Quote:

And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html

There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply.

Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:08pm:

Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims.

Its just stuff.

"What to do in a home invasion"

That's easy.

Invite Baronvonrort around to bore the intruder to death with tales of how gun ownership makes up for inadequate penis size.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff.

I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff"

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff"

maybe he learnt that one from trump

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm: I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff" maybe he learnt that one from trump

I would say he learnt that from Sunni Islam in Saudi Arabia

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm: I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff" maybe he learnt that one from trump

Quite possible.

Donald Trump has been accused of raping several women, and gang raping, beating, and then threatening to kill at least two children.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff.

And your wife and kids?

It'ld be very fast and scary.

I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come.

We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline.


SO,my line of defense is
1/ call the cops.

2/ call the cops.

3/ try to delay them from getting close

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline. SO,my line of defense is 1/ call the cops. 2/ call the cops. 3/ try to delay them from getting close

Should only take 10 or 20 minutes before they find your bodies.

You pathetic rightards live your entire lives in fear, every single minute of the day.

If it's not Muslim women in burqas that have you wetting your little knickers, it's bogeymen breaking into your house.

Get a life, you irrational cowards.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

You pathetic rightards live your entire lives in fear, every single minute of the day. If it's not Muslim women in burqas that have you wetting your little knickers, it's bogeymen breaking into your house. Get a life, you irrational cowards.

So you are denying the home invasions occur are you?

Or are you denying that criminals kill innocent people?

You are definitely trying to deny something, just wondering what it is?



Household burglary is one of the most widespread crimes in Australia – with around 335,700 break-ins recorded in 2009-10. Money is most commonly stolen (19 per cent) followed by jewellery (18 per cent), with other items such as firearms also taken from homes. Australians are wary of this crime with around 36 per cent believing their house is likely to be burgled in the forthcoming year. Steps can be taken to prevent homes from being burgled using a range of practical burglary prevention guides available on this webpage.


http://www.aic.gov.au/crime_types/property%20crime/burglary.html



The Tasmanian Opposition has renewed its calls for more funding to help police tackle major crime amid evidence of a rise in violent home invasions.

Police are still hunting for a gunman who bashed a Hobart father in a foiled invasion early on Wednesday morning.

The armed intruder broke into the house at Mount Rumney on Hobart's eastern shore and attacked the 65-year-old man, before fleeing when alarms were activated.

While police say it an isolated incident, the ABC can reveal at least four other homes in the Hobart area have been targeted in the past six months, at Battery Point, Mount Stuart, Lutana and Bridgewater.

In each attack, the victims were threatened with a shotgun or pistol.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-04/crime-funds-call/4800574


HOME invasions have swept Sydney with crooks "storming " into houses in the latest crime fad to hit our streets.
From Point Piper to Penrith the victims range from millionaires to housing commission tenants.

Since the beginning of the year there have been at least 24 "home invasions" made public, many of them violent.

Sydney Institute of Criminology lecturer Garner Clancy said they may just be a "fad' crime.

Improving home security systems making it harder for thieves has seen them hit when residents are home.

"In the same way car jackings increased when manufacturers made cars harder to steal the criminals evolve and adapt," he said.

"The same with homes."

"As other types of targets become harder there can be a displacement of crime."

He said it was hard to gauge how serious the problem is has been no research or figures about home invasions.

"Criminals will move on to other targets if they see perceive something as high risk and low reward."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/home-invasions-the-new-fad/news-story/bb43b43d8fe173bb2a61a65d81390ad6




Yep, "Nothing to see here".  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come.

;D ;D ;D

Good luck with that.

I had a 'home invader' a few years ago who tried to get in while knowing I was in here, and who must have known I'd called the police.

He stayed a full half hour trying to gain access to the backyard where no doubt he was intending to smash in the backdoor with no neighbours watching.

It took the police a good 45 minutes to arrive from the station that is only 5 minutes drive from my place.

Message: Under no circumstances rely on your EMERGENCY PHONE CALL SERVICE DIAL 000 to save you from a desperate situation that requires an immediate response.

Arm yourself with a gun ... a cross-bow ... a spear-fishing sling-shot ... any damned thing, and when the police finally arrive, tell them to go fack themselves.

"A large man is trying to break into my house with violent intent, could you please send some police around to my place as soon as possible?"

45 minutes later these fackers arrive with donut sugar stuck around their mouths .. Useless as tits on a bull.

If I'd had a gun, I would definitely have shot this fellow the moment he stepped into the house.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:12pm: You pathetic rightards live your entire lives in fear, every single minute of the day. If it's not Muslim women in burqas that have you wetting your little knickers, it's bogeymen breaking into your house. Get a life, you irrational cowards. So you are denying the home invasions occur are you? Or are you denying that criminals kill innocent people? You are definitely trying to deny something, just wondering what it is? Household burglary is one of the most widespread crimes in Australia – with around 335,700 break-ins recorded in 2009-10. Money is most commonly stolen (19 per cent) followed by jewellery (18 per cent), with other items such as firearms also taken from homes. Australians are wary of this crime with around 36 per cent believing their house is likely to be burgled in the forthcoming year. Steps can be taken to prevent homes from being burgled using a range of practical burglary prevention guides available on this webpage. http://www.aic.gov.au/crime_types/property%20crime/burglary.html The Tasmanian Opposition has renewed its calls for more funding to help police tackle major crime amid evidence of a rise in violent home invasions. Police are still hunting for a gunman who bashed a Hobart father in a foiled invasion early on Wednesday morning. The armed intruder broke into the house at Mount Rumney on Hobart's eastern shore and attacked the 65-year-old man, before fleeing when alarms were activated. While police say it an isolated incident, the ABC can reveal at least four other homes in the Hobart area have been targeted in the past six months, at Battery Point, Mount Stuart, Lutana and Bridgewater. In each attack, the victims were threatened with a shotgun or pistol. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-04/crime-funds-call/4800574 HOME invasions have swept Sydney with crooks "storming " into houses in the latest crime fad to hit our streets. From Point Piper to Penrith the victims range from millionaires to housing commission tenants. Since the beginning of the year there have been at least 24 "home invasions" made public, many of them violent. Sydney Institute of Criminology lecturer Garner Clancy said they may just be a "fad' crime. Improving home security systems making it harder for thieves has seen them hit when residents are home. "In the same way car jackings increased when manufacturers made cars harder to steal the criminals evolve and adapt," he said. "The same with homes." "As other types of targets become harder there can be a displacement of crime." He said it was hard to gauge how serious the problem is has been no research or figures about home invasions. "Criminals will move on to other targets if they see perceive something as high risk and low reward." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/home-invasions-the-new-fad/news-story/bb43b43d8fe173bb2a61a65d81390ad6 Yep, "Nothing to see here".  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm not denying anything.

