So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now?

>:(

Link.

It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out.

issuevoter wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out.

Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 1:22pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia.

It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military.

When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily? 

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link.

;D Ridiculous

The Philippines is 92% Christian

It would be a more likely scenario in Indonesia.

It's 87.2% Muslim and has the province of Banda Aceh that already enforces Sharia Law.

Julie Bishop should shut up with this distraction

and deal with the issue of the genocide of West Papuans at the hands of Indonesia.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:39pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military. When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily?

How did Islam spread from Arabia to Spain? Why did those people in between give up their old ideology? Peaceful persuasion? How did it spread from Arabia to India and beyond and those people give up Buddhism, Hinduism etc? Peaceful persuasion?

How were European pagans converted by the Christians? Peaceful persuasion? How did the Catholics convert the Americas? Let me guess, peaceful persuasion.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:39pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military. When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily?  How did Islam spread from Arabia to Spain? Why did those people in between give up their old ideology? Peaceful persuasion?

Just as peacefully as the Pacific Islanders gave up theirs for Christianity, or the Africans gave up theirs.

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."  Desmond Tutu.

And "Islam"  was booted out.  Less than 4% now on the Iberian Peninsular.  Military action was not about religion.  It was territorial.  Do you think we are in Arabia with our guns and planes and bombs to impose Christianity?

Link.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:22pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:39pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military. When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily?  How did Islam spread from Arabia to Spain? Why did those people in between give up their old ideology? Peaceful persuasion? Just as peacefully as the Pacific Islanders gave up theirs for Christianity, or the Africans gave up theirs. "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."  Desmond Tutu.

That might work when one side has a civilisation that is culturally and technologically much more advanced. It doesn't work when both sides are.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:22pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:39pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military. When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily?  How did Islam spread from Arabia to Spain? Why did those people in between give up their old ideology? Peaceful persuasion? Just as peacefully as the Pacific Islanders gave up theirs for Christianity, or the Africans gave up theirs. "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."  Desmond Tutu. And Islam was booted out.  Less than 4% now on the Iberian Peninsular. Link.

Let me guess, by peaceful persuasion?

See my edit.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:34pm:

See my edit.

Where?

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:22pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:39pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:22pm: issuevoter wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:09pm: It will be aided and abetted by the Sultan of Brunei, who is just across the water in Northern Borneo, and has already declared he will introduce Sharia Law. Being one of the richest men in the world, he will repeat the Saudi support and defense of the Wahabs, and we all know how well that turned out. Who cares.....so long as they keep their crap out of Australia.  Let me know if they ever step a military foot on the northern most bit of Australia. It's their ideology that is the problem, not their military. When was the last time an ideology (I mean one based on a religion) was defeated militarily?  How did Islam spread from Arabia to Spain? Why did those people in between give up their old ideology? Peaceful persuasion? Just as peacefully as the Pacific Islanders gave up theirs for Christianity, or the Africans gave up theirs. "When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."  Desmond Tutu. And "Islam"  was booted out.  Less than 4% now on the Iberian Peninsular.  Military action was not about religion.  It was territorial.  Do you think we are in Arabia with our guns and planes and bombs to impose Christianity? Link.

Here.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where?

OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system.

I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that.

Why? It just is.

I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Just as peacefully as the Pacific Islanders gave up theirs for Christianity, or the Africans gave up theirs.

It stopped cannibalism in the Pacific and reduced slavery in Africa.


Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."  Desmond Tutu.

Damn right.

Africans from all over the continent risked their lives making their way to find work wherever the White Man had settled.

And now that the land and the governments have been returned to the Blacks ... what do we see?

Wholesale rape, murder, and property crime - so much so that our Leftwing mainstream media has closed down on any reporting from the Dark Continent.

Duterte surly will take the gloves off against the Islamic separatist.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that.

Islamic sacred text demands rule by theocracy ... 

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It stopped cannibalism in the Pacific and reduced slavery in Africa.

You have to be kidding me. 

Link.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:44pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that. Why? It just is. I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that.

