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Message started by Frank on Apr 25th, 2017 at 6:56pm

Title: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on Apr 25th, 2017 at 6:56pm
Hierarchy is a good thing and it is everywhere. It exists among cultures, subcultures, values, it is present in ethics, science.

The recognition of the hierarchy of cultures must continue to be encouraged and the better cultures must be supported and worse cultures discouraged and stifled, according to their harm.

Western culture is not perfect precisely because of its heteronomy and its openness: it cannot arrive at a perfect state because of its inherent curiosity, quest and love of life. It has no ideal state - and that's what makes it better than all other cultures.

This is an important thing to remember on Anzac Day and every other day of the year. We should actively spread the good news that is Western secular humanism, a grateful child of Christianity, a child that has now moved out but does, as it should, keep in close touch with its roots.







Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:06pm


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Culturalism now, Soren?  Tsk, tsk,  all cultures are essentially equal.  They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit.   No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time.  How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren?  Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Honky on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:32pm
yeah.  Except for the ones inequal and not getting along.



Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:06pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Culturalism now, Soren?  Tsk, tsk,  all cultures are essentially equal.  They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit.   No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time.  How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren?  Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created?   ::) ::)


While there may be no objective measure, that doesn't matter. Everyone judges. Everyone has their own interests and biases. People will form judgments anyway. Despite 40 years of dominating education and trying to eliminate judgement in this area, many people still judge. There's a lesson in that if you're willing to learn.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:06pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Culturalism now, Soren?  Tsk, tsk,  all cultures are essentially equal.  They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit.   No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time.  How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren?  Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created?   ::) ::)



You introduced the term Culturalism, fathead.

And cultures are not all essentially the same. You can judge a culture by the institutions it comes up with, the gods (values, ideals, aspirations) it creates, the standards it imposes, the opportunities it provides, the art it produces, the influence it has and how it achieves that influence.

Cultures are self-evidently not the same in any of these respects, or in any other, for that matter. It takes a militantly ignorant fathead to say that all cultures are essentially the same. The entire history of humanity is a history of the struggle of competing cultures.




Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on Apr 28th, 2017 at 2:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)

Wassup bwian no proof? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 28th, 2017 at 8:56pm


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk.  Such a waste of time and effort.    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Gordon on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Rhino on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:10pm
at least the trains would run on time.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:40pm
The future with Muslim immigration:

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2017/04/canadas-future.html

But she's got the hijab so she is OK. And sox and thongs, of course.
Electricity for an electric lawn mower is entirely optional, inshallah.








Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:18pm
In Sweden, only Swedes are not allowed to love their own country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdlurwg9eA

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on Apr 30th, 2017 at 1:02pm
LOL....  more crap bwian?  Really?
In a globalised world bwian the truth is much harder to hide.
One reason you keep falling flat on your bald faced lies daily.
Of course you'll claim you were unaware they were lies. :D :D :D
LIAR...
HYPOCRITE...

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 30th, 2017 at 11:42pm

Grendel wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
LOL....  more crap bwian?  Really?
In a globalised world bwian the truth is much harder to hide.
One reason you keep falling flat on your bald faced lies daily.
Of course you'll claim you were unaware they were lies. :D :D :D
LIAR...
HYPOCRITE...




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, still claiming I'm a "liar", Geoff but you've never, ever, presented any proof that I have "knowingly told an untruth".  I wonder why?  Could it be because in fact you're the one lying?   Naughty Geoff!   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 1st, 2017 at 4:31pm
Oh dear yes I have bwian I have directed everyone to read almost any of your posts... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2017 at 5:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

You are very Islamophile so I wonder who could be more pro-nazi here than you. You rail against every criticism of sharia, every criticism of Islamist ideology, every criticism of the backward ideology of the Koran enacted every day around the world. If Nazis were third worlders you'd be as pro-nazi as you are pro Islam. You could not say no to any third world ideology, custom, value, outlook no matter who barbaric.







Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 1st, 2017 at 10:33pm

Grendel wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 4:31pm:
Oh dear yes I have bwian I have directed everyone to read almost any of your posts... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You have yet to produce evidence that what I have typed as been the result of me "knowingly telling an untruth", Geoff.  Tsk, tsk.  No proof it seems.  You really are a silly sausage, you realise?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 1st, 2017 at 10:36pm

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

You are very Islamophile so I wonder who could be more pro-nazi here than you. You rail against every criticism of sharia, every criticism of Islamist ideology, every criticism of the backward ideology of the Koran enacted every day around the world. If Nazis were third worlders you'd be as pro-nazi as you are pro Islam. You could not say to any third world ideology, custom, value, outlook no matter who barbaric.




Oh, poor, poor, Soren.  I am actually very critical of fascism and Nazism.   However, that is before your time - or is it?  Are you actually defending the Nazis?  Tsk, tsk, next you'll be telling us that the Holocause never happened...    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 2nd, 2017 at 1:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grendel wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 4:31pm:
Oh dear yes I have bwian I have directed everyone to read almost any of your posts... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You have yet to produce evidence that what I have typed as been the result of me "knowingly telling an untruth", Geoff.  Tsk, tsk.  No proof it seems.  You really are a silly sausage, you realise?

Proof of your abject stupidity bwian...
Bwian still has nothing...

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 2nd, 2017 at 5:06pm

Grendel wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 1:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grendel wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 4:31pm:
Oh dear yes I have bwian I have directed everyone to read almost any of your posts... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You have yet to produce evidence that what I have typed as been the result of me "knowingly telling an untruth", Geoff.  Tsk, tsk.  No proof it seems.  You really are a silly sausage, you realise?

Proof of your abject stupidity bwian...
Bwian still has nothing...




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You have yet to produce evidence that what I have typed as been the result of me "knowingly telling an untruth", Geoff.  Tsk, tsk.  No proof it seems. That makes you a liar, Geoff.  Oh, and shouting about it doesn't improve the validity of your arguement.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Secret Wars on May 2nd, 2017 at 5:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 5:06pm:
...

Oh, and shouting about it doesn't improve the validity of your arguement.   ::) ::)



Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 11:04pm:
Poor, poor, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, he can't type now.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I feel so sorry for you, Soren.  I really do.  Don't use a spellchecker?  Don't check your messages to see if anything is misspelt before you post them?   All too hard, I suppose, in the heat of the moment, hey?   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:36pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

You are very Islamophile so I wonder who could be more pro-nazi here than you. You rail against every criticism of sharia, every criticism of Islamist ideology, every criticism of the backward ideology of the Koran enacted every day around the world. If Nazis were third worlders you'd be as pro-nazi as you are pro Islam. You could not say to any third world ideology, custom, value, outlook no matter who barbaric.




Oh, poor, poor, Soren.  I am actually very critical of fascism and Nazism. 



Not when it says Allahu Akhbar.

They you are as Nazi as can be.



Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:53pm

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:36pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

You are very Islamophile so I wonder who could be more pro-nazi here than you. You rail against every criticism of sharia, every criticism of Islamist ideology, every criticism of the backward ideology of the Koran enacted every day around the world. If Nazis were third worlders you'd be as pro-nazi as you are pro Islam. You could not say to any third world ideology, custom, value, outlook no matter who barbaric.




Oh, poor, poor, Soren.  I am actually very critical of fascism and Nazism. 



Not when it says Allahu Akhbar.

They you are as Nazi as can be.


Which translates to "God is Great", now doesn't it, Soren? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHY3SJ-YRr8

Somebody better tell the Christians that term is now a big, big, no, no, according to you.  Tsk, tsk. 


