EVIDENCE left at the scene of a fatal service station attack — possibly involving the way the victim was killed — led police to suspect terrorism links.

Counter-terrorism police are leading the investigation into the killing of 29-year-old Caltex attendant Zeeshan Akbar just before midnight on Thursday. His death was one of a series of violent incidents in the NSW town, just outside Canberra, that police allege were committed by two teenage boys, aged 15 and 16.

Police allege one man was stabbed in the abdomen on a street close to the service station, another man was attacked with a bottle, while a fourth was attacked with a tyre iron.

NSW Police Deputy Commissioner Catherine Burn told a Sydney media conference on Friday afternoon police were exploring links the 16-year-old may have to terrorism.

“We have two teenagers in custody and sufficient information to believe the actions of one of those teenagers may be related to terrorism. That information comes from physical evidence at the scene and other sources.”

Initial inquiries suggested there were links to a “modus operandi that we would suggest is indicative of a terrorist attack, inspired or otherwise.”


Asked specifically about reports the letters “IS” were written in blood on a window, Ms Burn said physical evidence left at the scene “does go to our view that this might be an act of terrorism ... which has clearly led us to consider other avenues of inquiry, notably counter-terrorism related ... That’s why we are interested.”

But she refused to say what the evidence was.

Investigators from the NSW Joint-Counter Terrorism Team were now trying to establish a motive and whether there were in fact any links between terror groups and the boys — and to what extent.

“We can’t draw any conclusions whatsoever and in fact it is only one line of inquiry at the moment. Clearly, a man has been murdered, and three other men have been seriously injured, [so] and we have to look at every avenue of inquiry at the moment.”

Another line of inquiry was if the drug ice played a role in the violence.

Ms Burn said there was nothing to suggest a terror attack was imminent or any ongoing threat.

“Nevertheless, the investigation is ongoing. We have a long way to go. This is in its early stages. There is a lot that we don’t know yet, there is a lot that we will find out over the next couple of days.”

JJCT officers were trawling social media pages belonging to the arrested teens for evidence of extreme views.

They were also investigating family members over claims the boys may have been radicalised.

Earlier on Friday, a senior officer told reporters the attacks allegedly carried out by two teen boys “doesn’t get more serious than this.”

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said the circumstances were “sufficiently concerning” for the JCTT to lead the investigation.

The fact two young teenagers were alleged to be involved was “shocking”, and underlined the “concerns” the government had about young Australians being drawn into committing violent acts.

The attendant was discovered dead in the Bungendore Road Caltex service station at 11.55pm by a colleague who was arriving for work. Emergency services were called, but the man couldn’t be saved and he died at the scene.

His colleague arrived less than 10 minutes after the stabbing and came across “a gruesome scene,” Monaro Police Superintendent Rod Smith said.
Police will allege the two boys walked into the Caltex store at 11.45pm and began fighting with the attendant.

“It’s alleged during that struggle the attendant suffered a number of stab wounds which were fatal to that man,” Supt Smith said.

Police launched an “intensive” hunt for the two boys who were captured by the station’s CCTV cameras. It’s believed the bloody attack was also caught on camera.

He wouldn’t say if they were known to police, but both boys were from the Queanbeyan area.

The cash register and other items were taken from the store and significant damage was done when the boys had to “smash their way out” through a window after the door automatically locked behind them.
“Police allege they were involved in a number of other incidents in the Queanbeyan area. One being an aggravated break and enter where a man was bashed with a tyre iron, another where a man was bashed with a park here with a beer bottle.

IS written in blood at the murder scene. Dear oh dear. Poor Australia. You were once so innocent. :'( :'(

Another Islamic terrorist attack for Australia and nobody is commenting????? Mothra, Smith, Pecca, Karnal. Ballsack, Leftwanker, Ross - why so quiet??? :-?

Put your kleenex away, Hammer.

It's still under investigation.

Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article?

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:23pm:

Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article?

No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual.

What apologies?

And don't pretend you give a crap about the poor victims. This is just another chest thump for you.