How exactly, is it any more about politics than Christianity/Judaism ~ Zionism/Catholicism?

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:44pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that. Why? It just is. I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that.

It's a bit like people who grew up in families who eat liver.  :) My issue is with so called progressives who accept things that would send them into an apoplectic rage if a non brown person did it.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:44pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that. Why? It just is. I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that. How exactly, is it any more about politics than Christianity/Judaism ~ Zionism/Catholicism?

Because it is :)

Israel is not perfect but it's a democracy,  even has AyRabs in parliament

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Duterte surly will take the gloves off against the Islamic separatist.

That would be something to see.

I congratulate Julie Bishop for being an admirer of Duterte with his sanitizing Pest Eradication program of the Philippines' drug pushers. If the Nobel Prizes committee wasn't stiff with Far Leftwing Social-Marxists it would most probably be planning to award Duterte a Nobel Prize for being the world's first political leader to be a genuine activist against the drugs scourge.



'Bishop said the controversial Philippines president, Rodrigo Duterte, gave her detailed reasoning for his controversial war on drugs that has left thousands dead since he took office nine months ago.

“He is intent on wiping out the drug lords ... he is unapologetic, he is determined to rid the Philippines of ice and he will stop at nothing,” Bishop told Sky News on Sunday.

She said that, during her official visit to the Philippines earlier this month, the president went into considerable detail about how drugs were one of the biggest issues facing his country with 4 million people, particularly young people, addicted to ice'.

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:55pm: How exactly, is it any more about politics than Christianity/Judaism ~ Zionism/Catholicism? Because it is :)

Becuz we say so, ass'ole!  ;D

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:46pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:44pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:37pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:34pm: See my edit. Where? OK, got it. Military action can be about many things but it is not limited to territory. War is an extension of politics. Islam is a political as well as a religious system. I guess we will have to wait for Hanson's Royal Commission before we can say that. Why? It just is. I don't pay out on people that follow Islam, most are like most Aussies that to not give a toss about politics, but the ideology is political at it's core, there can be no doubt about that. How exactly, is it any more about politics than Christianity/Judaism ~ Zionism/Catholicism?

Those have been stripped of their political power. Islam has not. It is written into it that Islam is above man's(secular) law. They never had the same political core. Give unto Caesar.

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Those have been stripped of their political power.

How, by whom and when?

So we've got Indonesia accepting massive cultural exchange from KSA and increasing Islamic fundimentalism in philippines.

Nothing to see here

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 8:22pm:

So we've got Indonesia accepting massive cultural exchange from KSA and increasing Islamic fundimentalism in philippines. Nothing to see here

... and their military personnel are being trained by Australians.  :o

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when?

Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

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Tell me, why do you support Islam?

I don't.  I disagree with the hysterical attacks upon it and those who are Muslim.


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I'd argue all religions should disappear.

I'd agree with you.


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You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

Not on this Forum.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

Approach it from reverse.

If a supporter of Islam found a progressive liberal society,  which Islamic traditions would they suggesting be adopted?

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. [quote]Tell me, why do you support Islam?

I don't.  I disagree with the hysterical attacks upon it and those who are Muslim.


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I'd argue all religions should disappear.

I'd agree with you.


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You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

Not on this Forum.[/quote]

That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it.

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. Approach it from reverse. If a supporter of Islam found a progressive liberal society,  which Islamic traditions would they suggesting be adopted?

I'm not a Muslim, I can't answer. But just as many other people are pretty apolitical, so are many Moslems. They just want to live their lives.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. [quote]Tell me, why do you support Islam? I don't.  I disagree with the hysterical attacks upon it and those who are Muslim. [quote]I'd argue all religions should disappear.

I'd agree with you.


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Not on this Forum.[/quote]

That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it.
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At some point you have to confront the holders of the beliefs.

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. [quote]Tell me, why do you support Islam? I don't.  I disagree with the hysterical attacks upon it and those who are Muslim. [quote]I'd argue all religions should disappear. I'd agree with you. [quote]You can support Muslims without supporting Islam.

