks in good faith if you are not mad.
You are mad if you really believe the crap you say.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 7:59pm

Frank wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

You have failed dismally to produce proof that I am "lying", Moses. Knock it off, I have never "knowingly told an untruth", unlike you. ::) ::) ::)

That is why we think you are EITHER stupid OR lying.

You are not a man who talks in good faith if you are not mad.
You are mad if you really believe the crap you say.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Always the card, hey, Soren? In reality, you're the fool. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 9:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Reply #124 - Today at 3:54pm

Quote:

"Benevolence" can mean many different things in a Biblical context. Remember, sexual matters were not discussed as openly as they are today in Jacobite England or before that in biblical times. "Benevolence" means "favour" which in this context refers to sexual favours, Moses. A husband shows sexual favours to his wife, she is expected to return them without question. She is directed to obey her husband. She "hath no power over her body"... Tsk, tsk, this amounts to rape in marriage, Moses, no matter how you dress it up. You support domestic violence as prescribed by The Bible it seems. ::)

Quote:

Your 17 years of constantly lying to excuse islamic terrorism has got to you, you tell us kindness and equality are now rape.

You have failed dismally to produce proof that I am "lying", Moses. Knock it off, I have never "knowingly told an untruth", unlike you. ::) ::) ::)

[/quote]
Here we go with bwian twisting and turning in an attempt to not admit he was WRONG yet again.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 3:31pm

Reply #136 - Yesterday at 6:39pm

Quote:

A desperate post by you again.

You quoted a couple of biblical verses E.G.:

Quote:

I Corinthians 7:3-4:
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

verse 3 enjoins a married couple to treat each other with kindness and good will

verse 4 tells a married couple they are equal partners in each other, equality in marriage, they both have equal power over each other.

However your 17 years of lying excuses for islamic terrorism has now borne its fruits.

You are now telling us that kindness, good will and equality, actually mean rape.

Just one more lie on your part to add to the 17 year stockpile of apologists' fallacies.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:34pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Sex is a real problem in The Bible, Moses. Some people try and use verses to proscribe pre-marital sex, some try and say it says nothing about pre-marital sex. Paul is pretty emphatic in how believes women are second-class citizens and should be subservient to their menfolk. Rape in marriage appears to be allowed, according to those versus. You appear to condone domestic violence including it seems, rape in marriage, Moses. Typical of a middle-aged Christian zealot. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm

I know it's hard for you after 17 years of being a liar.

However normal people don't regard kindness, good will and equality as rape.

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for islamic terrorism?

I'd be careful, you mightn't get one, the muzzies might be liars like you.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:10pm

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for islamic terrorism?

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for the intrinsic paedophilia within Catholic churches and other Christian institutions, moses?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

He's been a liar and a hypocrite as long as I've known of him back in 1996.

He obviously has issues, otherwise he wouldn't try so hard to defend the indefensible or lie his way out of his earlier lies.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for the intrinsic paedophilia within Catholic churches and other Christian institutions, Goosey?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 8:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for the intrinsic paedophilia within Catholic churches and other Christian institutions, Goosey?

I'm curious.

Not intrinsic.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:03pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for the intrinsic paedophilia within Catholic churches and other Christian institutions, Goosey?

I'm curious.

Not intrinsic.

Apologist.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

While Islam is all about gay sex and promiscuity and equal rights for women, isn't it, Braindead?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 2:20pm

Oh poor peccerhead, wassup?
Did you get confused and think you were bwian?

Not a Catholic peccer. Can't answer your irrelevant question.
Pretty sure most clergy are not pedophiles though. You?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 6:30pm

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

I know it's hard for you after 17 years of being a liar.

However normal people don't regard kindness, good will and equality as rape.

Today, normal people call a dick a dick and a vagina a vagina. The Bible uses all sorts of euphemisms for the sexual organs and the act of procreation. Appears you refuse to accept that. Must make your sex life interesting, Moses. Tsk. tsk. ::)

Quote:

How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for islamic terrorism?

I have provided you with ample opportunity to prove I have "apologised for Islamic Terrorism", Moses. You have failed to do so. Tsk, tsk, more breaking of the fourth commandment. Naughty, naughty, what will your Lord say? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 6:33pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

While Islam is all about gay sex and promiscuity and equal rights for women, isn't it, Braindead?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren, when are you going to stop your silly ad hominem attacks? They simply prove that you have lost the debate. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 16^th, 2017 at 8:04pm

Oh dearie dearie me bwian still obfuscating and posting SILLY AD HOMINEM ATTACKS tsk tsk tsk... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm

A liar with a 17 year track record wrote Reply #150 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

Quote:

A frequent claim by you, Moses. Funny how you have refused everytime my offer to allow you to quote back your proof that I have, "knowingly told an untruth". Tsk, tsk, it appears the only liar is you. You've broken the fourth commandment yet again, Moses. What will your Lord say?

Today, normal people call a dick a dick and a vagina a vagina. The Bible uses all sorts of euphemisms for the sexual organs and the act of procreation. Appears you refuse to accept that. Must make your sex life interesting, Moses. Tsk. tsk.

I have provided you with ample opportunity to prove I have "apologised for Islamic Terrorism", Moses. You have failed to do so. Tsk, tsk, more breaking of the fourth commandment. Naughty, naughty, what will your Lord say?

Oh gee all that to try and push your loony statements that kindness charity and equality really mean rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:18pm

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Never admitted to telling a lie.... :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

moses wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm:

A liar with a 17 year track record wrote Reply #150 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

Quote:

Oh gee all that to try and push your loony statements that kindness charity and equality really mean rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

Never. You have thus far failed to prove that I have "knowingly told an untruth", Moses.

You refuse to accept that language and it's meaning has changed since the time The Bible was compiled. It is why you have the Aramaic, Greek, Early English, King Charles, King James, and modern English translations of The Bible - the language is subtly different in each, depending on who and when it was translated. Each uses similar but different words for the same things. Yet, even in the modern translations, they skirt around clear references to sex, sexual organs and what they did with them. Tsk, tsk. You really are rather foolish, Moses. Until you produce proof, it is you who is the liar, not me. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:29am

Grendel wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:18pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Never admitted to telling a lie.... :D :D :D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Never admitted to telling a lie.... :D :D :D
Never ever eh bwian.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yet you are a self-deluded, lying hypocrite.... :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

Quote:

Gee more fallacies from you.

Translations into another language are made so that people from different countries with different languages can understand them.

Nothing more nothing less.

Please tell us when kindness goodwill and equality really meant rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

moses wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

Quote:

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

Tell us, Moses, why is the King James version of The Bible considered the one which was "divinely inspired"? Was it because of it's content or it's language? If it was it's content, why weren't previous versions of The Bible considered "divinely inspired"? Further, if The Bible itself is "divinely inspired", who can have the authority to order it's translation, except God? Tsk, tsk, questions which I expect you'll avoid. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

moses wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

Quote:

One perfect example is using the translation LORD GOD for the YHWH in Hebrew in standard Bibles, and using God for Elohim or El. Of course, the exception to this is the Jehovah Witnesses' Bible, which uses the name Jehovah.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:32pm

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Please refer to my example above.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 8:37pm

Quote:

Divinely inspired?

I'm under the impression that it's a very accurate translation of the original Greek writings.

I 'm also under the impression you're floundering, as you try to give credence to your absurd statements that, kindness compassion and equality, really mean rape.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

Do my own research to know that you are lying??

I have done my own research and so I am calling you an ignorant liar. The assertion you have made, highlighted above, is a complete and utter Brian Munchausen lie and deception.

Prove that you are not a liar. You can't.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:57pm

Frank wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

For the second time, please refer to my example above.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 10:01pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

For the second time, please refer to my example above.

Oh, I don't think the old boy's too keen on research, Augie. He just wants an excuse to give Brian a piece of his mind.

Frank spends most of his day calling complaints lines. He just comes here to relax.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 10:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

For the second time, please refer to my example above.

I must say: I do enjoy your humour, K. Keep up the good work.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 10:06pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... ::)

For the second time, please refer to my example above.

Seen it, it's ignorant, low brow nonsense.

The Jewish/Christian god is a verb. Allah is a noun.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 6:55am

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

Great news. But for how much longer are we going to tolerate that the "extremes" of Islam is slashing people's throats while they eat dinner?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 12:38pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 6:55am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

Great news. But for how much longer are we going to tolerate that the "extremes" of Islam is slashing people's throats while they eat dinner?

You tolerate it? Why? I certainly don't, and don't know anyone who does.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 1:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 6:55am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

Great news. But for how much longer are we going to tolerate that the "extremes" of Islam is slashing people's throats while they eat dinner?

You tolerate it? Why? I certainly don't, and don't know anyone who does.

if you don't tolerate it, then you must be doing something to stop it.
oh wait.... you just accept it right? :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

AugCaesarustus wrote:

Quote:

In your examples AugCaesarustus God, Y.H.W.H. etc. are all written as meaning the God of the Hebrews. They all have exactly the same meaning. They are not written / translated to imply the total opposite. (as Brian Ross was with his illustrations)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 6:05pm

moses wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

AugCaesarustus wrote:

Quote:

The thing is that some people say that Eloyon is the High God and that YHWH or Yahweh is a lesser God who was Elyon's son. The Israeli people appropriated YHWH as their own God and He become the God of Israel.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:33pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

Why don't you find a flame somewhere and fly into it, the world would be a better place.

I do everything I can within the law to stop it mothra.... what do you do? It is not like it is part of my life though or the life of anyone I know.