That poor bugger who was killed.
Working for sheet Caltex wages. He also has a very Muslims sounding name. He probably came here to get away from the mad muzzies but they found him.

No more Muslims.  We only want avowed secularists from the Middle East.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies?

2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist.

Read your article again and get back to me.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me.

I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs.

As a possible terrorist attack.

But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims.

So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS??

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims. So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS??

On behalf of ISIS now is it?

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims. So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS?? On behalf of ISIS now is it?

Well yes. IS painted in blood at the scene sure makes it look like it. If it was KKK or a swastika you'd be banging on about nationalists in a second.

Gordon wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

That poor bugger who was killed. Working for sheet Caltex wages. He also has a very Muslims sounding name. He probably came here to get away from the mad muzzies but they found him. No more Muslims.  We only want avowed secularists from the Middle East.

hes from  Pakistan and had just returned after a visit home..

he didnt deserve to die like this....

I am disgusted at the way people are becoming on this forum....


these boys because thats what they are 15 and 16

will not be accountable at all for this death....no matter what they believe in..

something was written on the window of the service station .... that as far as I know is all we know..

I find it hard to believe this was a HATE thing....these "boys" had already been on a rampage...

we can believe they both have records...youth crime is high in Queanbeyan sadly...

I am so sorry about that service station attendant...just doing his job minding his own business..in the wrong place at the wrong time... awful.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims. So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS?? On behalf of ISIS now is it? Well yes. IS painted in blood at the scene sure makes it look like it. If it was KKK or a swastika you'd be banging on about nationalists in a second.

Chances are, if it was a 15 and 16 yr old pair of kids that did it, i'd think they were just a pair of dickheads.

But don't let that stop you being hysterical.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims. So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS?? On behalf of ISIS now is it? Well yes. IS painted in blood at the scene sure makes it look like it. If it was KKK or a swastika you'd be banging on about nationalists in a second. Chances are, if it was a 15 and 16 yr old pair of kids that did it, i'd think they were just a pair of dickheads. But don't let that stop you being hysterical.

You would think that. Teenagers can't commit terrorism in your tiny brain it seems. ::) ISIS has soldiers fighting in Iraq younger that that.

If it were not for the CULT and its barbaric, brutal, insane practices.
These kids woukd probably never been radicalized

This CULT has so much blood on its hands.

I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:40pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:30pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:25pm: mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 6:23pm: Put your kleenex away, Hammer. It's still under investigation. Love the hysterical thread title though. Did you even read your own article? No condemnation from Mothballs but more apologies. Typical!!! When I'm proved right you'll disappear as usual. What apologies? 2 scumbags whose family believe were radicalised go on a violent crime spree which resulted in the murder of some poor bugger and they painted IS in blood at the murder scene and all you can say is- put the cleenex away , it's still under investigation and your title is hysterical blah blah. Typical apologist. Read your article again and get back to me. I just watched it on the news and Turdball just commented on it. It's being investigated as a terrorist attack Mothballs. As a possible terrorist attack. But in any case, it wasn't done by ISIS, as your thread hysterically claims. So if 2 scumbags kill somebody on behalf of ISIS they are not ISIS?? On behalf of ISIS now is it? Well yes. IS painted in blood at the scene sure makes it look like it. If it was KKK or a swastika you'd be banging on about nationalists in a second. Chances are, if it was a 15 and 16 yr old pair of kids that did it, i'd think they were just a pair of dickheads. But don't let that stop you being hysterical.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-03/nsw-police-headquarters-gunman-was-radicalised-youth/6825028

tell that to Mr Chengs family..

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously.

I remember getting very upset when boys 14/15/16.with shot guns killed birds...

now we are called hysterical! if a young man is killed by kids who were the same age as those with shot guns killing birds many years ago.... ::) ::)

has our world gone that crazy?

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:44pm: I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously. I remember getting very upset when boys 14/15/16.with shot guns killed birds... now we are called hysterical! if a young man is killed by kids who were the same age as those with shot guns killing birds many years ago.... ::) ::) has our world gone that crazy?

Not the world.

