Yes I guess you would call it the 'turn around of the Century' but I cannot help but make a comment on Trump's decision to sack F.B.I. Chief James Comey

I mean if Donald Trump went from calling James Comey as a brilliant leader of the F.B.I. to the position he now holds which is that Comey is a 'grandstander and a showboater' then I can change position according to what is current and relevant

It couldn't be could it...that Comey was zeroing in on the investigation on allegation of Russian interference in the Presidential election?

I admit to having been a first class supporter of Donald Trump. I did and I still believe that Trump has brought many brilliant ideas to the table

I do believe that Trump can and is turning America on its head. Something it sorely needed

However Donald Trump's enormous liability is his brazen lack of loyalty to anyone who in the slightest manner states a different point of view to 'the Donald'

This is exactly the thing that got Julius Caesar assassinated. The parallels are incredible. Caesar was great..Caesar had vision but Caesar loved the Genie of power above all and in the end it was that unquenchable lust for power that brought about his downfall

The alarm bells started ringing loud and clear with his unbelievable lack of manners when hosting Germany's Angela Merkel in her visit with him. I have rarely seen such rudeness and ignorance displayed to a visiting world leader

However..my main concerns were at home and how Trump treated Malcolm Turnbull like an idiot in 'that phone call' when Trump derided the agreement Australia had made with Obama regarding refugees

This was followed by the masterstroke when Trump insulted Australia by treating Turnbull to a full 'half an hour' audience with him during the Battle of the Coral Sea celebrations

All I can say is God help us if ever we really need America's help again because I strongly believe Trump would dump us like a dose of food poisoning unless it really suited America to give that support

He has shown that he is loyal to no one but himself and is capable of doing a complete reversal of position on a 'whim'

I almost fell off my chair when I read that he stated he would 'be honoured' to meet Jong Un of North Korea. Bloody hell the day before he was, lambasting him

The BIG PROBLEM with Donald Trump is that he is about as trustworthy as a rattlesnake

I deeply regret having to say those words but a President's actions define who they are. Donald Trump is proving to be the most untrustworthy President in U.S. History

He has the ability but unfortunately he is a deeply flawed human being

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

It couldn't be could it...that Comey was zeroing in on the investigation on allegation of Russian interference in the Presidential election?

Bingo!


red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

He has shown that he is loyal to no one but himself ...

As he has been, his entire worthless life.


red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

The BIG PROBLEM with Donald Trump is that he is about as trustworthy as a rattlesnake

That's one of his problems, yes.


red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

Donald Trump is proving to be the most untrustworthy President in U.S. History.

Already proven.


red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

He has the ability ...

No, he does not.  Not even close.


red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

he is a deeply flawed human being

I wouldn't necessarily use the term 'human being'.

You're a weak front bottom red baron.

The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade, but to demoralise opposition, and it's worked a charm on you. 

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:47am:

You're a weak nice person red baron.

Actually, red has shown himself to possess intelligence, in the true sense of the word.

i.e. a capacity for learning.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

... wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 10:47am: You're a weak nice person red baron. Actually, red has shown himself to possess intelligence, in the true sense of the word. i.e. a capacity for learning.

See this Baron?  Keep expressing "correct" opinions and you might get another pat on the head like this one.

Who's a good boy?

I congratulate Red or having courage to say it has he sees it..he is not behaving like the rest of the Trump supporters /lemmings in here, following a man who has no sense of decency or loyalty to Australia after the alliance we have had with the US over many decades- our men died in US led wars-and he is quite right, Trump has no decency or loyalty-

If you still support Trump after that scathing disregard he has shown to our country, then these supporters are traitors to Australia..and they should be kicked out of Australia forwith. ( if only)

Trump can be intimidated easily by Kim Jong sending him a scary video depicting war heads descending on the white house. . Jesus Christ, how cowardly stupid and patheic is Trump.. Kim Jong says BOO..and this is all it took to have Trump sucking out of Kim Jongs ass and shiitting his diaper.. I also believe Trump would desert us in any miltary attack that came our way,,because to date he has shown no loyalty or decency to toward anyone or thing...I have no doubt he is mentally ill, sacking Comey was a very very dumb move..if there was any doubt at all that he was up to his armpits in rigging the election and colluding with the russians, there isnt now!

