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Title: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 27th, 2017 at 2:59pm
Just when didnt think it couldnt get worse, news comes out that Jared Kushner has been recorded along with Michael Flynn trying to arrange a secret back channel to the Kremlin using, wait for it... RUSSIAN EMBASSY SECURE COMMUNICATIONS.
He lied on his security clearance which gives him up to 5 years jail, but what is worse is that the entire reason for this backchannel was to avoid US intelligence agencies. Treason? Hard to deny it. So its jail for Flynn. Jail for Kusher, both of whom have such closes ties to Trump that Trump had to know and therefore... jail for Trump. Somewhere, Nixon is smiling. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 27th, 2017 at 4:40pm
Yes, but should Jared Kushner be stood down until he is cleared by the FBI?
The Light won't say. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Unforgiven on May 27th, 2017 at 5:20pm
The smell from Trump and his family gets more pungent every day.
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 28th, 2017 at 12:21pm longweekend58 wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
I see you're LYING AGAIN without corroboration ...... Shame on you......LW58???? Boy, ya never learn do ya...... Espionage................... maybe 1 or 2 chances in a million there............ but.....but......but..... Treason???.....Riiiiiigggghhht!! :D :D ;D ;D ;D You don't even know the law on Treason, do ya!?? ::) |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 28th, 2017 at 12:54pm
Not treason, Panther, but Kushner declined to disclose these contacts on his security clearance - a federal change if the FBI want to prosecute him for it.
But that's nothing. The question here is why. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 28th, 2017 at 1:21pm Big Donger wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Thank you.....treason was never the issue anyway.........except in LongWanker58's mind that is.... ;D Now, as far as why?..........I don't know, & we may never know......The 5th Amendment to the US Constitution would afford them from saying anything that might incriminate themselves......they don't even need ot say anything at the trial, the can completely avoid taking the stand.....which would then require the government to prove any allegations beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of 12 of their peers.....The judge just makes sure the defendants get a fair trial, & offer the jury a reading of the law if the jury asks him for it.....otherwise the judge is just sort of a "guide" to the event.....he/she doesn't vote, or make a verdict... Needing but one (1) juror to disagree, unless the case is so overwhelming, they probably won't get anywhere close to a guilty verdict. ;) Like I said, one juror disagrees.....they (the defendant(s)) are scot-free with no penalty whatsoever.....& the loser pays all court costs, so they might just have to pony-up for their lawyer(s)....sometimes not even that.... |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 28th, 2017 at 1:39pm
Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 28th, 2017 at 1:41pm Big Donger wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 28th, 2017 at 1:58pm Panther wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Remember Bill Clinton? All it took was one rogue prosecutor to take a minor charge to court. No, I'm wondering why you're distracting with legal processes. Do you not want to know the truth about these crimes? |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 28th, 2017 at 2:09pm Big Donger wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
What crimes????....Nobody has been legally charged with anything, have they? Until there has been charges made, there isn't anything but wishful thinking, blind accusations, allegations, & partisan speculation............like what the Pecca used to do.....Crimes??....nowhere close.... ;) |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 9:43am
Panther gets very defensive at an almost ridiculous level. Kushner's acts clearly mean he should lose his clearance and be charged for lying on his form. THEN the motive for this is even worse where espionage or treason a credible consideration.
Panther is going to have a meltdown when dozens of Trump associates end up in jail including possibly Trump himself. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 9:58am Panther wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
You are wrong. The special prosecutor can lay charges as can many other attorneys. Get used to it. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 29th, 2017 at 9:59am longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 9:43am:
There's no way they'll end up in jail, Longy. This is the Establishment. They have the game sewn up. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 12:24pm longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 9:58am:
Really... ...got any imaginary links to your fertile imagination?? If you ever verified your imagination & done some fact checking....not at the Federal Level when dealing with the Administrative Branch.....check it out, & you'll be surprised..... ;) Also, feel free to substantiate your false assertions with 1st party corroboration......unless you have none & are LYING like usual.... |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by bwood1946 on May 29th, 2017 at 12:30pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
Poor longeys dribbling shyte AGAIN ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 12:34pm bwood1946 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
Yeah.....haven't you noticed.....his mouth & his asshole are interchangeable!!! He's a compulsive liar......sh!t flows from both ends! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Marla on May 29th, 2017 at 12:36pm
Shut the bugger up, Panther.
