A Palestinian human rights campaigner has had his visa to enter Australia cancelled.

Bassem Tamimi, an outspoken activist and opponent of Israeli settlement in the West Bank, was scheduled to speak in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth this month.

However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East".




The visa was granted on April 4 and cancelled the next day under section 128 of the Migration Act.

Mr Timimi said he was disappointed to learn that he would not be able to visit.

"I feel that not only Palestine is occupied, the Zionists and their allies dominate the decision in all the world," he said from Jordan where he expected to board his flight to Australia.

"We are not fighting the Israeli occupation, we are fighting the colonisation everywhere. For that we must unify our struggles for humanity."

Organisers of Mr Tamimi's visit have described the move as an act of extreme censorship and have called on Immigration Minister Peter Dutton to reverse the visa cancellation.

"It is clear that this decision is motivated to silence pro-Palestinian views rather than avoiding politically controversial views," speaking tour activist Vashti Kenway said.

An Australian Friends of Palestine Association event post said Mr Tamimi's Sydney event was scheduled for April 11 at Sydney University.

A change.org petition against the government's ruling was created on Friday night.

Mr Tamimi was convicted by an Israeli military court in 2011 for "sending people to throw stones and holding a march without a permit".

His lawyers denied the charges saying he believed in "passive resistance".

The Department of Immigration and Border Protection have been contacted for comment.

© AAP 2017

That's karma. ;D ;D ;D

This is just the federal government kissing Trumps ass.

Why would we have our own opinion when we can just follow the lead of the US ?

Passive aggressive support of tyranny.

I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum.

rhino wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:20pm:

I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum.

They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:20pm: I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum. They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching?

thats not fair hammer.....you dont even know what his schedule was....

I agree with Rhino let these people speak... in the open forum..of course it will provoke a certain group...but so what! 

I dont know about anyone else but I have never heard of this guy..... what nare we afraid of???..

hearing all sides by the look of things... >:( >:(

and yes Hammer there is more than one side to every fight..

Im all for free speech, but totally free. None of this by invite only businesss. Public forum, and only in English, no Arabic. Our country, our language, our rules.

I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation.

And no disguises allowed at the meetings. i.e. nothing which prevents a persons face being easily recognised. We want this totally free.

he sounds like a reasonable guy but a realistic one...Palestine..is not Syria....we should not take sides and we should be open to anyone who just may have the answer..

if I get the petition I just may sign it.

The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:51pm:

The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour.

they have not a thing to do with each other....

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other....

Stop trying to ARGUE with me cods. It brings the forum down.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other.... Stop trying to ARGUE with me cods. It brings the forum down.

just agree with me   and I will call it a win..

hows that!

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:51pm:

The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour.

Ahhj
But its not acceptable to the CULT to have anyone, let alone a female and
Even worse a female who shrugged of the shackes of primitive brutality, to speak against the CULT.

The CULT is so fragile that if people were to actually start to think and examine the CULT for what it is
It would crumble like the bones of their pedophile, sociopath, mentally ill, insane prophet.

Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:41am:

Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one?

Let him in and monitor the ratbags who attend his speeches

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:41am:

Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one?

'Activist'/terrorist.......?

Has Cods become radicalised already.....when is she going to go shopping in her hijab?

This is a good thing.

think of your country like a nightclub, you need to have a bouncer on the door who only lets in people who are going to "raise the vibration".


happy, aspirational, positive and fun people get thru the door and the bouncer ushers them in.

but negative and toxic people who will ruin the fun vibe...
they just have to stand in the street and get all butt hurt and cry...thats your punishment for being a scrub...you dont get to go where the cool people are

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? 'Activist'/terrorist.......? Has Cods become radicalised already.....when is she going to go shopping in her hijab?

you are not taking your "rational thinking meds" are you pet..

I didnt think so! :)

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Let him in and monitor the ratbags who attend his speeches

Why? Do you think only "ratbags" are interested n hearing the POV of a Palestinian activist?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 11:38am:

Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:51am: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Let him in and monitor the ratbags who attend his speeches Why? Do you think only "ratbags" are interested n hearing the POV of a Palestinian activist?

Go to my post and highlight and bold the bit where I said 'only ratbags'.

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:38am: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:51am: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Let him in and monitor the ratbags who attend his speeches Why? Do you think only "ratbags" are interested n hearing the POV of a Palestinian activist? Go to my post and highlight and bold the bit where I said 'only ratbags'.

She loves twisting posts around to give them new meaning. Don't get pulled into it Gordon.

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:38am: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:51am: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Let him in and monitor the ratbags who attend his speeches Why? Do you think only "ratbags" are interested n hearing the POV of a Palestinian activist? Go to my post and highlight and bold the bit where I said 'only ratbags'.

So how do they spot the "ratbags", Gordy?

If the Palestinians had Israel, it would look like Somalia.

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation.

Tag all who attend?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend?

Lucky ASIO are so good at their job.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:41am:

Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one?

Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up.


We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already.

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job.

Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy?

Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags".

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already.

He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags".

That's how ASIO would do it.
Record all faces who go and tag them.
Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views?

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:48pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags". That's how ASIO would do it. Record all faces who go and tag them. Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views?

Why is Palestinian activism an extreme view?

Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:52pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:48pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags". That's how ASIO would do it. Record all faces who go and tag them. Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views? Why is Palestinian activism an extreme view?