Agnes wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

I congratulate Red or having courage to say it has he sees it..he is not behaving like the rest of the Trump supporters /lemmings in here, following a man who has no sense of decency or loyalty to Australia after the alliance we have had with the US over many decades- our men died in US led wars-and he is quite right, Trump has no decency or loyalty- If you still support Trump after that scathing disregard he has shown to our country, then these supporters are traitors to Australia..and they should be kicked out of Australia forwith. ( if only) Trump can be intimidated easily by Kim Jong sending him a scary video depicting war heads descending on the white house. . Jesus Christ, how cowardly stupid and patheic is Trump.. Kim Jong says BOO..and this is all it took to have Trump sucking out of Kim Jongs ass and shiitting his diaper.. I also believe Trump would desert us in any miltary attack that came our way,,because to date he has shown no loyalty ir decency to toward anyone or thing...I have no doubt he is mentally ill, sacking Comey was a very very dumb move..if there was any doubt at all that he was up to his armpits in rigging the election and colluding with the russians, there isnt now!

Yes, I congratulate red too.

And yes, Trump is mentally ill.

This is going great hey red? 

All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

This is going great hey red?  All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

Settle, petal.

I don't hate anyone.

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

This is going great hey red?  All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

  I am admiring of the fact that RB isnt being pressured by the traitors to their own country in this forum, supporting a creep who is kicking australia in the guts, what a bunch of gutless brainless swinging in the breeze dead carcasses they are..they are no good to Australia and those who would support Trump ought to piiss of back to where they come from, for they are no good to or for this country.


They ought to be ashamed. >:(

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

This is going great hey red?  All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

It takes a real man to admit it when he is wrong...guess that leaves a few out in here .. ::) ::)

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

All I can say is God help us if ever we really need America's help again because I strongly believe Trump would dump us like a dose of food poisoning unless it really suited America to give that support

While not wanting to piss on your road-to-Damascus parade, but the US position regarding its obligations to Australia were set in concrete by General MacArthur during WW2.

After Curtin was encouraged by the General to get off his knees thanking the US, MacArthur bluntly told him that thanks weren't necessary as the only reason the US was defending Australia was because it was in the US national interests to do so.

Since our abandonment by Britain during WW2, we have always imagined that the US would defend us as if we were the 51st state... It just ain't true.

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

I almost fell off my chair when I read that he stated he would 'be honoured' to meet Jong Un of North Korea. Bloody hell the day before he was, lambasting him

Said before, said again... Unfortunately for Australia, Trump only has eyes for dictators... From Putin to el Sisi, to Erdogan, Duterte and Kim Jong-un, Trump has a passion for them all.

Australia, in the mind of someone so inclined, is weakened by our 'slavish' respect for US-birthed democratic ideals.

But, above all, we are, to Trump, small and insignificant... And its all he can do to repress his inclination to disabuse us of our collective delusion of being 'family' and 'highly regarded' by the US.

Re the OP...


It sounds so much like a 'born again' experience. Finally, the penny drops that Trump himself is a terrible, arrogant and wholly narcisistic scumbag who brings nothing to the table other than gross incompetence.

Welcome back to the real world, Red!

longweekend58 wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Trump himself is a terrible, arrogant and wholly narcissistic scumbag who brings nothing to the table other than gross incompetence.

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/rulings%2Ftom-true.gif

Bumper sticker material, right there.