Just the insane CULT that is infecting it like a desease

The CULT of hate
The CULT of pedophiles
The CULT of terrorists
The CULT of murderers
The CULT of insanity

The CULT that it islam

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:08pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:51pm: freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:44pm: I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously. I remember getting very upset when boys 14/15/16.with shot guns killed birds... now we are called hysterical! if a young man is killed by kids who were the same age as those with shot guns killing birds many years ago.... ::) ::) has our world gone that crazy? Not the world. Just the insane CULT that is infecting it like a desease The CULT of hate The CULT of pedophiles The CULT of terrorists The CULT of murderers The CULT of insanity The CULT that it islam

Brought to you by:

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/da/46/c2a21b0b0d39d1a183f0465e2419-should-burning-a-cross-be-prohibited.jpg

::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:08pm: cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:51pm: freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:44pm: I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously. I remember getting very upset when boys 14/15/16.with shot guns killed birds... now we are called hysterical! if a young man is killed by kids who were the same age as those with shot guns killing birds many years ago.... ::) ::) has our world gone that crazy? Not the world. Just the insane CULT that is infecting it like a desease The CULT of hate The CULT of pedophiles The CULT of terrorists The CULT of murderers The CULT of insanity The CULT that it islam Brought to you by: http://cf.mp-cdn.net/da/46/c2a21b0b0d39d1a183f0465e2419-should-burning-a-cross-be-prohibited.jpg ::) ::)

KKK in the 1920s. 

You stupid, lying, dishonest old heffer.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:08pm: cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:51pm: freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 6:44pm: I remember when I was a teenager we used to go on killing sprees all the time. It's just part of growing up. Nothing to do with Islam, obviously. I remember getting very upset when boys 14/15/16.with shot guns killed birds... now we are called hysterical! if a young man is killed by kids who were the same age as those with shot guns killing birds many years ago.... ::) ::) has our world gone that crazy? Not the world. Just the insane CULT that is infecting it like a desease The CULT of hate The CULT of pedophiles The CULT of terrorists The CULT of murderers The CULT of insanity The CULT that it islam Brought to you by: http://cf.mp-cdn.net/da/46/c2a21b0b0d39d1a183f0465e2419-should-burning-a-cross-be-prohibited.jpg ::) ::)

Again with the ancient history, and again isolated to one country, possibly one county.

Then there is the CULT

Every country it infects is subjected to
hatred by the CULT,
intolerance by the CULT
Terrorism by the CULT
Welfare fraud by virtually every member of the CULT.

And that is without even considering the brutality that goes on in countries where the CULT rules.
Like
Openly promoted  pedophile marriages
Open murder of homosexuals
Open public murder of Christians
Open public murder of rape victims
Open public murder of any who want to leave the CULT
Open public stoning of a woman who seeks a real mans attention, rather than a pindick, closet homo muzzo husband rapist.
The list goes on and on and on

These muzzo dominated countries are barbaric, dangerious and disgusting in the extreem.

You pull one example of the KKK and think it an argument?
Your sycophantic, apologist, muzzo sympathiser is coming out in spades.

I await your infantile Tsk, Tsk with true trepidation............not

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy, don't you agree Brian?

Or do you have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy, don't you agree Brian? Or do you have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions?

brian only sees good in everyone....

lets leave it at that! :)

I just hope he is working on finding a solution to putting an end to all this .. "conflict"..

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy, don't you agree Brian? Or do you have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions?

Where do you find these two in todays world we are all slaves in one form or another to a minority group.

Whether you know it or not.

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy, don't you agree Brian? Or do you have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions?

If you asked him about Christianity he'd be insufferably effusive.

Now, not even a tut tut.

How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts.

Whether it is Terrorism, is secondary to what kind of terrorism. The ethnicity and related religion of the attackers are being carefully avoided in the media.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts.

None with actual links really.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts.

I dont HATE anyones GUTS hammer.....

