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General Discussion >> General Board >> Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1493888825 Message started by juliar on May 4th, 2017 at 7:07pm |
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Title: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by juliar on May 4th, 2017 at 7:07pm
On Current Affair just now the Queen and Prince Phil are stepping down from public duties.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Jovial Monk on May 4th, 2017 at 7:19pm
Only Philip.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by crocodile on May 4th, 2017 at 7:19pm
Not quite the same thing as handing over to Chuckles as King Charles III.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Leftwinger on May 4th, 2017 at 7:20pm
Gaf ::)
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by juliar on May 4th, 2017 at 7:37pm
Oh well better to be half right than half wrong.
Then when is the Queen stepping down? I reckon everyone is dreading Prince Charles and Camila becoming King and Princess. I reckon that's why the Queen won't step down. Prince Charles is even more boring than Snorten Shorten. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Redmond Neck on May 4th, 2017 at 7:44pm
Juliar = Wanker ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Sir Bobby on May 4th, 2017 at 7:52pm
Juliar is forgiven for posting fake news.
namaste |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Jovial Monk on May 4th, 2017 at 8:09pm
Booby posts fake news every day and never apologises for loading the board down with crap.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Ye Grappler on May 4th, 2017 at 8:27pm
Well, Phil is 95 and been crook for a while... I don't blame him for standing down from official duties - though it probably means he is in very poor health.
Watch this front for breaking news.... |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Francis on May 4th, 2017 at 8:42pm
Ohh poo....now the Republican debate will fire up.
Imagine. . These current idiots ( and i including both sides of Parliament ) in complete control :-[ Book me a ticket out here ...quick. Australia hasn't the talent to survive as a republic. We have been going backwards for the last 15 years with the current status quo >:( |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Aussie on May 4th, 2017 at 8:45pm Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 8:27pm:
If I were he, I'd have told them all to far cough ages ago. Guess that's why he is there and Ima not. He has done a great ceremonial job. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Karnal on May 4th, 2017 at 8:48pm
Oh, seriously. Only a leftart would give a toss about this sort of nonsense.
Who cares? |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by juliar on May 4th, 2017 at 9:08pm
I thought after Abbo knighted Prince Phillip nothing would stop him.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Karnal on May 4th, 2017 at 9:20pm juliar wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
I know you do, dear. Knighting Prince Phillip was "Abbo's" political masterstroke. That, and that nippers Manly surf carnival and fete he did. The footage the networks captured in "Abbo's" speedos was divine. Nice work, Peta. Thanks, Abbo. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by crocodile on May 4th, 2017 at 9:22pm juliar wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 7:37pm:
Probably never. I don't believe a reigning British monarch has ever stood down of their own volition in favour of their heir. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Leftwinger on May 4th, 2017 at 9:51pm Enquiring mind wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
Your take downs are legendary ;) |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by macman on May 5th, 2017 at 6:05am Its time wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:51pm:
Unfortunately wasted on an idiot like juLiar. Wouldn't have the sense to know. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by The Mechanic on May 5th, 2017 at 8:26am Bobby. wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
;D |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Ye Grappler on May 5th, 2017 at 11:08pm
.... in breaking news today......... juliar is stepping in it...... psychiatric experts say there is nothing unusual about this, and it has no real effect on juliar in any meaningful way..... in other news.... Her Maj is not stepping down just yet, but she's decided, over a game of whist in the middle of the night, that her husband, Prince Philip, may retired in August, since he will be 96..... meanwhile, nobody has died at the palace, and Prince William will not by-pass his father for the crown..... the latest poll says that Prince Harry is considered much more fun.......
Nope - she doesn't stoop to concur..... |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Dnarever on May 6th, 2017 at 1:06am juliar wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 7:37pm:
"the king is dead, long live the king" The statement is one of continuity the current monarch has died long live the succeeding ruler. There is an expectation that the King or Queen will die in office - there is no stepping down from this position. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Francis on May 6th, 2017 at 7:28am
Can I hijack this thread and ask if you would support Australia becoming a Republic and serving all ties with Great Britain?