Oh probably because destroying Israel and killing every last jew is an openly stated goal of Palestine.

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:52pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:48pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags". That's how ASIO would do it. Record all faces who go and tag them. Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views? Why is Palestinian activism an extreme view? Oh probably because destroying Israel and killing every last jew is an openly stated goal of Palestine.

No it's not. You'e letting your Islmophobia get the better of you ... again.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist?

What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech.


Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on.

As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off.



They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without.


Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech.

Perhaps you should read this:

https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/

... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims?

Remember we are not muslims, we don't go around threatening to cut off heads, as we don't get all worked up over some bullsh1t or other.

We imported a bunch of fkking lunatics who kill for their versions of their fairy-tale, best we don't allow them access to hate speech.

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Alas, too late.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 3:36pm:

A Palestinian human rights campaigner has had his visa to enter Australia cancelled. Bassem Tamimi, an outspoken activist and opponent of Israeli settlement in the West Bank, was scheduled to speak in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth this month. However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East".

Damn.

That's not good news. Our freedom to listen to what this fellow has to say in person has been denied us.

It also sets a president for the government to ban other speakers like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Geert Wilders, Mark Steyn, and even Nigel Farage.

This is grim news indeed.i

rhino wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

And no disguises allowed at the meetings. i.e. nothing which prevents a persons face being easily recognised. We want this totally free.

No wearing pig masks or hiding behind A4 cartoons of Mohammad.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech. Perhaps you should read this: https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/ ... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

And an opinion poll is relevant to what I said how?


Was there an opinion poll on muslim hate speech in there somewhere and I missed it?


When you are trying to be irrelevant you do not fkk around do you.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

Alas, too late.

Denialist!

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech. Perhaps you should read this: https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/ ... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. And an opinion poll is relevant to what I said how? Was there an opinion poll on muslim hate speech in there somewhere and I missed it? When you are trying to be irrelevant you do not fkk around do you.

Not a big thinker are you?

It clearly evidences that any audience Bassem al-Tamimi attracts would not comprise solely of Muslims; that most Australians agree with what he is saying and most Australians do not consider what he says to be "hate speech".

Tell me BigOl, have you read anything about him? Read about his platform?

No. Of course you haven't.

You are simply, and i use that word in every sense of it's meaning, reacting because he is a Muslim.

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other....

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

have you thought that out?

He's a Muslim ... he wants to speak out against the US & the Israelis here .....

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim ... she wants to speak out against the hypocrisy & extremists in this ideology ..

but when she wants to come here to speak .. she gets death threats & so called Muslim womens groups protesting her entry.

If she can't come in for security reasons ...... then this bloke can't come in because his fellow Muslims are the reason Hirsi Ali has cancelled.

No one is threatening his safety ....

but in fairness he should stay in Palestine.

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D have you thought that out? He's a Muslim ... he wants to speak out against the US & the Israelis here ..... Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim ... she wants to speak out against the hypocrisy & extremists in this ideology .. but when she wants to come here to speak .. she gets death threats & so called Muslim womens groups protesting her entry. If she can't come in for security reasons ...... then this bloke can't come in because his fellow Muslims are the reason Hirsi Ali has cancelled. No one is threatening his safety .... but in fairness he should stay in Palestine.

She didn't get death threats for wanting to come here. She cancelled her tour due to "organisational lapses" by her sponsors.

This has already been established.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims?

Ok smart arze how is Hirsi Ali inciting hatred?

She's telling the truth ... just like that Sth Australian Imam Tawrhidi.

If her life is threatened in this country because of her views on Islam as an ex-Muslim......

then this anti-Israel... anti the West... Palestinian can stay at home.

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:46pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:44pm: cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D have you thought that out? He's a Muslim ... he wants to speak out against the US & the Israelis here ..... Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim ... she wants to speak out against the hypocrisy & extremists in this ideology .. but when she wants to come here to speak .. she gets death threats & so called Muslim womens groups protesting her entry. If she can't come in for security reasons ...... then this bloke can't come in because his fellow Muslims are the reason Hirsi Ali has cancelled. No one is threatening his safety .... but in fairness he should stay in Palestine. She didn't get death threats for wanting to come here. She cancelled her tour due to "organisational lapses" by her sponsors. This has already been established.

A handy generalisation to cover up what amounts to security risks.

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:52pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:46pm: Gnads wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:44pm: cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D have you thought that out? He's a Muslim ... he wants to speak out against the US & the Israelis here ..... Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim ... she wants to speak out against the hypocrisy & extremists in this ideology .. but when she wants to come here to speak .. she gets death threats & so called Muslim womens groups protesting her entry. If she can't come in for security reasons ...... then this bloke can't come in because his fellow Muslims are the reason Hirsi Ali has cancelled. No one is threatening his safety .... but in fairness he should stay in Palestine. She didn't get death threats for wanting to come here. She cancelled her tour due to "organisational lapses" by her sponsors. This has already been established. A handy generalisation to cover up what amounts to security risks.

That was what Hirsi Ali herself said, Gnads.

Does she tend to be shy about calling out death threats?