I'm telling you that I don't spend my days hiding under my bed, quivering with irrational fear.

You rightards are the biggest bunch of panty-wetting little cowards I've ever seen.

You have more chance of being killed on the road than you do of being confronted by a home-invader, or killed by a terrorist.

Yet, you spend 24 hours a day shitting your knickers over those things, and don't think twice about getting in your 20 year old Holdens.

You really are a bunch of ignorant, irrational cowards.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that. I had a 'home invader' a few years ago who tried to get in while knowing I was in here, and who must have known I'd called the police. He stayed a full half hour trying to gain access to the backyard where no doubt he was intending to smash in the backdoor with no neighbours watching. It took the police a good 45 minutes to arrive from the station that is only 5 minutes drive from my place. Message: Under no circumstances rely on your EMERGENCY PHONE CALL SERVICE DIAL 000 to save you from a desperate situation that requires an immediate response. Arm yourself with a gun ... a cross-bow ... a spear-fishing sling-shot ... any damned thing, and when the police finally arrive, tell them to go fack themselves. "A large man is trying to break into my house with violent intent, could you please send some police around to my place as soon as possible?" 45 minutes later these fackers arrive with donut sugar stuck around their mouths .. Useless as tits on a bull. If I'd had a gun, I would definitely have shot this fellow the moment he stepped into the house.

Yes, if I had a gun I'ld use it.

Wonder if I set off the fire alarm - OR rang the fire station, saying there was a fire here ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that. I had a 'home invader' a few years ago who tried to get in while knowing I was in here, and who must have known I'd called the police. He stayed a full half hour trying to gain access to the backyard where no doubt he was intending to smash in the backdoor with no neighbours watching. It took the police a good 45 minutes to arrive from the station that is only 5 minutes drive from my place. Message: Under no circumstances rely on your EMERGENCY PHONE CALL SERVICE DIAL 000 to save you from a desperate situation that requires an immediate response. Arm yourself with a gun ... a cross-bow ... a spear-fishing sling-shot ... any damned thing, and when the police finally arrive, tell them to go fack themselves. "A large man is trying to break into my house with violent intent, could you please send some police around to my place as soon as possible?" 45 minutes later these fackers arrive with donut sugar stuck around their mouths .. Useless as tits on a bull. If I'd had a gun, I would definitely have shot this fellow the moment he stepped into the house. Yes, if I had a gun I'ld use it. Wonder if I set off the fire alarm - OR rang the fire station, saying there was a fire here ?

One can only hope.

I hope this helps:

How to call the Police…

George Phillips of Meridian Mississippi was going up to bed when his wife told him that he’d left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things.

He phoned the police, who asked “Is someone in your house?” and he said no. Then they said that all patrols were busy, and that he should simply lock his door and an officer would be along when available.

George said “Okay,” hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police again. “Hello. I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people in my shed. Well, you don’t have to worry about them now cause I’ve just shot them all.” Then he hung up.

Within five minutes three police cars, an Armed Response unit, and an ambulance showed up at the Phillips residence. Of course, the police caught the burglars red-handed. One of the policemen said to George: “I thought you said that you’d shot them!”

George said, “I thought you said there was nobody available!”


All kidding aside being a sniveling coward in the face of a home invasion is never the answer. If you are totally compliant they own you and you are theirs to do with as they please. Don't expect mercy, it isn't something they understand. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:12pm: You pathetic rightards live your entire lives in fear, every single minute of the day. If it's not Muslim women in burqas that have you wetting your little knickers, it's bogeymen breaking into your house. Get a life, you irrational cowards. So you are denying the home invasions occur are you? Or are you denying that criminals kill innocent people? You are definitely trying to deny something, just wondering what it is? Household burglary is one of the most widespread crimes in Australia – with around 335,700 break-ins recorded in 2009-10. Money is most commonly stolen (19 per cent) followed by jewellery (18 per cent), with other items such as firearms also taken from homes. Australians are wary of this crime with around 36 per cent believing their house is likely to be burgled in the forthcoming year. Steps can be taken to prevent homes from being burgled using a range of practical burglary prevention guides available on this webpage. http://www.aic.gov.au/crime_types/property%20crime/burglary.html The Tasmanian Opposition has renewed its calls for more funding to help police tackle major crime amid evidence of a rise in violent home invasions. Police are still hunting for a gunman who bashed a Hobart father in a foiled invasion early on Wednesday morning. The armed intruder broke into the house at Mount Rumney on Hobart's eastern shore and attacked the 65-year-old man, before fleeing when alarms were activated. While police say it an isolated incident, the ABC can reveal at least four other homes in the Hobart area have been targeted in the past six months, at Battery Point, Mount Stuart, Lutana and Bridgewater. In each attack, the victims were threatened with a shotgun or pistol. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-04/crime-funds-call/4800574 HOME invasions have swept Sydney with crooks "storming " into houses in the latest crime fad to hit our streets. From Point Piper to Penrith the victims range from millionaires to housing commission tenants. Since the beginning of the year there have been at least 24 "home invasions" made public, many of them violent. Sydney Institute of Criminology lecturer Garner Clancy said they may just be a "fad' crime. Improving home security systems making it harder for thieves has seen them hit when residents are home. "In the same way car jackings increased when manufacturers made cars harder to steal the criminals evolve and adapt," he said. "The same with homes." "As other types of targets become harder there can be a displacement of crime." He said it was hard to gauge how serious the problem is has been no research or figures about home invasions. "Criminals will move on to other targets if they see perceive something as high risk and low reward." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/home-invasions-the-new-fad/news-story/bb43b43d8fe173bb2a61a65d81390ad6 Yep, "Nothing to see here".  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I'm not denying anything. I'm telling you that I don't spend my days hiding under my bed, quivering with irrational fear. You rightards are the biggest bunch of panty-wetting little cowards I've ever seen. You have more chance of being killed on the road than you do of being confronted by a home-invader, or killed by a terrorist. Yet, you spend 24 hours a day shitting your knickers over those things, and don't think twice about getting in your 20 year old Holdens. You really are a bunch of ignorant, irrational cowards.