Like I said if I was a Muslim I would do whatever I could do to stop it. What would you do? :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:34pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

Tough question, huh?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:47pm

No just stupidity on your behalf... you apparently never notice your stupidity though. :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:49pm

Nope. It's exactly the same standard you're holding Gandalf to.

Pity you fail your own test.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:12pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

Muslims are murdering people on behalf of other Muslims - they allahu akhbar, they do it for Allah, they cite chapter and verse. It is clear to all concerned that they are acting ISLAMICALLY. So it is every Muslim's concern, as far as they identify with Islam.

A bloke raping a woman is NOT doing it on behalf of all men, not shouting male ideological slogans about the NEED to rape women and is not, thereby, identifying any group one can CHOOSE to VOLUNTARILY belong to.

For a bint big-noting herself as 'critical thinker' you are unusually thick and non-thinking, mothra.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

No just stupidity on your behalf... you apparently never notice your stupidity though. :D

But how convenient that you're not a Muslim.

You're like a leftard who calls on rich people to pay more tax but won't pay more himself. ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

I know you think that's logic but not so much.

Most Muslims reject terrorism so nothing is being done in their name at all.

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and children.

If you are hold all Muslims to account for Islamists, you must hold all Christians responsible for all of their bad bunch, all Jews for Zionists, all Buddhists for Myanmar ... and all men for sexual assault.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by mothra on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:22pm

You just don't like being caught up in the type of sweeping generalisation you dispense.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:58pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Nope. It's exactly the same standard you're holding Gandalf to.

Pity you fail your own test.

Ah no its not.... but then YOU are a dope. :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

So by that logic G - you tolerate it - right?

If I was muslim I'd be doing something to stop it. ::) ::) ::)

What are you doing, as a man, to stop sexual assault of women and children?

If people are responsible for the badly behaved members of their demographics that is.

:D :D :D
If you can boast of being a critical thinker, anything goes. I can claim anything.

Most men reject toxic masculinity so no rape is done in their name.

I will hold Christians, Jews, Buddhists responsible for what is done in their name once there is a Christian, Jewish and Buddhist jihad that kills people shouting Christian etc slogams, citing Christian etc verses while they do the slaughtering and once I see hears of sectarian Christian etc violence in the name of those shouted slogans.

Until then, it's Islam inspiring, motivating and fuelling a world-wide murderous war on all in the name of Allah and Mohammed, their role model. And if you are a Muslim who identifies with that Islam, you are implicated. If you are a decent human being you should denounce Islam and leave it. It's toxic and is in the hands of monsters. If you stay Muslim today it's like staying a communist after what the Soviets did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia and Poland. Completely unconscionable.

If you are a sharia-believing Muslim you do not reject terrorism. If you are a hijabi, niqabi, stupid beardy pajama-wearing insh'allahing Muslim, you ARE for sharia and so you are for jihad. You won't let us forget it for a minute just how much you ARE for jihad.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

If you can boast of being a critical thinker, anything goes. I can claim anything.

Nothing unusual with you, then, now is there, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 10:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

If you can boast of being a critical thinker, anything goes. I can claim anything.

Nothing unusual with you, then, now is there, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe.

Thank you gweggy, you will never be anything but an idiot, no mater what guise you try on.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 12:02am

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

If you can boast of being a critical thinker, anything goes. I can claim anything.

Nothing unusual with you, then, now is there, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe.

Thank you gweggy, you will never be anything but an idiot, no mater what guise you try on.

Greggy? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:43am

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

No just stupidity on your behalf... you apparently never notice your stupidity though. :D

But how convenient that you're not a Muslim.

You're like a leftard who calls on rich people to pay more tax but won't pay more himself. ;D ;D

Really?
What does that mean?
I know many Muslims some are very good friends.
I have had a very good education on many religions.
I have no influence in the Muslim world because I am not a muslim... your argument falls down right there.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

So according to both of you Muslim males have more of this toxicity because they require their women to hide themselves otherwise they will be raped. Goodo...
You people are a joke. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:47am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 12:02am:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

If you can boast of being a critical thinker, anything goes. I can claim anything.

Nothing unusual with you, then, now is there, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe.

Thank you gweggy, you will never be anything but an idiot, no mater what guise you try on.

Greggy? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Frank "thinks" we are socks. ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 12:03pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

if you are a Muslim who identifies with that Islam, you are implicated.

Great - since I'm not a muslim who identifiees with "that" Islam. Will you get off my case now? ;)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 1:23pm

So Gandalf, you don't identify with that Islam, you identify with that Islam... Did I get that right?

Little wonder then we have problems identifying those Muslims and those Muslims then eh? ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:41pm

Depends if you talk to those Muslims or those muslims... according to.... hmmm.... lets pick a winner here.
Yassmin Abdel-Magieb, Islam is the most feminist religion.
Mind you she apparently seeks advice on matters Islamic now from Hizb ut-Tahrir those other, other Muslims.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:51pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:41pm:

I think her comment about 'Islam being the most feminist religion' was the wrong thing to say and I think she knows that. From a PR perspective, she got it wrong.

She should've said: "Islam for me is a personal thing, and whilst it guides my life personally, I don't wish to impose it on anyone else, and I respect the laws of the country in which I live."

No religion is 'feminist' given that the latter was developed in the 20th century.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:53pm

Are you saying a Muslim doesn't know what she's talking about? ;D

You see, the more you talk to more Muslims, the more you get a better picture of Islam. Even though Muslims slay their fellow Muslims, there is one defining unity... victimhood.
They are all Muslims... victims of the Non-Muslims. In the end, that binary absolutism, is their reality and it is what defines them. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:03pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

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Posted by: Grendel Posted on: Today at 2:53pm
Are you saying a Muslims doesn't know what she's talking about?

No, I'm saying that of the possible answers she could've given, she gave the wrong one. Maybe her PR advisor advised her incorrectly?

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:53pm:

ay their fellow Muslims, there is one defining unity... victimhood.
They are all Muslims... victims of the Non-Muslims. In the end, that binary absolutism, is their reality and it is what de

The thing is, devoutly religious people, aren't going to admit that what they've believed in all their life is false or evil; that kind of dissonance would turn people's worlds upside down.

I watched a video on BBC once of a young British Muslim giving an interview and a bystander admonished Sharia law, and she replie: "do you want to talk about Sharia law?" Now, the man didn't say anything, but you and I in that situation would've said: "sure, let's talk about Sharia law? For e.g. would you be allowed to talk on television?'

Ultimately, what ends up happening is that Muslims affirm that Sharia law 'is no different' from the status quo - that the institutions of parliamentary democracy are an Islamic thing.

Regarding the victimhood, I think a significant minority of minorities (no pun intended) think of themselves as victims. I'm of a minority, and I don't consider myself a victim, by the way.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm

Personally i think
1/ You need to get to know more Muslims and
2/ rethink what I actually said.
Oh and...
3/ reply to the whole comment not just bits of it at a time... its a contextual thing.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

How is that different to Christianity? Read St.Paul's little missals to various peoples to see what I mean. Then you have recently the weirdo Christian fundamentalists suggesting that women "should not cut their hair because it makes them ugly" and should be "subservient to their men." Tsk, tsk. Some Christians never change but the Islamophobes agree with their misogyny, now don't they? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

Its different because most christians agree that the bible was written by human beings who held a variety of opinions and wrote about their experiences. The Quran is considered the actual and literal word of god; hermeneutics is more difficult to achieve in the Quran.

Second, Paul was a complicated character. I think he changed his mind half the time and spoke with passion.

Third Paul's teachings are always seen as secondary to Jesus' teachings.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Personally i think
1/ You need to get to know more Muslims and
2/ rethink what I actually said.
Oh and...
3/ reply to the whole comment not just bits of it at a time... its a contextual thing.

Yes said that most Muslims think they're victims, I disagree. I've met Muslims who don't have that view, often because of the country they're from.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:19pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

So's the Bible, Augie.

2 Peter:

Quote:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:21pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Personally i think
1/ You need to get to know more Muslims and
2/ rethink what I actually said.
Oh and...
3/ reply to the whole comment not just bits of it at a time... its a contextual thing.

Yes said that most Muslims think they're victims, I disagree. I've met Muslims who don't have that view, often because of the country they're from.

Perhaps the most famous 20th century Muslim is Muhammed Ali.

No Viet Cong ever called me ni&&er.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:30pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

So's the Bible, Augie.

2 Peter:

Quote:

Being moved by the Holy Ghost does not infer infallibility. Second, no author of the bible claimed to be dictating the exact literal word of God. Peter made that statement because scripture is about authority - this is be word of God, you must do as it says...

In my view, nothing is the word of god; no one is infallible.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:52pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

So's the Bible, Augie.

2 Peter:

Quote:

Being moved by the Holy Ghost does not infer infallibility. Second, no author of the bible claimed to be dictating the exact literal word of God.

That's what it's saying, Augie. The Bible is saying that God Himself is speaking through "holy men" and prophets.

There are plenty of other quotes that support this, both in the Old and the New. Check out this link:

http://christiananswers.net/bible/2pet1.html#20

And this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura

The belief in the Bible being the inerrant Word of God is intrinsic to the Christian faith, as every schoolboy knows.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 5:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:52pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 4:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:45am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

It's toxic masculinity that leads to the sexual assault of women and childre.

Agreed.

Well, I think you would agree that there is more misogyny in the Islamic community, given that their theology is misogynistic?

So's the Bible, Augie.

2 Peter:

Quote:

Being moved by the Holy Ghost does not infer infallibility. Second, no author of the bible claimed to be dictating the exact literal word of God.

Yes, you're right. The Bible does make that claim.