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:51pm: The Muslims can suck on it as far as I'm concerned. That's payback for the Somali lady who got  death threats and had to abandon her tour. they have not a thing to do with each other.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D have you thought that out? He's a Muslim ... he wants to speak out against the US & the Israelis here ..... Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim ... she wants to speak out against the hypocrisy & extremists in this ideology .. but when she wants to come here to speak .. she gets death threats & so called Muslim womens groups protesting her entry. If she can't come in for security reasons ...... then this bloke can't come in because his fellow Muslims are the reason Hirsi Ali has cancelled. No one is threatening his safety .... but in fairness he should stay in Palestine.

I think you are wrong on the reasons hirsi Ali cancelled...last I heard she did it herself...the govt had not a thing to do with it..

in this case its the govt stepping in..

get your facts right.....I am sure they all get death threats no matter where they go...

there is always a group of people who do not WANT TO HEAR the other side.. :( :(

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:56pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:52pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:48pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags". That's how ASIO would do it. Record all faces who go and tag them. Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views? Why is Palestinian activism an extreme view? Oh probably because destroying Israel and killing every last jew is an openly stated goal of Palestine. No it's not. You'e letting your Islmophobia get the better of you ... again.

I know sometimes news takes a while to trickle down to your neck of the woods but can you please update the label you have for me. I'm now an avowed Sunniphobe. Not so many issues with shia.

Ta

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:32pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech. Perhaps you should read this: https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/ ... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. And an opinion poll is relevant to what I said how? Was there an opinion poll on muslim hate speech in there somewhere and I missed it? When you are trying to be irrelevant you do not fkk around do you. Not a big thinker are you? It clearly evidences that any audience Bassem al-Tamimi attracts would not comprise solely of Muslims; that most Australians agree with what he is saying and most Australians do not consider what he says to be "hate speech". Tell me BigOl, have you read anything about him? Read about his platform? No. Of course you haven't. You are simply, and i use that word in every sense of it's meaning, reacting because he is a Muslim.

Well there will always be muslim apologists in any crowd won't there?


If Australia';s security agencies have provided the government with a threat assessment and soon after his visa get cancelled, it is an easy assessment of the situation isn't it?

The threats to Australian citizens would be too great to have this bloke get our radicalised mussie lunatics all worked up, to even let him step foot in this country. Not my opinion, but an actual government security threat assessment.


Don't ya hate it when the facts stomp all over your opinion polls.  :) :) :)




Remember this is who we allow to live in our country and they do pose a serious threat to all of us when they use their children to do this sh1t.

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mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims?

It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes.

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:57pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:58pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:56pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:52pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:48pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:40pm: I say let him in, monitor all of his speeches and tag all who attend and refer to ASIO checking and possible deportation. Tag all who attend? Lucky ASIO are so good at their job. Why would you suggest they tag all those that attend Gordy? Let's just pretend you didn't call all of these people "ratbags". That's how ASIO would do it. Record all faces who go and tag them. Are you so silly to think they don't do that particularly for events that would attract a lot of people with extreme views? Why is Palestinian activism an extreme view? Oh probably because destroying Israel and killing every last jew is an openly stated goal of Palestine. No it's not. You'e letting your Islmophobia get the better of you ... again. I know sometimes news takes a while to trickle down to your neck of the woods but can you please update the label you have for me. I'm now an avowed Sunniphobe. Not so many issues with shia. Ta

Then maybe, as i have tried to explain to you many times, you should stop referring to Muslims as a homogeneous blob.

But aside from that, you know there are millions and millions of moderate Sunnis, don't you?

I dont think you should b e labelled for your views gordy...as long as they wish no violence towards anyone...

there is still an awful lot for people to learn.. and I believe locking people out who have a lesson to teach is the wrong thing to do..

we get ... well I know I do!  get my info from the media...I do not know a person who has personal experience from either side...

and there is an almighty difference...imo...

lets hope the govt changes its mind..

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:02pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm: Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims? It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes.

::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

their is of course a lot of HATE directed towards Christians.....which we hear very little about. :(

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 2:57pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:39pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:32pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech. Perhaps you should read this: https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/ ... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. And an opinion poll is relevant to what I said how? Was there an opinion poll on muslim hate speech in there somewhere and I missed it? When you are trying to be irrelevant you do not fkk around do you. Not a big thinker are you? It clearly evidences that any audience Bassem al-Tamimi attracts would not comprise solely of Muslims; that most Australians agree with what he is saying and most Australians do not consider what he says to be "hate speech". Tell me BigOl, have you read anything about him? Read about his platform? No. Of course you haven't. You are simply, and i use that word in every sense of it's meaning, reacting because he is a Muslim. Well there will always be muslim apologists in any crowd won't there? If Australia';s security agencies have provided the government with a threat assessment and soon after his visa get cancelled, it is an easy assessment of the situation isn't it? The threats to Australian citizens would be too great to have this bloke get our radicalised mussie lunatics all worked up, to even let him step foot in this country. Not my opinion, but an actual government security threat assessment. Don't ya hate it when the facts stomp all over your opinion polls.  :) :) :) Remember this is who we allow to live in our country and they do pose a serious threat to all of us when they use their children to do this sh1t.

By all means, continue being paranoid, little man.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:02pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm: Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims? It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes.

Do you actually read this forum, Herbie?