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 2nd, 2017 at 10:25pm
yes of course all those deluded Hillsong hippies are spreading 'round the world killing people aren't they bwian... :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
You are such a self deluded fool.
Stop wasting our time you idiot. :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 2nd, 2017 at 10:41pm

Grendel wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 10:25pm:
yes of course all those deluded Hillsong hippies are spreading 'round the world killing people aren't they bwian... :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
You are such a self deluded fool.
Stop wasting our time you idiot. :D :D :D


"God is Great", Geoff, remember that.  "God is Great!" is what those hippies are chanting.  Tsk, tsk.  Makes rather a mockery of Soren's point, now doesn't it?  "Allahu Akbar!"  "God is Great" but which God?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 2nd, 2017 at 11:02pm
Only in your mind bwian...  only in your mind....
As others have said...  bwian you need to do better. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 3rd, 2017 at 12:33am

Grendel wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:
Only in your mind bwian...  only in your mind....
As others have said...  bwian you need to do better. ;D ;D ;D




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Geoff.  Tsk, tsk. Why do you even bother?   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:20am

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:58pm

Grendel wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:20am:




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Geoff.   Still not getting the message.  Tsk, tsk.  Makes me wonder why I even bother, it really does.    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 10:36pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 5:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture.
Good or bad?


Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon.  I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here.  Tsk, tsk,  ::)

You are very Islamophile so I wonder who could be more pro-nazi here than you. You rail against every criticism of sharia, every criticism of Islamist ideology, every criticism of the backward ideology of the Koran enacted every day around the world. If Nazis were third worlders you'd be as pro-nazi as you are pro Islam. You could not say to any third world ideology, custom, value, outlook no matter who barbaric.




Oh, poor, poor, Soren.  I am actually very critical of fascism and Nazism. 



Not when it says Allahu Akhbar.

They you are as Nazi as can be.


Which translates to "God is Great", now doesn't it, Soren? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHY3SJ-YRr8

Somebody better tell the Christians that term is now a big, big, no, no, according to you.  Tsk, tsk. 



Allah is not the same god these guys are singing about.

Don't be daft.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 3rd, 2017 at 11:04pm

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Allah is not the same god these guys are singing about.

Don't be daft.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Still not getting the message.  Tsk, tsk.  Makes me wonder why I even bother, it really does.   Islam is an Abrahamic religion, at it's heart, Soren, it draws on the same traditions and has the same prophets:


Quote:
Muslims believe that there were many other prophets before Muhammad, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus. They believe that all these prophets were given messages by God of the oneness of God to their communities at different times in history of mankind,

[url=https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam]Source[/url]

They would differ with you, Soren about which God they worship.

However, that is by, the by.   What is important that they are both saying the same thing, "Allahu Akbar!" "God is Great!"

Time you improved your Islamic studies, if you want to keep your Madrasah certificate...   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2017 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 11:04pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Allah is not the same god these guys are singing about.

Don't be daft.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.   Still not getting the message.  Tsk, tsk.  Makes me wonder why I even bother, it really does.   Islam is an Abrahamic religion, at it's heart, Soren, it draws on the same traditions and has the same prophets:


Quote:
Muslims believe that there were many other prophets before Muhammad, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus. They believe that all these prophets were given messages by God of the oneness of God to their communities at different times in history of mankind,

[url=https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam]Source[/url]

They would differ with you, Soren about which God they worship.

However, that is by, the by.   What is important that they are both saying the same thing, "Allahu Akbar!" "God is Great!"

Time you improved your Islamic studies, if you want to keep your Madrasah certificate...   ::)

Allah is not the same god as Abraham' of Jesus's god. It is plain to see from the fruits of their respective believers.

Mohammed invented a completely untenable connection to Abraham. The Koran is utter jibberish (as usual) when it comes to Biblical connections and lineages.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 4th, 2017 at 10:58pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Allah is not the same god as Abraham' of Jesus's god. It is plain to see from the fruits of their respective believers.

Mohammed invented a completely untenable connection to Abraham. The Koran is utter jibberish (as usual) when it comes to Biblical connections and lineages.