Not on this Forum.[/quote]

That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it.
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At some point you have to confront the holders of the beliefs.
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Holders of the belief vary in their fundamentalism to said belief. If that were not so we would have Christians running amok.

You can hold the ideology in disdain without taring every adherent equally.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link.

What happened to Arabs for Arabia Arsie?

Islam is a type of Arab imperialism, why do muslims change their name to an Arabic one after embracing that delusion?

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That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it.

That's easy.  If you stay out of the firing line, keep below the radar, you'll never cop flack.  Get down to the 'Islam' and or 'Extremism Exposed' Sub Forums and engage regularly, hold your ground with your point of view, and you'll cop some flack.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:14pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:11pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:03pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Quote: Those have been stripped of their political power. How, by whom and when? Sanity. The enlightenment, the age of reason, Islam was untouched by it. Tell me, why do you support Islam? I'd argue all religions should disappear. You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. [quote]Tell me, why do you support Islam? I don't.  I disagree with the hysterical attacks upon it and those who are Muslim. [quote]I'd argue all religions should disappear. I'd agree with you. [quote]You can support Muslims without supporting Islam. Not on this Forum.

That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it.
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At some point you have to confront the holders of the beliefs.
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Holders of the belief vary in their fundamentalism to said belief. If that were not so we would have Christians running amok.

You can hold the ideology in disdain without taring every adherent equally.
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As I do :)

I just set my threshold for what I find acceptable for a progressive liberal democracy much lower.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Quote: That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it. That's easy.  If you stay out of the firing line, keep below the radar, you'll never cop flack.  Get down to the 'Islam' and or 'Extremism Exposed' Sub Forums and engage regularly, hold your ground with your point of view, and you'll cop some flack.

I've made my position clear many times. Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck? That is exactly what it looked like above.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. What happened to Arabs for Arabia Arsie? Islam is a type of Arab imperialism, why do muslims change their name to an Arabic one after embracing that delusion?

Nothing.  Arabia is for Arabs.....Islamic ones, Jewish ones (not the new invaders into Israel), Calathumpian ones.

No idea.  Could not care less.  Maybe for the same sort of reason Western woman, when they marry, adopt the surname of their Husbands.  Dumb idea, but WTF.  Hardly a big deal is it.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. What happened to Arabs for Arabia Arsie? Islam is a type of Arab imperialism, why do muslims change their name to an Arabic one after embracing that delusion?

What is your Christian name Baron? John, Jacob, Isaac? Mine's celtic.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:22pm: Quote: That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it. That's easy.  If you stay out of the firing line, keep below the radar, you'll never cop flack.  Get down to the 'Islam' and or 'Extremism Exposed' Sub Forums and engage regularly, hold your ground with your point of view, and you'll cop some flack. I've made my position clear many times. Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck? That is exactly what it looked like above.

I have never come unstuck.  I especially know that when people start awarding themselves the winner's cheque.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. What happened to Arabs for Arabia Arsie? Islam is a type of Arab imperialism, why do muslims change their name to an Arabic one after embracing that delusion? What is your Christian name Baron? John, Jacob, Isaac? Mine's celtic.

My family was so secular I didn't know what a Christian name was until high school.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:26pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:22pm: Quote: That's always been my position. I haven't copped flack for it. That's easy.  If you stay out of the firing line, keep below the radar, you'll never cop flack.  Get down to the 'Islam' and or 'Extremism Exposed' Sub Forums and engage regularly, hold your ground with your point of view, and you'll cop some flack. I've made my position clear many times. Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck? That is exactly what it looked like above. I have never come unstuck.  I especially know that when people start awarding themselves the winner's cheque.

Like shyte to a blanket? ;D I'm not awarding myself anything. You were defending Islam above, not Muslims, which is why I asked "why are you defending Islam?"

Oh yeas you are Setanta.


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Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck?

That is a judgement call which declares yourself a winner.

You ask 'why is Aussie defending Islam' out of ignorance of what I have posted many times in those Sub Forums.

