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Message started by Panther on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 5:59pm

Title: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 5:59pm
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President Donald Trump Says He Feels ‘Somewhat’ Vindicated by House Intel Chairman’s Disclosure on Surveillance.


➤ ➤ ➤   Find out about it here....




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Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm
That says it all, Panther. Good work.

Obama will be in handcuffs by Easter.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by boxy on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 7:02pm
Everyone in America is spied upon... ya Patriot Act!

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 7:03pm
link doesn't work  ... much like trump

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 8:23pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 7:03pm:
link doesn't work  ... much like trump


Now now, you stop telling fibs.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 8:46pm
from what i've read the wiretapping was incidental the targets were Rusian nationals and happened to then pick up Trump officials

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by issuevoter on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:01pm
Here is what Nunes said:

“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored. It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.”

Of course a Republican would not stretch the details to fit Trumps accusation, but it is hardly public evidence that . . . "Obama wiretapped Donald Trump."

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:10pm
he guessed? that proves it. Panther was right, trump is vindicated



does anyone know just how stupid thrumpoids can get ?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:22pm
Spied 'upon'...

Even the OP doesn't believe it.


Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:58pm
A handful of trump people were cuaght because they contacted russian agents.  The reasno they were contacting so many russian is however important.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 10:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
A handful of trump people were cuaght because they contacted russian agents.  The reasno they were contacting so many russian is however important.


Prove it. Panther has already proven Obama's lies. McCarthyism!

Case closed, leftards.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Marla on Mar 26th, 2017 at 2:58am

Big Donger wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
That says it all, Panther. Good work.

Obama will be in handcuffs by Easter.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.


Hey asshole, go to about @4:05 in:
https://youtu.be/Qy2z2QQQKUU


Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2017 at 7:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:58pm:
A handful of trump people were cuaght because they contacted russian agents.  The reasno they were contacting so many russian is however important.


Do you mean that the Trump team were coincidentally communicating with the Russians who were trying to rig the election in Trumps favour at the time ?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Dnarever on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:01am

Marla wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 2:58am:

Big Donger wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
That says it all, Panther. Good work.

Obama will be in handcuffs by Easter.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.


Hey asshole, go to about @4:05 in:
https://youtu.be/Qy2z2QQQKUU


worth a look. Poor fella trying to defend Trump.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:50am

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:10pm:
does anyone know just how stupid thrumpoids can get ?


It's on display so yeah, we all see it, other than those falling for it.

Trump regurgitated the ramblings of Fox News, then something vaguely similar comes out and his supporters feel that he's vindicated?

Have they not realised that those in Trumps team who may have been incidentally monitored was because they were communicating with a foreign targets of surveillance, namely Russian agents?

This isn't a win for Trump...

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:55am

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:50am:
Have they not realised that those in Trumps team who may have been incidentally monitored was because they were communicating with a foreign targets of surveillance, namely Russian agents?


You may simply be unaware of this revelation by the house in telligence committee chairman, but longweekend has been made aware of it, yet continues to repeat what he knows to be false.


Quote:
I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities



Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:02am

... wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:55am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:50am:
Have they not realised that those in Trumps team who may have been incidentally monitored was because they were communicating with a foreign targets of surveillance, namely Russian agents?


You may simply be unaware of this revelation by the house in telligence committee chairman, but longweekend has been made aware of it, yet continues to repeat what he knows to be false.


Quote:
I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities



source?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:05am
I beg your pardon. 

House intelligence committee chairman devin nunes' press conference:

http://www.ajc.com/news/national/read-transcripts-rep-devin-nunes-news-conferences-about-trump-surveillance/NdZ4qQv7uBnjcH9E3HSRPJ/


Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:11am
thanks

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:22am
I stand corrected.

So from your link, it also claims that the surveillance while it may not have been targeting Russia, it also wasn't targeting Trump or his team, but still foreign targets.

I wonder who the targets were and why the Trump team were communicating with them.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:31am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:01am:

Marla wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 2:58am:

Big Donger wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
That says it all, Panther. Good work.

Obama will be in handcuffs by Easter.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.


Hey asshole, go to about @4:05 in:
https://youtu.be/Qy2z2QQQKUU


worth a look. Poor fella trying to defend Trump.


Leftards.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:48am

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:10pm:
he guessed? that proves it. Panther was right, trump is vindicated



does anyone know just how stupid thrumpoids can get ?


It's a good question, as they seem to have exceeded all previous boundaries.

My guess is, the sky's the limit there is no limit.


Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 11:48am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 9:10pm:
he guessed? that proves it. Panther was right, trump is vindicated



does anyone know just how stupid thrumpoids can get ?


It's a good question, as they seem to have exceeded all previous boundaries.

My guess is, the sky's the limit there is no limit.



I dont think we could possibly have predicted that TRump would be as incompetent and as corrupt as he has shown. Only trump could have come in BELOW expectations that were already at ground-level

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Richdude on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am

... wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:55am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:50am:
Have they not realised that those in Trumps team who may have been incidentally monitored was because they were communicating with a foreign targets of surveillance, namely Russian agents?


You may simply be unaware of this revelation by the house in telligence committee chairman, but longweekend has been made aware of it, yet continues to repeat what he knows to be false.


Quote:
I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia, or the investigation of Russian activities


We know that Trump was spied upon by Obama. The cover story has been that Russia was involved to justify the FISA grants.

Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Marla on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:50am

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
We know that Trump was spied upon by Obama. The cover story has been that Russia was involved to justify the FISA grants.


Links? Evidence?


Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.



Links? Evidence?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:00am

Marla wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:50am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
We know that Trump was spied upon by Obama. The cover story has been that Russia was involved to justify the FISA grants.


Links? Evidence?


Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.



Links? Evidence?


richwanker is not going to provide sources or sources from reputable places. Trumpoids and other mental defectives, dont do that.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:16am

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.


One doesn't need to spy on Trump to get dirt on him.  The problem is he has just enough of a celebrity status, and he loves to boast about how wealthy he is and that as President he'll make things better for everyone, that none of the dirt sticks.

He's lucky that the electorate were so desperate for representation and felt so let down by those before them that a Billionaire Conman was seen as the one who would be their representative and the forgotten people would be forgotten no longer.

When the penny drops there are going to be a lot of ashamed voters who can't believe they fell for it and with them, a lot of people who will refuse tooth and nail to admit they were wrong and double down, even when it means supporting actions that are clearly against their own best interests, aka, TrumpCare.

It's clear which camp you'll fall into mate.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 11:33am

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.


One doesn't need to spy on Trump to get dirt on him.  The problem is he has just enough of a celebrity status, and he loves to boast about how wealthy he is and that as President he'll make things better for everyone, that none of the dirt sticks.

He's lucky that the electorate were so desperate for representation and felt so let down by those before them that a Billionaire Conman was seen as the one who would be their representative and the forgotten people would be forgotten no longer.

When the penny drops there are going to be a lot of ashamed voters who can't believe they fell for it and with them, a lot of people who will refuse tooth and nail to admit they were wrong and double down, even when it means supporting actions that are clearly against their own best interests, aka, TrumpCare.

It's clear which camp you'll fall into mate.


The 'Camp of Fools'.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 11:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.


One doesn't need to spy on Trump to get dirt on him.  The problem is he has just enough of a celebrity status, and he loves to boast about how wealthy he is and that as President he'll make things better for everyone, that none of the dirt sticks.

He's lucky that the electorate were so desperate for representation and felt so let down by those before them that a Billionaire Conman was seen as the one who would be their representative and the forgotten people would be forgotten no longer.

When the penny drops there are going to be a lot of ashamed voters who can't believe they fell for it and with them, a lot of people who will refuse tooth and nail to admit they were wrong and double down, even when it means supporting actions that are clearly against their own best interests, aka, TrumpCare.

It's clear which camp you'll fall into mate.


The 'Camp of Fools'.


Long Live the New Sheriff in Town, President Donald John Trump   
&   
Good Riddance to Barrack Hussein Obama, the Ex-HNIC




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Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm
Racist

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:31pm

Panther wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 11:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:35am:
Obama was looking to get the dirt on Trump - he came up short. What a POS Obama is.


One doesn't need to spy on Trump to get dirt on him.  The problem is he has just enough of a celebrity status, and he loves to boast about how wealthy he is and that as President he'll make things better for everyone, that none of the dirt sticks.

He's lucky that the electorate were so desperate for representation and felt so let down by those before them that a Billionaire Conman was seen as the one who would be their representative and the forgotten people would be forgotten no longer.

When the penny drops there are going to be a lot of ashamed voters who can't believe they fell for it and with them, a lot of people who will refuse tooth and nail to admit they were wrong and double down, even when it means supporting actions that are clearly against their own best interests, aka, TrumpCare.

It's clear which camp you'll fall into mate.


The 'Camp of Fools'.


Long Live the New Sheriff in Town, President Donald John Trump   
&   
Good Riddance to Barrack Hussein Obama, the Ex-HNIC




..