I guess then what has changed is how Christians view the scripture. Most, I think, would see it as God-inspired, rather than the Word of God. Most Christians don't take the slave verses seriously; they generally just cherry-pick. In that case, it can be argued that Muslims also cherry-pick verses.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm

Lets dispense with this myth that there aren't christian fundamentalist terrorist rampaging around and killing en-masse. Its happening and its been happening for centuries. Today its mostly in Africa, there are numerous groups and the Lords Resistance Army certainly isn't the only one. And its not just terrorism - all the barbaric stereotypes we associate with Islam - stoning, FGM, honour killings - you name it - most of these things are far more prevalent amongst christian societies in Africa than they are amongst muslims in Africa.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

True, but it's not a global movement, and they're not preaching for world domination.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:47pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

True, but it's not a global movement, and they're not preaching for world domination.

Not even ISIS makes that claim, Augie. While phoney, they make the ambitious claim to be fighting for the borders of the Caliphate, circa 1100 or so.

No other Muslim group in the last few hundred years has sought expansion at all.

Always absolutely never ever, eh?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:59pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

True, but it's not a global movement, and they're not preaching for world domination.

So, why are they organizing attacks in the West? My understanding is that they're a global movement. I agree, I think we should let them have their 'historical borders' but then they'd want Israel and the Jews out.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

So, you're making excuses for Christian Terrorism, Augie? Tsk, tsk. You are shaping up to be an apologist for fundamental Christianity. You appear to accept the teachings of Paul and the other parts of The Bible which promote it. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

No, I don't. I think Paul was a**hole. He perverted the religion of Christianity away from Jesus' teachings. That's why I don't take stock in what he says.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:47pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

True, but it's not a global movement, and they're not preaching for world domination.

I have no idea why they're organising attacks in the West, Augie, and I don't think they do either.

But I definitely don't think ISIL should be in charge of any borders. The Islamic caliphates are history.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want Oliver Cromwell or the Popes in charge these days either.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:12pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

No, I don't. I think Paul was a**hole. He perverted the religion of Christianity away from Jesus' teachings. That's why I don't take stock in what he says.

That's you, Augie, what about all them Fundamentalist Christians who believe that The Bible is divinely inspired? They cannot ignore it's teaching, now can they? Tsk, tsk, always making excuses, you're shaping up to be an apologist for Christian Fundamentalism, you know, the type that commits Terrorism? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 11:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

No, I don't. I think Paul was a**hole. He perverted the religion of Christianity away from Jesus' teachings. That's why I don't take stock in what he says.

Well if I am that is not my intention. I don't condone any violence or oppression from any religion.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:04am

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 8:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

True, but it's not a global movement, and they're not preaching for world domination.

Apparently Al Qaeda is global - and they want to destroy western societies from within. ISIS are different as they are carving out and defending real physical borders. During the occupation of Iraq one of the knucklehead's favourite justifications for its continuation was that its better to have the terrorists occupied fighting our military over there than bombing us in our homeland. I suspect ISIS operate under the same operandi - keep western resources occupied in fighting terrorists at home - and reduce the attacks on the caliphate.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am

Also, you need to understand that ISIS are operating under a 'end of days' scenario - where their brand of Islam dictates the final battle will be fought in the ME (specifically, an actual town in Syria, which interestingly ISIS recently lost). This is where Jesus will descend from heaven and spear the Islamic equivalent of the anti-Christ, and lead the muslims to victory - thus paving the ways for judgement day.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 9:08am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

;D ;D ;D

Look who's talking again!! Imam Bwian Al-Munchousen!!

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am:

Not too different from some popular American Christian narratives. For them, every war from the Cold War to the 2003 invasion of Iraq has signified the introduction of the End Times, where the anti-Christ will arise and be killed and Jesus will return to separate the sheep from the goats.

We are all one, no?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

So YOU think Paul's Epistles take precedence over the teachings of Christ do you Dr of Divinity?
:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am:

I was watching a debate between a Muslim and a the head of Jihad Watch (can't remember his name). There was an interesting argument which the Muslim made about 'war and combat against unbelievers'.

He stated that terms like 'and fight the unbelievers... or kill them... or fight those who believe not in....' referred to WHO they were fighting but don't state WHY they were fighting. I found this argument to be quite impressive, but it does leave room for interpretation. The Muslim said that at the time Christians were very belligerent and were 'massacring' Jews, and so seen in this context, this is the reason WHY the Muslims engaged in battle. Therefore, he asserted that the the reason WAS NOT BECAUSE OF the fact that they were Christians or Jews (i.e. didn't believe in the Quran) but because they were aggressive.

When they debated about 'rape' in Islam, the Muslim quoted '4:65' which gave an example of when Muhammad had refused a woman (presumable for sex), thereby showing that all the intercourse was consented to. Although the counter-argument might be that the woman was kicking up such a stink that Muhammad though she wasn't worth it, and could move on to the next one. However, when an audience member asked the Muslim about 'whether or not a 9 year old could give consent', the Muslim replied 'that is outside the scope of the topic' and didn't really address it, which was a bit problematic.
--
Which brings me to a previous post where I asked you about Muhammad's alleged 'consummation of marriage' with a nine-year girl. Your reply was that this was stated in a 'dubious' aHadith. It is stated in Sahih which apparently is the main Hadith and the considered the most authoritative in the Sunni tradition. Are you able to address this, please?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:48pm

The fact that many Muslims believe they are living in the End Times and they can precipitate its Coming is no excuse for their behaviour in a rational world.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 11:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

No, I don't. I think Paul was a**hole. He perverted the religion of Christianity away from Jesus' teachings. That's why I don't take stock in what he says.

Well if I am that is not my intention. I don't condone any violence or oppression from any religion.

Excellent, you can therefore be considered redeemable. Unlike others, we could name who post here all the time with their rampant bigotry against anything non-Christian. They are unfortunately so far gone that they are irredeemable. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am:

Oh?! the 'end days brand' of Islam - because the eternal, unalterable word of Allah has many 'brands', don't you know, infidels, depending of the kind of eyewash you are asking for - has nuffin' whatsoever to do wiv the Koran, the final, unalterable word of Allah.

It's just some other - there are many - 'nuffin' to do wiv da Koran, bro' kind of fantasy that we hear about so much from Muslims - or are they apostates??

Are you in real estate or used cars, Gandalf?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 11:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 6:01pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm:

You're making excuses, Augie. Stop being an apologist for fundamental Christianity. ::)

I'm not, Brian. My point is that everyone knows what Paul's views were. I agree that the patriarchy of the Catholic church might have promoted misogyny.

No, I don't. I think Paul was a**hole. He perverted the religion of Christianity away from Jesus' teachings. That's why I don't take stock in what he says.

Well if I am that is not my intention. I don't condone any violence or oppression from any religion.

Well, no one's perfect.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by gandalf on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 7:27pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am:

Stand by - I actually wrote a fairly lengthy response on my laptop at work, but I seem to have forgot to press post. Hopefully its still there and I can post it tomorrow morning...

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 7:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 7:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 1:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 8:09am:

Stand by - I actually wrote a fairly lengthy response on my laptop at work, but I seem to have forgot to press post. Hopefully its still there and I can post it tomorrow morning...

No problem. I have created a special post asking you to do it there under 'extremism exposed' (maybe the wrong topic?) I have also made a post to FD about the bible. I hope this ok, if not. I'll ask FD to scrap it.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

I am all for non-Chistians to stay in their own non-Christian countries. It's not like they do not have plenty.
Bringing their religions and customs brings no improvement to the West. Let in only highly quaialified apostates. The rest can go to the many non-Christians countries they already have.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 8:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Oh dearie dearie me bwian... you are just so IRREDEEMABLE.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 9:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Al Qaida started its terrorist activities because Muslims were mighty offended by 'Christians' entering Saudi Arabia to help.

Muslims should stay in Muslim countries. Their Islamic beliefs bring no improvement to the West at all, only degradation.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:31am

Islamophobia: Women wearing head coverings most at risk of attacks, study finds ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:36am

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 9:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Of course, to an Islamophobe that makes sense. You identify all Muslims as exactly the same in some sort of Borg like manner. To you, they are all extremists, all Terrorists or Terrorism supporters, they kill their women because of "honour", they behead apostates and so on and so on.

Unfortunately for you, in reality they are overwhelming just normal folks with normal beliefs and act normally. You concentrate on the tiny minority, the few, the Terrorists, the extremists, the fundamentalists and never look around at how the majority act, what the majority believe. You are the exact mirror image of those you claim to oppose, Soren. You are irrational, you are extreme, you advocate violence against innocent people simply because they believe in something you don't. You are a fascist in the true meaning of the word. You don't believe in Australia, Soren. You have failed to absorb the subtlety of a culture which is laid back, which believes in live and let live. You should be rejected because your views and your beliefs. You disgust me. Utterly. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:40am

Is it normal to think you are immodest unless you hide your hair by wearing a tent or bag over your head bwian?
Is it normal to think men will rape you unless you do so?
Is it normal to believe your religion demands this of you when in fact it doesn't but you do it anyway to stand out so your fellow muslim males don't harass you?

need I go on bwian? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 4:28pm

Quote:

You have failed to absorb the subtlety of a culture which is laid back, which believes in live and let live

What does allah say about live and let live?

qur'an 9.29: Fight those who do not believe in allah or in the last day and who do not consider unlawful what allah and his messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

no definitely no live and let live there

qur'an 3.151: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed. Their habitation is the Fire, and hapless the abode of the wrong-doers.

none there either, only hate and kill Christians

qur'an 47.4: So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if allah had willed, [b]He could have taken vengeance upon them [himself], but [he ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of allah [/b]- never will He waste their deeds.