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:57pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:39pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:32pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:21pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:47pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? Im pretty sure 'free speech' does not extend to inciting hatred and getting our potential terrorists all worked up. We have enough 'in-house', scumbags doing that already. He "incites hatred" because he is a Palestinian activist? What do you reckon the chances the Jews are mentioned in an adverse light somewhere in his speech. Since he is here to talk to mussies, Id say one or fifty of them are fkken unhunged radicals waiting for some fkked up reason or other to get their 'kill' on. As with  any group of lunatics it is best to keep them away from anything that can set them off. They have no right to access this this information, so fkk 'em, they can go without. Our safety is vastly more important than any mussies' access to hate speech. Perhaps you should read this: https://apan.org.au/apan-activities/opinion_poll/ ... before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. And an opinion poll is relevant to what I said how? Was there an opinion poll on muslim hate speech in there somewhere and I missed it? When you are trying to be irrelevant you do not fkk around do you. Not a big thinker are you? It clearly evidences that any audience Bassem al-Tamimi attracts would not comprise solely of Muslims; that most Australians agree with what he is saying and most Australians do not consider what he says to be "hate speech". Tell me BigOl, have you read anything about him? Read about his platform? No. Of course you haven't. You are simply, and i use that word in every sense of it's meaning, reacting because he is a Muslim. Well there will always be muslim apologists in any crowd won't there? If Australia';s security agencies have provided the government with a threat assessment and soon after his visa get cancelled, it is an easy assessment of the situation isn't it? The threats to Australian citizens would be too great to have this bloke get our radicalised mussie lunatics all worked up, to even let him step foot in this country. Not my opinion, but an actual government security threat assessment. Don't ya hate it when the facts stomp all over your opinion polls.  :) :) :) Remember this is who we allow to live in our country and they do pose a serious threat to all of us when they use their children to do this sh1t. By all means, continue being paranoid, little man.

And by all means continue to be a deluded denialist.

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mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:02pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm: Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims? It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes. Do you actually read this forum, Herbie?

I've read your post and responded to it.

To wit : -

It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:06pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:02pm: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm: Is it more extreme than Ayaan Hirsi Ali inciting hatred towards Muslims? It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes. Do you actually read this forum, Herbie? I've read your post and responded to it. To wit : - It's not 'hate' as you so childishly put it, but a healthy disapproval of some of their practices and attitudes.

If you don't think Hirsi Ali incites hatred, you've not been paying attention.

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

their is of course a lot of HATE directed towards Christians.....which we hear very little about. :(

I'm not entirely happy with your comment here, codsey. I have personally had Muslim work-friends who took no issue with me being a rabid agnostic, and many of them felt it no problem to wish me a Merry Christmas, etc.

We've got to keep it real, codsey, or otherwise these discussions are just hot air with no substance.

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:51am: mothra wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:41am: Where's FD, Frank et al bemoaning the lack of freedom of speech on this one? 'Activist'/terrorist.......? Has Cods become radicalised already.....when is she going to go shopping in her hijab? you are not taking your "rational thinking meds" are you pet.. I didnt think so! :)

But you are eh?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

mothra wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

If you don't think Hirsi Ali incites hatred, you've not been paying attention.

I'm not going to enter into a Punch & Judy Show with you here, Ms Mothra, so you may as well find someone else to play with.

Ayaan incites critical-thinking and awareness of an imported malignant religion in an otherwise thoroughly PC-saturated and dumbed-down, sports-mad Australian public.

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:20pm: I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum. They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching? thats not fair hammer.....you dont even know what his schedule was.... I agree with Rhino let these people speak... in the open forum..of course it will provoke a certain group...but so what!  I dont know about anyone else but I have never heard of this guy..... what nare we afraid of???.. hearing all sides by the look of things... >:( >:( and yes Hammer there is more than one side to every fight..

Your 'rational thinking head' eh......

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:20pm: I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum. They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching? thats not fair hammer.....you dont even know what his schedule was.... I agree with Rhino let these people speak... in the open forum..of course it will provoke a certain group...but so what!  I dont know about anyone else but I have never heard of this guy..... what nare we afraid of???.. hearing all sides by the look of things... >:( >:( and yes Hammer there is more than one side to every fight.. Your 'rational thinking head' eh......

Illuminate us Fireball. What is wrong with what Cods said?

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:20pm: I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum. They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching? thats not fair hammer.....you dont even know what his schedule was.... I agree with Rhino let these people speak... in the open forum..of course it will provoke a certain group...but so what!  I dont know about anyone else but I have never heard of this guy..... what nare we afraid of???.. hearing all sides by the look of things... >:( >:( and yes Hammer there is more than one side to every fight.. Your 'rational thinking head' eh......

if I was truly rational.. I would block you from view...

sadly in this small forum   thats impossible.... :(

luckily though   you dont bother me too much..

you are far too immature for me to engage with.

you were saying?..

emotional states are addictive.

lets look at emotions associated with palestine....


Disappointing       Enslavement
   Frightening        Fear      Anxiety       Withdrawal
    Tragic            Grief          Regret                Despondence
     Hopeless       Apathy               Despair             
                  Guilt            Blame    Destruction
Despising    Hateful    Shame  .


you actually cant get any lower then that.

if you feel drawn to the palestinian story, then you are drawn to a very very low "set point" of happiness.

people will keep coming back to the set point of happiness they have assigned for themselves, for the "emotional state" where they feel most comfortable.

if the palestinian issue is where you 'vibe" you are in a lot of trouble,
you basicly love pain.
you need to clean that up.

i would suggest watching a really good episode of Kath and Kim every night and just ignore palestine.
you need to stop your own emotional "pain" that you are addicted to . stop the carnage, dont be a trainwreck. if not for yourself, do it for family and friends

Quote:

However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East".

Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath.

I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too.

The Muslims demonstrating against the Somali lady were banging on about how her tour could cause violence against Muslim people. Dutton's argument was that this  Palestinian dude could drum up hatred towards the Australian Jews. The Muslim argument makes sense to me. Ban the Palestinian too.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too.

Bottom line- you Muslims can't always get what you want. You got the Somali stopped so your speaker got stopped. Checkmate.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too.

is this the opposite to islamphobia..

could it be Jewslemphobia... :) :) :)


heaven forbid!

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:04pm: their is of course a lot of HATE directed towards Christians.....which we hear very little about. :( I'm not entirely happy with your comment here, codsey. I have personally had Muslim work-friends who took no issue with me being a rabid agnostic, and many of them felt it no problem to wish me a Merry Christmas, etc. We've got to keep it real, codsey, or otherwise these discussions are just hot air with no substance.

What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney.

At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians.
Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated.

But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage.
Protests everywhere and calls for beheading.

Valkie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote Today at 3:20pm: cods wrote Today at 3:04pm: their is of course a lot of HATE directed towards Christians.....which we hear very little about. I'm not entirely happy with your comment here, codsey. I have personally had Muslim work-friends who took no issue with me being a rabid agnostic, and many of them felt it no problem to wish me a Merry Christmas, etc. We've got to keep it real, codsey, or otherwise these discussions are just hot air with no substance. What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading.

someone has to show better judgement when we go around hitting each other and or as is the case on public forums... calling each other names....

just where does that get us or them????>>

it usually ends up with lots of blood and lost lives..

a WIn for no one.. as we can see by our other efforts of knocking each other out of existence.. WW1/WW11

nothing changes...we still fight and call eash other names..

:( :( :( :(

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too. Bottom line- you Muslims can't always get what you want. You got the Somali stopped so your speaker got stopped. Checkmate.

He is a Palestinian nationalist fighting against occupation. It has nothing to do with Islam.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too.

That's my guess too, and it's yet another case of the tail wagging the dog.

The sooner we get rid of these feeble political game-players in Canberra the better.

It's ethnic communities dictating policy now.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 5:53pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too. Bottom line- you Muslims can't always get what you want. You got the Somali stopped so your speaker got stopped. Checkmate. He is a Palestinian nationalist fighting against occupation. It has nothing to do with Islam.

BS it doesn't. Islam runs right through the whole issue. the Jew hatred, the lost Muslim territory, the Palestinian groups involved. You can't tell me this speaker won't attract the radical element so they have a good old Jew hate rally.

Valkie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading.

Quite right.

These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom.

And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs.

come on hammer.... are you kidding me... no other
culture has ever attacked anyone in SYDNEY.....


you must be walking around like the 3 monkeys... :D :D..

did you read my thread on the NZ born character who has a crime list like you wouldn t believe....and they have refused to deport him because he grew up here.. and like big brave people we have to accept some of the responsibility.....hes only 41 now god only knows what more crime he will do..... but I dont believe hes a muslim.. ::) ::)

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. come on hammer.... are you kidding me... no other culture has ever attacked anyone in SYDNEY..... you must be walking around like the 3 monkeys... :D :D.. did you read my thread on the NZ born character who has a crime list like you wouldn t believe....and they have refused to deport him because he grew up here.. and like big brave people we have to accept some of the responsibility.....hes only 41 now god only knows what more crime he will do..... but I dont believe hes a muslim.. ::) ::)

Lebanese Muslims are causing big issues in Sydney Cods. Where they go is problems. There's bashings, rapes, terrorism, murders etc all of the time.  New Zealanders ARE being deported . There's hundreds in offshore detention . If he's done more than 12 months in the can he's a candidate. There may be circumstances involved.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:

cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. come on hammer.... are you kidding me... no other culture has ever attacked anyone in SYDNEY..... you must be walking around like the 3 monkeys... :D :D.. did you read my thread on the NZ born character who has a crime list like you wouldn t believe....and they have refused to deport him because he grew up here.. and like big brave people we have to accept some of the responsibility.....hes only 41 now god only knows what more crime he will do..... but I dont believe hes a muslim.. ::) ::) Except some cultures and religions do it more than other Cods.

oh I dont know.......can we in all honesty say there was ever a time when Christians were not at WAR...

if anyone should learn from history its us...


well I presume you are a white Christian like I am...or at least consider myself to be...

I do hope I am more tolerant than yourself Hammer....

personally I do n ot know an y Muslims...I have been to Dubai  as a stop over....24 hours...they didnt make me feel uncomfortable or unwelcome..or bash me or rob me...

what about you... have you met one in a dark ally?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs.

They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::)

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:40pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. come on hammer.... are you kidding me... no other culture has ever attacked anyone in SYDNEY..... you must be walking around like the 3 monkeys... :D :D.. did you read my thread on the NZ born character who has a crime list like you wouldn t believe....and they have refused to deport him because he grew up here.. and like big brave people we have to accept some of the responsibility.....hes only 41 now god only knows what more crime he will do..... but I dont believe hes a muslim.. ::) ::) Except some cultures and religions do it more than other Cods. oh I dont know.......can we in all honesty say there was ever a time when Christians were not at WAR... if anyone should learn from history its us... well I presume you are a white Christian like I am...or at least consider myself to be... I do hope I am more tolerant than yourself Hammer.... personally I do n ot know an y Muslims...I have been to Dubai  as a stop over....24 hours...they didnt make me feel uncomfortable or unwelcome..or bash me or rob me... what about you... have you met one in a dark ally?