A sheriff who to date has accomplished absolutely nothing.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:35pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist


Wait a sec, Ex-HNIC doesn't mean Ex-Head Negro In Charge does it!?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist


Wait a sec, Ex-HNIC doesn't mean Ex-Head Negro In Charge does it!?



Well you're close.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:54pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist


Wait a sec, Ex-HNIC doesn't mean Ex-Head Negro In Charge does it!?



Well you're close.


Well that puts all of his other posts into context :(

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:55pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist


Wait a sec, Ex-HNIC doesn't mean Ex-Head Negro In Charge does it!?



Well you're close.


Well that puts all of his other posts into context :(




Indeed, sane left him ages ago and forgot to leave a forwarding address

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:20pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist


Wait a sec, Ex-HNIC doesn't mean Ex-Head Negro In Charge does it!?



Well you're close.


Well that puts all of his other posts into context :(


He is a blatant and unashamed complete racist. So naturally he is a trumpoid.

Surveys have shown that 82% of Trump supporters are racist.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:24pm
Ahh.  We can file that "study" with the one you keeo talking about that proves trump supporters have an iq of 89.  Strangely, nobody else has seen that one either.

Longweekend is hilarious in his ridiculousness.  Hes really gone off yhd deep end.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:49pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
Ahh.  We can file that "study" with the one you keeo talking about that proves trump supporters have an iq of 89.  Strangely, nobody else has seen that one either.

Longweekend is hilarious in his ridiculousness.  Hes really gone off yhd deep end.



Give me 30mins and I will come up with some photos and examples of surveys that confirm all this and more...  I will need to get my software ready...


damn, you are stupid. You believe ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING that supports trump and vice versa. That literally makes your opinions worthless as they can be predicted 100% of the time with 100% accuracy.

worthless dimwit.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:55pm
Sure - you have 30 minutes.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:57pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:55pm:
Sure - you have 30 minutes.



wow... your ignorance even extends to not realising when you are being mocked.

idiot.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:03pm
Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Quite why you think you can make this poo up while crying "fake news" at everyone else and not get called on it is beyond me.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:13pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Quite why you think you can make this poo up while crying "fake news" at everyone else and not get called on it is beyond me.



You can read it all in many many places.  Just not in the fake news sites you seem to inhabit.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Quite why you think you can make this poo up while crying "fake news" at everyone else and not get called on it is beyond me.



You can read it all in many many places.  Just not in the fake news sites you seem to inhabit.


And another thing - accusing me of only reading breitbart and infowars doesnt make it true either.  I dont read either, but if i did, id trust them more than those outlets with long track records of peddling false narratives.  Why would I trust entities that have proven time and again to be untrustworthy?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:26pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Racist





Thanks......



Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 28th, 2017 at 4:39pm

Panther wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:26pm:
Thanks......


Nothing to be proud of there Bobby...

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 4:44pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Quite why you think you can make this poo up while crying "fake news" at everyone else and not get called on it is beyond me.



You can read it all in many many places.  Just not in the fake news sites you seem to inhabit.


And another thing - accusing me of only reading breitbart and infowars doesnt make it true either.  I dont read either, but if i did, id trust them more than those outlets with long track records of peddling false narratives.  Why would I trust entities that have proven time and again to be untrustworthy?



so in summary YOU do read only conspiracy sites and other unreliable sources and you eschew the mainstream media with its trackrecord of honest and accuracy.

Of course you do!  You are a mindless drone.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:05pm
So in summary i do the opposite of what I  say I do, because you say so.

::)

Is this what you call debate longweekend?


Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:10pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:05pm:
So in summary i do the opposite of what I  say I do, because you say so.

::)

Is this what you call debate longweekend?



YOU said you reject the MSM.  That leaves you with conspiracy sites.

QED

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:11pm
Nope, its not a binary.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:13pm

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
Nope, its not a binary.



then clarify your sources then.

Make your case, but try to use actual REAL information.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:22pm
Why?  You and I both know your position is non negotiable.




Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:02am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
YOU said you reject the MSM.  That leaves you with conspiracy sites.

QED


I thought we were meant to believe that the MSM were the conspiracy sites these days...

What a world...  Thanks Trump.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:03am

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
Why?  You and I both know your position is non negotiable.


He's not the only one interested in reading more you know?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:29am

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:03am:

... wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
Why?  You and I both know your position is non negotiable.


He's not the only one interested in reading more you know?