Good grief allah could have killed the disbelievers but he prefers that muslims do it as a test, no live and let live there either

qur'an 5.51: O ye who believe! ]take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily allah guideth not a people unjust.

Oh gee don't have unbelievers as friends, none there either

qur'an 9.23: O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

Aw hell turn on your own family if they aren't believers certainly no live and let live

qur'an 2.8: And of the people are some who say, "We believe in allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.

qur'an 2.10: In their hearts is disease, so allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.

qur'an 2.11: And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."

qur'an 2.12: Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.

Seems to be if you want a bit of change or reform allah wants' you killed you are a corrupter, no live and let live there either[/quote]

qur'an 4.88: What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom allah has sent astray? And he whom allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance].

Surely not, allah has sent hypocrites astray, muslims may torture and kill them. gee what happened to live and let live?

qur'an 4.89: They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.

Yep no doubt kill the unbelievers

qur'an 33.73: [It was] so that allah may punish the hypocrite men and hypocrite women and the men and women who associate others with him and that allah may accept repentance from the believing men and believing women. And ever is allah forgiving and merciful.

well gee no live and let live there just more hatred of Christians

I don't know to me it all reads of hate torture and murder for the non muslim, but I suppose it's another lot of code for islam is a religion of peace, islamic live and let live

Looks like muzzies have failed to absorb the subtlety of a culture which is laid back, which believes in live and let live

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 6:02pm

moses wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Quote:

You have failed to absorb the subtlety of a culture which is laid back, which believes in live and let live

What does allah say about live and let live?

I wasn't discussing what Allah said, Moses.

Perhaps you'd care to explain what your God said about it?

About time you took responsibility for your own views, don't you think? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

Oh dear.... bwian just said a mouthful... blah, blah blah blah blahdy blahdy blah... anyone speak bwian here? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

Unfortunately for you, in reality they are overwhelming just normal folks with normal beliefs and act normally. You concentrate on the tiny minority, the few, the Terrorists, the extremists, the fundamentalists and never look around at how the majority act, what the majority believe. You are the exact mirror image of those you claim to oppose, Soren. You are irrational, you are extreme, you advocate violence against innocent people simply because they believe in something you don't. You are a fascist in the true meaning of the word. You don't believe in Australia, Soren. You have failed to absorb the subtlety of a culture which is laid back, which believes in live and let live. You should be rejected because your views and your beliefs. You disgust me. Utterly. ::) ::)

Islam is Islam. How Muslims relate to Islam is varied. But Islam is Islam - a thoroughly bad thing. It has simply nothing to recommend it. Nothing.

So if you are an apostate Muslim I congratulate you for having the personal strength to take responsibility for your own views and evolve in your own lifetime. If you are a pious Muslim, keen on the Koran and Mohammed, I say you are submitting to a dreadful supremacist ideology and you have no place in the West until you renounce it. (and we know all about taqiyya so 'renounce' must be meaningful).

See? I judge Muslims individually, according to their relationship to the dreadful creed of Islam.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

What? Is Ickypedia incorrect:
A Muslim is someone who follows or practices Islam

You'd better get on there and tell them where they went wrong with that OUTLANDISH deneralisation.

Everyone knows that a 'Muslim' is whatever a Muslim wants it to mean. Nuffin' to do wiv Koran, Mohammed, none of that stuff. Muslim is like gender - it can be anything. Mohammed said so 1400 years ago:

"Oh ye Muslims, you can have your end away in any which way, for Allah is merciful and forgiving and knows what you really, really want'.

He also said,
"Oh ye Muslims, you can't have your end away in any which way, for Allah is merciful and forgiving and knows what you really, really want and what's good for you'.

Eternal word of Allah, that is. Or not. I forget which.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

You're not racist, old boy. But...

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:18pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

You're not racist, old boy. But...

... Islam and Muslims are not a race.

You stupid little Paki agit-prop galah. You will never tire of being an idiot, will you??

No.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:21pm

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

You're not racist, old boy. But...

... Islam and Muslims are not a race.

Oh, I see.

But...

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:26pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:21pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

Good show, dear boy.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

You're not racist, old boy. But...

... Islam and Muslims are not a race.

Oh, I see.

But...

You are always sniffing for a butt. Butt sniffing for butts is not an argument, not even in Pakistan.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 10:09am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

You disgust most sane people bwian, with your lies and hypocrisy.
Even Gandalf, a Muslim, disagrees with YOU bwian... the moderate sensible Muslims are in the minority.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

Islam is Islam. How Muslims relate to Islam is varied. But Islam is Islam - a thoroughly bad thing. It has simply nothing to recommend it. Nothing.

And you know this, how, Soren? Oh, thats right, you just know 'cause you've never, ever, sat down and actually tried to understand Islam, now have you? Tsk, tsk. You're a bigot and an Islamophobe. ::) ::)

Quote:

So if you are an apostate Muslim I congratulate you for having the personal strength to take responsibility for your own views and evolve in your own lifetime. If you are a pious Muslim, keen on the Koran and Mohammed, I say you are submitting to a dreadful supremacist ideology and you have no place in the West until you renounce it. (and we know all about taqiyya so 'renounce' must be meaningful).

Since when was I a Muslim, Soren? I am an ex-Catholic, who gave up believing in God when the Brothers beat it out of me. I am however, respectful of others' beliefs if that is what the want to believe. You want to believe in a Pasta monster in the Sky, go for it. You want to believe in Cthulhu, go right ahead. You want to believe in Jehovah, thats up to you. Allah? Your choice. All religion is, is an opiate of the Masses, designed to explain the noises in the night as far as I am concerned. People don't deserve to be persecuted for their beliefs, Soren, not even you. Until you recognise that, I'll keep pointing out your Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

See? I judge Muslims individually, according to their relationship to the dreadful creed of Islam.

No, you don't, you judge them collectively on the basis of their beliefs, Soren. To you, Muslims don't belong here, despite being even more Australian than you. Tsk, tsk, Islamophobe. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:18pm

Pity they didn't beat you a little harder bwian they may have beaten some sense into you.
Isn't it time you addressed reality instead of continually ignoring it.
Instead of taking your psychoses out on the rest of us?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

Islam is Islam. How Muslims relate to Islam is varied. But Islam is Islam - a thoroughly bad thing. It has simply nothing to recommend it. Nothing.

So, Brian, do you really sit down with every Nazi, every Stalinist, every Scientologist, every Jehovah's Witness, every jihadi and discuss with each and every one of them what they make of their Nazi, Communist, Islamic etc views before you, Bwian, ever form a view about what it means to believe in such things??

You silly old duffer.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 11:31am:

Islamophobia: Women wearing head coverings most at risk of attacks, study finds ::) ::)

Nowhere near as much a risk as teenage girls in Manchester are from Islamists. THAT's really risky.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:41pm

It hasn't brought or created Islamic Terrorists, now has it?

Go karnal, you are on a roll... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 4:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

It hasn't brought or created Islamic Terrorists, now has it?

Very true. I'd say it hasn't brought or created Islamic anything, wouldn't you?

But the question for the old boy is what has it added to our proud white Australian culture?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:00pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

It hasn't brought or created Islamic Terrorists, now has it?

Very true. I'd say it hasn't brought or created Islamic anything, wouldn't you?
No i wouldn't say that at all because then I'd be wrong.

But the question for the old boy is what has it added to our proud white Australian culture?
I'm sure only racists talk like you do. Something else we have to be pleased about eh? you talk in colours more than anyone else I know.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:20pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Er... wine, women and music.

South Australian wineries - German Lutherans.
First wife and second wives - English Protestants
Sydney Opera House - Danish design.

What has Islam ever done for us, eh?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Lying doggo, Bwian?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:33pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

It pisses you off, Soren. Always a winner in my view. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:35pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Lying doggo, Bwian?

Nope. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 7:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

It pisses you off, Soren. Always a winner in my view. ::)

We have always known that rancour and vindictiveness are your primary motivators.

But is there anything IN Islam that has made improvement to the West (not to your deformed, shrivelled heart, Bwian)?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Lying doggo, Bwian?

Nope. ::)

Of course you are, silly old duffer. Answer, if you can:

Do you really sit down with every Nazi, every Stalinist, every Scientologist, every Jehovah's Witness, every jihadi and discuss with each and every one of them what they make of their Nazi, Communist, Islamic etc views before you, Bwian, ever form a view about what it means to believe in such things??

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

It pisses you off, Soren. Always a winner in my view. ::)

Run along, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:33pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Er... wine, women and music.

South Australian wineries - German Lutherans.
First wife and second wives - English Protestants
Sydney Opera House - Danish design.

What has Islam ever done for us, eh?

If you're going to expand our religious discussion to kultural kriteria, no worries. Homous. Tabouli. Falafel.

The Gallipoli Mosque. Camels. Kebabs. Dates.

Miam miam, dear boy. To die for.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

It pisses you off, Soren. Always a winner in my view. ::)

Now you are just being a vindictive lying hypocrite bwian :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:58am

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Er... wine, women and music.

South Australian wineries - German Lutherans.
First wife and second wives - English Protestants
Sydney Opera House - Danish design.

What has Islam ever done for us, eh?

If you're going to expand our religious discussion to kultural kriteria, no worries. Homous. Tabouli. Falafel.

The Gallipoli Mosque. Camels. Kebabs. Dates.