I try really hard not to judge all by the few......and I hope they give me the same respect..

it is HATE thats spreads evil....

so loosen up mate   

acting as bad as them   wont fix anything

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 8:14pm: How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts. I dont HATE anyones GUTS hammer..... I try really hard not to judge all by the few......and I hope they give me the same respect.. it is HATE thats spreads evil.... so loosen up mate    acting as bad as them   wont fix anything

Play the ball,  Islam should be the target

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:16am: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 8:14pm: How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts. I dont HATE anyones GUTS hammer..... I try really hard not to judge all by the few......and I hope they give me the same respect.. it is HATE thats spreads evil.... so loosen up mate    acting as bad as them   wont fix anything Play the ball,  Islam should be the target

n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think..

I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 8:14pm: How many Islamic terrorist acts in Australia is that now? And Muslims wonder why everybody hates their guts. I dont HATE anyones GUTS hammer..... I try really hard not to judge all by the few......and I hope they give me the same respect.. it is HATE thats spreads evil.... so loosen up mate    acting as bad as them   wont fix anything

it should not be a case of acting as "bad" as them.
as you correctly state, this is not a solution.

however, the correct way of dealing with any sort of problem behaviour is to have very firm "personal boundaries" about what behaviour will be tolerated and what behaviour will not be tolerated.

because, i can tell you, if you have weak personal boundaries, you are a danger to yourself and of no help to anyone.

so we dont need to be "as bad", we need to be (i know this sounds arrogant)  "superior".

we need to say

any person or persons who try to indoctrinate youth will be deported
any person carrying a placard saying "death to the infidels" will be deported
any person who is involved in female genital mutilation will be deported
any person who .....etc etc.

we just say, these are the behaviours of the australian ecosystem and then, in a very matter of fact way, we remove those who dont have those values.

if you are misbehaving in a nightclub or on public transport, we dont need the driver or bouncer to fight fire with fire, but we do expect him in a calm but firm way to "dispose of this", get it out of our sight.

when people know that these are the rules, they will play by them.

if you have weak boundaries, you must expect those boundaries will be pushed on and if you yield , you have no one to blame but yourself

This case is unlikely to be a terror related.  Because it does not bear the hall mark of an IS attack.  The background is that its a string of robberies, car jacking, and stabbing.  Noted, the last event, car jacking was to make a get away.   The whole point of a terrorist attack is to make their motive known to everyone, to publicized. 

I suspect what happened is two youth, probably high on drugs, or intoxicated (or both).  Went on a crime spree.  And just for kicks decided to pain the word IS on the mirror with victims blood.  And then tried to get away. 

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:26am:

n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::)

Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017.
To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it.
No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years??

It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties.

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 11:35am:

This case is unlikely to be a terror related.  Because it does not bear the hall mark of an IS attack.  The background is that its a string of robberies, car jacking, and stabbing.  Noted, the last event, car jacking was to make a get away.   The whole point of a terrorist attack is to make their motive known to everyone, to publicized.  I suspect what happened is two youth, probably high on drugs, or intoxicated (or both).  Went on a crime spree.  And just for kicks decided to pain the word IS on the mirror with victims blood.  And then tried to get away.

Muhammad had a long career murdering people and robbing trade caravans to kick start his career as a proper warmonger. Gandalf will even justify this murder and theft as collective punishment against the society that was so mean to him. So all these Muslims have to do is decide that Australian society is oppressing them, and thanks to Gandalf they have a ready-made religious justification for killing innocent people and stealing whatever they can get their hands on.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Counter-terrorism police are leading the investigation into the killing of 29-year-old Caltex attendant Zeeshan Akbar just before midnight on Thursday. His death was one of a series of violent incidents in the NSW town, just outside Canberra, that police allege were committed by two teenage boys, aged 15 and 16. Police allege one man was stabbed in the abdomenon a street close to the service station, another man was attacked with a bottle[/highlight], while a fourth was attacked with a tyre iron.

OH MY !

The modus operandi of these "terrorist" groups gets more and more complex by the minute

Perhaps the autorities should have arrested these "terrorists" before they were driven out of King's Cross ?