The Philippines Moro insurgency has been going for nearly 50 years and no Philippine government has ever come close to victory against them. Every time the government intervenes more Philippinos join the insurgency.

A ragtag bunch of Philippinos of not more than 250 men nearly took over the Malaysian State of Sabah several years ago. They killed a few police and other people, lost 50+ pf their own killed and then negotiated their way out.



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2013 Lahad Datu standoff From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 2013 Lahad Datu standoff Date      11 February 2013 – 24 March 2013[7] (1 month, 1 week and 6 days) Location      Tanduo, Lahad Datu, Semporna, Kunak and Tawau in eastern Sabah Result       Decisive Malaysian victory.[8][9] Military operations replaced by ESSCOM and ESSZONE.[10][11] Those detained were charged under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012. Thousands of illegal immigrants in Sabah repatriated back to their countries.[1][12][13] 235 (Filipino media)[16][17] 400 (Kiram claimed)[18][19]      6,500+ (7 battalions) Casualties and losses 56 killed 3 wounded 149 captured 68 killed (Malaysian Government claimed)[6] 10 killed (1 non-combat casualty)[note 2] 12 wounded Civilian casualties 6 killed 1 wounded 6 escaped[note 3] 564 arrested[note 4] All statistics reference:[7][20][21][22] Note: All these total only during the standoff and does not include the total in any further actions. The 2013 Lahad Datu standoff (also known as the Lahad Datu incursion) was a military conflict that started on 11 February 2013 and fully ended on 24 March 2013.[7] The standoff arose after 235 militants, some of whom were armed,[16] arrived by boats in Lahad Datu, Sabah, Malaysia from Simunul island, Tawi-Tawi, in the southern Philippines, on 11 February 2013.[14][23][24] The group, calling themselves the "Royal Security Forces of the Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo",[14] was sent by Jamalul Kiram III, one of the claimants to the throne of the Sultanate of Sulu. Kiram III stated that their objective was to assert the unresolved territorial claim of the Philippines to eastern Sabah (the former North Borneo).[25] Malaysian security forces surrounded the village of Tanduo in Lahad Datu where the group had gathered and, after several weeks of negotiations and unmet deadlines for the intruders to withdraw, the Malaysian security forces attacked and routed the Sulu militants. At the end of the standoff, around 56 militants were killed together with 6 civilians and 10 Malaysian security forces. National territorial dispute[edit] Main articles: North Borneo dispute and Madrid Protocol of 1885 The Philippines retains a dormant territorial claim to eastern Sabah, formerly known as North Borneo, through the heritage of the Sultanate of Sulu.[24][26] The basis of this claim is that the dominion of the sultanate has historically spanned from the Sulu Archipelago into parts of northern Borneo. ...

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Oh yeas you are Setanta. Quote: Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck? That is a judgement call which declares yourself a winner. You ask 'why is Aussie defending Islam' out of ignorance of what I have posted many times in those Sub Forums.

I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". You do come unstuck because it appears you support Islam. Make a clear distinction. Put Islam where it belongs, under pig shyte, hold Muslims as fellow men, not all with your best interests at heart but neither do some of the members of other groups. However most just want to live their lives.

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I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!".

;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". ;D ;D

Does that mean I win? ;)

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". ;D ;D Does that mean I win? ;)

It means you thought you did.

:D

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". ;D ;D Does that mean I win? ;) It means you thought you did. :D

It doesn't you know. Does that mean you win? :-/

Others can decide that.  Not me.

Like the house of Saud, the Sultan of Brunei owns huge investments in the West. He wields immense power quietly, and consequently, he has influence in Western government. The reason Saud and Brunei are not on Trumps ban list, or for that matter under restrictions of the Bush administration, was because they are in business with our leadership social echelon. Ever wonder why they don't do anything about the Wahabs who created bin laden?

Muzlim immigration is only one part of the expansion of Islam. Buying in, is another. People like Sadiq Khan are yet another.

