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Polls closed 5 minutes ago. So we shall see.

Yes. let's find out how smacking balls to the wall insane America has become and God Help Us (TM) that Montana gets to be a proving ground.

The most disgusting thing about the montana GOP guy beating up a reporter and being charged for it is the absence of GOP criticism. Her in australia, the candidate would be dumped almost immediately by either major party. One Nation would be fine with it - which confirms by belief about extreme-right parties.

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so you think that beating up a reporter is okay? You think that his own party should not criticise it?

Problem with this election is the estimate of 2/3 of the state had already voted by absentee ballot before the 'roid rage Rethugicon demonstrated how sick and toxic he truly is.

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so you think that beating up a reporter is okay? You think that his own party should not criticise it?

Storm in a tea cup! And theres a few reporter here in Australia need knocking out!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Yes, excellent work from Gianforte.

These leftist dweebs have been warned for years now not to keep riding their luck.

They could have learned when they got routed at berkeley a month or so ago, but leftists don't learn, they just double down.

Oh well, this is progress.

https://youtu.be/fEwnEeIc224

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so you think that beating up a reporter is okay? You think that his own party should not criticise it?

Storm in a tea cup! And theres a few reporter here in Australia need knocking out!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

what a lovely person you are. I sorta hope someone beats the crap outta you so others can say you deserved it.

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so you think that beating up a reporter is okay? You think that his own party should not criticise it?

Storm in a tea cup! And theres a few reporter here in Australia need knocking out!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

what a lovely person you are. I sorta hope someone beats the crap outta you so others can say you deserved it.

Well there you go hypocrite wishing violence on someone DOUBLE STANDS NO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Yes, excellent work from Gianforte.

These leftist dweebs have been warned for years now not to keep riding their luck.

Good point, Honky. If journalists keep asking questions, they deserve everything they get.

How dare reporters ask questions in Trump America?
https://youtu.be/-dC2HvHhW5g

Big Donger wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Yes, excellent work from Gianforte.

These leftist dweebs have been warned for years now not to keep riding their luck.

Good point, Honky. If journalists keep asking questions, they deserve everything they get.

If politcians - one of the most subdued and measured profession on earth - are publicly beating you up, on the day before an election you need to have a long hard look at your behaviour.

Looks like it's paid off for Gianforte too.

You're a bigger buffoon than I originally thought.

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Big Donger wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Yes, excellent work from Gianforte.

These leftist dweebs have been warned for years now not to keep riding their luck.

Good point, Honky. If journalists keep asking questions, they deserve everything they get.

You gotta be kidding me!

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

bwood1946 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

F.FS longy you are getting more desprate every day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

so you think that beating up a reporter is okay? You think that his own party should not criticise it?

Only if it's Anderson Cooper, Jon Stewart, Steve Colbert, Louis Theroux, Rachel Maddow or Sandra Sully. (God damn you Sandra Sully).

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

Those Montananananananans must be redneck idiots.

Marla wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 12:05pm:

Polls closed 5 minutes ago. So we shall see.

Yes. let's find out how smacking balls to the wall insane America has become and God Help Us (TM) that Montana gets to be a proving ground.

If they don't vote the way Marlon wants.......

Aussie wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

Those Montananananananans must be redneck idiots.

Would it be acceptable to describe Obama voters as 'n.i.g.g.e.r idiots'?

Mr Hammer wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

Aussie wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

Those Montananananananans must be redneck idiots.

Would it be acceptable to describe Obama voters as 'n.i.g.g.e.r ~~idiots~~ lovers'?

And idiots.....

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Big Donger wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Yes, excellent work from Gianforte.

These leftist dweebs have been warned for years now not to keep riding their luck.

Good point, Honky. If journalists keep asking questions, they deserve everything they get.

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... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

my a small margin and with a huge swing against.

I repeat that I hope someone beats the crap out of you so you can do some soul searching from a hospital bed.

What, did the right win again ?

Mr Hammer wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

Aussie wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

Those Montananananananans must be redneck idiots.

Would it be acceptable to describe Obama voters as 'n.i.g.g.e.r idiots'?

Since when did you care about anything being 'acceptable?'

Seems the Dems can't take a trick. They are a party in decline.
Why? because they have allied themselves to the most radical & extreme elements and are out of tune with the American heartland.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:48pm:

What, did the right win again ?

so te only threads u appear in are ones where you dont have to answer questions about the massive scandals drowning trump?

coward

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

my a small margin and with a huge swing against.

I repeat that I hope someone beats the crap out of you so you can do some soul searching from a hospital bed.

Quote:

Greg Gianforte Rep. 50.8%
Rob Quist Dem. 43.4

What purpose did telling that lie serve? You just don't learn.

bogarde73 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 4:11pm:

Seems the Dems can't take a trick. They are a party in decline.
Why? because they have allied themselves to the most radical & extreme elements and are out of tune with the American heartland.

because they failed to win a safe red seat while gaining a huge swing to them? You really dont understand politics at all well, do you? Well, that's kinda what happens when you embrace racism as an alternative to thinking.

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

my a small margin and with a huge swing against.

I repeat that I hope someone beats the crap out of you so you can do some soul searching from a hospital bed.

Quote:

Greg Gianforte Rep. 50.8%
Rob Quist Dem. 43.4

What purpose did telling that lie serve? You just don't learn.

do you know what a SWING is, loser?

work it out.

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Gianforte won.

Let's just hope the leftist pencil neck does some soul searching before he gets himself hurt again. I wouldn't count on it though.

my a small margin and with a huge swing against.