Honky just sticks to his preferred narrative and nothing will ever changed him.

But have you notices how the trump supporters on here have gotten a WHOLE LOT QUIETER as the weeks go on?  They are obviously realising that Trump is a big disappointment to... everyone and more of a clown than we thought possible.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:14am
Nah, we just realise there's no point engaging with you people. 

This is honky, signing off.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:26am

... wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:14am:
Nah, we just realise there's no point engaging with you people. 

This is honky, signing off.


Oh look, he's gone.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:35am

... wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:14am:
Nah, we just realise there's no point engaging with you people.


I don't think it's unfair that you should live by the same standard you demand of those critical of Trump.

Do you?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 11:30am

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:35am:

... wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:14am:
Nah, we just realise there's no point engaging with you people.


I don't think it's unfair that you should live by the same standard you demand of those critical of Trump.

Do you?


Honky thinks it's so unfair he's having a sulk. For Honky, to dismiss Trump's absurd wiretap allegation is a porkie pie.

But claiming to have read unreleased, top-secret afadavits is okay. It's not a porkie, even when you acknowledge that you haven't read any such thing. It's more of a -

I'm not sure. Honky won't say.

He's too disappointed to talk to us.

Title: The Leftist MSM proven wrong......again
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 12:16pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 4:39pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 3:26pm:
Thanks......


Nothing to be proud of there Bobby...


Words spewed by the Extremist Left.....like LW58.....don't bother me at all, in fact knowing I accomplished hitting a nerve.....that in the end he wields no power to stop the presentation of facts except, in his mind, calling me...& everyone else he disagrees with....a RACIST....has no power or meaning whatsoever.

When people not of his or their ilk hear or see RACIST, they just snicker, roll their eyes, & shrug their shoulders.....the term has been so overused & abused, for every little thing, that it no longer means what it once did....like I said...it has no power anymore.

That's why I thank him, & any asshole like him, for admitting defeat & using the last thing he can think of to attack the messenger, rather than the message.....a useless word.

The more he uses the RACIST tact, to try & stop the messages he has no valid answers to, the more he proves he has lost the debate.....he cedes the high ground.....he waves his white flag with his self-serving gilded tongue.

This is what the Extreme Left errantly believes in:

Rather than intellectually disputing the facts within the message because they simply can't, they'd prefer to fail miserably in attempting to childishly attack the messenger.... again, & again ad nauseam....









Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 29th, 2017 at 1:58pm
So where is the message in calling Obama HNIC?

How can I attack a message which is so absurd as to defy categorisation.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:05pm
Panther, everybody here knows Longy to be a member of the extremist right, or what Longy would call the sensible centre-right.

Longy's extremism appears in his hysterical support of socially conservative policies and his rusted-on attachment to the Libs, no matter what they do.

It doesn't help in a debate to get the political views of others so wrong, but your assumption that critics of Trump must be members of the extremist left is deeply flawed. Personally, I find the left/right dichotomy to be rather passé, particularly when it comes to a figure like Trump.

Trump's key advisor, Steve Bannon, describes himself as a Leninist, and he's not being completely tongue-in-cheek when he says this. Trump is a wrecker, not a conservative. The only thing Trump seeks to conserve is his vanity and his wealth - in that order. Trump is a person who sought to become president just so that he could include it in his Twitter profile. He is not wedded to any of his campaign policies, most of them patched together for convenience sake or because they sounded good when they came out of his mouth.

Your faith in Trump's conviction is built upon the sand. Trump is a celebrity playing at being a president. His act is based on his role in the Apprentice as the decisive, hard-hitting boss. You need to understand that this is just showbiz - the candidates, the boardroom, the product-placement, and Trump's character itself. Essentially, it's all fake.

Many of the rusted-ons acknowledge this. Aquascoot understands it. They see Trump as just a do-nothing president, who somehow, will make Amerika great again through the sheer force of his will.

This is a fallacy too. Presidents only make things happen through four ways:

1. Their role as Commander In Chief of the US military.
2. Their role in working with Congress to create legislation.
3. Their role in working with the congress and the senate to fund agencies and impose (or cut) taxes.
4. Their role in nominating appointments for the agencies and the courts.

So far, Trump has failed in most of these areas. Let's look at a few examples.

1. Trump's recent Syrian bombing killed more civilians than Operation Iraqi Freedom, the initial strikes in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
2. Trump's failure to repeal Obamacare - a key campaign policy.
3. Trump's budget ideas and his ambitious infrastructure plans are yet to be tested, as is the raising of the debt ceiling, which needs to pass both houses for the US is to remain in business.
4. Most of the key agency positions remain unfilled.