It matters not, Soren.  The Muslims believe that they worship the same God and that is all that matters in the end.   You may feel they aren't worshipping the same God but who cares what you think?  You're an Islamophobe and therefore unimportant in the overall scheme of things.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 5th, 2017 at 12:19pm
Untrue....  some people say they are the same God....  most Muslims I know do not...  they state that Christ is not God nor the Son of God only a prophet they state he did not rise after death, and that God is a single entity and not a Triumvirate or 3 personed God or if you like...  The Holy Trinity.


Hmmm and you claim to be a Dr of Divinity....  is that a certificate for Divining water perhaps?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Nom De Plume on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 5th, 2017 at 2:58pm
Hmmm  look around me....

I see conflict every day bwian....  where do you live again?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 5th, 2017 at 8:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Allah is not the same god as Abraham' of Jesus's god. It is plain to see from the fruits of their respective believers.

Mohammed invented a completely untenable connection to Abraham. The Koran is utter jibberish (as usual) when it comes to Biblical connections and lineages.


It matters not, Soren.  The Muslims believe that they worship the same God and that is all that matters in the end.   You may feel they aren't worshipping the same God but who cares what you think?  You're an Islamophobe and therefore unimportant in the overall scheme of things.   ::) ::)

Maybe to you it is only what Muslims believe that matters.

For the rest of us there is more to life than submitting to the idiocy of an illiterate trader turned warlord.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 5th, 2017 at 11:14pm

Frank wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Allah is not the same god as Abraham' of Jesus's god. It is plain to see from the fruits of their respective believers.

Mohammed invented a completely untenable connection to Abraham. The Koran is utter jibberish (as usual) when it comes to Biblical connections and lineages.


It matters not, Soren.  The Muslims believe that they worship the same God and that is all that matters in the end.   You may feel they aren't worshipping the same God but who cares what you think?  You're an Islamophobe and therefore unimportant in the overall scheme of things.   ::) ::)

Maybe to you it is only what Muslims believe that matters.

For the rest of us there is more to life than submitting to the idiocy of an illiterate trader turned warlord.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, what you think is immaterial to this issue, Soren.  You're mentally ill with Islamophobia.    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 6th, 2017 at 9:07am
Oh no not Islamaphobia again.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
psst bwian.
It's not a winning argument buddy. :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 6th, 2017 at 12:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
You're mentally ill with Islamophobia.    ::)

;D ;D ;D

You sound like the Stalinist you are - any opposing ideas are sign of 'mental illness'. You 'progressives' are the proud heirs to the totalitarian mindset, with your constant 'islamophobia' mongering.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 6th, 2017 at 1:28pm
The Great Multicultural Fraud
To call Australia "multicultural" is a misnomer. To illustrate the point we can compare culture with language. Australia's language is English, both in the official sense and in the practical sense. There are, however, some people in Australia who speak another language as their "first" language, so in a pedantic sense the country could be termed "multilingual" (but which would infer that most Australians are everyday speakers of foreign languages). Yet, only an idiot would seriously describe Australia as "multilingual": it is an "English speaking country" which happens to have a small minority of people who speak other languages (with only an extremely small minority who can't speak English at all). So it is with culture: the vast majority of Australians adhere to the Australian culture (even fewer are those who adhere solely to another culture).

Don't be misled by statistics of "ethnic background": the vast majority of the Australian-born (second generation, third generation, or whatever) are Australians, who are part of the Australian culture; some may be raised in such a way as to be imbued with aspects of another culture, but that does not change the overall picture: we share (broadly) the same way of life; speak the same language; relate to the same national icons; operate under the same cultural mode of everyday behaviour; and we live in, and enjoy, the same country. Culturally, most Australians are just that: Australian.