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

Yes I guess you would call it the 'turn around of the Century' but I cannot help but make a comment on Trump's decision to sack F.B.I. Chief James Comey I mean if Donald Trump went from calling James Comey as a brilliant leader of the F.B.I. to the position he now holds which is that Comey is a 'grandstander and a showboater' then I can change position according to what is current and relevant It couldn't be could it...that Comey was zeroing in on the investigation on allegation of Russian interference in the Presidential election? I admit to having been a first class supporter of Donald Trump. I did and I still believe that Trump has brought many brilliant ideas to the table I do believe that Trump can and is turning America on its head. Something it sorely needed However Donald Trump's enormous liability is his brazen lack of loyalty to anyone who in the slightest manner states a different point of view to 'the Donald' This is exactly the thing that got Julius Caesar assassinated. The parallels are incredible. Caesar was great..Caesar had vision but Caesar loved the Genie of power above all and in the end it was that unquenchable lust for power that brought about his downfall The alarm bells started ringing loud and clear with his unbelievable lack of manners when hosting Germany's Angela Merkel in her visit with him. I have rarely seen such rudeness and ignorance displayed to a visiting world leader However..my main concerns were at home and how Trump treated Malcolm Turnbull like an idiot in 'that phone call' when Trump derided the agreement Australia had made with Obama regarding refugees This was followed by the masterstroke when Trump insulted Australia by treating Turnbull to a full 'half an hour' audience with him during the Battle of the Coral Sera celebrations All I can say is God help us if ever we really need America's help again because I strongly believe Trump would dump us like a dose of food poisoning unless it really suited America to give that support He has shown that he is loyal to no one but himself and is capable of doing a complete reversal of position on a 'whim' I almost fell off my chair when I read that he stated he would 'be honoured' to meet Jong Un of North Korea. Bloody hell the day before he was, lambasting him The BIG PROBLEM with Donald Trump is that he is about as trustworthy as a rattlesnake I deeply regret having to say those words but a President's actions define who they are. Donald Trump is proving to be the most untrustworthy President in U.S. History He has the ability but unfortunately he is a deeply flawed human being

I was never a Trump supporter, but like many who did not support him, I believe he used three things to get elected, and they are all legitimate concerns. 1. Muzlim atrocities against the public, internationally. 2. Open door leftist attitudes to illegal aliens. 3. The use of cheap offshore labour against the living standard of American workers.

Those three items were easily enough to convince voters. They didn't need the Russians of Hillary's emails.

That being said, the Republicans are digging themselves a political grave. They had a chance to dump Trump before the election, but he said he'd run as an independent and his numbers went through the roof. Even respectable Republicans would not stand up to his oafishness as long as it won votes. They are taking the golden opportunity of President, House, and Senate, and letting him issue decrees in the form of executive orders. That is not American Democracy.

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

This is going great hey red?  All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

Yes because theres zero groupthink in the right eh?

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

This is going great hey red?  All these people who hated you, called you every nane under the sun and would have shipped you off to the gulag in a heartbeat, now they love you!  And all you had to do was submit to groupthink.  Ahhh sweet surrender!

Has Red been demonstrating low vibration energy from the Dur Zone, or has he in fact expressed justifiable disenchantment with Trump's crass disregard for the protocols of his office?

I believe it's been the latter.

~ "During your rise to power be careful to treat people as you yourself would wish to be treated, because in your waning years the day will surely arrive when you will need them to speak up on your behalf ".

Trump is heading for a very lonely retirement in 4 years time. He'll be a social pariah by then.

For a US president to say he would be 'honoured' to meet Kim Jong-un who had his uncle killed and eaten by a cage full of starving dogs is just way beyond the pale.

He's a loose cannon on the deck of the Titanic and seems to have way less commonsense than the average person in the street. Is he sniffing coke all day long? 

I agree with whoever said Trump's poor behaviour when meeting foreign leaders is because of a massive inferiority complex when confronted with these people who are genuine academics and intellectuals with skills he can only dream of for himself.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

Trump is heading for a very lonely retirement in 4 years time. He'll be a social pariah by then.

Or in a box.

People may say I have turned on Trump, that, is true

I had enormous hopes for him because I saw a screaming need for America to be 'reinvented'

I saw him as an agent of change and decided to ignore the 'holes' in his make up

I had hoped that he would stay the course 'with the Big Picture' that he painted for America.

The U.S. is a financial basket case. I saw Trump as the man who could reverse this slide into the abyss

He may still well do it. But Trump has demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt that those who would put their trust in him also put themselves in potential great peril

Because if things go sour with what he is doing, one thing is crystal clear..Donald Trump will be the first person in the lifeboat

greggerypeccary wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:21pm: Trump is heading for a very lonely retirement in 4 years time. He'll be a social pariah by then. Or in a box.

Or in a padded cell.

***

Trump may yet redeem himself by making certain 'controversial' decisions that his predecessors have been too politically gutless to initiate.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:40pm: Lord Herbert wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:21pm: Trump is heading for a very lonely retirement in 4 years time. He'll be a social pariah by then. Or in a box. Or in a padded cell.

Or a prison cell.

Any sort of cell would be my preference, however, I suspect he'll get the easy way out and drop dead of a massive heart attack.

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Because if things go sour with what he is doing, one thing is crystal clear..Donald Trump will be the first person in the lifeboat

Indeed.

Just think, Billy Zane's character in 'Titanic'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEWniG991O0

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

The U.S. is a financial basket case. I saw Trump as the man who could reverse this slide into the abyss

Five bankruptcies, and a string of failed businesses longer than Pinocchio's nose.

Yeah.

Trump is also capable of financial success Greg. His plan to put the U.S. on a level playing field with the rest of the world can only help America's finances

Don't forget that those who have made vast fortunes in the world have also experienced the ignominy of bankruptcy and failure when  some ventures go belly up

Nothing ventured nothing gained

America needs a radical change in direction because their debt is humungous...time for bold moves not  waiting to go under :)

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 3:45pm:

Trump is also capable of financial success Greg. His plan to put the U.S. on a level playing field with the rest of the world can only help America's finances Don't forget that those who have made vast fortunes in the world have also experienced the ignominy of bankruptcy and failure when  some ventures go belly up Nothing ventured nothing gained America needs a radical change in direction because their debt is humungous...time for bold moves not  waiting to go under :)

It is his arrogance in even assuming that america is at some 'disadvantage' in trade. It isnt. You dont get to be the worlds biggest economy by remaining 'at disadvantage'. Trump simply looks at certain industries where america is at a disadvantage because of say, their cost base and assumes that this is somehow 'unfair' and then when america has a huge advantage eg technology and military sales etc, simply ignores it.

red baron wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

People may say I have turned on Trump, that, is true I had enormous hopes for him because I saw a screaming need for America to be 'reinvented' I saw him as an agent of change and decided to ignore the 'holes' in his make up I had hoped that he would stay the course 'with the Big Picture' that he painted for America. The U.S. is a financial basket case. I saw Trump as the man who could reverse this slide into the abyss He may still well do it. But Trump has demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt that those who would put their trust in him also put themselves in potential great peril Because if things go sour with what he is doing, one thing is crystal clear..Donald Trump will be the first person in the lifeboat

Mike Moore predicted this kind of conversion in 'Trumpland'

... wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:47am:

You're a weak nice person red baron. The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade, but to demoralise opposition, and it's worked a charm on you.

Everybody predicted Red's change of heart, Honky.

You're predicted to grow increasingly sulky, and finally, never mention Trump again.

We give you one year. By 12/05/2018, you will actively avoid threads like this, if not this entire forum. You'll complain about the death of politics and how mean everyone is and how Amerika's gone to the dogs and thank God you don't live there.

Until then, feel free to make Amerika great again.

Don't know what you are banging on about Honky. I changed position on Trump because of his bewildering radical changes  of position when no logical argument can be applied to many of those changes

Trump is as stable as nitro glycerine

I have supported Donald Trump for a long time but his actions are becoming more and more alarming

I still believe he has the ability to turn America's fortunes around but many of his supporters must be scratching their heads at his recent form

What he did to F.B.I., Director James Comey a decent honourable man is unconscionable

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 8:16am:

Don't know what you are banging on about Honky. I changed position on Trump because of his bewildering radical changes  of position when no logical argument can be applied to many of those changes Trump is as stable as nitro glycerine I have supported Donald Trump for a long time but his actions are becoming more and more alarming I still believe he has the ability to turn America's fortunes around but many of his supporters must be scratching their heads at his recent form What he did to F.B.I., Director James Comey a decent honourable man is unconscionable

Why do you think he has that ability? To date he has demonstrated an astonishing INability to do pretty much anything. He appears to have had an appallingly poor education such that he thinks he invented 'priming the pump', discovered that government is 'big' and healthcare is 'hard' and apparently, there was a civil war he hadn't known about.

He has the financial ability Longy because unlike most Presidents before him he has the financial nouse to know when America is getting screwed..which it is in many agreements including NATO which the Americans has practically funded by themselves when the huge benefit goes to the European bloc

That is just an example there are plenty more out there where America has been 'used up' by crippled economies taking advantage

Trump is no dummy when it comes to dollars and cents,  just unstable with decisions as to his staff and with international relations

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

He has the financial ability Longy because unlike most Presidents before him he has the financial nouse to know when America is getting screwed..