If you don't know any Muslims then you are really qualified to comment. Live in Lakemba or Guildford for a year and then get back to me.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::)

Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 5:53pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too. Bottom line- you Muslims can't always get what you want. You got the Somali stopped so your speaker got stopped. Checkmate. He is a Palestinian nationalist fighting against occupation. It has nothing to do with Islam.

The nation of Palestine & Palestinians is & are fictitious.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs.

There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:13pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 5:53pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Quote: However documents addressed to the 50-year-old and viewed by AAP dated April 6, show Mr Tamimi's visa to enter the country was revoked by federal authorities based on information indicating "a risk members of the public will react adversely to your presence ... regarding your views of the ongoing political tensions in the Middle East". Bottom line - the government didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Israel lobby and risk incurring their wrath. I expect there was behind-the-scenes pressure applied by the Israeli government too. Bottom line- you Muslims can't always get what you want. You got the Somali stopped so your speaker got stopped. Checkmate. He is a Palestinian nationalist fighting against occupation. It has nothing to do with Islam. The nation of Palestine & Palestinians is & are fictitious.

Not according to the Palestinians and their supporters.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian.

Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs.

Oh they understand it perfectly, but because they feel somewhat insecure in themselves when faced with white, Anglo-Australians of mainstream Australia they prefer to gravitate to multicultural and multi-racial suburbs where their feelings of inadequacy and social incompetence is not nearly as threatened.




 

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:24pm: cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:20pm: I for one would be happy to let this activist speak here, as long as all his meetings were public forum. They wouldn't like that. How can they call Jews pigs and dogs with Australia watching? thats not fair hammer.....you dont even know what his schedule was.... I agree with Rhino let these people speak... in the open forum..of course it will provoke a certain group...but so what!  I dont know about anyone else but I have never heard of this guy..... what nare we afraid of???.. hearing all sides by the look of things... >:( >:( and yes Hammer there is more than one side to every fight.. Your 'rational thinking head' eh...... if I was truly rational.. I would block you from view... sadly in this small forum   thats impossible.... :( luckily though   you dont bother me too much.. you are far too immature for me to engage with. you were saying?..

Likewise, you're an old biddy who can't decide whether she's Arthur or Martha......when you get a groveller like Mothball (sh!t-fly/haemorrhoid clone) siding with you it's time for you to STF up!

And if we needed more evidence Fireball goes the player, not the ball?

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

- Eleanor Roosevelt

well all I know is..

fireball has no idea about debating...

so I dont bother anymore...sadly they ruin any thread with their pathetic abuse...

maybe its time fd had a rule..

3 pathetic posts on a thread and your out.. :( :( :(

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian. Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::)

There's a bunch of them all over the area. Tthere's 1 a couple of k away in St Mary's. It's not needed. It's a anglo town.

cods wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 10:50am:

well all I know is.. fireball has no idea about debating... so I dont bother anymore...sadly they ruin any thread with their pathetic abuse... maybe its time fd had a rule.. 3 pathetic posts on a thread and your out.. :( :( :(

How many times have you been banned Cods, once only recently, but quite a few over the past months?

As I've said to you recently, maybe you should think before opening your mouth......

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:27am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. Oh they understand it perfectly, but because they feel somewhat insecure in themselves when faced with white, Anglo-Australians of mainstream Australia they prefer to gravitate to multicultural and multi-racial suburbs where their feelings of inadequacy and social incompetence is not nearly as threatened.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif

In a word, bullshit, Herbie.   Gosh you're full of it.    ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:56pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian. Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::) There's a bunch of them all over the area. Tthere's 1 a couple of k away in St Mary's. It's not needed. It's a anglo town.

Not on the list, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk, what other porkie-pies are you up to?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:39am: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:56pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian. Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::) There's a bunch of them all over the area. Tthere's 1 a couple of k away in St Mary's. It's not needed. It's a anglo town. Not on the list, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk, what other porkie-pies are you up to?   ::)

I stand corrected. It's at Mt Druitt which is next to St Mary's. You know why there's no Muslim schools in Penrith and St Mary's. Because there's not many Muslims. That's the way we like it. It won't get passed because they want the school on the main street of Penrith. It will bank traffic up when they try to get across the road to get to the train station.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:15pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:39am: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:56pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian. Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::) There's a bunch of them all over the area. Tthere's 1 a couple of k away in St Mary's. It's not needed. It's a anglo town. Not on the list, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk, what other porkie-pies are you up to?   ::) I stand corrected. It's at Mt Druitt which is next to St Mary's. You know why there's no Muslim schools in Penrith and St Mary's. Because there's not many Muslims. That's the way we like it. It won't get passed because they want the school on the main street of Penrith. It will bank traffic up when they try to get across the road to get to the train station.

Mt. Druit is nearly 20 km away, Hammer.