A survey conducted for the Office of Multicultural Affairs revealed some interesting results: that only 9% of Australians considered themselves to belong to a non-Australian ethnic or cultural group (2% of which were "British"), with only 3% actually being members of "an organised group with ethnic affiliations". It was also shown that "only a quarter of the second generation sample saw themselves as belonging to an ethnic group as did just under a third of the first-generation group. The only sub-sample where more than half identified with an ethnic group was the recent arrivals."(72)

Thus, most migrants can be viewed in a different light to that being shown by the multicultural lobbyists, that despite being statistically classified as being of "ethnic background", many have adopted the Australian culture as their own and often have become virtually indistinguishable from the native-born. Of course, many are unable to assimilate so easily, either because they come from a culture that cannot adapt readily to ours, or because they have fallen into the clutches of Political Multiculturalism which demands that they don't assimilate.(73)

The fact is that Australia is not a multicultural country. To use an analogy, it can readily be seen that a white dog, with a pink tongue and black paws, would only seriously be described as "multicoloured" by an idiot, or someone with an ulterior motive; so it is with multiculturalism: there is an ulterior motive behind the push to call Australia "multicultural". The reasoning is that if Australia is called "multicultural" (which would imply that most Australians are everyday practitioners of foreign cultures), that the entire country will be perceived to be, as a whole, "multicultural" (no matter what the reality is); that, if this country is "multicultural", we therefore need "multicultural policies", that therefore we need "multiculturalism", which will then be used to turn Australia "on its head" to produce a multiculturalist, internationalist society.

The phase so often used by multiculturalists, that "Australia is a multicultural society" is a cleverly constructed political phrase that is used to justify Political Multiculturalism. Despite its pretensions to moral grandeur; multiculturalism is simply a political ideology, pushed by internationalists and small "l" liberals, that is dangerous and destructive, and promises only one end for our country: the death of the Australian culture and our national identity.

Australia is not a "multicultural society", it is a monocultural society with some ethnic minority cultures at its edges, or to be more succinct, Australia is a "core-culture society". The term "multicultural society" implies that the entirety of our society is multicultural, which is far from the truth, and is a term used in support of a political ideology. The term "core-cultural society" is a far more accurate and truthful description of the Australian nation.

As Brian Bullivant has warned, "We have become so accustomed to the regularly parroted assertion, 'Australia is a multicultural society', that there is a considerable risk of assuming that such a society exists." (74)

http://www.ironbarkresources.com/mc/mc13.htm

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2017 at 3:11pm

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 12:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
You're mentally ill with Islamophobia.    ::)

;D ;D ;D

You sound like the Stalinist you are - any opposing ideas are sign of 'mental illness'. You 'progressives' are the proud heirs to the totalitarian mindset, with your constant 'islamophobia' mongering.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk, ad hominem arguments again, Soren?   Such a silly sausage.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Nom De Plume on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 6th, 2017 at 5:04pm
my bet is YES....  he does it frequently.... in hopes the questioner will give up. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 12:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
You're mentally ill with Islamophobia.    ::)

;D ;D ;D

You sound like the Stalinist you are - any opposing ideas are sign of 'mental illness'. You 'progressives' are the proud heirs to the totalitarian mindset, with your constant 'islamophobia' mongering.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Tsk, tsk, ad hominem arguments again, Soren?   Such a silly sausage.   ::) ::)



Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.







Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Nom De Plume on May 7th, 2017 at 5:42am

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)


There was once a time, be it as Sappho or as Nom De Plume, when you would honour me with a considered response.

Moreover, the questions are valid, relevant and on topic, as is my habit.   

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 7th, 2017 at 10:16am
Yawning
Name calling
Ridicule
Libel
Lies
Hypocrisy
are all bwian's habits....

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 7th, 2017 at 4:44pm

Nom de Plume wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)


There was once a time, be it as Sappho or as Nom De Plume, when you would honour me with a considered response.

Moreover, the questions are valid, relevant and on topic, as is my habit.   



Sorry.  Are you suffering from Attention Deficit Disorder?   I answer the posts I chose to, not because some person demands I answer them.   So, run along and annoy someone else for a change.   If you do post something interesting, I'm sure I will read it, somewhere.    ::)


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Nom De Plume on May 7th, 2017 at 5:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 4:44pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)


There was once a time, be it as Sappho or as Nom De Plume, when you would honour me with a considered response.