The Sultan saw the possiblility of his family losing power, and so he feigned Islamic piety by introducing Sharia Law, which would have made opposition not only illegal, but sacrilegious. At the last moment he decided to postpone Sharia, because it was a little too inflammitary for his Western business partners to accept, but that will change as more politicians like Sadiq Khan get into power. For example, secular Turkey is history.

In the mean time, Brunei will be the staging camp for ISIS moving into the southern Philippines where they already have a foothold. And while this happens, shizzenkopfs like Gandalf, Brian Ross (Doctor of Divinity), John Smith, Mothra, and Greg, will insist its only a figment of the imagination of Islamophobes. The stunning thing about their perception is that they can see a video of a beheading, and pretend it is not real religion.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Others can decide that.  Not me.

Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me.

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Others can decide that.  Not me. Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me.

Others can decide that, not me.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:02pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Others can decide that.  Not me. Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me. Others can decide that, not me.

I have no problem with that.

What would it matter if you did?

;D

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:02pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Others can decide that.  Not me. Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me. Others can decide that, not me. I have no problem with that.

https://youtu.be/J-GkwIRbLw8

issuevoter wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Like the house of Saud, the Sultan of Brunei owns huge investments in the West. He wields immense power quietly, and consequently, he has influence in Western government. The reason Saud and Brunei are not on Trumps ban list, or for that matter under restrictions of the Bush administration, was because they are in business with our leadership social echelon. Ever wonder why they don't do anything about the Wahabs who created bin laden? Muzlim immigration is only one part of the expansion of Islam. Buying in, is another. People like Sadiq Khan are yet another. The Sultan saw the possiblility of his family losing power, and so he feigned Islamic piety by introducing Sharia Law, which would have made opposition not only illegal, but sacrilegious. At the last moment he decided to postpone Sharia, because it was a little too inflammitary for his Western business partners to accept, but that will change as more politicians like Sadiq Khan get into power. For example, secular Turkey is history. In the mean time, Brunei will be the staging camp for ISIS moving into the southern Philippines where they already have a foothold. And while this happens, shizzenkopfs like Gandalf, Brian Ross (Doctor of Divinity), John Smith, Mothra, and Greg, will insist its only a figment of the imagination of Islamophobes. The stunning thing about their perception is that they can see a video of a beheading, and pretend it is not real religion.

Is that more hideous than a drone strike that kills women and children as collateral damage? Or a drone strike that kills a wedding party by mistake? Or a drone strike that kills mourners at a funeral for those killed in a drone strike.

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

What would it matter if you did? ;D

It wouldn't. . As in, "I have no problem with that."  ::)

So why make the post at all?  Bored?

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:11pm:

So why make the post at all?  Bored?

Why make your posts? Here you go, if you want it judged publicly, make a poll and see how it goes for you.

I think you got your nose out of joint with the shyte to a blanket thing and you're trying to save face. ;D

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link.

send em to Tasmania maybe... some idiot said thats a good place to send the great unwanted.. ::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 8:09am:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. send em to Tasmania maybe... some idiot said thats a good place to send the great unwanted.. ::) ::) ::)

Jayzus! It's ferked I tells ya

Gordon wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 9:41am:

cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:09am: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. send em to Tasmania maybe... some idiot said thats a good place to send the great unwanted.. ::) ::) ::) Jayzus! It's ferked I tells ya

are you trying to tell me something gordy?

cods wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 9:46am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 9:41am: cods wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:09am: Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm: So, what are you gonna do, Bishop, other than gibber chin wag and trash talk in the scgmedia.  Invade the Philippines, now? >:( Link. send em to Tasmania maybe... some idiot said thats a good place to send the great unwanted.. ::) ::) ::) Jayzus! It's ferked I tells ya are you trying to tell me something gordy?

What do you think of Aussies simplistic Bishop wants to invade Philippines comments?

I'd say there's some close intelligence sharing between Australia and Philippines on the threat of IS setting up there.

Gordon wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

My family was so secular I didn't know what a Christian name was until high school.

... and by that time High Schools in Australia were stiff with kids of non-Christian background.