I repeat that I hope someone beats the crap out of you so you can do some soul searching from a hospital bed.

Quote:

Greg Gianforte Rep. 50.8%
Rob Quist Dem. 43.4

What purpose did telling that lie serve? You just don't learn.

do you know what a SWING is, loser?

work it out.

I do.

And I also know you just make things up, and hope nobody checks them out.

You really need to stop lying and apologise.

What was the swing, Mr Pipes?

Why dont you ask longweekend who brought it up or do one of your advanced google searches?

I think it's becasue you don't actually care. And why would you? It's of no consequence.

The same way you faggots go on and on about "durr but hilawy won da populah vote", as if it mattered.

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Okay, I'll assume you have no idea, as usual.

Yeah that's nice, but you're still no closer to finding the answer to a question you apparently thought was worth asking.

Longweekend seemed pretty sure of himself when he brought it up. But then, he was also pretty confident when he spoke of the margin and that turned out to be just another lie.

Where is he to defend the statements he made up?

... wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

not bothering with a wanker like you whose sole reason to hate anyone is their RACE.

scumbag

Ahh he's just not bothering.

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but that excuse convinces me.

GOP Victory in Montana Means Dem Landslide in Next Elections?

Republicans' 7-point win in last night's Montana election is great news for Democrats
Winning narrowly in safe red seats is a bad sign.
Updated by Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesiasmatt@vox.com May 26, 2017, 6:23am EDT

Greg Gianforte’s 7 percentage point win in the Montana special election keeps a seat in Republican hands but fundamentally represents bad news for the GOP. The basic issue, as David Wasserman breaks down for the Cook Political Report, is that for prognostication purposes you don’t only want to know who wins or loses a special election — you want to know the margin.

Montana is considerably redder than the average congressional district. According to Wasserman’s calculations, in an election where Democrats got 50 percent of the two-party vote nationwide, you’d expect them to get just 39 percent in Montana. Quist scored 44 percent, and with the Libertarian pulling in 6 percent, his share of the two-party vote is more like 46.

Things aren’t as simple as saying that Rob Quist outperformed the 39 percent benchmark and therefore Democrats are on track to win — geography means Republicans can hold their majority with less than 50 percent of the vote. But the GOP underperformed badly in Montana, after a similar underperformance in the special election for Kansas’s Fourth Congressional District.

There are 120 Republican-held House seats that are more GOP-friendly than Montana’s at-large district. If Republicans are winning in places like Montana by just 7 percentage points, then they are in extreme peril of losing their House majority in November 2018.

Republican leaders have taken their party on a risky course, and they ought to strongly consider turning the ship around.
Republicans are counting on geography to win

The GOP’s House majority is safeguarded, first and foremost, by geography. Donald Trump lost the popular vote nationally by 2.1 percentage points but won the median House seat by 3.4 points. Or to look at it another way, despite garnering fewer votes than Clinton overall, Trump carried a plurality of the vote in 230 congressional seats against just 205 for Clinton.

A somewhat pointless debate tends to play out among operatives and political handicappers over how much we should characterize this geographical skew as a question of “gerrymandering” versus the allegedly natural “clustering” of Democratic voters in big cities. The reality is that whatever you call it, the lines are drawn in such a way that Republicans could easily hold the majority even if millions more people vote for Democratic candidates.

And that’s lucky for them. With Trump’s approval rating 15 points underwater, the policy agenda dominated by a deeply unpopular health care bill, and a steady drip of stories about Trump’s connections to Russia, the basic ingredients are in place for Republicans to take a drubbing.

Under the circumstances, the knowledge that geography has created safe redoubts that are significantly more Republican than the nation as a whole is what gives the GOP confidence that it can forge ahead with this path. To win by only 7 in Montana, a state that Trump won by 20 points, is a clear sign that seats Trump won by 4 or 5 points or more aren’t truly safe.
Out-of-power parties can localize cultural cues

The precise dynamics of the Quist-Gianforte race obviously aren’t going to play out in other districts. Nor is there particularly any need for them to when they are dozens of good pickup opportunities for Democrats in diverse Sunbelt suburbs.

But the Montana race demonstrates an important principle that does apply across the board — when your party doesn't control the White House, it’s relatively easy for candidates to customize their cultural self-presentation to local conditions. Quist’s policy positions are fundamentally not all that distinct from what Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton offered — a bit more left-wing on health care and a bit more right-wing on guns and energy issue — but his personality is very different. He’s a banjo-playing folk singer who’s all Montana and castigated his opponent as essentially a plutocratic carpetbagger from New Jersey.

You wouldn’t want to repeat that exact formula in districts across the country, but the ability to run a banjo player in banjo country and a 30-year-old documentary producer with a master’s degree from the London School of Economics in the suburbs of Atlanta is a powerful tool. Against it, the only thing the in-power party can hope for is a broadly popular incumbent president. And Republicans don’t have it.
The GOP should consider changing course

Right up until the morning of Election Day 2016, Washington Republicans were profoundly skeptical of Donald Trump. They saw him as unpopular, undisciplined, and unlikely to be an effective candidate or an effective president. Many Republicans in Congress even said they would refuse to vote for him.

When Trump unexpectedly won, that assessment pivoted rapidly even though he pulled it off with an underwhelming 46 percent of the vote against a candidate who herself had unusually weak approval numbers. Republicans lined up, in lockstep, around the propositions that there was no need for an independent inquiry into Russian hacking, no need for serious congressional oversight of Trump’s business conflicts of interest, and no need to push back against

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