Moreover, the questions are valid, relevant and on topic, as is my habit.   



Sorry.  Are you suffering from Attention Deficit Disorder?   I answer the posts I chose to, not because some person demands I answer them.   So, run along and annoy someone else for a change.   If you do post something interesting, I'm sure I will read it, somewhere.    ::)


I have upset you, which was not my intention, so I will leave you in peace. Take care BR.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Aussie on May 7th, 2017 at 5:43pm

Nom de Plume wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)


There was once a time, be it as Sappho or as Nom De Plume, when you would honour me with a considered response.

Moreover, the questions are valid, relevant and on topic, as is my habit.   


So....why the sock, Sappho?  I nailed you within a few posts.

I see you are up to your usual game of patting yourself on the back.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Nom De Plume on May 7th, 2017 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on May 5th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Grendel wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
So bwian....  all cultures are essentially equal are they.
Prove it. :D :D :D


Look around you, Geoff.  Look around you, with an honest eye.   All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.    ::)


I don't know what you mean Brain Ross. What is the quality of sameness to which you refer? How is it measured?

I see the world in great cultural conflict ATM, with political super powers threatening or engaging military action. 


Are you ignoring me?


Are you worth noticing?   ::)


There was once a time, be it as Sappho or as Nom De Plume, when you would honour me with a considered response.

Moreover, the questions are valid, relevant and on topic, as is my habit.   


So....why the sock, Sappho?  I nailed you within a few posts.

I see you are up to your usual game of patting yourself on the back.


Because I couldn't logon as Sappho. It had been so long that I had forgotten my details

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 13th, 2017 at 9:27am
The PC barbarians are at it again:


Magazine editor quits after outrage over column saying he doesn’t believe in cultural appropriation
Sebastian Leck, Thursday, May 11, 2017

The editor of the Writers’ Union of Canada’s magazine has resigned after complaints over an article he wrote in which he said he doesn’t believe in cultural appropriation.

Hal Niedzviecki, editor of Write — a publication for the union’s members — published an opinion piece in the spring 2017 issue titled “Writer’s Prompt.” In the article, in an issue dedicated to indigenous writing, Niedzviecki wrote: “In my opinion, anyone, anywhere, should be encouraged to imagine other peoples, other cultures, other identities.

“I’d go so far as to say there should even be an award for doing so — the Appropriation Prize for best book by an author who writes about people who aren’t even remotely like her or him.”

He went on to argue that Canadian literature remains “exhaustingly white and middle class” because writers are discouraged from writing about people and places they don’t know.

A sociological term, cultural appropriation is used to describe the adoption of elements or practices of one cultural group by members of another.

On Wednesday, the Writer’s Union of Canada issued an apology for the piece, announcing Niedzviecki’s resignation and pledging to review the magazine’s policies.

“The Writer’s Prompt piece offended and hurt readers, contributors to the magazine and members of the editorial board,” said the statement. “We apologize unequivocally. We are in the process of contacting all contributors individually.

“The intention behind the magazine is to offer space for honest and challenging discussion and to be sincerely encouraging to all voices. The Union recognizes that intention is not enough, and that we failed in execution in this instance.

“We offer the magazine itself as a space to examine the pain this article has caused, and to take this conversation forward with honesty and respect,” the statement concluded.

Neither Niedzviecki nor John Degen, the executive director of the Writers’ Union of Canada, responded to repeated requests for comment Wednesday.

Social media backlash against the piece began Tuesday from Write contributors and members of the Writer’s Union. Alicia Elliott, an indigenous Tuscarora author of a piece published in the same issue, tweeted out photos of Niedzviecki’s op-ed and said she was happy to receive her copy of the magazine “until I saw this.”