Miam miam, dear boy. To die for.

lets not forget...
Middle Eastern Crime and the ME Crime Squad
Gangs and Bikie gangs without bikes and all their criminal activities.
Assassinations and Drive By shootings.
Oh and those Yummy TERRORISTS of course.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:20pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

You are are NOT doing what you want me and everyone else to do.

And you wonder why we hold you in such low contempt.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:48pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Er... wine, women and music.

South Australian wineries - German Lutherans.
First wife and second wives - English Protestants
Sydney Opera House - Danish design.

What has Islam ever done for us, eh?

If you're going to expand our religious discussion to kultural kriteria, no worries. Homous. Tabouli. Falafel.

The Gallipoli Mosque. Camels. Kebabs. Dates.

Miam miam, dear boy. To die for.

You don't need to import the cooks. Just buy the cookbook.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

oh dear don't you just hate when lying hypocrites get all holier than thou and sanctimonious about nothingtsk tsk tsk bwian do try to actually debate the issues for a change. :D
Its very hard to shout in text bwian, some would say impossible. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

Pinning you as a spineless, shifty, squishy hypochrite is actually OVERESTIMATING you, Bwian.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:06pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

Pinning you as a spineless, shifty, squishy hypochrite is actually OVERESTIMATING you, Bwian.

Where's he from, Frank?

Denmark?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Thanks for proving my point for me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Well, what improvement has the increasing presence of Islam in Australia brought to your life, Brian?

Do explain.

Excellent question, dear boy. If I may ask in response, what has the presence of Lutheranism in Australia brought to your life?

In the words of your prophetess, please explain?

Er... wine, women and music.

South Australian wineries - German Lutherans.
First wife and second wives - English Protestants
Sydney Opera House - Danish design.

What has Islam ever done for us, eh?

If you're going to expand our religious discussion to kultural kriteria, no worries. Homous. Tabouli. Falafel.

The Gallipoli Mosque. Camels. Kebabs. Dates.

Miam miam, dear boy. To die for.

You don't need to import the cooks. Just buy the cookbook.

I believe they did that with the Opera House after they threw out Jorn Utzon, no?

Just think, we could have left the Lutherans at home and had all that kulture.

So I'm curious: what has Lutheranism added to your life that you couldn't find in a Gideons?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lord Herbert on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Own goal, Brian.

It's not up to these 'scholars' to do any 'interpreting' or re-jigging of Allah's direct instructions as told through his prophet Mohammad (pbuh).

The Christian bible is open to re-jigging, re-interpretations, editing, skewing and screwing, but not so the Sacred Texts of Islam.

It doesn't matter how well-versed these Islamic scholars are in the details of Islam's Sacred Text ~ they have absolutely no authority to insert abrogations or deny what has already been written.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L966DbZkZ3A

A Society Of Cowards

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

Pinning you as a spineless, shifty, squishy hypochrite is actually OVERESTIMATING you, Bwian.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing new to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem debate. Tsk, tsk. I don't know why he bothers, really I don't. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Herbie, I don't know why you bother, I really don't. You know only what you read on your Stormfront forum about Islam. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 9:34pm

LOL
Here's bwian avoiding again.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 12:23am

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Seems some people like to shout rather than actually discuss what is being debated. Tsk, tsk, will they never learn that politeness is the best policy? ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

Pinning you as a spineless, shifty, squishy hypochrite is actually OVERESTIMATING you, Bwian.

Where's he from, Frank?

Denmark?

No. Perth.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L966DbZkZ3A

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

It is done by a professional Provocateur, Bobby. He has no relevance to Australia or the UK of today. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

It is done by a professional Provocateur, Bobby. He has no relevance to Australia or the UK of today. ::) ::)

:D
Look who's talking! Mr spineless, irrelevant provocation hisself!

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:09pm

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

It is done by a professional Provocateur, Bobby. He has no relevance to Australia or the UK of today. ::) ::)

:D
Look who's talking! Mr spineless, irrelevant provocation hisself!

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Move along folks, it's just Soren displaying his tired old ad hominem arguments yet again. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Whoever suggested it was, except the Islamophobes, SW? ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Whoever suggested it was, except the Islamophobes, SW? ::)

Just reminding you Brian, what the scholars may say means Jack to the head hackers, human detonators and Grand Theft Auto cultists.

You clowns always try and put a benign spin on things, "oh Jihad, that just means you love puppies" and worse, you apologists attempt this spin with full awareness of the reality, but you can't help yourselves, parading virtue and basking in your beatitude.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

It is done by a professional Provocateur, Bobby. He has no relevance to Australia or the UK of today. ::) ::)

He was a comedian but the video is serious &
applies to Australia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L966DbZkZ3A

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:50pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Whoever suggested it was, except the Islamophobes, SW? ::)

Just reminding you Brian, what the scholars may say means Jack to the head hackers, human detonators and Grand Theft Auto cultists.

They aren't addressing them, SW. They are addressing the ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims, telling them, if they are thinking of joining them, they shouldn't and providing the reasons why. It's like the Catholic Churches' condemnation of the PIRA. ::)

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You clowns always try and put a benign spin on things, "oh Jihad, that just means you love puppies" and worse, you apologists attempt this spin with full awareness of the reality, but you can't help yourselves, parading virtue and basking in your beatitude.

Oh, dear, you appear to be ascribing motives completely alien to me, SW. I wonder why? Oh, well, I suppose you'll claim I'm a Muslim next... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

A Society Of Cowards

Didn't anyone watch that?

It's a great video.

It is done by a professional Provocateur, Bobby. He has no relevance to Australia or the UK of today. ::) ::)

He was a comedian but the video is serious &
applies to Australia

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Whoever suggested it was, except the Islamophobes, SW? ::)

Just reminding you Brian, what the scholars may say means Jack to the head hackers, human detonators and Grand Theft Auto cultists.

Oh, dear, you appear to be ascribing motives completely alien to me, SW. I wonder why? Oh, well, I suppose you'll claim I'm a Muslim next... ::)

Nahhh, you are just a preening smug self loathing luvvie apologist who has submitted.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

You mindless old aunty, you have simply no counter-argument because you are too thick, too PC and too Islamophiliac and inarticulate (they tend to all come in that bundle) to listen, comprehend and argue against.

If you were right you could easily articulate why you are right - but you are stupid, you are inarticulate and you are wring. So you just hide behind endless stupid yawns, tut-tuts and bromides.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

Now that Brian is an ad hominem, you are not debating any merit of his arguments but rejecting it based on the person.

See that is an ad Hom. Calling you an idiot isn't and I can safely call you an idiot cos you constantly use ad Hom in an effort to sound smart and consistently get it wrong.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 4:04pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

just so.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

Islam ain't a monolith. 8-)

Whoever suggested it was, except the Islamophobes, SW? ::)

Just reminding you Brian, what the scholars may say means Jack to the head hackers, human detonators and Grand Theft Auto cultists.

Oh, dear, you appear to be ascribing motives completely alien to me, SW. I wonder why? Oh, well, I suppose you'll claim I'm a Muslim next... ::)

Nahhh, you are just a preening smug self loathing luvvie apologist who has submitted.

Nope. No "submission" from me. I believe everybody is innocent until proven guilty, SW. Everybody deserves a free and fair chance to prove themselves, one way to t'other. Muslims should be respected until they show they don't deserve it. Ordinary, everyday, moderate, law-abiding Muslims are innocent of any crime, except in the minds of Islamophobes. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

Sorry, did you say something, Soren? I mean, something useful and to the point of the discussion or just your usual resorting to ad hominem insults? Oh, I see it's just your pointless ad homnem debate. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:32pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

No, he is still a comedian. He is having a lend of all of you Islamophobes and making fun of your claims about Islam. ::)

Oh, dearie, dearie,me. Nothing to see here, just SW resorting to his tired old ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

ISLAM has proven itself to be at the heart of Islamic terrorism. Islam has had it's chance to prove itself otherwise and it hasn't.

We cannot tell toxic Mohammedans from nice Mohammedans until it is too late. I am not prepared to give Mohammedans the benefit of the doubt because there is NO doubt that Islam fuel murder..

So until Mohammedans start to demonstrate how to tell the difference between the good ones and the bad ones I will continue to judge them by that ABSENCE of self-differentiation.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

I wonder Soren, how you tell "toxic" Christians from nice Christians? How do you tell "toxic" Jews from nice Jews? How do you tell "toxic" Hindus from nice Hindus? How do you tell "toxic" Buddhists from nice Buddhists? And so on and so on?

Do you condemn everybody for being a potential "toxic" [insert religious name de jure]?

I'm interested to see how far your own toxic hatred of Muslims extends or is it just reserved, like a good Islamophobe's is, to only Muslims? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Oh, ye of such ignorance. We have had Christian, Jewish, Hindu Terrorism in Australia. Tsk, tsk, when you actually address society as it is and not as you imagine it to be, you may be able to make a point. We are not immune to the world's conflicts, Soren and it's time you really did figure that out, rather than just hating Muslims because they worship Allah. Really are an Islamophobe, you realise? Seek help. You need it. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Oh, ye of such ignorance. We have had Christian, Jewish, Hindu Terrorism in Australia.

When? On what scale? For what purpose? Was it the same in all other Western countries? When did it stop?

You are an idiot, a spineless idiot, Bwian.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:40pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Oh, ye of such ignorance. We have had Christian, Jewish, Hindu Terrorism in Australia.

When? On what scale? For what purpose? Was it the same in all other Western countries? When did it stop?

You are an idiot, a spineless idiot, Bwian.

