"The House of Representatives has voted 217 to 213 repeal Obamacare with their own replacement, the American Health Care Act.

The razor-thin victory comes six weeks after the House postponed a vote on a previous version of the health care legislation, after President Trump reportedly asked Speaker Ryan to pull the bill."

Hopefully the Senate will show some sanity.

Most likely it will die in the Senate be shipped back to the House and finally die there.

In spite of all this, America is closer to Medicare for all than it has been in many decades. If TrumpCare passes, it will only hasten the collapse of the American healthcare system.

AiA wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 5:08am:

In spite of all this, America is closer to Medicare for all than it has been in many decades. If TrumpCare passes, it will only hasten the collapse of the American healthcare system.

Seems like it's Déjà vu all over again.....Wasn't that the cry 7 years ago, but wasn't it  being said by the other side about ObamaCare?

the great thing about america and the reason it throws up so many creative and talented people is that , the republicans recognise that small government is the best thing to help people get onto the "narrow road to success".

our liberal party is still a big government party and this is because the egos of our politicians are out of control.

but it takes a very "superior man" , when given power, to not exert control and to give back, as an act of love, that power to the citizens.

Joe Lunchbox in america has a wonderful opportunity that few in socialist europe, or socialist australia will ever have.
he has the "evolutionary pressure" to make him climb.
he has a government which says that one must, to a certain extent, take responsibility for the trajectory of your own life.

in the socialist regimes of europe and australia, it is just SO EASY to be apathetic, it is SO EASY to be mediocre, knowing that this enormous safety net will catch you when you mess up.  this encourages people to "mess up".

without the blowtorch of consequences for being a mediocre pussy, how can a country ever become great?
It cant.

keep applying the blowtorch to the american population Donald.
fat steve will thank you in the end.

god bless america
god bless the president
god bless capitalism
god bless the market
god bless the pain and problems which will provide the emotional juice to get people into an upward spiral and stop being butt hurt little whining pot smoking pussies

Panther wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 10:32am:

AiA wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 5:08am: In spite of all this, America is closer to Medicare for all than it has been in many decades. If TrumpCare passes, it will only hasten the collapse of the American healthcare system. Seems like it's Déjà vu all over again.....Wasn't that the cry 7 years ago, but wasn't it  being said by the other side about ObamaCare?

You are looking at it all wrong. Think of American healthcare like a gaping shark bite - the swimmer is bleeding to death. Obamacare was a bandage. Trumpcare is a smaller bandage.

AiA wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

Panther wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 10:32am: AiA wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 5:08am: In spite of all this, America is closer to Medicare for all than it has been in many decades. If TrumpCare passes, it will only hasten the collapse of the American healthcare system. Seems like it's Déjà vu all over again.....Wasn't that the cry 7 years ago, but wasn't it  being said by the other side about ObamaCare? You are looking at it all wrong. Think of American healthcare like a gaping shark bite - the swimmer is bleeding to death. Obamacare was a bandage. Trumpcare is a smaller bandage.

Ah, but a bandage that will be much more sustainable down the road......until financial pressures eventually catch up to it too.

Any government plan that subsidizes the product eventually grows, becoming more & more unsustainable.

Health care, like the wonderful healthcare system we have here in Australia, must be heavily subsidized by the government.

Sometimes that means tax increases, but because that doesn't always get a warm reception by the general public, more & more of that subsidy must be financed via borrowing.

Our system, great as it is, will only be sustainable for the present generations, to a point when tough decisions will need to be made, cut benefits, cut who is covered (changing thresholds), or increase taxes.

There's no such thing as a free lunch, & socialized (subsidized) medicine will stress when the government runs out of other peoples money, to the point that it is no longer sustainable, debt goes through the roof, & unfortunately implodes upon itself & needs to be replaced.  :(

Panther wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

AiA wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 11:06am: Panther wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 10:32am: AiA wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 5:08am: In spite of all this, America is closer to Medicare for all than it has been in many decades. If TrumpCare passes, it will only hasten the collapse of the American healthcare system. Seems like it's Déjà vu all over again.....Wasn't that the cry 7 years ago, but wasn't it  being said by the other side about ObamaCare? You are looking at it all wrong. Think of American healthcare like a gaping shark bite - the swimmer is bleeding to death. Obamacare was a bandage. Trumpcare is a smaller bandage. Ah, but a bandage that will be much more sustainable down the road......until financial pressures eventually catch up to it too. Any government plan that subsidizes the product eventually grows, becoming more & more unsustainable. Health care, like the wonderful healthcare system we have here in Australia, must be heavily subsidized by the government. Sometimes that means tax increases, but because that doesn't always get a warm reception by the general public, more & more of that subsidy must be financed via borrowing. Our system, great as it is, will only be sustainable for the present generations, to a point when tough decisions will need to be made, cut benefits, cut who is covered (changing thresholds), or increase taxes. There's no such thing as a free lunch, & socialized (subsidized) medicine will stress when the government runs out of other peoples money, to the point that it is no longer sustainable, debt goes through the roof, & unfortunately implodes upon itself & needs to be replaced.  :(