“It felt like an intimate betrayal,” she said. Niedzvieki had edited her own piece about cultural appropriation, which Elliott said made it “especially hurtful.”
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/arts/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/arts/magazine-editor-quits-after-writing-that-he-doesnt-believe-in-cultural-appropriation




The lunacy of this is unbelievable - they SAY they offer space for honest honest discussion and encourage all voices - but of course they mean all PC voices.

Cultural appropriation - what a load of mindless (or is it deliberate?) sh!t.  Can people really be so stupid s to honestly believe in 'cultural appropriation' as a bad and 'hurtful' thing?? The mind boggles.




Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Lord Herbert on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Agatha on May 13th, 2017 at 10:30pm
70-year-old woman prosecuted for hate speech
Published May 12, 2017 at 10:12
A 70 year old woman in Dalarna prosecuted for hate speech since on Facebook she objected to immigrants defecating on the streets, writes DT.se.


According to the prosecution, the woman via Facebook has written disparagingly of people with a foreign background.

In a post from 2015, she wrote that immigrants 'burn cars and urinate and defecate on the streets."  This violates the law on incitement to racial hatred, according to the prosecutor.  The accused woman admitted that she wrote the post but denied that she committed a criminal act.

The penalty for incitement to racial hatred is imprisonment not exceeding two years or, for petty offenses, fines. If the offense is considered to be grave sentenced the defendants to prison terms of between six months and four years.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 16th, 2017 at 4:04pm
Then YOU lost it decades ago bwian.... :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?    ::) ::)

Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 16th, 2017 at 11:22pm

Frank wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?    ::) ::)

Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, I'm sorry if you can't work it out...   ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 17th, 2017 at 6:48am

Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:22pm:

Frank wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?    ::) ::)

Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, I'm sorry if you can't work it out...   ::)

;D ;D

No, I can't work it out. Only you used ad hominem in the above posts.




Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 17th, 2017 at 9:46am
Meh....  bwian is a lying hypocrite...  do you actually expect honesty?

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 17th, 2017 at 10:15pm

Grendel wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:46am:
Meh....  bwian is a lying hypocrite...  do you actually expect honesty?

No. I do not expect honesty.

I expect Brian to prove me wrong. And if he cannot, I expect everyone to see that he has been dishonest and/or ignorant.

Brian is the embodiment of a type that must be resisted and countered all the time. This is a very small but very useful arena to get to know the mindset of what he embodies and represents and to practice effective counterarguments against the toxic ideology he represents.

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:48am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:22pm:

Frank wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:49am:

Frank wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 6:53pm:
Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of   Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.


Correct.

Brian is obviously in lock-step with the Russians who used to transfer dissidents to lunatic asylums where they would wrap them naked in soaking-wet sheets which they would then leave to slowly shrink as they dried out ....

Water-boarding has nothing on this particular modus operandi for teasing out full cooperation from their ... er ... 'clients'.




Keep using ad hominem, Herbie.  It adds nothing to your trolling, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?

Your bandying of 'Islamophobia' is ad hominem of the worst kind, Brian.

Accusing critics of Islam of a mental disorder is very Stalinist and you are very Stalinist. You are simply unable to counter any and all criticism of Islam so you simply yawn and declare it all 'Islamophobia'.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?    ::) ::)

Where is the ad hominem, Brian, other than from you?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, I'm sorry if you can't work it out...   ::)

;D ;D

No, I can't work it out. Only you used ad hominem in the above posts.


Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.






Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)



You are now cowering, Brian, we all see it. You assert 'ad hominem' and when challenged you label the challenge itself 'ad hominem'. When laughed at for doing this, you yawn and call it - er... - 'ad hominem'.

And to think that you are a Doctor of Divinity, supposedly articulate and intellectually agile. But no. Your intellectual range is between yawning and saying tsk, tsk.  You are a Doctor of Yawning TskTsk.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm

Frank wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)


You are now cowering, Brian, we all see it. You assert 'ad hominem' and when challenged you label the challenge itself 'ad hominem'. When laughed at for doing this, you yawn and call it - er... - 'ad hominem'.