Look it up yourself, Soren. Don't ask me to do your own research. Of course, you won't. Why? 'cause to do so is discover how little Islamic Terrorism we have suffered in Australia, compared to Christian/Jewish/Hindu/etc. Terrorism. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Oh, ye of such ignorance. We have had Christian, Jewish, Hindu Terrorism in Australia.

When? On what scale? For what purpose? Was it the same in all other Western countries? When did it stop?

You are an idiot, a spineless idiot, Bwian.

Not for their want of trying.

Islamic terrorism is perpetual and world-wide with a world-wide aim and world-wide justification: it is not about local issues, locally defined, locally resolved. No.. it is always about Muslim 'self-defence' against the infidels and apostates everywhere. That's why they target and kill girls at a concert, people on a beach or a market, school children in a school, a police employee on the street, office workers in high-rise buildings, commuters on trains and buses - all those people were enemies of Allah. That's all you need to be to be targeted.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Yes bwian come on don't be shy or disingenuous... lets see you factually list those terrorists and their acts eh.
Puhlease bwian, no more blowing smoke out your proverbial eh. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Oh, ye of such ignorance. We have had Christian, Jewish, Hindu Terrorism in Australia.

When? On what scale? For what purpose? Was it the same in all other Western countries? When did it stop?

You are an idiot, a spineless idiot, Bwian.

Ah, OK, I'll take that as an admission on your part that I was correct - non-Islamic Terrorism has been a greater danger to Australians than Islamic Terrorism. Thank you, Soren. You just prove how far you are motivated by Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by moses on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 4:15pm

The Australian Government web site tells us.

Australian National Security listed terrorist groups

1. Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

2. Al-Murabitun

3. Al-Qa'ida (AQ)

4. Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

5. Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)

6. Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)

7. Al-Shabaab

8. Ansar al-Islam

9. Boko Haram

10. Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades

11. Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)

12. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan

13. Islamic State

14. Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)

15. Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)

16. Jabhat al-Nusra

17. Jaish-e-Mohammed

18. Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)

19. Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)

20. Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

21. Lashkar-e Jhangvi

22. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba

23. Palestinian Islamic Jihad

The muzzies seem to be pretty high on the database of listed terrorists by the Australian Government.

Yet the leftards prefer to wallow in the blood of innocent men women and children, rather than admit that islamic doctrine is a global threat right here/right now, the 21st century.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:02pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Easy. There is no Christian, Jewish or Hindu jihad in the West, Bwian. You must be really surprised.

Yes bwian come on don't be shy or disingenuous... lets see you factually list those terrorists and their acts eh.
Puhlease bwian, no more blowing smoke out your proverbial eh. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Do not take it like that. There has been no more Islamic terrorist attacks because of the great number that has been intercepted and stopped. And Islamic terror is a far greater threat to Australia and most other Western countries than any other kind of ideologically motivated world-wide campaign - because there isn't any other and because Islamic terrorism has proved itself to be by far the bloodies, most gruesome and barbaric. And it's perpetrators are people the West has given shelter to.

Don't gloat about how stupid you are Bwian.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

What did I get wrong, Auntie Bwian? Do tell us.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

What did I get wrong, Auntie Bwian? Do tell us.

Read back, Soren. It's most illuminating what was said here. Your attempt to hide it by editing, hasn't worked. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

tsk, tsk, tsk bwian, oh dearie dearie me... you don't have to keep proving what a lying hypocrite you are... we all know already. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 10:21am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

What did I get wrong, Auntie Bwian? Do tell us.

Read back, Soren. It's most illuminating what was said here. Your attempt to hide it by editing, hasn't worked. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

You have not decoupled islam from the jihad we have been seeing for a few decades now, Brian.
When you show us the difference in what muslims believe, you may have a point. Until then my case stands. You cant tell muslims from muslims until one of them acts out his beliefs. Thats the only difference - some act out their beliefs, others don't.

But they all believe in the same islam, the same unalterable koran, the same warlord mohammed.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 11:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Respected until it's too late?

"For me there weren’t any signs that I could see”

Herzberg’s hairdresser speaks about the knife attack by her Syrian employee

Herzberg’s master hairdresser talks about what is motivating her these days since the attack by her Syrian employee two weeks ago.

Should she have seen this attack against her coming? She keeps asking herself this question over and over. And she can’t find an answer. “Even today, I do not know what I should think. Until that Wednesday evening, he was an endearing man. I believed up to the very last minute that something good could come of him because I appreciated his professional abilities very much,” Ilona F. says.

The Herzberg woman doesn’t want to talk about the attack itself; her thoughts are much more circling around ‘why’ again and again. “Did I intervene too much? Was I too strong for him? Did we, my husband and I, organize too much for him?” These and other thoughts are constantly crossing her mind. But there weren’t any signs that the Damascus-born Syrian maybe had other plans. His mother, which whom Ilona F. was in contact, had repeatedly written how grateful her son was for the chance that he received and how much he had respected the “she-boss”. “He even assured my husband and me personally of this.”

Yet still, something had to have happened to him that made him commit this terrible bloody deed. “For me, there were no signs that something like this could happen,” the 64-year-old says, looking back. But, she admits, he had changed considerably in the past few months. Ilona F. explains: “We had invested a lot of time in him after our spectacular beginnings, and we had helped him in every way possible. We had plans. He is an outstanding hairdresser. The customers were super-happy with his work. Until the very last minute I had believed that things were going to work.”

http://www.lr-online.de/regionen/elbe-elster/herzberg/Es-gab-fuer-mich-keine-Anzeichen;art1056,6087875

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:09pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 10:21am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing of interest here, just poor ol' Soren's usual ad hominem arguments. Tsk, tsk. Shame he always resorts to that rather than admit that he got it wrong. ::)

What did I get wrong, Auntie Bwian? Do tell us.

Read back, Soren. It's most illuminating what was said here. Your attempt to hide it by editing, hasn't worked. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

You have not decoupled islam from the jihad we have been seeing for a few decades now, Brian.

You have not decoupled Christianity from the Christian Terrorism we have seen inflicted on innocent people for centuries, Soren. Tsk, tsk. You have not decoupled Hinduism from the Hindu Terrorism we have seen inflicted on people for the last 100+ years. Nor Buddhism from the Buddhist Terrorism and so on and so on.

Get back to us when you've managed that, OK?

In reality, all religious teachings are open to interpretation, Soren. Islam, Christianity, etc. It is the interpretation that the reader places on the words they read that enables them to distort and use them to provide inspiration and cover for their acts of brutality and cruelty.

When you realise that the overwhelming majority of peaceful, law-abiding, assimilated Muslims are just as much the enemy of the minority of Islamist Terrorists, as you are, Soren, you might learn to accept them as your fellow Australians. Tolerance and decency are what guide civilised peoples. It's a shame you've either never learnt them or have decided to discard them in favour of hatred, intolerance and bigotry. You'll never be a true Australian. You'd be better off going home to Denmark where your qualities are tolerated, it seems. Or are they? Tsk, tsk. Oh, and when you reread your own words and you acknowledge your failure to make a point, we might start having a discussion, instead of your usual resorting to Islamophobia and ad hominem argument. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:09pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

In any case, Christianity has been decoupled from power by the very real and lasting separation of Church and State. Muslims should do the same but cannot because of Mohammed.

As for Hindus, I am not aware of a Hindu jihad across the West. Are you?

And I do not want to tolerate jihadis and their belief system, no matter how often you try to make it out as if that was the decent thing to do. That is the stupid thing to do. I do not tolerate totalitarians, be they Islamic, Communist, Nazi or the PC thought police like you.

There is no 'radical' Islam and 'moderate' Islam. There is Islam and Muslims who accept and enanct it entirely and Muslims who may accept it but do not enact it. They are not reforming it, they are not changing it - they just do not enact it to the letter.

But the doctrine, the book, the unalterable final word of Allah is one.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:04pm

ROTFLMAO.... bwian has been around for centuries now... oh dear... no longer just a Dr of Divinity he's actually become Divine.
Come on bwian fair shake of the Rudd sauce bottle eh.
That list you keep avoiding to provide is not helping your credibility is it?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

Yes, so? Until you understand the historical events which have led to why people choose noe, today, to commit Terrorism, you'll never prevent it from occuring, Soren. History is what makes us, us. History is one second ago. The events of yesterday, last week, last month, last year, a decade ago, a century ago are what drive people like this, like you. Time you woke up to yourself, Soren. Tsk, tsk. History betrays nearly everything you claim about Islam and Muslims. It provides other examples, other events which overturn your claims about Islam being unique. ::)

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In any case, Christianity has been decoupled from power by the very real and lasting separation of Church and State. Muslims should do the same but cannot because of Mohammed.

Soren, Soren, the separation of Church and State is a fantasy inside your head. The Church still controls the minds of many, many people who are politicians. "Give me a child until the age of seven and I will then give you the man," suggested Aristotle. Ignatius of Loyola, he who founded the Society of Jesus - the Jesuits, repeated that phrase. Most religions nowadays teach children the basis tenants of their religious beliefs. Some continue to obey them. Just look at the relationship between Tone Rabbit and his confessor, George Pell and the issue of RU486. In the US, the division is even weaker with religion controlling the thinking of many, many legislators. Tsk, tsk, fouled again by history, hey, Soren? ::)

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As for Hindus, I am not aware of a Hindu jihad across the West. Are you?

There is a Hindu "Jihad" against Muslims, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

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And I do not want to tolerate jihadis and their belief system, no matter how often you try to make it out as if that was the decent thing to do. That is the stupid thing to do. I do not tolerate totalitarians, be they Islamic, Communist, Nazi or the PC thought police like you.