You have no idea of American health expenditures as a total percentage of the GDP,  do you? The American *system* is so good it is the highest in the world.

Medical care and the health care industry barely have anything in common. Drive around any big American City and you will see huge buildings with the names of major insurance companies. That is the "Health Care Industry", it supports an army of office drones who have nothing to do with actual medical treatment. If we could go back to the system where we pay our Doctor and the money stays with the Clinic the cost of treatment would be a fraction of what it is today.

Not only has Trump praised Australia's healthcare system - in the last day - but in the past he has advocated for a system that covers ALL Americans, yet now ...

Have to admire how Trump and his butt buddy Ryan put a target on the backs of the poor and will start executing them as soon as possible with this Bill.

Trump's own for-profit health insurance industry butt buddies are salivating at the fact that  individuals would be even more at the mercy of the private insurance companies starting with the elimination the ACA rule that insurers cover a certain share of policyholders’ costs. Now, insurers would be allowed to charge five times or more for older Americans’ insurance coverage than for younger people, compared to three times more under the ACA.

Mortdooley wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Medical care and the health care industry barely have anything in common. Drive around any big American City and you will see huge buildings with the names of major insurance companies. That is the "Health Care Industry", it supports an army of office drones who have nothing to do with actual medical treatment. If we could go back to the system where we pay our Doctor and the money stays with the Clinic the cost of treatment would be a fraction of what it is today.

Yeah morty, it's called single payer. And both Trump and Hillary were against it.

Marla wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 5:39am:

Now, insurers would be allowed to charge five times or more for older Americans’ insurance coverage than for younger people, compared to three times more under the ACA.

that will explode in their faces

Maybe so. But it won't be right away.

Obama Care was just fine IF you could afford the $3,000 a year to belong.  If not there's always the giutter

That program wads good for the middle class but a horror show for the poor

It needed change and it got it

red baron wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 9:07am:

Obama Care was just fine IF you could afford the $3,000 a year to belong.  If not there's always the giutter That program wads good for the middle class but a horror show for the poor It needed change and it got it

You're confused. Come back later.

red baron wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 9:07am:

Obama Care was just fine IF you could afford the $3,000 a year to belong.  If not there's always the gutter. That program wads good for the middle class but a horror show for the poor It needed change and it got it

You just troll for the attention, don't you?

The Trump/Ryan "let kill the poor" is an reactionary bill that builds on the regressive, pro-corporate framework of Obamacare. Only diffy being the Trump/Ryan one benefits the rich, slashes taxes for corporations while also disproportionately taking aim at health coverage for the poor, and older Americans and those with preexisting conditions.

No idea where you get the "$3,000/year" horseshit other than you pulled it out of your ass like you do with every post you make.

https://youtu.be/D0_-rpxfYeo

The problem is the price of health care in the USA.

An operation that you could get here for say $5,000
would cost $25,000 in the USA.

Surgeons & doctors are running a health racket.

Please shut up, Blooby.

ermm .. your awake , by the way ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FliGdEGBoIw

LIBERALS Freak Out over TRUMP winning the election. Part 1 (Documentation of the Fall out)

many of the local idiots and pundits believed the polls ..

WHICH WERE FAKE NEWS !!!

https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_24/1577141/who_do_you_think_will_win_the_2016_presidential_election-_clinton_trump_chartbuilder_5ae89096092dba3d7ab2929a9570dc02.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZi2ok9eUE

The Donald and butthurt Liberals

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Marla wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 11:45am:

Please shut up, brave sir Bobby.

Dear Marla,
Americans are getting ripped off every second of the day
while surgeons & doctors grow filthy rich.

I think I read a North Korean newspaper headline like that... "Time to DIE America".

I can only guess bobs the psychiatrists are getting fatter and fatter....the howling that appears to be  still be going on over there.....

a new syndrome  perhaps

sore losers BELLY..


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