You seem to be reading things that are not there, you sure that it is not you being an irrational little princess.

People are just discussing the facts around home invasion, I haven't anything like what you have described.

Is your menses coming on a bit early?

Place a water bottle on your lower abdomen, I believe it helps your condition.  :)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff.

I'll take your sister then.     [.....or your daughter.]

And use her as i will.

She is 'stuff' too.        [.....ask any moslem.]



.



Natural Law....


Quote:

"16.  The state of war is a state of enmity and destruction; and therefore declaring by word or action, not a passionate and hasty, but sedate, settled design upon another man's life puts him in a state of war with him against whom he has declared such an intention, and so has exposed his life to the other's power to be taken away by him, or any one that joins with him in his defence, and espouses his quarrel; it being reasonable and just I should have a right to destroy that which threatens me with destruction; for by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred, and one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion, because they are not under the ties of the common law of reason, have no other rule but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as a beast of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power. 17.  And hence it is that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life. For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for nobody can desire to have me in his absolute power unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom- i.e.  make me a slave..." Of the State of War

- John Locke (1632-1704)




"....he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him;.....

......For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it;"

Yadda wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:13pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff. I'll take your sister then.

Growing tired of your own?    :-/

I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo.

Lets hope they arent boxers then.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline. SO,my line of defense is 1/ call the cops. 2/ call the cops. 3/ try to delay them from getting close Should only take 10 or 20 minutes before they find your bodies.

Circa 2017, governments in every Western 'democracy' have made the protection of the [functioning of the] political 'state' the priority for 'the police service'.      .....this is the case in Australia too.

Circa 2017, the protection of the common citizen, is a secondary concern.

rhino wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. Lets hope they arent boxers then.

Don't underestimate Judo -

President Putin has a black belt in Judo.

Mortdooley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

I hope this helps: How to call the Police… George Phillips of Meridian Mississippi was going up to bed when his wife told him that he’d left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things. He phoned the police, who asked “Is someone in your house?” and he said no. Then they said that all patrols were busy, and that he should simply lock his door and an officer would be along when available. George said “Okay,” hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police again. “Hello. I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people in my shed. Well, you don’t have to worry about them now cause I’ve just shot them all.” Then he hung up. Within five minutes three police cars, an Armed Response unit, and an ambulance showed up at the Phillips residence. Of course, the police caught the burglars red-handed. One of the policemen said to George: “I thought you said that you’d shot them!” George said, “I thought you said there was nobody available!” All kidding aside being a sniveling coward in the face of a home invasion is never the answer. If you are totally compliant they own you and you are theirs to do with as they please. Don't expect mercy, it isn't something they understand.

mortdooley,

LOL


See, that is what i call critical/creative thinking !

Yadda wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline. SO,my line of defense is 1/ call the cops. 2/ call the cops. 3/ try to delay them from getting close Should only take 10 or 20 minutes before they find your bodies. Circa 2017, governments in every Western 'democracy' have made the protection of the [functioning of the] political 'state' the priority for 'the police service'.      .....this is the case in Australia too. Circa 2017, the protection of the common citizen, is a secondary concern.

The motto of most police forces is "To Protect and Serve", they just don't say who or what they are protecting or serving.  :) :)

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo.

LOL



bobby,

I hope,             ......that you are kidding!!!!!

Whoah

Yadda wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. LOL bobby, I hope,             ......that you are kidding!!!!!

I must admit - I'd prefer a 44 magnum to deal with punks:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Nci-GVuHE

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. Lets hope they arent boxers then. Don't underestimate Judo - President Putin has a black belt in Judo.

.......and probably a personal MP-443 Grach Semi-automatic pistol in his bedroom.

Yadda wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:45pm: rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. Lets hope they arent boxers then. Don't underestimate Judo - President Putin has a black belt in Judo. .......and probably a personal MP-443 Grach Semi-automatic pistol in his bedroom.

But punks have rights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buNwwAximcE

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:38pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline. SO,my line of defense is 1/ call the cops. 2/ call the cops. 3/ try to delay them from getting close Should only take 10 or 20 minutes before they find your bodies. Circa 2017, governments in every Western 'democracy' have made the protection of the [functioning of the] political 'state' the priority for 'the police service'.      .....this is the case in Australia too. Circa 2017, the protection of the common citizen, is a secondary concern. The motto of most police forces is "To Protect and Serve", they just don't who or what they are protecting or serving.  :) :)

"they just don't who or what" ???

What word did you leave out ?     ;)

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm: I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff" maybe he learnt that one from trump I would say he learnt that from Sunni Islam in Saudi Arabia

I doubt trump even knows what Sunni Islam is

Yadda wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:19pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:47pm: Yadda wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:38pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. We both have mobiles in the bedroom too and a landline. SO,my line of defense is 1/ call the cops. 2/ call the cops. 3/ try to delay them from getting close Should only take 10 or 20 minutes before they find your bodies. Circa 2017, governments in every Western 'democracy' have made the protection of the [functioning of the] political 'state' the priority for 'the police service'.      .....this is the case in Australia too. Circa 2017, the protection of the common citizen, is a secondary concern. The motto of most police forces is "To Protect and Serve", they just don't who or what they are protecting or serving.  :) :) "they just don't who or what" ??? What word did you leave out ?     ;)

Sh1t 4 weeks of night shift is starting to take its effect.  :)


"they just don't say who or what"

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm: I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff" maybe he learnt that one from trump I would say he learnt that from Sunni Islam in Saudi Arabia I doubt trump even knows what Sunni Islam is

No one knows what Sunni ISLAM 'is'.

Except, the followers of Sunni ISLAM.



To the followers of Sunni ISLAM,               Sunni ISLAM is the perfect expression of ISLAM.

Sunni ISLAM is Allah's perfect religion, as it was followed by Allah's messenger, Mohammed.

I speak as a Sunni moslem.         ;)



:D

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:13pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff. I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff"

You do know home invasions are mostly burglary right

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo.

I'm having a really hard time believing that booby.

Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:13pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. Its just stuff. I didn't know you considered your wife or daughter "just stuff" You do know home invasions are mostly burglary right

Actually it is mostly 'dealing' with the home owners, stealing is the least of the home owner's problems.

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D

Nice of you to turn up Smithy.

You've been away a while?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D Nice of you to turn up Smithy. You've been away a while?

just got back from camping this afternoon booby. you miss me?

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 10:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D Nice of you to turn up Smithy. You've been away a while? just got back from camping this afternoon Bobby. you miss me?

I missed you greatly sir Smithy.

Rather cold to be camping out right now.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:50pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D Nice of you to turn up Smithy. You've been away a while? just got back from camping this afternoon Bobby. you miss me? I missed you greatly sir Smithy. Rather cold to be camping out right now.

it was 26 degrees today ... certainly not cold up here

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:07pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:50pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D Nice of you to turn up Smithy. You've been away a while? just got back from camping this afternoon Bobby. you miss me? I missed you greatly sir Smithy. Rather cold to be camping out right now. it was 26 degrees today ... certainly not cold up here

Brokeback mountain is never cold.

rhino wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:07pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:50pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:35pm: I'd be OK - I'm a black belt in Judo. I'm having a really hard time believing that brave sir Bobby. Unless it was one of those dodgy turn up, pay the fee and collect your belt type of gigs. :D :D Nice of you to turn up Smithy. You've been away a while? just got back from camping this afternoon Bobby. you miss me? I missed you greatly sir Smithy. Rather cold to be camping out right now. it was 26 degrees today ... certainly not cold up here Brokeback mountain is never cold.

that must be where you go camping

No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus.

rhino wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:19pm:

No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus.

she wouldn't take you anyway rhino so you've no need to worry about it.

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:25pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:19pm: No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus. she wouldn't take you anyway rhino so you've no need to worry about it.

You misunderstood my comment. Lol. As if id have sex with someone dumb enough to marry you. I could get arrested for that.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 6:08pm:

Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims.

In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:30pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::)

First up you'll need a law degree to ensure you comply with all restrictions and precedents, lest you use too much force.

Then of course you will need an array of approve defensive weapons, once again, lest you use too much force.


They will have to wait until you have full assessed the situation,selected the appropriate defensive weapon.

And piece of p1ss, home defended in accordance with the law.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::) First up you'll need a law degree to ensure you comply with all restrictions and precedents, lest you use too much force. Then of course you will need an array of approve defensive weapons, once again, lest you use too much force. They will have to wait until you have full assessed the situation,selected the appropriate defensive weapon. And piece of p1ss, home defended in accordance with the law.

So, you agree that the Baron is bullshitting, BigOl64?

In reality all you need to do is prove that you feared for your or others' lives and that you were defending yourself/them from attack.   There have been several court cases which were won on that basis.

What you cannot do, is beat your assailant or imprison them.   The amount of force you use must be consummate with the force your assailant used and not be excessive.  You can even use a gun to defend yourself, despite what the Baron and other gun nuts would prefer you to believe.  Again, several court cases have been won, despite the use of a gun to defend the defendant against their assailant's attack post Port Arthur.

Brian is right. Just make sure when the home intruder is found dead from stab wounds that the knife is found in his hand and that he attacked you first with it.

You're all forgetting that punks have rights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buNwwAximcE

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:54pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:47pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::) First up you'll need a law degree to ensure you comply with all restrictions and precedents, lest you use too much force. Then of course you will need an array of approve defensive weapons, once again, lest you use too much force. They will have to wait until you have full assessed the situation,selected the appropriate defensive weapon. And piece of p1ss, home defended in accordance with the law. So, you agree that the Baron is bullshitting, BigOl64? In reality all you need to do is prove that you feared for your or others' lives and that you were defending yourself/them from attack.   There have been several court cases which were won on that basis. What you cannot do, is beat your assailant or imprison them.   The amount of force you use must be consummate with the force your assailant used and not be excessive.  You can even use a gun to defend yourself, despite what the Baron and other gun nuts would prefer you to believe.  Again, several court cases have been won, despite the use of a gun to defend the defendant against their assailant's attack post Port Arthur.

You are partially correct, in that in theory we can effectively defend ourselves, but the reality is not really.

As far as using a gun; forget it. If you are compliant with the laws governing gun ownership and storage, the home invaders will be all over you in a heart beat before you even prepped your weapon for use.

Like I said, you will need a range of approved weapons, in which to defend yourself, so you are compliant with the law. Too fkken bad if you can't work out if your weapon is excessive force or not. If it is excessive your are basically fkked under the law.

The law is definitely on the side of the home invader as the law is pretty implicit about excessive force by the home owner and the fact the law does not judge them kindly.


So forget about guns, the crims will probably have them but you won't be able to use your if in fact you have one; the police will have in cuff before you can explain anything about protecting your family. Like you say guns are NOT for protection.


The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes.  :)

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 12:02am:

Brian is right. Just make sure when the home intruder is found dead from stab wounds that the knife is found in his hand and that he attacked you first with it.

The one thing every home invader knows for sure about the average home owner, there will be no guns, unless they are bringing them.

The law favours the crim, have no doubt about that.

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 12:10am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:47pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::) First up you'll need a law degree to ensure you comply with all restrictions and precedents, lest you use too much force. Then of course you will need an array of approve defensive weapons, once again, lest you use too much force. They will have to wait until you have full assessed the situation,selected the appropriate defensive weapon. And piece of p1ss, home defended in accordance with the law. So, you agree that the Baron is bullshitting, BigOl64? In reality all you need to do is prove that you feared for your or others' lives and that you were defending yourself/them from attack.   There have been several court cases which were won on that basis. What you cannot do, is beat your assailant or imprison them.   The amount of force you use must be consummate with the force your assailant used and not be excessive.  You can even use a gun to defend yourself, despite what the Baron and other gun nuts would prefer you to believe.  Again, several court cases have been won, despite the use of a gun to defend the defendant against their assailant's attack post Port Arthur. You are partially correct, in that in theory we can effectively defend ourselves, but the reality is not really. As far as using a gun; forget it. If you are compliant with the laws governing gun ownership and storage, the home invaders will be all over you in a heart beat before you even prepped your weapon for use. Like I said, you will need a range of approved weapons, in which to defend yourself, so you are compliant with the law. Too fkken bad if you can't work out if your weapon is excessive force or not. If it is excessive your are basically fkked under the law. The law is definitely on the side of the home invader as the law is pretty implicit about excessive force by the home owner and the fact the law does not judge them kindly. So forget about guns, the crims will probably have them but you won't be able to use your if in fact you have one; the police will have in cuff before you can explain anything about protecting your family. Like you say guns are NOT for protection. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes.  :)

Self-Defence in Australia...

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 12:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:10am: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:47pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm: Quote: And if someone does get in? Comply says Mr Flavell. "Give them what they want.Don't engage with them.And whatever you do try to keep some space,such as keeping a table between you and them.And call for help as soon as it's safe to do so." racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto/news/what-to-do-in-a-home-invasion.html There you go the RACV say hand over all your stuff and let them have their way with your wife or daughter is that what they mean by comply. Once upon a time we were allowed to defend ourselves from home invaders, our politicians and leftists have turned us into a nation of victims. In a single word - "bullshit", Baron.  We are still allowed to defend ourselves.  The judicial system takes that into account if your home is "invaded".    ::) First up you'll need a law degree to ensure you comply with all restrictions and precedents, lest you use too much force. Then of course you will need an array of approve defensive weapons, once again, lest you use too much force. They will have to wait until you have full assessed the situation,selected the appropriate defensive weapon. And piece of p1ss, home defended in accordance with the law. So, you agree that the Baron is bullshitting, BigOl64? In reality all you need to do is prove that you feared for your or others' lives and that you were defending yourself/them from attack.   There have been several court cases which were won on that basis. What you cannot do, is beat your assailant or imprison them.   The amount of force you use must be consummate with the force your assailant used and not be excessive.  You can even use a gun to defend yourself, despite what the Baron and other gun nuts would prefer you to believe.  Again, several court cases have been won, despite the use of a gun to defend the defendant against their assailant's attack post Port Arthur. You are partially correct, in that in theory we can effectively defend ourselves, but the reality is not really. As far as using a gun; forget it. If you are compliant with the laws governing gun ownership and storage, the home invaders will be all over you in a heart beat before you even prepped your weapon for use. Like I said, you will need a range of approved weapons, in which to defend yourself, so you are compliant with the law. Too fkken bad if you can't work out if your weapon is excessive force or not. If it is excessive your are basically fkked under the law. The law is definitely on the side of the home invader as the law is pretty implicit about excessive force by the home owner and the fact the law does not judge them kindly. So forget about guns, the crims will probably have them but you won't be able to use your if in fact you have one; the police will have in cuff before you can explain anything about protecting your family. Like you say guns are NOT for protection. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes.  :) Self-Defence in Australia...

Reinforces exactly what I've been saying.


The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home.


It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol.

Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions.

The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes.


Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around.

rhino wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 11:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:25pm: rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:19pm: No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus. she wouldn't take you anyway rhino so you've no need to worry about it. You misunderstood my comment. Lol. As if id have sex with someone dumb enough to marry you. I could get arrested for that.

I understood your comment perfectly, you admitted to playing second fiddle.
It's OK to be gay rhino.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:50pm: It'ld be very fast and scary. I have a baseball bat in the bedroom, that might buy us time till the cops come. ;D ;D ;D Good luck with that. I had a 'home invader' a few years ago who tried to get in while knowing I was in here, and who must have known I'd called the police. He stayed a full half hour trying to gain access to the backyard where no doubt he was intending to smash in the backdoor with no neighbours watching. It took the police a good 45 minutes to arrive from the station that is only 5 minutes drive from my place. Message: Under no circumstances rely on your EMERGENCY PHONE CALL SERVICE DIAL 000 to save you from a desperate situation that requires an immediate response. Arm yourself with a gun ... a cross-bow ... a spear-fishing sling-shot ... any damned thing, and when the police finally arrive, tell them to go fack themselves. "A large man is trying to break into my house with violent intent, could you please send some police around to my place as soon as possible?" 45 minutes later these fackers arrive with donut sugar stuck around their mouths .. Useless as tits on a bull. If I'd had a gun, I would definitely have shot this fellow the moment he stepped into the house.

Get a better postcode, Herb. 

In my suburb if I called the police and told them someone cut in front of the line at the artisan bakery and got the last sour-dough that was meant for me, the riot squad would arrive within 90 seconds to ensure the suburbs decorum is maintained.

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 12:12am:

The law favours the crim, have no doubt about that.

Damned right ~ before, during, and after the event.

Gordon wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 8:42am:

Get a better postcode, Herb.

But I LIKE living here in the Trailer Trash Park down-wind from the Greater Metropolitan Sydney Municipal City Dump. It's an exotic location and a tourist destination where coach-loads of Japanese tourists come to click their cameras as proof that not everyone in Australia is riding high on the hog and the streets are paved with gold.  :P

Lord Herbert wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 8:46am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:12am: The law favours the crim, have no doubt about that. Damned right ~ before, during, and after the event.

If not the crim, then who does this favor.....you & me......the wife & kids???

[media width=625]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OQ_08hx4gY[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OQ_08hx4gY

Insane................

Gordon wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 8:42am:

Get a better postcode, Herb.  In my suburb if I called the police and told them someone cut in front of the line at the artisan bakery and got the last sour-dough that was meant for me, the riot squad would arrive within 90 seconds to ensure the suburbs decorum is maintained.

What a silly uninformed thing to say.

The car jackings & home invasions are in the best suburbs.
The thieves want BMWs & other luxury cars.

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 12:42am:

Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol.

Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::)

Mortdooley wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 1:00am:

Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around.

*SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen.

I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 8:46am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:12am: The law favours the crim, have no doubt about that. Damned right ~ before, during, and after the event.

Oh, darie, dearie, me.  Trolling again, Herbie?  Remind me, how old were you when you claimed you were a Metropolitcan Police Inspector before coming to Australia?  Nineteen, wasn't it?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 10:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:42am: Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol. Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::)

You will be arrested and charged - correct?

You will be forced to pay out of your own pocked your defence team - correct

You will need to "prove" to a legal standard that you "feared for your life or the lives of others" - correct


That is exactly what I fkken said genius.


And I would love to read the extract where the home owner had enough time to collect his weapon from the secured locker, assemble weapon (replace the bolt), open a separate secured container for the ammo, load it and legally 'protect' himself before the intruders got to him.

So yeah I would love to see or hear how that all happened, because it sounds like a load of sh1t to me or it happened before 1997.

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 10:20pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:00am: Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around. *SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen. I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::)

Not every wants to hug a vicious criminal and asked them if they are okay, even if you do.

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Gordon wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 8:42am: Get a better postcode, Herb.  In my suburb if I called the police and told them someone cut in front of the line at the artisan bakery and got the last sour-dough that was meant for me, the riot squad would arrive within 90 seconds to ensure the suburbs decorum is maintained. What a silly uninformed thing to say. The car jackings & home invasions are in the best suburbs. The thieves want BMWs & other luxury cars.

actually, they arent.

John Smith wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 7:53am:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:28pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:25pm: rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:19pm: No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus. she wouldn't take you anyway rhino so you've no need to worry about it. You misunderstood my comment. Lol. As if id have sex with someone dumb enough to marry you. I could get arrested for that. I understood your comment perfectly, you admitted to playing second fiddle. It's OK to be gay rhino.

Your partner is a man? Ok, Im out. Try pecca, hes currently conducting an online fantasy about gay sex in a forest. Kamahls licking his lips and offering to be 2nd man in.

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:43pm: Gordon wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 8:42am: Get a better postcode, Herb.  In my suburb if I called the police and told them someone cut in front of the line at the artisan bakery and got the last sour-dough that was meant for me, the riot squad would arrive within 90 seconds to ensure the suburbs decorum is maintained. What a silly uninformed thing to say. The car jackings & home invasions are in the best suburbs. The thieves want BMWs & other luxury cars. actually, they arent.

Jeez don't be telling booby that he'll have a 'vapour lock'.  :) :)




THE Toyota HiLux has topped Australia’s most wanted list among car criminals — and 40 per cent of those stolen are never found.
While car theft across Australia is the lowest since records were kept in the 1970s — and has been cut by two thirds from a peak of 142,000 in 2001 to 52,000 in the past 12 months — the rate of HiLux thefts is rising.
The number of HiLuxes stolen in the past 12 months is 10 per cent higher than it was the previous year — but the number of professional HiLux thefts is increasing at a greater rate, up 28 per cent.


Top 20 stolen cars by year model in the 2014-2015 financial year
Toyota HiLux 2005 to 2011 ... 732
Holden Commodore VT 1997 to 2000 ... 726
Holden Commodore VE 2006 to 2013 ... 717
Nissan Pulsar 1995 to 2000 ... 715
Holden Commodore VX 2000 to 2002 ... 561
Ford Falcon BA 202 to 2005 ... 541
Holden Commodore VY 2002 to 2004 ... 515
Hyundai Excel 1994 to 2000 ... 453
Toyota Hilux 1998 to 2004 ... 435
Holden Commodore VZ 2004 to 2006 ... 413
Ford Falcon AU 1998 to 2002 ... 413
Toyota Hiace 1990 to 2004 ... 374
Nissan Patrol 1997 to current ... 332
Toyota Hilux 1989 to 1997 ... 327
Toyota LandCruiser 80 Series 1990 to 1998 ... 316
Holden Commodore VS 1995 to 1997 ... 300
Nissan Navara D40 2005 to 2015 ... 293
Nissan Pulsar 1991 to 1995 ... 284
Ford Falcon FG 2008 to 2014 ... 281
Holden Astra 1999 to 2005 ... 260
Source: National Motor Vehicle Theft Reduction Council.


http://www.news.com.au/national/toyota-hilux-tops-the-list-of-australias-most-stolen-cars/news-story/47a34bad49320541742394003c9551e7

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:42am: Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol. Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::) You will be arrested and charged - correct? You will be forced to pay out of your own pocked your defence team - correct You will need to "prove" to a legal standard that you "feared for your life or the lives of others" - correct That is exactly what I fkken said genius. And I would love to read the extract where the home owner had enough time to collect his weapon from the secured locker, assemble weapon (replace the bolt), open a separate secured container for the ammo, load it and legally 'protect' himself before the intruders got to him. So yeah I would love to see or hear how that all happened, because it sounds like a load of sh1t to me or it happened before 1997.

You were in the RAAF.  Your exposure to firearms was at best, minimal, wasn't it, BigOl64?

Someone who practices a lot, knows how to assemble a firearm quickly, very quickly, indeed. I could assemble an L1a1 rifle from a base stripped down configure to be able to fire it in less than 15 seconds.  I could assemble it to be able to be a semi-automatic firearm in 45 seconds.   Add another 15 seconds to doing it in the dark.   I could still come close to that, despite not having handled one in over 20 years.  A bolt-action firearm is even easier to assemble, all you need do is place the bolt into the guides and drive it home.

As to Australian defendants successfully defending themselves, with a firearm, post Port Arthur, I'd recommend you do a Google search.  I won't do your research for you.    One case was in Queensland IIRC.   ::)   

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 10:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:20pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:00am: Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around. *SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen. I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::) Not every wants to hug a vicious criminal and asked them if they are okay, even if you do.

Never visited a prison, BigOl64?  I have.  Never met a sorrier mob of people in my life.  Even the so-called "vicious" ones.  I had a girlfriend once who was a criminologist.  She took me along on one of her visits ones.   Most interesting.  No hugging but I did shake hands with a mass murderer.   I didn't care how they were, I just was interested to see what interested my girlfriend.   ::)

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 10:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:20pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:00am: Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around. *SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen. I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::) Not every wants to hug a vicious criminal and asked them if they are okay, even if you do.

haahah

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:42am: Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol. Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::) You will be arrested and charged - correct? You will be forced to pay out of your own pocked your defence team - correct You will need to "prove" to a legal standard that you "feared for your life or the lives of others" - correct That is exactly what I fkken said genius. And I would love to read the extract where the home owner had enough time to collect his weapon from the secured locker, assemble weapon (replace the bolt), open a separate secured container for the ammo, load it and legally 'protect' himself before the intruders got to him. So yeah I would love to see or hear how that all happened, because it sounds like a load of sh1t to me or it happened before 1997. You were in the RAAF.  Your exposure to firearms was at best, minimal, wasn't it, BigOl64? Someone who practices a lot, knows how to assemble a firearm quickly, very quickly, indeed. I could assemble an L1a1 rifle from a base stripped down configure to be able to fire it in less than 15 seconds.  I could assemble it to be able to be a semi-automatic firearm in 45 seconds.   Add another 15 seconds to doing it in the dark.   I could still come close to that, despite not having handled one in over 20 years.  A bolt-action firearm is even easier to assemble, all you need do is place the bolt into the guides and drive it home. As to Australian defendants successfully defending themselves, with a firearm, post Port Arthur, I'd recommend you do a Google search.  I won't do your research for you.    One case was in Queensland IIRC.   ::)

Tsk, tsk, tsk resorting to demeaning me now is it.   ;D ;D ;D ;D


I do believe you stated you were a 'blanket counter' in the army, where as my trade was armourer, so let's not whip out the ruler too quickly there, champ.



Not bad being able to assemble a stripped down SLR:

1. Spring onto piston, piston into gas tube, gas plug locked into position, notch uppermost

2. Spring onto firing pin, firing pin into bolt, retainer into bolt & secure

3. Bolt into carrier, carrier into weapon, dust cover into weapon

4. Close weapon, careful not to catch 'rats tail'

5. Load magazine, fit magazine

6. Cock weapon, selector onto fire.


All in 15 seconds



If you don't have the evidence to back up your claim just say so and be done with it.

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:21pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:32pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:20pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:00am: Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around. *SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen. I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::) Not every wants to hug a vicious criminal and asked them if they are okay, even if you do. Never visited a prison, BigOl64?  I have.  Never met a sorrier mob of people in my life.  Even the so-called "vicious" ones.  I had a girlfriend once who was a criminologist.  She took me along on one of her visits ones.   Most interesting.  No hugging but I did shake hands with a mass murderer.   I didn't care how they were, I just was interested to see what interested my girlfriend.   ::)

wow, shook hands with a mass murderer. Brians experienced.

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:04pm:

John Smith wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 7:53am: rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:28pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:25pm: rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:19pm: No prizes for 2nd John ;) unless its your missus. she wouldn't take you anyway rhino so you've no need to worry about it. You misunderstood my comment. Lol. As if id have sex with someone dumb enough to marry you. I could get arrested for that. I understood your comment perfectly, you admitted to playing second fiddle. It's OK to be gay rhino. Your partner is a man? Ok, Im out. Try pecca, hes currently conducting an online fantasy about gay sex in a forest. Kamahls licking his lips and offering to be 2nd man in.

keep trying rhino ..... just like you do with your boyfriend.

rhino wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:32pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:20pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:00am: Bigol64 hit on the real defense to home invasions. The best protection against home invasion is wealth. Live in a good part of town away from the lower socio-economic filth that commits these types of crimes. Where you live and where you go has everything to do with how safe you are in life. No one around me seems to be dealing in drugs or illegal aliens so undesirables have little reason to come around. *SIGH*, while wealth may protect you, it also attracts those "lower socio-economic filth" to your address, as it is obvious you have more to be stolen. I find your characterisation of your fellow citizens as "filth", rather interesting.   It indicates your attitude towards them leaves a great deal to be desired...   ::) Not every wants to hug a vicious criminal and asked them if they are okay, even if you do. Never visited a prison, BigOl64?  I have.  Never met a sorrier mob of people in my life.  Even the so-called "vicious" ones.  I had a girlfriend once who was a criminologist.  She took me along on one of her visits ones.   Most interesting.  No hugging but I did shake hands with a mass murderer.   I didn't care how they were, I just was interested to see what interested my girlfriend.   ::) wow, shook hands with a mass murderer. Brians experienced.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

BigOl64 wrote on May 1^st, 2017 at 11:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:42am: Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol. Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::) You will be arrested and charged - correct? You will be forced to pay out of your own pocked your defence team - correct You will need to "prove" to a legal standard that you "feared for your life or the lives of others" - correct That is exactly what I fkken said genius. And I would love to read the extract where the home owner had enough time to collect his weapon from the secured locker, assemble weapon (replace the bolt), open a separate secured container for the ammo, load it and legally 'protect' himself before the intruders got to him. So yeah I would love to see or hear how that all happened, because it sounds like a load of sh1t to me or it happened before 1997. You were in the RAAF.  Your exposure to firearms was at best, minimal, wasn't it, BigOl64? Someone who practices a lot, knows how to assemble a firearm quickly, very quickly, indeed. I could assemble an L1a1 rifle from a base stripped down configure to be able to fire it in less than 15 seconds.  I could assemble it to be able to be a semi-automatic firearm in 45 seconds.   Add another 15 seconds to doing it in the dark.   I could still come close to that, despite not having handled one in over 20 years.  A bolt-action firearm is even easier to assemble, all you need do is place the bolt into the guides and drive it home. As to Australian defendants successfully defending themselves, with a firearm, post Port Arthur, I'd recommend you do a Google search.  I won't do your research for you.    One case was in Queensland IIRC.   ::)    Tsk, tsk, tsk resorting to demeaning me now it it.   ;D ;D ;D ;D I do believe you stated you were a 'blanket counter' in the army, where as my trade was armourer, so let's not whip out the ruler too quickly there, champ.

I was many things, including a Storeman.  One of my jobs was to run the Armoury.  So, lets not get too over-anxious.  I was also, for 12 months a qualified Rifleman in an Infantry Battalion before I got bored and requested a transfer to RAAOC.   Life was much more interesting and demanding there.   


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Not bad being able to assemble a stripped down SLR: 1. Spring onto piston, piston into gas tube, gas plug locked into position, notch uppermost 2. Spring onto firing pin, firing pin into bolt, retainer into bolt & secure 3. Bolt into carrier, carrier into weapon, dust cover into weapon 4. Close weapon, careful not to catch 'rats tail' 5. Load magazine, fit magazine 6. Cock weapon, selector onto fire. All in 15 seconds If you don't have the evidence to back up your claim just say so and be done with it.

Oh, yes, I really keep results from lessons I took and gave when I was in the Army 20+ years ago, BigOl64.  However, like most amateurs you've taken the textbook approach to the problem facing you.   In the infantry we worked things a little differently.

1. Place bolt into carrier, place carrier into body sides, close the lower body to the upper.

3. Place pre-filled magazine onto weapon, cock weapon.  Place selection lever to "R" (for Repetition), pull trigger.  Recock weapon.  Fire again.

When you have a chance, place the safety catch to "S" (for Safe),

1. Spring into gas cylinder,  Gas piston into gas cylinder.  Gas plug onto the cylinder end, notch uppermost.

2. You then "break" the weapon, place the dust cover over the working parts.  Turn the gas plug so the notch is upright if necessary.  Recock the weapon, carry on firing.

That way you have a functioning weapon faster than reassembling the entire weapon.   8-)

Brian Ross wrote on May 2^nd, 2017 at 12:02am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:18pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:42am: Reinforces exactly what I've been saying. The full weight of the police and the judiciary will be waiting for you if you kill or seriously maim a criminal in your home. It will cost you everything you own, including the home you tried to defend to keep you out of gaol. Bullshit.  Total and utter bullshit, BigOl64.  All that is required is an adequate defence lawyer and proof that you feared for your own life or the lives of others who were threatened and the court will (more than likely) find in your favour.   As I have pointed, there have been several court cases which were won, despite the defendent using a firearm to defend themselves, post Port Arthur.    ::) You will be arrested and charged - correct? You will be forced to pay out of your own pocked your defence team - correct You will need to "prove" to a legal standard that you "feared for your life or the lives of others" - correct That is exactly what I fkken said genius. And I would love to read the extract where the home owner had enough time to collect his weapon from the secured locker, assemble weapon (replace the bolt), open a separate secured container for the ammo, load it and legally 'protect' himself before the intruders got to him. So yeah I would love to see or hear how that all happened, because it sounds like a load of sh1t to me or it happened before 1997. You were in the RAAF.  Your exposure to firearms was at best, minimal, wasn't it, BigOl64? Someone who practices a lot, knows how to assemble a firearm quickly, very quickly, indeed. I could assemble an L1a1 rifle from a base stripped down configure to be able to fire it in less than 15 seconds.  I could assemble it to be able to be a semi-automatic firearm in 45 seconds.   Add another 15 seconds to doing it in the dark.   I could still come close to that, despite not having handled one in over 20 years.  A bolt-action firearm is even easier to assemble, all you need do is place the bolt into the guides and drive it home. As to Australian defendants successfully defending themselves, with a firearm, post Port Arthur, I'd recommend you do a Google search.  I won't do your research for you.    One case was in Queensland IIRC.   ::)    Tsk, tsk, tsk resorting to demeaning me now it it.   ;D ;D ;D ;D I do believe you stated you were a 'blanket counter' in the army, where as my trade was armourer, so let's not whip out the ruler too quickly there, champ. I was many things, including a Storeman.  One of my jobs was to run the Armoury.  So, lets not get too over-anxious.  I was also, for 12 months a qualified Rifleman in an Infantry Battalion before I got bored and requested a transfer to RAAOC.   Life was much more interesting and demanding there.    Quote: Not bad being able to assemble a stripped down SLR: 1. Spring onto piston, piston into gas tube, gas plug locked into position, notch uppermost 2. Spring onto firing pin, firing pin into bolt, retainer into bolt & secure 3. Bolt into carrier, carrier into weapon, dust cover into weapon 4. Close weapon, careful not to catch 'rats tail' 5. Load magazine, fit magazine 6. Cock weapon, selector onto fire. All in 15 seconds If you don't have the evidence to back up your claim just say so and be done with it. Oh, yes, I really keep results from lessons I took and gave when I was in the Army 20+ years ago, BigOl64.  However, like most amateurs you've taken the textbook approach to the problem facing you.   In the infantry we worked things a little differently. 1. Place bolt into carrier, place carrier into body sides, close the lower body to the upper. 3. Place pre-filled magazine onto weapon, cock weapon.  Place selection lever to "R" (for Repetition), pull trigger.  Recock weapon.  Fire again. When you have a chance, place the safety catch to "S" (for Safe), 1. Spring into gas cylinder,  Gas piston into gas cylinder.  Gas plug onto the cylinder end, notch uppermost. 2. You then "break" the weapon, place the dust cover over the working parts.  Turn the gas plug so the notch is upright if necessary.  Recock the weapon, carry on firing. That way you have a functioning weapon faster than reassembling the entire weapon.   8-)

First up I was pointing out to the people all the steps you accomplished in 15 seconds, just so they would know.


Also, you forgot your firing pin, or didn't you lot bother cleaning that bit?


This may surprise you, but 'running' an armoury is NOTHING like being an amourer. But thanks for the comment.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


I get how the army truly believes they are 'switched on' but where your world stops our only just starts. But thanks for the lesson in entry level weapons assembly.  :) :)

BigOl64 wrote on May 2^nd, 2017 at 12:13am:

First up I was pointing out to the people all the steps you accomplished in 15 seconds, just so they would know. Ah, but you assumed I was following the Pam on how to reassemble the weapon, now didn't you, BigOl64...   ::) Quote: Also, you forgot your firing pin, or didn't you lot bother cleaning that bit? The "firing pin" is contained in the Bolt (or "Breech block" to be technical).  We didn't take it out of the bolt for a basic weapon strip, BigOl64, which you, as an Armourer should know... [quote] This may surprise you, but 'running' an armoury is NOTHING like being an amourer. But thanks for the comment.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh, I am well aware of the differences.  I was thinking about becoming an Armourer at one point but it would have required another Corps change and I wasn't that interested in it.  "Running an Armoury" might have been different in the RAAF but in the Army it was doing many things from the most basic to the more complex.   I know how to strip and assemble a 106mm Recoilless Rifle, if you're interested, along with an L35a1 Carl Gustav RCL,  the M60 GPMG, the L4a4 Bren Gun, the L7 GPMG, the F88 Steyr, the M16, the F1 SMG and the L9 pistol.  I also know how to strip and assemble an Owen Gun (but that I gained through working at the SMR where they had one on the wall of the Range Control (quite illegally as it was still capable of firing).   I also knew how to account for all the hardware under my control.


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I get how the army truly believes they are 'switched on' but where your world stops our only just starts. But thanks for the lesson in entry level weapons assembly.  :) :)

Believe what you like, BigOl64.   I know my experience is very different to your own.  My "world" never stopped and ran 24x7, 365 days a year - that was what I was paid for.

who cares brian, you shook hands with an actual mass murderer thats the important thing. And you had a girlfriend who was a criminologist, wow. well she had a criminology degree anyway, lets not split hairs.

rhino wrote on May 2^nd, 2017 at 1:07am:

who cares brian, you shook hands with an actual mass murderer thats the important thing. And you had a girlfriend who was a criminologist, wow. well she had a criminology degree anyway, lets not split hairs.

Yes, we are suitable impressed.

rhino wrote on May 2^nd, 2017 at 1:07am:

who cares brian, you shook hands with an actual mass murderer thats the important thing. And you had a girlfriend who was a criminologist, wow. well she had a criminology degree anyway, lets not split hairs.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh,dearie, dearie, me.  So many assumptions tehre, Rhino, just so many.  Run along now, your playfriends are calling for you in the schoolyard.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 2^nd, 2017 at 7:51am:

rhino wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 1:07am: who cares brian, you shook hands with an actual mass murderer thats the important thing. And you had a girlfriend who was a criminologist, wow. well she had a criminology degree anyway, lets not split hairs. Yes, we are suitable impressed.

Really? Wow!  Doesn't take much to impress you, Sprint.   Tsk, tsk, such schoolyard play you enjoy engaging with, hey?    ::)