But you'll tolerate the Christian Crusade against Islam, now won't, you, Soren? You tolerate the Nazi Jihad against the Jews, the Romany, Gays, etc. Tsk, tsk, history once more trips you up... ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

Islam has been violent from the very beginning and has never been anything else. And as long as Muslims accept the Koran and Mohammed, it will always remain a violent ideology.

That's history for you.

There is no 'historic' justification for bombing a Manchester concert or driving trucks into crowds celebrating or shopping or just going about their business. There is no historic explanation for Islamic jihad in the West by people who have been taken in and given a chance for a decent life.
But there are plenty of Islamic justifications for all these events.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

There is a Hindu "Jihad" against Muslims, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Where?

Don't tell me - in India. Which the Muslims invaded.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

But you'll tolerate the Christian Crusade against Islam, now won't, you, Soren?

Has it started already?

Quote:

You tolerate the Nazi Jihad against the Jews, the Romany, Gays, etc. Tsk, tsk, history once more trips you up... ::)

Do I? The Nazis were defeated long before i was born, you silly old aunt.

There is a Muslim jihad against all those people, especially the jews and Chrisstians.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

No, that is your (mistaken) interpretation of history. ::)

Quote:

There is no 'historic' justification for bombing a Manchester concert or driving trucks into crowds celebrating or shopping or just going about their business. There is no historic explanation for Islamic jihad in the West by people who have been taken in and given a chance for a decent life.

Could not agree more. Just as there is no justification for the use of Weapons of Massed Destruction, land mines, machine guns, etc., etc., yet it was Christians who invented those things and used them, repeatedly against each other and anybody else who stood in their way, Soren. ::)

Quote:

But there are plenty of Islamic justifications for all these events.

And Christian justifications for similar events, Soren. What is your excuse for them, I wonder? Hmmmm? ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

There is a Hindu "Jihad" against Muslims, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Where?

Don't tell me - in India. Which the Muslims invaded.

Yep but guess what, the Muslims who end up dead are Indians. Islam is a religion that exists in India and will continue to exist there. There are over 172 million Muslims there. They aren't going to disappear overnight. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

But you'll tolerate the Christian Crusade against Islam, now won't, you, Soren?

Has it started already?

Yes. Forgotten the Christian invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq already, Soren? Tsk, tsk. history trips you up again, hey? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

[quote] You tolerate the Nazi Jihad against the Jews, the Romany, Gays, etc. Tsk, tsk, history once more trips you up... ::)

Do I? The Nazis were defeated long before i was born, you silly old aunt.
[/quote]

I've never seen you once criticise the Nazis for the Holocaust, Soren. Tsk, tsk, what was it your daddy did again? Sweep the floors? ::)

Quote:

There is a Muslim jihad against all those people, especially the jews and Chrisstians.

There is a Jihad by some Muslims, not all Muslims, Soren. Using your logic, my description of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq as a "crusade" is perfectly correct. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 7:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

But you'll tolerate the Christian Crusade against Islam, now won't, you, Soren?

Has it started already?

Yes. Forgotten the Christian invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq already, Soren? Tsk, tsk. history trips you up again, hey? Tsk, tsk. ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D

You stupid bloody mujahadeen, you!!! Listen to you! "Christian invasion"!!!!

Low contempt for you is correct.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 8:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

Bwian's response....Yes, so?

Oh dear.....

You are wasting your time here Frank. He's simply a TROLL.
He's a Useful Idiot in the employ of Islamic terrorists. A spineless apologist. You name it that's bwian.
He spends most of his time posting YAWNS and ridiculing those who disagree with him, why he keeps coming back here is beyond me... he can't debate and refuses to. :D :D :D
IS have claimed the Brighton murderer... they used the term Crusaders and Crusader Australians many times in their propaganda piece.
These people are mrons... these are the people bwian claims we should waste our time on learning about their grievances.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hey bwian you are a Useful Idiot for the mentally deficient.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 8:47pm

Bwian is a useless idiot. He is the best that Islam can muster in its defence. Him and gandalf and kameel and mothra.

Keep them talking. That's how Islam will be defeated, by people like those. Keep them talking.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 6:03pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 8:47pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Its just Soren with his usual ad hominem attacks. Tsk. tsk, I wonder why he bothers, I really do. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

But you'll tolerate the Christian Crusade against Islam, now won't, you, Soren?

Has it started already?

Yes. Forgotten the Christian invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq already, Soren? Tsk, tsk. history trips you up again, hey? Tsk, tsk. ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D

You stupid bloody mujahadeen, you!!! Listen to you! "Christian invasion"!!!!

Low contempt for you is correct.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Just more of Soren's ad hominem attacks. Tsk, tsk, I wonder why he bothers? I really do. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:42pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Islamic terrorism is happening NOW, Brian, it's actually happening!!!! This is not about history, it's about what's happening NOW.

Bwian's response....Yes, so?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

I was in Europe when first discovered this site and this particular inane thread as posted by an over inflated egotistical self serving individual. He is, without doubt the most pompous person ever to be given access to a keyboard let alone the Internet. Bragging about his scholastic achievement whilst actively and wilfully denigrating other members posts because they dare to disagree with his erroneous and most dangerous viewpoint.

With the above in mind I tell the muslim, 105 people have been killed in Pakistan since you Brian Ross first printed this ridiculous fatwa, why dont you crawl back to your local mosque, or float there on your over inflated image.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Trying waaaaay too hard there, 'Newbie.'

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Gordon on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Trying waaaaay too hard there, 'Newbie.'

He probably had a hover car, or is he AiA?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Trying waaaaay too hard there, 'Newbie.'

Wanna look at my passport passes frogspawn?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:52pm

Sure....why not?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Sure....why not?

Never been out of OZ have ya backwater frogspawn!

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:57pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Sure....why not?

Never been out of OZ have ya backwater frogspawn!

What happened to "Wanna look at my passport passes."

Given you offered ~ Let's see them.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:59pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Sure....why not?

Never been out of OZ have ya backwater frogspawn!

What happened to "Wanna look at my passport passes."

Given you offered ~ Let's see them.

U wanna scan um frogspawn?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:02pm

Given you offered ~ Let's see them.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:02pm:

Given you offered ~ Let's see them.

Tell me how smarty

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:04pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:02pm:

Given you offered ~ Let's see them.

Tell me how smarty

So NOW do you want to scan them?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:05pm

Oh, you take pics of them and post the pics.

Quote:

Wanna look at my passport passes frogspawn?

Sure.....let's see them.

Surely you did not make the offer if you did not have the means to show us so we could look, did you?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Oh, you take pics of them and post the pics.

Quote:

Wanna look at my passport passes frogspawn?

Sure.....let's see them.

Surely you did not make the offer if you did not have the means to show us so we could look, did you?

Site Rules on Posting springs to mind Frogspawn. Do you wish to scan them if not just say so please as u are becoming a pain!

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:11pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

I can't find that Thread. Link please.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mattywish on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Trying waaaaay too hard there, 'Newbie.'

What have you got against newbies, Arsey? I think Justsayno makes some good points. Have you thought of listening to what he has to say rather than just bullying him?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:13pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Oh, you take pics of them and post the pics.

Quote:

Wanna look at my passport passes frogspawn?

Sure.....let's see them.

Surely you did not make the offer if you did not have the means to show us so we could look, did you?

Site Rules on Posting springs to mind Frogspawn. Do you wish to scan them if not just say so please as u are becoming a pain!

There is no Site rule standing in your way. You offered, I accepted......show us. I just want to see you stump up proof of your claim, as offered by you. Have no other interest.

Come on, show us.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:11pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

I can't find that Thread. Link please.

Link to what moron on posting scans photos and live links or what tfe?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:22pm

I am not allowed, for some reason to post live links until I have posted 100 times!

You have posted 30000 Times you should know the rules by now!

Do you wish pay to scan my passport?

If not STFU!

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:34pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

You could simply have said that the thing you quoted is a live link in the Opening Post of THIS Thread.

8-)

Sure, I'll pay for the scan. What will the cost be...about $1.00?

I've been looking and damned if I can see any Post made by Mr Smith in this Thread concerning "Bragging about his scholastic achievement."

Newbie, hey?

Of course you are.

::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mattywish on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:36pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:22pm:

I am not allowed, for some reason to post live links until I have posted 100 times!

You have posted 30000 Times you should know the rules by now!

Do you wish pay to scan my passport?

If not STFU!

You've got him, Justsayno. He's not getting off the hook this time.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:37pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

I am going to Bed now Aussie, thankyou for being so amicable I only require 8 more penis heads like you and then I will have achieved 100 posts releasing me from the stupidity of site rules.

When that happens remind me to prove I was out of AUS from about 7th June to about 16 July visiting UK Switzerland and Italy, so sad to know you have never been abroad.

Hoo Roo and Round the Ridges.

Dont forget

Justsayno

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mattywish on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:42pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

White flag accepted, Arsey.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Aussie on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:43pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

Oh no!!!! What a crying shame. And just when you 'got' me according to the other "Newbie" of today.

;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mattywish on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:27pm

If the moderators were doing their job, you'd get banned for bullying the newbies, Arsie.

At least you've had your arse handed to you by Justsayno. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Grendel on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:30pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

The Forum link to this Thread you said you read when you were overseas.....and when you learned all those things about Mr Ross.

Quote:

"Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram"

Come on. Time for some proof.