Where do you come up with this stuff?

He has no ability, whatsoever.

He is an incompetent, ignorant, poorly educated buffoon.

He is all of that Greg, he is also a man who took over the reins of his father's company and turned it from a multi million dollar business to a billion dollar business

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:31pm:

He is all of that Greg, he is also a man who took over the reins of his father's company and turned it from a multi million dollar business to a billion dollar business

1. I don't consider him a man. That's an insult to all decent human beings.

2. Daddy gave him 40 million to get started, and then an additional 200 million when he carked it.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

red baron wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 3:31pm: He is all of that Greg, he is also a man who took over the reins of his father's company and turned it from a multi million dollar business to a billion dollar business 1. I don't consider him a man. That's an insult to all decent human beings. 2. Daddy gave him 40 million to get started, and then an additional 200 million when he carked it.

Which is one Hell of a giddyup in any man's language.  I know nothing really about Trump's financial 'success' but I have read (and it seems credible) that Trump managed to get himself so far into his financiers that he became far too big (i.e.....he owed them too much) for them to pull the plug on him.  A giant Ponzi scheme handed to him by the big end of town.  Then a dalliance with Russia?

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

He has the financial ability Longy because unlike most Presidents before him he has the financial nouse to know when America is getting screwed..which it is in many agreements including NATO which the Americans has practically funded by themselves when the huge benefit goes to the European bloc That is just an example there are plenty more out there where America has been 'used up' by crippled economies taking advantage Trump is no dummy when it comes to dollars and cents,  just unstable with decisions as to his staff and with international relations

4 bankruptcies would indicate quite the opposite.

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:31pm:

He is all of that Greg, he is also a man who took over the reins of his father's company and turned it from a multi million dollar business to a billion dollar business

His reputation as a businessman is so bad that NO BANK IN THE USA would lend to him - none. And we are talking about a banking system that was lending to people who had dreadful records but still wouldnt lend to Trump. And then there is the unenviable record that NO ONE has ever done business with him twice. He bullies and refuses to pay and then threatens to bankrupt you in court for trying to get him to pay.

The man is a scumbag.

red baron wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:31pm:

He is all of that Greg, he is also a man who took over the reins of his father's company and turned it from a multi million dollar business to a billion dollar business

He would have done that by investing in property bonds with compound interest.

If Trump was so smart, he would have pulled out of casinos when he was saddled with nearly 20% interest rates and couldn't even pay his staff.

Instead, the banks took the casinos from him. Trump lost investors nearly a billion US dollars.

Longy's right. No US bank would lend to Trump. Trump was forced to hit up the Saudis and the Russians.

And that's how Trump ended up in a Moscow hotel room with a gaggle of Russian prostitutes and a shower curtain on the floor.

A gaggle of Russian prostitutes wow I'd like to see that Karnal..just trying to figure out the shower curtain's part in frivolities

Red is one of the few posters who calls individual incidents as he sees them and deserves credit for that.

Issues like this one is a bit late, there is nothing he has stated that was not set in concrete in terms of being absolute certainties well known before the election.

There are no surprises at all in any of this it is just what was expected.


Quote:

but unfortunately he is a deeply flawed human being

You do know that he is on record prior to the election saying not only that he expects to get away with sexually assaulting women but that he does ?

Donald also took election honesty to a whole new low level with over 75% of what he said being untrue.

In terms of character these are the type of things that Trump voters and supporters ignored. Some now seem surprised to find that Trump is still the same grubby untrustworthy individual that he always was.

red baron wrote on May 14^th, 2017 at 8:24am:

A gaggle of Russian prostitutes wow I'd like to see that Karnal..just trying to figure out the shower curtain's part in frivolities

I am sure that Karnal will take on that challenge.

You do know that when visiting Russia Trump has said that he was treated very well. I doubt that he would have said no and also doubt that the Russians would have destroyed the pictures.

red baron wrote on May 14^th, 2017 at 8:24am:

A gaggle of Russian prostitutes wow I'd like to see that Karnal..just trying to figure out the shower curtain's part in frivolities

You're probably the last person on earth not to have heard this one, son.

Pissygate, innit.