As to whether or not it will "bank traffic up" that would depend on how they cross the road, now, wouldn't it?   Tsk, tsk, you really do lack imagination.  Perhaps your Islamophobia destroys it?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:15pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:39am: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:56pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:58pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:00pm: What about the attacks on Christians on public transport in Sydney. At least 4 have been reported as directly perpetrated by muzzos against Christians. Many others are simply swept under the carpet as just attacks with no reference to being religiously motivated. But if someone was to insult or "heaven forbid" clot a muzzo for any reason.....its all muzzos on the rampage. Protests everywhere and calls for beheading. Quite right. These were Muslims targeting Christians in just the same way as Muslims targeted our girls on Cronulla beach for subscribing to Western dress-fashion and custom. And people like Brian and Karnal can't understand why people don't want them moving into their suburbs. They are Australian citizens or residents, Hammer.  They have exactly the same rights as you and I.  They can and do move where they like and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop that.    ::) ::) Absolutely correct. It doesn't mean their school will get the tick though. They already have a school for 224 people who by the way can go to any number of other Muslim schools in the area. People are well aware that this is a strategy to spread Islam into the area . First the school, then the huge mosque and then the influx. Then the area changes and becomes less safe. Then people move away and it becomes like Lakemba and a bunch of other Sydney suburbs. There are no other Muslim schools in the area, Hammer.  I am glad you agree with me about what can and cannot be done to Muslim citizens/residents in Australia.  As for their school, if it fulfills the requirements under the Planning Act, there is absolutely nothing the Council or inhabitants can do to stop it's establishment.   You are simply peddling Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::) There's another school in Penrith and muslim schools all through western Sydney Brian. Not according to this list, Hammer...   ::) There's a bunch of them all over the area. Tthere's 1 a couple of k away in St Mary's. It's not needed. It's a anglo town. Not on the list, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk, what other porkie-pies are you up to?   ::) I stand corrected. It's at Mt Druitt which is next to St Mary's. You know why there's no Muslim schools in Penrith and St Mary's. Because there's not many Muslims. That's the way we like it. It won't get passed because they want the school on the main street of Penrith. It will bank traffic up when they try to get across the road to get to the train station. Mt. Druit is nearly 20 km away, Hammer. As to whether or not it will "bank traffic up" that would depend on how they cross the road, now, wouldn't it?   Tsk, tsk, you really do lack imagination.  Perhaps your Islamophobia destroys it?    ::) ::)

You'll love it when it gets knocked back. The Saudi  company who bought the land will have to sell it .

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

You'll love it when it gets knocked back. The Saudi  company who bought the land will have to sell it .

Well, we shall just have to wait and see, now won't we?

You have thus far not put forward any valid reasons why it should be knocked back.  I doubt it will be, particularly as there would be no grounds to knock it back.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:43pm: You'll love it when it gets knocked back. The Saudi  company who bought the land will have to sell it . Well, we shall just have to wait and see, now won't we? You have thus far not put forward any valid reasons why it should be knocked back.  I doubt it will be, particularly as there would be no grounds to know it back.    ::)

You don't know Penrith do you? They won't get their school on the main drag for the city of Penrith. It's like putting a school on Parramatta Rd.

Hey Bwyannnnnnnnnn

After reading your purile comments, read you infantile insults and been the object of your brutal Tsk Tsk.

I have to ask.

WHO TIES YOUR SHOELACES FOR YOU?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:43pm: You'll love it when it gets knocked back. The Saudi  company who bought the land will have to sell it . Well, we shall just have to wait and see, now won't we? You have thus far not put forward any valid reasons why it should be knocked back.  I doubt it will be, particularly as there would be no grounds to know it back.    ::) You don't know Penrith do you? They won't get their school on the main drag for the city of Penrith. It's like putting a school on Parramatta Rd.

How about if they built one of these, Hammer?    ::)

http://www.uisutah.com/uis2011/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/PedestrianOverpass-ParleysCanyonUT1.jpg

Valkie wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Hey Bwyannnnnnnnnn After reading your purile comments, read you infantile insults and been the object of your brutal Tsk Tsk. I have to ask. WHO TIES YOUR SHOELACES FOR YOU?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif

Now, what was it that Eleanor Roosevelt said about people of low intellect arguing the person, not the issue?  Valkie, tsk, tsk.  You obviously don't have a very high intellect, do you?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:56pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:43pm: You'll love it when it gets knocked back. The Saudi  company who bought the land will have to sell it . Well, we shall just have to wait and see, now won't we? You have thus far not put forward any valid reasons why it should be knocked back.  I doubt it will be, particularly as there would be no grounds to know it back.    ::) You don't know Penrith do you? They won't get their school on the main drag for the city of Penrith. It's like putting a school on Parramatta Rd. How about if they built one of these, Hammer?    ::) http://www.uisutah.com/uis2011/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/PedestrianOverpass-ParleysCanyonUT1.jpg

Not where they want it. They'd have to knock down buildings to put up an overpass. Their land is part of the main drag and is the most built up part of Penrith. The best thing to do is move their development away from the town centre. Penrith residents would probably approve. Nobody wants to see religion all over the beautiful main street of Penrith.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Not where they want it.

OK, where do they want it?  Give me the street name and number and I'll check it on Google Maps.

Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians.

Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :)

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :)

So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 10:51pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::)

Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus.


Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east.


Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them.


Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults.

Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not accredited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not.

You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims.

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults.

I suspected you cut your own nose off to spite your face, BigOl64.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

mothra wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults. Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not credited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not. You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims.

Not even close to what the conversation was about.


But thanks for having a go, you special education Magna Cum Laude.  :) :) :)

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:24pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:20pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults. Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not credited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not. You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims. Not even close to what the conversation was about. But thanks for having a go, you special education Magna Cum Laude.  :) :) :)

You forget what you've typed as soon as you've typed it, don't you?

Read back over the flow of dialogue ... see where you've gone wrong.

mothra wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:24pm: mothra wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:20pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults. Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not credited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not. You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims. Not even close to what the conversation was about. But thanks for having a go, you special education Magna Cum Laude.  :) :) :) You forget what you've typed as soon as you've typed it, don't you? Read back over the flow of dialogue ... see where you've gone wrong.

No. Im on target

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:32pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:26pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:24pm: mothra wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:20pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults. Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not credited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not. You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims. Not even close to what the conversation was about. But thanks for having a go, you special education Magna Cum Laude.  :) :) :) You forget what you've typed as soon as you've typed it, don't you? Read back over the flow of dialogue ... see where you've gone wrong. No. Im on target

I'll walk you through iit again, shall i?

You said:

"Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus.


Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east."


To which i said:

"Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not accredited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not.

You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims."


Now, would you like to claim again that you are "on target"?

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:10pm: Hey Bwyannnnnnnnnn After reading your purile comments, read you infantile insults and been the object of your brutal Tsk Tsk. I have to ask. WHO TIES YOUR SHOELACES FOR YOU? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif Now, what was it that Eleanor Roosevelt said about people of low intellect arguing the person, not the issue?  Valkie, tsk, tsk.  You obviously don't have a very high intellect, do you?    ::) ::)

Buit that is all you ever do.

You cant win a logical argument so your most common retort is to attack the person and call them a islamaphobe.

Deny this, I dare you.

Besides, I was truly inquiring about your well-being.
Who does tie your shoelaces

If your adroitness is mirrored by your intellect, you would ceartanly need someone ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

mothra wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:00pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:51pm: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm: Every filthy mussie scumbag they keep out of this country is only a positive for all Australians. Yeah one or two good ones might not get in, but a lot of filth won't make it in and this is nothing but gravy for the country as a whole.  :) :) :) So, the Muslim surgeon you needed to save your life was refused entry to Australia, you wouldn't mind?  How about if the Muslim scientist, doing ground breaking research which your grandchild relied on to survive was refused?   Do you think either outcome would be "gravy for the country", BigOl64?  Really?    ::) ::) Everybody knows that when it comes to surgery you get the Jewish/Indian doctor, not the loser from the university of damascus. Fkk Ill take any doctor from anywhere with a decent science program before the backwaters of the middle east. Muslims breed terrorists, in there thousands,and doctors of dubious capability in their hundreds, we don't need any of them. Stop trying the child argument that you are so used to in your religious conversations, it doesn't work as well with adults. Typical ignorance. Most doctors who have had their training outside of Australia are not accredited here. They cannot get a license. University of Damascus or not. You will have a surgeon who has studied here ... and plenty of them are Muslims.

Thats OK.

If they don't have a licence, they simply pretend to be a doctor they met in India and bingo, they are a doctor.
The Australian authorities are obviously all over this practice.........not.

cods wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 10:50am:

well all I know is.. fireball has no idea about debating... so I dont bother anymore...sadly they ruin any thread with their pathetic abuse... maybe its time fd had a rule.. 3 pathetic posts on a thread and your out.. :( :( :(

Careful what you wish for .... if that were applied you would have been history long ago. ;D

btw you shouldn't make judgement calls on others ability to debate ......

people in glass houses ... when you point a finger there are 3 pointing back. etc.  ::)

Valkie wrote on Apr 12^th, 2017 at 5:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 7:08pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:10pm: Hey Bwyannnnnnnnnn After reading your purile comments, read you infantile insults and been the object of your brutal Tsk Tsk. I have to ask. WHO TIES YOUR SHOELACES FOR YOU? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif Now, what was it that Eleanor Roosevelt said about people of low intellect arguing the person, not the issue?  Valkie, tsk, tsk.  You obviously don't have a very high intellect, do you?    ::) ::) Buit that is all you ever do. You cant win a logical argument so your most common retort is to attack the person and call them a islamaphobe. Deny this, I dare you.

Ooooh, I am frightened, Valkie.  What are you going to do?  Come 'round and beat me up?   ::)

The reason WHY I call a person an "Islamophobe" is because they are posting Islamophobic text based upon prejudice, not rational argument.  When you actually come up with a rational argument that doesn't rely upon insulting people because of their beliefs or their inheritance, get back to me.  Until then, I will continue to call you an Islamophobe on the basis of your irrational, bigoted hatred.   Tsk, tsk.  Run along, isn't it time for bed for you?   ::)

Gnads wrote on Apr 12^th, 2017 at 7:10am:

cods wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:50am: well all I know is.. fireball has no idea about debating... so I dont bother anymore...sadly they ruin any thread with their pathetic abuse... maybe its time fd had a rule.. 3 pathetic posts on a thread and your out.. :( :( :( Careful what you wish for .... if that were applied you would have been history long ago. ;D btw you shouldn't make judgement calls on others ability to debate ...... people in glass houses ... when you point a finger there are 3 pointing back. etc.  ::)

Sage advice, Cods.  Listen to Gnads.   Spike Milligan summed it up rather well, "those that live in glass houses, shouldn't drop their trousers!".    :)