One thing is for certain; back in December of 2016 Nepto-douchebag boy Kushner met with Sergei Gorkov, the head of the Russian bank Vnesheconombank which has been under US sanctions since 2014. That meeting alone points to the completely corrupt character of the Trump presidency, does it not? This whole god damn criminality that perverses Wall Street right into the White House doesn't surprise me. All the Grumpy Trumpy sycophants are attempting to describe the the meeting as routine and inconsequential and douchesnots like you believe them as the bank described it as a “negotiation” about “promising business lines and sectors.” As for Jamie Gorlick. She was one of the committee members on the 911 cover-up commission. She is also an old rat bag from the Clinton administration. She is a very deep state player and a very dangerous criminal. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 12:38pm Marla wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Marla on May 29th, 2017 at 12:39pm
Ghey.
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 12:57pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
hey boofhead... your understanding of criminal law is pitiful. Do you think if a trumpoid breaks a law in a particular state that he wont be charged? But I do like how you think that because Sessions is there that he would block prosecution no matter what. Somehow, you are okay with that which says a lot about your own morality and integrity - or the lack thereof. The special prosecutor can lay charges and the DoJ dare not intervene. If they did, then impeachment for Sessions could also occur. 'Checks and Balances' are working hard to protect the country against Agent Orange and his horde of corrupt minions. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 2:06pm longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 12:57pm:
Once again turkey........no corroborating evidence to substantiate your piss poor 'claims'..... You spout your verbal diarrhea to such extent in hopes of overwhelming the uninformed, but those days are gone LIAR.....you are the one that needs to prove your statements...which you refuse to do because you can't........shouldn't be difficult, that is....unless they're fabricated lies directly from your fertile imagination.......which they are. You're outmatched boy.......get used to it... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 3:53pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
you seem immune to the massive piles of mounting evidence. So the end - when it comes - will be quite a shock to you. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Honky on May 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm
Looks like panthers got you all figured out too.
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 5:27pm ... wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm:
that clown couldnt figure out 1+1. he has blow-up dolls with Supreme Court Justice cut out faces on them. You are no better. You are just an idiot. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 6:09pm longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 6:20pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
thats the best you can do? simpleton... |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 6:53pm longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
What, you think you deserve more??....I won't be sucked into one of your left-wing, petty pissing contests........I'd rather ignore you.....For now that will suffice....you're not worth any more of my time... |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 6:56pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
your idea of 'no proof' is fascinating. Kushner has NOT said the stoyr is false. The actions he took scream espionage or worse. At the very least he PROVABLY lied on his security clearance form and is now subject to criminal prosecution. go ahead... tell me how none of that is true. idiot |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Panther on May 29th, 2017 at 7:06pm longweekend58 wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
I see no proof.....you've posted nothing but empty statements.....nothing to corroborate your allegations.....without which, it's no better than a lie......Where's your proof? He's laughing at you & the rest of the left's empty statements.....you have nothing that would stand up in court....you're a joke.... |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 29th, 2017 at 7:45pm Panther wrote on May 29th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
like i said.... you dont understand 'proof'. The information comes from INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES who were tapping the phones of the russians. but naturally, you dont think that is true because you havent heard them and naturally, everyone is lying according to you. you are a joke, but your beloved Trump and co will soon be the byword for treason that Benedict Arnold currently is. the truth is going to be pretty hard for you to swallow |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Karnal on May 29th, 2017 at 8:39pm
Panther doesn't usually swallow, Longy, but he'll make an exception for Mr Trump.
Miam miam. |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by Bojack Horseman on May 31st, 2017 at 2:58pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibGtkC7QlIk
Will put this here |
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Title: Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Post by longweekend58 on May 31st, 2017 at 6:54pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 2:58pm:
that was freaking amazing!!! brilliant! |
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