And to think that you are a Doctor of Divinity, supposedly articulate and intellectually agile. But no. Your intellectual range is between yawning and saying tsk, tsk.  You are a Doctor of Yawning TskTsk.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 18th, 2017 at 10:15pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:D :D :D :D :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We all know when YOU start with the yawns and name calling bwian...  you have no argument. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 19th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Frank wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)


You are now cowering, Brian, we all see it. You assert 'ad hominem' and when challenged you label the challenge itself 'ad hominem'. When laughed at for doing this, you yawn and call it - er... - 'ad hominem'.

And to think that you are a Doctor of Divinity, supposedly articulate and intellectually agile. But no. Your intellectual range is between yawning and saying tsk, tsk.  You are a Doctor of Yawning TskTsk.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)



It's too easy to show you up for the silly old fool you are, Brian.


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 20th, 2017 at 12:37am

Frank wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Frank wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Your agreement with Herbie is ad hominem, Soren.  Tsk, tsk,  ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You poor little old demented milk monitor. On your Zimmer frame.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)


You are now cowering, Brian, we all see it. You assert 'ad hominem' and when challenged you label the challenge itself 'ad hominem'. When laughed at for doing this, you yawn and call it - er... - 'ad hominem'.

And to think that you are a Doctor of Divinity, supposedly articulate and intellectually agile. But no. Your intellectual range is between yawning and saying tsk, tsk.  You are a Doctor of Yawning TskTsk.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)


It's too easy to show you up for the silly old fool you are, Brian.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren, can't you realise that your ad hominem arguments indicate you've lost the debate?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 21st, 2017 at 11:49am
LOST THE ARGUMENT AGAIN EH BWIAN....  tsk, tsk, tsk....  oh dearie dearie me....

Come on bwian, 90% of what you write these days is ad hom...  just flaming the person who nailed you...  YOU have NOTHING to add to the debate here....  back to your empty nest with you... :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 27th, 2017 at 10:57am

There are those from the “open borders” movement who believe we should open our home to the world. They argue that borders are racist. That saying Europe is the home of the Europeans is racist. They suggest that we in Europe owe the world. That we should be punished for colonialism. Or the Holocaust.

They imply that we are slightly boring societies with something lacking at our heart. As though the culture of Goethe and Bach, Rousseau, Voltaire and Dante could do with some sprucing up.

Incidentally, nobody ever argues for the reverse. No one ever says Pakistan or Eritrea are boring and could do with an injection of millions of French or British people. Well, they did once. But we had a word for that, and we don’t regard it as a term of flattery now.

Douglas Murray

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm
Except the immigrants come to Europe out of desperation, Soren, whereas the Imperialists went to India or Pakistan or Bangladesh or most of Africa or most of Asia or the New World or Oceania out of greed and a desire to dominate.   Tsk, tsk, I am not surprised that you cannot differentiate the two.  It is typical of your sort of thinking, now isn't it, Soren?    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 27th, 2017 at 7:41pm
Immigrants bwian?
Really? :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Frank on May 27th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Except the immigrants come to Europe out of desperation, Soren, whereas the Imperialists went to India or Pakistan or Bangladesh or most of Africa or most of Asia or the New World or Oceania out of greed and a desire to dominate.   Tsk, tsk, I am not surprised that you cannot differentiate the two.  It is typical of your sort of thinking, now isn't it, Soren?    ::)


Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Brian Ross on May 27th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Frank wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Except the immigrants come to Europe out of desperation, Soren, whereas the Imperialists went to India or Pakistan or Bangladesh or most of Africa or most of Asia or the New World or Oceania out of greed and a desire to dominate.   Tsk, tsk, I am not surprised that you cannot differentiate the two.  It is typical of your sort of thinking, now isn't it, Soren?    ::)



*SIGH*, no prizes for being second, Soren.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Title: Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Post by Grendel on May 28th, 2017 at 11:16am
Sigh no prizes for being a total hypocrite bwian :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) LOSER...

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