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Gnads on May 6th, 2017 at 10:11am Francis wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 7:28am:
;D Ahhh no. And how do you "sever" all ties with GB? Phil is ceasing his official duties ... no need for any further speculation. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Dnarever on May 6th, 2017 at 10:47am Francis wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 7:28am:
I don't particularly like the republic label, why do we need to be something different to what we are ? At this point I would say no, mainly because the republicans are trying to stack any contest and produce a positive result for them to allow a model that we probably won't like to be locked in. Besides I rather like that we are a little different from the crowd, we have a good structure with unobtrusive ties to a system with a great tradition and stability. Most of the argument in support of change is vexatious and dishonest. The desire for change seems to be just that change for no or little genuine reason or with no advantage, it is simply change for the sake of change. The fact is it would be change without benefit or reason but holding a significant risk and great cost. When you queue up the words you get expensive, risky, dishonest, no advantage, no improvement, just a different label. We currently have one of the best systems in the world, why would we risk that for no advantage ? The current pro republic position is to ask us to just sign a blank cheque, they will not tell us anything about the actual structure they want us to support. They are saying just sign here on the dotted line and we will tell you what you agreed too later. They are clearly aiming at the gullible sheep of our community, don't worry the cheque is in the mail and your mouth will remain pristine. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Ye Grappler on May 6th, 2017 at 10:53am Dnarever wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 10:47am:
That depends on which Republicans you are talking about..... there are the 'republicans' who simply want to replace the G-G with a parliament-elected stooge, and there are the Republicans who want a PEP with real powers and answerable to the people. I tend towards republicanism for the simple reason that any change is better than what we've got, but not towards the style preferred by the current despots in Parliament. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by The_Barnacle on May 6th, 2017 at 12:14pm juliar wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 7:37pm:
Where exactly are you half right? The Queen isn't stepping down Prince Phillip is merely retiring from public duties at the age of 95 You got it completely wrong as usual juliar |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Agnes on May 6th, 2017 at 4:51pm
I am not for a republic..I like our ties with Great Britian and it would be sad if the Queen retired from public life..I really rather like her
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2017 at 5:00pm
I believe we should explore the ways and means to become a Republic or how to import our own Monarchy.
My problem is that the Crown of Australia is only worn part time, when the Monarch is downunder. Otherwise, the Monarch is wearing the Crown of the UK. The Monarch and her family regularly represent the UK at trade fairs and on diplomatic missions - the detriment of Australia. If we had our own HoS (either elected/appointed/inherited), those concerns would be eased or cease. If we had our own Monarch - personally I favour Anne moving to Canberra and becoming an Australian citizen - it would answer most of the concerns of the Republicans and the Monarchists. It would cut the Gordian knot and solve most of the problems most Australians have with how our HoS is selected. It would even solve Tone Rabbits desire for a bush aristocracy. ::) |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Francis on May 6th, 2017 at 5:06pm
^ I quite like your thinking Brian. I think one of the bigger pitfalls will be how one is selected and the subsequent media /political frenzy over the process.
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Aussie on May 6th, 2017 at 5:16pm
This is an interesting notion:
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I'd not select Anne. Harry please. The notion makes for an almost seamless transition, but....is their any aspect of Australian Royal Family and dynasty to be attached to it? I guess so....why bother otherwise? Not sure I'd be too concerned anyway. It's all about opening fetes and attending to pomp/ceremony. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2017 at 7:13pm Aussie wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Harry is too young and too foolish. Anne is mature and like her mother, has a brain in her head. She has a daughter whom is married and a grandchild. So, the prospects look good for continuation of the Monarchy downunder. She would, of course have to renounce her British citizenship and become an Australian citizen, as would her daughter and grand-daughter. She would reside in Canberra, as would her daughter and grand-daughter. Her son-in-law plays Rugby so that would make him an excellent ambassador to the people of Australia, if and when her daughter became Queen. She would have to renounce all kinship and inheritance of the UK Crown. She would replace the Governor-General and reside in Australia as our HoS. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Aussie on May 6th, 2017 at 7:48pm
Okay....but the bottom line is.....a Windsor birth right President of the Australian Republic.
Novel....and I am almost supportive as it gets all the political crap out of the way. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2017 at 9:47pm Aussie wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
'cause it does. Which is why the Monarchists will hate it and why the Republicans will hate it. For the die hard ones, it's all or nothing. To the Monarchists, we need to keep tugging our forelocks to the Saxe-Coburg-und-Gothas. To the Republicans they want to tug their forelocks to Bob Menzies/Gough Whitlam. ::) |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Dnarever on May 6th, 2017 at 10:02pm Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Don't think there are many Monarchists, the majority who don't want change just see no need to spend a load of money and get nothing if we are lucky and it isn't stuffed up. I am not a monarchist and I support the status quo just because the proposed change is expensive, silly, dangerous and dishonest. What we have is one of the best systems in the world, why would we want to risk stuffing it up. |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by Brian Ross on May 7th, 2017 at 12:46am Dnarever wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Because we can become responsible for our own fate, rather than relying on a foreign monarch who only wears our crown when she visits? ::) |
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Title: Re: Stop Press: Queen is stepping down!!!!! Post by The_Barnacle on May 7th, 2017 at 11:53am Aussie wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
And there lies the problem. We would never agree on which royal to adopt. So instead of having the Monarchists v Republicans we would have Monarchists v Republicans v Princess Anne v Prince Harry etc etc. With so many different options there would be no way of getting a majority that would be required to change the constitution. |
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