::)

LOL
Unanimous
haram

Well that's a load of bullsh.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:12pm

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, another Islamophobe who sees me as a Muslim. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I don't know why they bother. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:12pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, another Islamophobe who sees me as a Muslim. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I don't know why they bother. ::)

Why do YOU bother posting this same shite all the time? We know you are stupid and can't say anything intelligent or interesting or coherent - so why are you bothering with reinforcing it so often?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 11:41pm

Frank wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:12pm:

Justsayno wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, another Islamophobe who sees me as a Muslim. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I don't know why they bother. ::)

Why do YOU bother posting this same shite all the time? We know you are stupid and can't say anything intelligent or interesting or coherent - so why are you bothering with reinforcing it so often?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Just Soren with his usual ad hominem insults. I wonder if he can actually debate an issue with out them? No, I don't think so. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Moriaty on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 12:06am

Mattywish wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 11:27pm:

If the moderators were doing their job, you'd get banned for bullying the newbies, Arsie.

At least you've had your arse handed to you by Justsayno. ;D ;D ;D

Handed to him? I'd say the newbie served it up in a style that would win MasterChef, MyKitchenRules and TheBlock!

Suck on that Arsey... :D ;D

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Justsayno on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 9:41am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

You have a bit of explaining to do BS, as they seem to take no notice of your religions fatwa.

Suicide bomb at Pakistan shrine kills 18

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/10/06/suicide-bomb-pakistan-shrine-kills-18

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 4:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

And who is this binding for, exactly?

Who do these scholars have authority over? Recognised where?

::) ::) tsk, stk, Bwian.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Secret Wars on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 4:57pm

Frank wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

And who is this binding for, exactly?

Who do these scholars have authority over? Recognised where?

::) ::) tsk, stk, Bwian.

Islam is not a monolith. Which apologist regularly trots out that when attempting some deflection, diminishing and apologism for the latest Islamic inspired blood fest?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Frank on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 6:23pm

Secret Wars wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 4:57pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:28am:

Muslim Religious scholars issue unanimous fatwa declaring suicide attacks Haram

And who is this binding for, exactly?

Who do these scholars have authority over? Recognised where?

::) ::) tsk, stk, Bwian.

Islam is not a monolith. Which apologist regularly trots out that when attempting some deflection, diminishing and apologism for the latest Islamic inspired blood fest?

Indeed.

Elsewhere in the news:

Turkey’s top religious body ‘issues fatwa on hair dye’

Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has issued a fatwa declaring that women are forbidden to ride bicycles in public, Iran Students News Agency (ISNA) reported on November 26.

Australia's most powerful English-speaking Islamic sheikh has declared it sinful for a Muslim man to look at women.

Everyone can see just what a massive difference Muslim scholars and their utterances make in the world. Force for good, Muslims scholars.

Tsk, tsk and ::) ::). Oh, yes. Isn't it, Bwian??

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

Which is? The Islamophobes or the Muslims?

Islamophobes appear to fit your description a great deal better than the Muslims. Islamophobes appear to have a universal, "totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement," than Muslims who seem to have widely divergent views on their religion and it's beliefs.

What you must be careful of, is not believing what the Extremists state as what all Muslims believe. It's something the Islamophobes prefer to believe because it suits their Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Islamophobes appear to fit your description a great deal better than the Muslims. Islamophobes appear to have a universal, "otalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement," than Muslims who seem to have widely divergent views on their religion and it's beliefs.

What you must be careful of, is not believing what the Extremists state as what all Muslims believe.

It's something the Islamophobes prefer to believe because it suits their Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::)

brian,

Q.
Have you ever defined here in OzPol, what it is, 'what all Muslims believe' ?

What do all moslems believe brian ?

Q.
Do all moslems revere the life of Mohammed ?

Q.
Do all moslems revere Allah, and the commands which define Him ?

Q.
Do all moslems revere the Koran, and the contents of the Koran, which defines 'the message' which the Koran contains ?

So tell us brian, what do all moslems believe, in common ?

There must be some 'commonality' of ideal, which defines the use, of the name, 'moslem',
as the self identifier which is used, by so many ~~people~~ moslems ?

.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."

By definition, every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

And every moslem is a supporter of what ISLAMIC law endorses, promotes, encourages,
and every moslem is a supporter of the prohibition, what ISLAMIC law prohibits.

e.g.
It is not lawful for any moslem, to have any familial association [i.e. to live in the same house] with relatives, if they are disbelievers....

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by AugCaesarustus on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

I was referring to the ideology of the so-called ISIS, and their ilk.

Regarding Islamophobes, they may be as intolerant as ISIS intellectually, but they're going around murdering people, as far as I know. And if they are, then that's clearly unacceptable.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by freediver on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Yadda on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm

Auggie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

Regarding Islamophobes, they may be as intolerant as ISIS intellectually, but

they're going around murdering people, as far as I know.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

How do YOU feel about that?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Oh dear.....Hitler is back.

And his anti Semitic OzPol nic is Karnal.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

No one here is cowered.

That's just your perverted/inverted/subverted view.

So how long have you been anti Semitic Karnal?

How did you embark on this anti Semitic journey/quest of yours?

I'd love to know.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:28pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

The next question is why you use the racist-brush to tar people for daring to ask why FD refuses to speak out against his race-enemy.

Is it to silence decent white people everywhere?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:31pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

The next question is why you use the racist-brush to tar people for daring to ask why FD refuses to speak out against his race-enemy.

Is it to silence decent white people everywhere?

You keep deflecting Karnal.

Why can't you answer anything asked of you?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Oh dear.....Hitler is back.

And his anti Semitic OzPol nic is Karnal.

You are anti Semitic...Karnal.

It's taken you some time to come clean.

You must surely feel better now. Yes?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

The next question is why you use the racist-brush to tar people for daring to ask why FD refuses to speak out against his race-enemy.

Is it to silence decent white people everywhere?

You keep deflecting Karnal.

Why can't you answer anything asked of you?

Don't want to say, eh?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:34pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Oh dear.....Hitler is back.

And his anti Semitic OzPol nic is Karnal.

You are anti Semitic...Karnal.

It's taken you some time to come clean.

You must surely feel better now. Yes?

Aren't you a Greek?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:39pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

Why are you so fixated on Jews?

The question here is why is FD too cowered to put up a squeak.

How about you?

The next question is why you use the racist-brush to tar people for daring to ask why FD refuses to speak out against his race-enemy.

Is it to silence decent white people everywhere?

You keep deflecting Karnal.

Why can't you answer anything asked of you?

Don't want to say, eh?

Oh unlike you....I have nothing to hide Karnal.

You on the other hand.....

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:39pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

You can't have a US government without Jews babe. As long as they don't meddle I don't care. Have you ever wondered why all these wars at the moment are Jewish enemies babe?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Gordon on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:40pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

Do you blame the Jews for all the worlds problems?

Title: Karnal finally comes clean..he's Anti Semitic!
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:42pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Oh dear.....Hitler is back.

And his anti Semitic OzPol nic is Karnal.

You are anti Semitic...Karnal.

It's taken you some time to come clean.

You must surely feel better now. Yes?

Aren't you a Greek?

I'm Australian. An Australian woman of European descent.

You're just a rabid anti Semitic gutless wonder.

And I find you and your ilk very dangerous.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:46pm

You're a Greek. You know as well as I do you people shouldn't be here. Herb agrees.

You don't belong with us. Find your own Demos.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:50pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

Do you blame the Jews for all the worlds problems?

We blame the race-traitors and apologists. It's not your fault you're devious and cunning.

Generations of scared, weak white people let you people take over the pond. Homo knows what I mean.

We're yet to see FD take a stand.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

You can't have a US government without Jews babe. As long as they don't meddle I don't care. Have you ever wondered why all these wars at the moment are Jewish enemies babe?

You're right, I didn't think of that.

We're waking up alright, Homo.

Ever wondered that, FD?

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:56pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Most people are mushrooms. They don't know what's going on. It it's not their fault really. Us smart people will enlighten them in time. More people are waking up though. Trump got in hey?

Trump's cabinet is staffed with Goldman Sachs executives and globalist race-traitors. He married his only daughter into a family of billionaire Manhattan Jews.

We're waking up alright.

You can't have a US government without Jews babe. As long as they don't meddle I don't care. Have you ever wondered why all these wars at the moment are Jewish enemies babe?

You're right, I didn't think of that.

We're waking up alright, Homo.

Ever wondered that, FD?

Well it's true. Look it up. Don't you remember Saddam scudding Tel Aviv?

Title: Re: Karnal finally comes clean..he's Anti Semitic!
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:56pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Dec 5^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

This is just nothing more than a totalitarian, tribal, fascist, militant movement.

So Islamophobes are a monolith, and Muslims are a diverse group?

Is Islam the only religion you have no right or ability to criticise?

We'll put that one to you, FD. Do you have a right or ability to criticise the Jews?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

How do you feel about the 2 scumbags planning to blow up 10 Downing t and then stabbing the UK pm babe?

Terrible. How do you feel about Mr Trump's daughter marrying a Jew?

Don't care.

Oh, yes you do. How do you feel about people being too scared to criticize the Jew?

No I don't. I'm aloud to criticise meddling powerful Jews trying to get back at whitie for the holocaust and racially wipe them off the face of the earth so it doesn't happen again.

Right on. And how do you feel about spineless race traitors who refuse to stick up for their own people and take their countries back from the Globalist Jew?

Oh dear.....Hitler is back.

And his anti Semitic OzPol nic is Karnal.

You are anti Semitic...Karnal.

It's taken you some time to come clean.

You must surely feel better now. Yes?

Aren't you a Greek?

I'm Australian. An Australian woman of European descent.

You're just a rabid anti Semitic gutless wonder.

And I find you and your ilk very dangerous.

Title: Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Post by Karnal on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:59pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2017 at 9:56pm: