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Title: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 10:59am
not sure what agnes will think I am bringing this personal problem I have to the tavern as I am not sure anyone give a poo on the rest of the forum.. so prefer to stick close to people who at least I feel have some empathy for myself.. without accusing me of being a VICTIM...
here goes.. I am looking for advice on how to deal with PAYBACK..oh if only I meant money. I have terribkle situation in my family right now and one is paying back the other by doing some very unkind ... what I consider to be awful things.. I am doing my best to pour oil on troubled waters but not getting very far with the person whos dishing it out....she has now blocked said person on f.book... it is now getting so out of control I am beginning to lose it...I am beyond sad over this... never ever thought one of mine would go to these lengths.... I can talk to one side but not the other she seems to have shut us all out... any ideas she has two small boys so no chance of me going over and banging the door down....[lease do n ot discuss this anywhere else.. thank you.. agnes disappear this if you are unhappy with it.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:37am
Mmm not sure if there is any easy way out of it.
My sisters family has a similar problem , large family but one of the daughter in laws hates another DIL's guts. They even had a large family wedding recently where the son (long time separated from the hated one but still on good terms) was the only member of the main family not invited. Really nice gentle sort of bloke who I am sure would have really been disappointed at being left out. Can you believe it! People are crazy! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:49am
Cods,
give Mick Gatto a call: |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Alinta on Apr 29th, 2017 at 12:14pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:49am:
:) I hadn't thought of Mick, but certainly along the lines of counselling/ mediation Cods. The parties may not agree to it, but at the very least, you could seek advice on how best you might influence a positive outcome. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 29th, 2017 at 12:45pm
Mick Gatto can solve any problem for a fee.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 12:46pm
I have battled a smiliar things cods..between my sisters. I can only go from my own experience and it was terrible, isolating and I think, cruel.. there was nothing I could do..so I did the only thing I could do..try to ignore. It is obvious that the one causing the unrest feels aggrieved, unloved, jealous etc..so you wont take that away by trying to reason with an angry person intent on getting even..just leave her be and in time she will calm down.
Just concentrate on the one who is taking all the aggro..talk to her support her..be there, call her...but most of all take care of yourself in all this, it can take its toll on you. You wont get her to counselling, she is too angry. In time you might. Time will sort this... time and taking a few very deep breaths..and ignoring the antagonist. She is hurt and most likely needs a good cry..to release all the tension |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:06pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 12:45pm:
bobby I would have posted this in the main forum if I wanted that advice....sorry I am not in the mood for wise cracks. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm
No disrespect to you girls, but I think this sort of behaviour is more a womans thing than a mans.
Men might have a bit of a blue but they don't tend to go on with it with this sort of childish stuff. They may just ignore each other for a bit and then move on! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:14pm Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
that is not all men btw..what about you know who..A? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:15pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:49am:
not helpful Bobby.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:22pm
my daughter the one doing all the pay back is in dire straights at this time...her marriage is borderline breaking down...she is extremely hurt and reacting as I think most hurt women react...it is now rumbling down onto to everyone...I can only think some of us born without a conscience or for that matter even dignity as what they do does themselves no favors at all...she has now blocked her sister on facebook...I dont even know if shes done the same to me I am afraid to check....I cant believe she is doing this to her good name....we can move on from these insults but we dont forget them....I have been to see daughter who is on the receiving end and she is doing quite well under the circumstances .. I explained to her there is not a thing anyone can do with someone who is so into her pain I can only guess she wants to make the pain worse....why else would you make such a bitch of yourself...
as you said Red just because you fall out with one partner... why lash out at the other what do they get out of it.. similar thing happening at home in family England..Mother and eldest daughter fight.. mother throws daughter out of home...and then turns younger daughter against her sister. everyone in the family is so scared of the Mother they all in turn ignore the oldest daughter... my daughter was over there late last year for a family gathering... and tried to get help the situation by telling the daughter to show up at the party...which she planned to do...when mother found out she went balistic...since then she has abused the hell out of my daughter and blocked her also from FB....all m y daughter wanted to do was help mum and daughter be friends.....but... the mother didnt want to know... so at least we know why everyone is scared of her... :( :( :( I am truly amazed at how many families are fractured today... I only have 3 and they have 2 each. so we are a pretty small group....I just feel the longer it goes on the the worse it will get....at the moment said daughter is in counselling....but god only knows what good that is doing. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:22pm Agnes wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
There is always an exception to every rule you reckon! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:25pm Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
oh i agree women are unforgiving and in this case appears to not even want to be moving on...... in fact her husband told us he cant even mention moving on without it causing all hell to brake loose... in this case she is dishing out so much punishment to say its left me in shock is putting it mildly.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:27pm
please guys dont mention that person in this thread I have had what I believe to be a rather mean PM this morning regarding said person...[who wasnt named btw].
but it was about ykh....so please I am in enough of a bad way.. thanks guys... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:28pm cods wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:06pm:
Sorry if the truth hurts. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:54pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:28pm:
I am letting you know, your trolling is not welcome in this thread. So stop. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:55pm Agnes wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
My lips are now sealed. Carry on. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:58pm
Thanks Bobs..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 29th, 2017 at 3:00pm
One of my sisters is like that.
Ride it out, support the one being attacked is about all you can do. Talk to the attacker and “you are all ganging up on me!” etc. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 3:00pm:
thanks one and all it helps talking about it./. I guess I am lookin g for the magic recipe and of course there isnt one I do hope it hasnt dragged up bad memories for anyone I forget sometimes I am not Robinson crusoe |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:29pm
no bad memories here..it took a long time to get over it properly but I am over it...I think I know who the mean pm nuisance is...delete his messages unread.. if you cannot figure out how to block just him delete them unread and report him to a Gmod..let the Gmod see his msgs first..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:31pm Agnes wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
sorry agnes will send a PM |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 29th, 2017 at 9:07pm Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
Yep. Women argue over the most trivial of things and make mountains out of molehills. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:40am
we do....its a fact dunno what the hell is wrong with us...
in this case its sheer unreasonableness just will not listen to anyone or anything.. I am sad to say she is medicating with alcohol..and of course wont admit it..its a real mess.....and I feel so helpless what she is doing is not healing she's destroying. no one can speak to her..... I guess this is the problem with all those who behave like this.... its all new for me...I am floundering. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:00am
Sorry to see you so distressed, cods. It isn’t your fault tho, this situation and don’t try to make it your fault. Stay strong so you are ready to help when you can.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:28am Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:00am:
thank you I am licking my wounds at the moment .. as a mum you cant help feeling the responsibility its comes with the job I think....the daughter that is being picked on is the one who does anything and everything for all of us shes there through thick and thin and doesnt deserve whats happening... the daughter being a cow is hurt she is badly hurt and shes lashing out at everyone but if I say anythign she shuts up or walks out my fear is for my grandsons who are living with it....so rather than make things worse I back off.. yet I am not convinced I am doing the right thing....as what she is doin g is getting worse........at least one of her boys will be spending the night with me to watch the final of MKR....she hasnt stopped him coming here so I say thanks for that.. if only she would talk.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:46am
I know.
All you can do is be nonjudgemental and supportive in whatever communications you have. Don’t cut off contact but don’t try to argue about the matter. Tell her you love her, finish all phone conversations, letters, emails etc. Bloody hard! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:49am
Advice :- all the problems come from females.
Ignore them, side 100% with the men. The females are crazed. It is pointless to try to 'make friends' with crazed people. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:22am
Ignore Sprint, cods. Not a clue.
e.g. McCoys and Hatfields. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Alinta on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:57am cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:28am:
Speaking as a total outsider to your situation Cods, I think you are "doing the right thing". I agree with what Monk has advised. Don't take the risk that your daughter may stop your grandson's visits by pushing her too hard to talk about the situation. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:05am
Yup, communication about neutral subjects is fine, says “we are here for you when you are ready.” Trying to talk about what is troubling her will just get the daughter to clam up.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:09am
the daughter being punished adores her nephews and likewise they adore her....so far it hasnt come to that.. but after blocking her on f.b.. I am wondering whats next...where do we go from here.......
being only 4 of us after their dad died I guess I have been like a mother duck keeping her brood together...and to have this split at this stage of their lives.. is hard to believe....but I will do my best I have been doing what angry daughter wants and butting out....but when I see her heading down this route I dont know??...as I said she is drinking each night and we know from experience she gets really nasty when she has had two or three...... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30am
You can’t help her until she wants to be helped.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:34am Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:30am:
exactly.. I was hoping maybe someone had an idea on how to get her to see reason and instead of pushing us all away hear what we have to say rather than dream up everyone is against her we are all judging her...which isnt true.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:00pm
You could try the Redneck approach!
A severe tongue lashing including telling her to grow up! Sometimes works. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:22pm
Yeah, bit like my business partner when reactive depression hit me:
Day 1: Take all the time, we are here for you Day 2: Can’t you snap out of it? Ah well, he is dead now, died late 2007. Weird, he was younger and fitter than me, never smoked, abstemious with alcohol and still died at age just 53 and here I am about to turn 70! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:45pm Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
ooooooooooo dont tempt me....my worry is the boys I wouldnt do anything to hurt them if I could I would land one on her....and the way she is right now she will take it all out on keeping the boys away.....which would hurt them as much as us.. so thats where it is.. I sent her a long email asking if we could meet and I could try to explain ourselves and let her know our concerns and worry for her.. no reply. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30th, 2017 at 1:12pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:49am:
Where are all the problems coming from? men, or women? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 30th, 2017 at 1:42pm cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:45pm:
Yeah proceed with caution then dont let her keep the kids away from you out of spite! What started the fued with her sister may I ask? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:17pm Quote:
probably women talking rubbish. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:25pm
If you can’t help don’t bloody hinder, OK Sprint? Bog off in other words.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:50pm Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
look it would take too long angry sister went with her family o/seas.. me and daughter took them to the airport angry daughter was very angry with husband before we left home and angry daughter was drinking...they caught the redeye to Singapore..so it was late.. airport almost empty very frosty all round.. during the course of their week away we were of course extemely worried angry daughter was using some not nice language and saying not nice things...anyway daughter thought she was picking them up on their returen. so she wrote to her sister and with the best will io the world she brought up the drinking issus.. we had not heard from them while away so had no idea what things were like.. but my daughter thought she was being helpful but instead she lit another fire which of course her husband caught the full brunt of.. I have said my piece on the text. ::)..she was not allowed to pick them up on their return and no contact since...which was the weekend before schools went back.. i did insist on daughter sending a sorry text saying she was out of line and just worried about her... but to no avail... I am afraid while she is like this nothing will get through to her....and I always say whatever you do leaves scars you cant undo anything |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:55pm
red we have been walking on eggshells for a while but we wer able to go there and talk and now my daughter is having a 50th birthday dinner fro all the family all paid for.. and shes not going... and the following week we are all going on a winery tour in Canberra for all her friends again all paid for but shes not going....
angry daughter and myself have organised the cake...we were going to pay half each its around the $275 mark but I will pick that bill up...so the ripple effect will rebound on her from what I can see.. an empty chair is always pretty obvious.... what she is doing wont ever be forgotten will it.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 30th, 2017 at 3:36pm cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:55pm:
Certainly not a good situation. So its the nice daughter who is turning 50 that isnt going to her own party? Not the angry one ? Very sad! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 30th, 2017 at 4:21pm cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 2:55pm:
Much better off without her. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:00pm
Facebook. Get them all off Facebook.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:06pm Why the hell would anyone get on it in the first place? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:12pm Aussie wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:00pm:
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
Facebook causes a lot of problems within families..I know. None of my family members on my Facebook list..only my 2 kids. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:04pm Agnes wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
It causes many problems for families, and for employees (many bosses monitor employees' pages as a matter of course). I've never understood people's fascination with it. You couldn't pay me to use Facebook. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:04pm:
Well it is a break away from forums... that is really its only saving grace for me..and I keep my list small and manageable.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:01pm Aussie wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:00pm:
You are banned Aussie and you know it.. I will reiterate what I have already told you.. you are banned until further notice.. do not post here until I pm you and advise you that your ban is lifted-- Mods and FD cc'd |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2017 at 10:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:04pm:
me either...cant stand it .. but the angry daughter works o/seas form time to time when she gets sent on postings...so its a way to catch up with a few folks in one swoop...daughter thats copping the flack is the one thats been blocked and she has now closed her account......stalemate....but all she was trying to do was help her little sister....but like a lot of things that get said on ozpol they get taken the wrong way stretched too breaking point and then all hell breaks loose.... and some people will not understand anothers point of view....so stubborn... it happens all the time.. as we now have one angry daughter paying back big sisters terrible boo boo 3 times. I am wondering what will be next.... if thats the end of it I will settle for that... birthdays next week end so still time for her to change her mind, but I am not holding my breath... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by mantra on May 1st, 2017 at 6:20am Agnes wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
I use it for family mainly AG and just a few selected others. If they're out of the country - it's an easy way to communicate with them. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 1st, 2017 at 7:16am mantra wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:20am:
its handy for all those travel pics......but thats about all. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 1st, 2017 at 11:31am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 4:21pm:
Hey, if she is NOT at the party, you can ALL have very good speeches about her . ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) now, that'ld be fun |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on May 1st, 2017 at 12:19pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 4:21pm:
Not sure if you are picking on the wrong daughter there, I think its the nice daughter's birthday and she isnt attending her own birthday which would be rather sad. Not sure what Angry daughter is doing? Then again I may have it wrong! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 12:37pm Redmond Neck wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 12:19pm:
Hope this is sorted soon and peace is restored in the family.. :-[ |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 1:33pm mantra wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:20am:
You are so right mantra..it was the only way I could communcate with my girl when she went away to the US.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 1:34pm
this is a serious and distressing matter for cods..lets keep that in mind.
Any insensitive comments will be removed.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 1:40pm cods wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 7:16am:
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 1st, 2017 at 2:48pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:31am:
I would if I thought it was funny...glad you find it amusing though...I would have started it a long time ago had I known that! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm Agnes wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:34pm:
dont worry agnes it takes all kinds dont forget.. her husband is having a talk to her tonight to see if he can change her mind before Sunday....so all Power to him....... I have got everything crossed.I mean she doesnt have to talk to her.. just eat! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 3:14pm cods wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Well hope he can change her mind cods.. and it would be a good thing for her to show up , just to make a point that she wont be intimidated and that this will not disrupt her life..I am sure this is what the other one wants.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Nom De Plume on May 1st, 2017 at 3:15pm
Ah! If only you had a crystal ball to see the back story which led to the rift, to know the suffering and insecurities which feed them. Tread softy good sir, question gently and reflectively. Act wisely, lest you are also moved to the outer circle
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Green Hornet on May 1st, 2017 at 3:33pm
Thread locked..I suspect troll activity.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Green Hornet on May 1st, 2017 at 3:40pm
I may have jumped the gun....unlocked for now
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 3:52pm
I think the problem has passed for now.. sorry to anyone who was trying to reply at the time.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 1st, 2017 at 3:58pm
who is the nubie??>..seems lost..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 1st, 2017 at 4:15pm Agnes wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Good on you Agnes. i delete trolls posts ASAP. they continue for a while, but give up and move on. I don't answer their question or give them any opportunity to continue trolling. they get nothing from me |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 6:35pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 4:15pm:
very wise Sprint... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 1st, 2017 at 7:07pm cods wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Anyones guess, seemed harmless enough though.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 1st, 2017 at 7:13pm
yes I thought that...and fresh blood is always welcome
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 1st, 2017 at 10:46pm Agnes wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:35pm:
Wise .......... well, more just a 'rude' response from me :-) Seems to be effective they are only trolls, they don't contribute positively. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:11am
the husbands talk with angry daughter didnt work....
its even gone further down if that at all possible... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Alinta on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:31am cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:11am:
So angry daughter will be attending the family function/s, but the birthday daughter will not ?????????? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 2nd, 2017 at 10:30am cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:11am:
Course it did not work.. Everyone's pandering to her and totally justifying her ways. She is getting what she wants, so she continues. Same as any troll |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:18pm Alinta wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:31am:
red got that all round the wrong way... doesnt look like angry daughter is talking to anyone right now....she explodes...doesnt matter what we say she twists it... it is what it is..... just not what I expected thats all.... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:19pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 10:30am:
thats easy to say .. she has two children 7 and 12 |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:39pm cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:19pm:
Not sure if I am right or not but I think these days kids rely on their parents for support more than the other way around (Baby sitting during school holidays etc) so hopefully she will come around eventually cods, whether its in time for her sisters party or not is another story! |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:54pm Redmond Neck wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:39pm:
I think the one acting up is jealous and she wants attention...well she is getting it with her current tactics and any attention is better that none at all...even negative.. I know someone like this. Ignore this person..and have a little celebration at your place for the birthday girl....I am going to miss my boys 21st and so upset about that, but will make up for it at another time soon. The whole family needs to totally ignore her until she grows up.. it will work. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 5:52pm
unfortunately there is more to it and its been going on since January only just now turned nasty with sister being spiteful to her older sister...... its taking its toll on me I can tell you...but like all families we will survive will we all be together well I wont give up up...
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:32pm cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 5:52pm:
they say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger but I just yearn for peace these days..good luck cods it is a tricky siutation and you will get through it...meantime a little bit of what you love might make you happy for a moment or two.. whatever that is? |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:59pm Agnes wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:32pm:
when you find it let us in on the secret.. I made cornish pasties yesterday and made a citrus cake today....I am thinking of making some cumquat scones... ;) ;) ;) anything to take my mind off it all. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 2nd, 2017 at 7:19pm cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:59pm:
I am so jealous.it is pasty and cake weather isnt it and I love home cooking-bet you are great cook cods-my kinda cook- I used to be a good cook so I was told then I became bored with it. ? How does that happen but it did. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 2nd, 2017 at 7:19pm cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 3:19pm:
she will use those to get whatever emotional gold nuggets she wants. I am with Agnes - unfriend her from your life. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 2nd, 2017 at 7:22pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 7:19pm:
now now Sprint ignore for a while is what I actually said-now back to the pasties- I made them once and they were pretty good as well, but I used packet puff pastry hope that still counts ;) |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 8:59pm Agnes wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 7:19pm:
not as good as my mum...you could smell her roast dinner all over the house.....to die for... I am so out of practice its not funny...when you have no one to cook for.. its why bother.. and no agnes our of a packet doesnt cut it..lol.. I used frozen for a while but went off it wasted far too much so its back to making my own.. if you have a food processor its done in an instant..... and its so worthwhile... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm
my plan is to make monks ginger cake have to buy the dates first..havent made boiled fruit cake since forever...wish I had monks energy and wish I had someone to clean up after me.. I am the worlds worst in the kitchen crap everywhere.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:14pm cods wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Damn, they still taste pretty good as far as a pastie goes.. maybe I can get your pastry recipe...and I needed a good excuse to get a decent food processor I think Monks kitchen accomplishments are only for the very very very hungry...and like you I love ginger and have been known to resort to ginger nut biscuits for a quick fix, so good and I think they have been stopped now but Honey Jumbles used to be one of my faves as well - I might give it a whirl as well.. that pud does sound good. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:30am Agnes wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:14pm:
I have a little trick with pastry agnes I always subsitute a bit of the marg/butter with lard.. about a qtr...depends what you use the pastry for the shorter the pastry the more lard...also a good pinch of salt the recipes dont call for salt in anything any more I always use it...in cakes as well..... old fashioned all this pc crap goes over my head. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:53am cods wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:30am:
I have never had much success with pastry and must admit just got it from the shops , pie weather ( cold for the last 3 weeks- love it) so I need a good shortish pastry recipe.. hopefully I can buy lard here and will add a bit of salt too. One more reason to love the cold weather,pies, soups, stew and hot chocolate...time for my morning cuppa now. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:51pm
try Coles...I have a very nice pastry for Xmas mince pies its just right for them.. but I cant use it for anything else.. too short...so find what you want for the use you want and stick with it...it can take a bit of practice...if I make a steak and kidney pie I never line the bottom of the dish no matter what you do it ends up soggy...and we all love our stk and kid pies..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:52pm cods wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:51pm:
Just got back from a bit of shop and I noticed yes they do have lard there, so pretty much good to go to go -we only have IGA and Foodland, but still, I priced a steak and kidney pie in a tin..my dad used to love them, and wow $13.00. :o It would have been so soggy..eww. Not sure which pie to start with...might be a fruit I think....apple and raspberry?... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:43pm
I have some good news.. well its a start I believe in the right direction my oldest daughter went to visit her angry sister this after noon and they talked well angry daughter did most of the talking I advised the other one to say as little as possible...but after an hour and a half.. they are back to being friends and she is going to the dinner on Sunday I am so happy..it was a good afternoon for them and I am sure both are relieved as I know if this didnt get resolved it would be a festering sore to carry around for a long time..
thanks to all who cared and took an interest...yippee I feel so much better.. the rest of the angst sadly is still there but at least the sisters are friends..and are there to help each other |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:58pm
That is wonderful news cods...such a relief for all concerned..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:15pm You have handed the victory to her. What a disaster |
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Title: Re: Post by cods on May 4th, 2017 at 8:19am wrote on : Sprintcyclist wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:15pm:
you dont know the full story sprint and I cant ell you on here......this has been going on since January with angry daughter and then my older daughter made a bad move and sent her sister a text while she was on an overseas holiday. referring to her drinking...older sister realised it was neither the time nor the place to do that...but of course too late angry daughter is like a time bomb waiting to go off at any time...and this was one of those occasions angry daughter is so distressed no one can talk to her we are all walking on eggshells because we cant give her an excuse to get even more angry.. my grandsons are now involved because when she gets upset she gets loud its a mess all round and the added angst with her sister was not helping thats why I asked for help in finding a way to solve this part at least.....its not about anyone winning or losing....its about keeping my family unit together..... thanks you for your interest sprint...if you knew the whole story you would understand better I realise that.....its is a small victory for m y family...I am so happy about that... yes still worried sick about angry daughter but I can now forget about this.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Alinta on May 4th, 2017 at 9:01am
Good news Cods......am happy for you and the family!!
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 4th, 2017 at 9:20am
thank you it helped to share that a little bit...there is no magic wand.. but in the end communication won the day.
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 4th, 2017 at 2:53pm cods wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:20am:
I believe in lots of communcation, will always save the day. When is the party again cods..? Sunday.. |
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Title: Re: Post by cods on May 4th, 2017 at 6:38pm wrote on : yep dinner in a nice restaurant all paid for just all family.. about 20 all up...I cant wait to see the cake me and angry daughter are paying to have it made two tier...pink and white with a cocktail glass and cute lady in it on top...I think she will be delighted.... I was prepared to pay for it all myself.. but I presume now it will be between us..lolol.. I have a gift for her and I am making up a survival kit bag as well for a bit of fun as its in a restaurant we cant make too much noise and or mess...ive giot her a el-cheapo self stick for her mobile camera so that should give her a bit of fun...along with some suppositories...lolol plus a tiara for the princess. |
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Title: Re: Re: Post by Agnes on May 5th, 2017 at 1:16am cods wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
That sounds like a great do...the cake sounds so pretty and sumptious, would love to see it.Pink and white always tastes delicious doesnt it lol. I just love raspberry.. she is going the lurve tiara, and the supossitories are a must I think...lol All that planning will not go to waste after all...happy times. |
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Title: Re: Post by cods on May 5th, 2017 at 7:10am wrote on : if i can i will post a pic agnes what the hell is going on with my posts....the top is disappearing |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 5th, 2017 at 4:10pm
I see that from time to time around the forum, I would say a glitch for sure, it happens to my posts sometimes as well.. :-/
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 5th, 2017 at 4:41pm
oh thats ok then... I thought it was me maybe half banned...lolol..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 5th, 2017 at 8:41pm
that will never happen cods..
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 6th, 2017 at 8:09am
nah didnt think so it did happen once before elsewhere... I think fd was tampering again...you know where he likes changing his system just to annoy us...
its like going to Woollies and they have changed everything and you give up trying to find your fav sauce......I mean Bunnings dont do that do they? you have to ask yourself WHY DONT THEY CHANGE ANYTHING... because it bloody works thats why.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 6th, 2017 at 1:14pm cods wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 8:09am:
Its always the way init...just when you get used to something the way you like it..bingo. I first noticed this when I was a teenager...my fave lipstick, which was a very popular colour , for no reason at all- discontinued. I was not happy, but how many millions of lippy colours were out there...but my fave, which was kind of sheer and very pretty..gone. As for moving things in super markets..drives me crazy, especially when I am in a hurry...and my pavlova is missing a vital ingredient, and we had a new manager recently who was also missing a vital ingredient.. to this day not exacty sure what it was..but it was a bit scary lol. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 6th, 2017 at 5:36pm
I bet your glad you dont live near aussie.....it could have been his brother.....the nitwit is busy dodging FACTS about his behavior in the things I hate thread...
have you noticed its always the worst behaved that refuse to see their own faults....how can he claim calling yadda yads is not OK>> but calling skippy skippppppeeeee and fd Effendi is ok because it fits with his mind which we know is in disarray he so often cracks up about someone on here.. whilst doing exactly the same thing....I am saying this because he cant post here.....and twist what I am saying to fit in with his agenda its time he took notice of the reason I dont go into relationships which appears to be on death watch. |
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Title: Re: Post by Sprintcyclist on May 6th, 2017 at 5:55pm wrote on : I don't read aussies posts at all. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Sprintcyclist on May 6th, 2017 at 5:58pm
cods
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cods - one of your setting in yor profile mayhave changed |
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Title: Re: Post by cods on May 6th, 2017 at 6:07pm wrote on : ok like what?? I never look so have no idea what I am looking for... maybe aussie is working on disappearing me like he does thread......ouch.......the top of my pages are missing should I report that it seems to only be happening in the Tavern... how important is the profile page??... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 6th, 2017 at 6:11pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 5:58pm:
I try so hard not too...he follows me around just waiting to make a negative comment about me personally.....he never fails...he has it in for me right now sprint it comes in waves.... he cant stand it I havent left PA>..it drives him mad because he thinks all they do is write about him in sparta......if he only knew.... ::) ::) ::) and they have brought up his controlling past.....oh boy...he hasnt changed much.... I used to have quite a bit of sympathy for aussie the way they ganged up on him.... but hes now knocked that out of me...and as you may have picked up even agnes has woken up.... |
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Title: Re: Post by Sprintcyclist on May 6th, 2017 at 6:18pm wrote on : Quote:
I have not read any of his or gregs posts for many months |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 6th, 2017 at 6:18pm cods wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:11pm:
If it has changed cods I have no idea how to fix it.. maybe ask Set see what he thinks..? Yes agnes has been awake for a while.. I just wanted to make the break..he is infuriating and he and monk a good match..I have no time for these 2 menaces anymore. Yes he does follow pp and its pathetic.. I was sick of having to cover for their stupidity constantly...they dont take responsibilty for themselves..Monk deleted a whole forum in a fit he has one day... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 6th, 2017 at 6:21pm
Aussie he only wakes up in the morning to fight with PAers another day, they make his sap rise.... ;D
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 6th, 2017 at 7:54pm
agnes I dont have any trouble with monk at all I thought he was doing a good job with his pub quiz thread...
what happened why did he go??.. I dont think he is as close to aussie as he once was....I havent seen the support he used to have for him in fact I thought he was more on the same lines as yourself.. waking up to aussie being a user... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Setanta on May 6th, 2017 at 8:25pm Agnes wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
They obviously saw you wearing and said to themselves, nup, can't have that! ;D Sorry AG. :'( |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 7th, 2017 at 2:12pm
just tried to split a topic.. :o has it worked
yes it did : [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 7th, 2017 at 2:23pm
wow you are clever agnes....I wasnt here at that time
oh you probably noticed...lol.. I have a pic of the birthday cake to show you but I might wait for a better one as its still in its box from the lady that made it.. it looks just like I want it too look so very happy....I am so pleased I am going to this dinner with an uplifted heart...it would have been awful the other way. thanks for caring and allowing me to bleat in the tavern |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 7th, 2017 at 2:40pm cods wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Bleat away..so happy everything has worked out for the best cods..so just go now and enjoy your day.. Dont forget the cake pic lol |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Redmond Neck on May 7th, 2017 at 3:01pm cods wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
I hope its not like the one mother in law bought for my wife on a special birthday! Cake like a big set of tits! ::) |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 7th, 2017 at 3:03pm Agnes wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
thank you.. the problems havent all gone awya just this extra one I didnt need....the other problems are bigger...but out of my hands sadly....we are having a 3 course dinner...so by the time the cake comes out we will only want to look at it......I have also made daughter a survival bag so I think she will get a laugh out of it..I hope so anyway.. will fill you in tomorrow.. I trust. its a bit like Bold isnt it left on a cliff edge.. :) :) :) |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 7th, 2017 at 3:53pm
Just go straight to the cake..I'm out for the afternoon..cheers..
Oh and the Bold and the Beautiful cant touch this stuff. lol |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 7th, 2017 at 4:13pm Agnes wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
well we dont have the marriage goround like they do... at least I dont know what you are up to down there ::) ::) I do know it aint nearly as exciting here. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 8th, 2017 at 10:33am
the dinner went off very well daughter had a great time very nice meal will try and get a pic of the cake for you...I am glad its all behind me I can now sleep without thinking if I have covered everything..I am a worrier like that
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 8th, 2017 at 11:23am cods wrote on May 8th, 2017 at 10:33am:
Sounded so pretty...look forward to it..anyway had a shiitty night and a semi busy day ahead. I hate dragging my feet around. but anyhoo... |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by cods on May 8th, 2017 at 11:50am Agnes wrote on May 8th, 2017 at 11:23am:
sorry you didnt have a good night...do hope it wasnt the forums fault.. |
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Title: Re: any advice.. Post by Agnes on May 8th, 2017 at 12:03pm cods wrote on May 8th, 2017 at 11:50am:
My fault entirely..argueing about stuff best not argued about..in the end it has no resolution and I am having a hiccup with my girl now. She is being a pain but nothing that cant be resolved. She has left home but thinks she is still my child, and is still paddling fast , easing into the wider world is a bit difficult for her. |
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