Frank wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties.

a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists...

we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::)

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:35am: This case is unlikely to be a terror related.  Because it does not bear the hall mark of an IS attack.  The background is that its a string of robberies, car jacking, and stabbing.  Noted, the last event, car jacking was to make a get away.   The whole point of a terrorist attack is to make their motive known to everyone, to publicized.  I suspect what happened is two youth, probably high on drugs, or intoxicated (or both).  Went on a crime spree.  And just for kicks decided to pain the word IS on the mirror with victims blood.  And then tried to get away.  Muhammad had a long career murdering people and robbing trade caravans to kick start his career as a proper warmonger. Gandalf will even justify this murder and theft as collective punishment against the society that was so mean to him. So all these Muslims have to do is decide that Australian society is oppressing them, and thanks to Gandalf they have a ready-made religious justification for killing innocent people and stealing whatever they can get their hands on.

I highly doubt that these two youth have actually even ever read the Koran.  What ever Muhammad did was his time, its history.  And what these kids are doing now, is entirely out of their own choices.   We should look for more important factors like drug and alcohol abuse, education and prevention.   To entirely blaming it on religion, just because two letters painted in blood, (not even a flag - now think about it, even the Martin place guy have more organization)  without knowing more details of the case is not good.

cods wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:29am:

Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties. a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists... we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::)

Muslims do go around killing people for Allah and Mohammed, others are furtive, guilt-ridden shirt-lifters. Pretty significant difference.

cods wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:29am:

Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties. a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists... we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::)

But have you noticed that all these primitives (as you appear to think) are not involved in terrorism, murder or child rape condoned by their faith.

There is only one CULT that is so primitive, so brutal and so pathetically insane that these are the norm in any country that they infect.................ta da ....introducing the muzzos.

Valkie wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

cods wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 7:29am: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties. a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists... we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::) But have you noticed that all these primitives (as you appear to think) are not involved in terrorism, murder or child rape condoned by their faith. There is only one CULT that is so primitive, so brutal and so pathetically insane that these are the norm in any country that they infect.................ta da ....introducing the muzzos.

I can only guess you havent read much on these PRIMITIVE cults...

and as we know....with Islam its only the EXTREMISTS that are mad...... sadly thanks to modern technology they infiltrate the rest of the world very easily...

dont get me wrong I do see a difference....BUT..

I just see terrorists and just that evil terrorists....

I dont see them as men of god.. unlike yourself..

I prefer to believe a god would never condone what mankind is doing in 2017.....

they kill us  we kill them.. :(

cods wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:02pm: cods wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 7:29am: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties. a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists... we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::) But have you noticed that all these primitives (as you appear to think) are not involved in terrorism, murder or child rape condoned by their faith. There is only one CULT that is so primitive, so brutal and so pathetically insane that these are the norm in any country that they infect.................ta da ....introducing the muzzos. I can only guess you havent read much on these PRIMITIVE cults... and as we know....with Islam its only the EXTREMISTS that are mad...... sadly thanks to modern technology they infiltrate the rest of the world very easily... dont get me wrong I do see a difference....BUT.. I just see terrorists and just that evil terrorists.... I dont see them as men of god.. unlike yourself.. I prefer to believe a god would never condone what mankind is doing in 2017..... they kill us  we kill them.. :(

The problem is that the terrorists are protected by the so called moderates.
The moderates call for murder, beheading etc.
The imrans preach murder and call the terrorists martyrs.

The whole CULT is riddled with insane nut cases.

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:37pm: tickleandrose wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:35am: This case is unlikely to be a terror related.  Because it does not bear the hall mark of an IS attack.  The background is that its a string of robberies, car jacking, and stabbing.  Noted, the last event, car jacking was to make a get away.   The whole point of a terrorist attack is to make their motive known to everyone, to publicized.  I suspect what happened is two youth, probably high on drugs, or intoxicated (or both).  Went on a crime spree.  And just for kicks decided to pain the word IS on the mirror with victims blood.  And then tried to get away.  Muhammad had a long career murdering people and robbing trade caravans to kick start his career as a proper warmonger. Gandalf will even justify this murder and theft as collective punishment against the society that was so mean to him. So all these Muslims have to do is decide that Australian society is oppressing them, and thanks to Gandalf they have a ready-made religious justification for killing innocent people and stealing whatever they can get their hands on. I highly doubt that these two youth have actually even ever read the Koran.  What ever Muhammad did was his time, its history.  And what these kids are doing now, is entirely out of their own choices.   We should look for more important factors like drug and alcohol abuse, education and prevention.   To entirely blaming it on religion, just because two letters painted in blood, (not even a flag - now think about it, even the Martin place guy have more organization)  without knowing more details of the case is not good.

There are 1.6 billion people in the world who would disagree with you. You should be telling this to them.


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and as we know....with Islam its only the EXTREMISTS that are mad......

There are plenty of places where the majority of Muslims support the most extreme aspects of Islam, like the death penalty for apostasy and stoning people to death for adultery.

Valkie wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

cods wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:15pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:02pm: cods wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 7:29am: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:41pm: cods wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:26am: n o pet......look we have extremists  far right d/heads...Islam  I am sure is a religion of extreme faith.. I mean to pray 5 times a day takes a lot of doing I would think.. I think there are many Muslims who wish ISIS would shout AMEN .. if this was a Christian mob do you think you would hate all Christians... ::) ::) ::) ::) Very sensible, cods, but the big difference is that murdering for Islam is STILL in the DNA of Islam in 2017. To Muslims, it's still the 7th century as far as religious, political, social and interpersonal matters are concerned. They may have technology but ideological and religious purity means sticking with the 7th century world. They don't just behead you for religious impurity, they can now also use a mobile phone to blow you up. But in the hearts they are as rancorous, revengeful and spiteful as they have been for 1400 years. It is the stupidest of religions -and they will murder you for saying it, for leaving it, for not submitting to it. No wonder. How else can you make people be tuck in the 7th century?? Who else has apostasy laws? Who else has blasphemy laws? Who else is avowedly backward and blinkered to the tune of 1400 years?? It's like as if you adhered to the mores, standards, customs of the Roman Empire. Unthinkable for anyone but Muslims. For them, it's a principle to be living as if it was still the antiquties. a lot ,of religious groups  live in the past frank...Mormans/Amish/Jews/7th day adventists... we even have those who believe their leader is actually GOD....I know! ::) as far as I am concerned  they are brainwashed...but they DO exist. of course they dont go around killing people...but that doesnt mean they do not do evil things.... ::) ::) But have you noticed that all these primitives (as you appear to think) are not involved in terrorism, murder or child rape condoned by their faith. There is only one CULT that is so primitive, so brutal and so pathetically insane that these are the norm in any country that they infect.................ta da ....introducing the muzzos. I can only guess you havent read much on these PRIMITIVE cults... and as we know....with Islam its only the EXTREMISTS that are mad...... sadly thanks to modern technology they infiltrate the rest of the world very easily... dont get me wrong I do see a difference....BUT.. I just see terrorists and just that evil terrorists.... I dont see them as men of god.. unlike yourself.. I prefer to believe a god would never condone what mankind is doing in 2017..... they kill us  we kill them.. :( The problem is that the terrorists are protected by the so called moderates. The moderates call for murder, beheading etc. The imrans preach murder and call the terrorists martyrs. The whole CULT is riddled with insane nut cases.

not all..... like not all Catholic priests molest children..

all I am suggesting is be reasonable...

one or two people on here are totally unreasonable when it comes to conversation...

I find this worse than those who get carried away with they blind belief that all Muslims are killers...

I will stick my head out and say not one of the members here  have even been to the Middle East let alone know about its true cause...

all we get is c&p.. which we all know is usually produced by the same persons   who claim all sorts of things.. as being justified.. or being evil  depending who they are calling names...

if we ever wish to find a solution to what is a growing concern to the world..

then first and foremost we must listen...if you want the decent Muslims we have living in our country..

then you must encourage them not abuse them..

if someone tells you they hate you every day of your life.. I am not surprised if they turn on you..

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not all..... like not all Catholic priests molest children.. all I am suggesting is be reasonable...

Find me a country where the majority of catholics support child abuse.