Trump is neither left nor right. So far, he's just a failure. You may want to give him more time as you continually assert, but for the rest of the world, the jury is in.




Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:26pm
Panther is a self-confessed racist.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Panther is a self-confessed racist.


I don't see many other reasons to support Trump. Unfortunately for the supporters, all Trump can do is talk hate.

After all, the other thing Trump failed to do is get his Muslim ban up.

The Mexican wall's next. Trump won't be able to make that one happen either, you'll see.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 3:01pm

Big Donger wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Panther, everybody here knows Longy to be a member of the extremist right, or what Longy would call the sensible centre-right.



this is the problem with most of the retards on here. Panther and Misty are extreme examples of it. As soon as someone disagrees with them they convince themselves that it's only because they're a lefty.

Longie has spent years pushing the rights agenda, and making excuses for their failures, and now even he gets called a leftie

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 3:40pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

Big Donger wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Panther, everybody here knows Longy to be a member of the extremist right, or what Longy would call the sensible centre-right.



this is the problem with most of the retards on here. Panther and Misty are extreme examples of it. As soon as someone disagrees with them they convince themselves that it's only because they're a lefty.

Longie has spent years pushing the rights agenda, and making excuses for their failures, and now even he gets called a leftie

;D ;D ;D ;D


Mistie sees the enemy in his mop bucket; the "progressive" leftist lurking in every dirty corner.

They don't call him Morning Mist for nothing.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 3:59pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
So where is the message in calling Obama HNIC?

How can I attack a message which is so absurd as to defy categorisation.


Start by using a spell checker for big words you're not familiar with.....

Sometimes Bojack, maybe for you, discretion is the higher form of valor......

Don't be stupid as stupid does.....don't just chime in & say something stupid because LW58 said something stupid before you. Otherwise you transform from DonkeyBoy AKA Bojack to Einstein, the stuttering Parrot......lacking a mind of your own.

For a while there you showed some reason for hope, you actually showed some occasion for independent thought....then you digressed for some unknown reason, & went back to being a mimic....

Be your own self Bojack, share your own independent thoughts, & get off the parroting of what people, not as smart as you, have to say.    ;)



Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind & free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:32pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D


With all 'due' respect, take yer pinned head out of yer black, bleeding ass, & kindly read what I posted...............

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by John Smith on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:35pm

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind & free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D


With all 'due' respect, take yer pinned head out of yer black, bleeding ass, & kindly read...............



all you had was a lot of blah blah blah designed to disguise your lack of a real answer. With all due respect that sort of stupidity might fool an idiot like trump, but it won't work with most people.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:38pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D


With all 'due' respect, take yer pinned head out of yer black, bleeding ass, & kindly read what I posted..............



all you had was a lot of blah blah blah designed to disguise your lack of a real answer. With all due respect that sort of stupidity might fool an idiot like trump, but it won't work with most people.


So, you really cant comprehend what you read......that answers why you post so many off target answers....

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:42pm

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D


With all 'due' respect, take yer pinned head out of yer black, bleeding ass, & kindly read what I posted..............



all you had was a lot of blah blah blah designed to disguise your lack of a real answer. With all due respect that sort of stupidity might fool an idiot like trump, but it won't work with most people.


So, you really cant comprehend what you read......that answers why you post so many off target answers....



You are just a dim-witted racist and sexists, the kind of boofhead that votes for... the white male because he is... a white and a male.

fool

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Panther on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
so Panther, you couldn't think of a good reply to his question either ... you weren't alone :D


Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


where was the suggestion? :D :D


With all 'due' respect, take yer pinned head out of yer black, bleeding ass, & kindly read what I posted..............



all you had was a lot of blah blah blah designed to disguise your lack of a real answer. With all due respect that sort of stupidity might fool an idiot like trump, but it won't work with most people.


So, you really cant comprehend what you read......that answers why you post so many off target answers....



You are just a dim-witted racist and sexists, the kind of boofhead that votes for... the white male because he is... a white and a male.

Awwwwwww, so cute.....& partly articulate too!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Leftist MSM proven wrong......again
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:11pm

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
Words spewed by the Extremist Left.....like LW58.....don't bother me at all, in fact knowing I accomplished hitting a nerve.....that in the end he wields no power to stop the presentation of facts except, in his mind, calling me...& everyone else he disagrees with....a RACIST....has no power or meaning whatsoever.

Bobby mate, let's be clear, you're being called a racist not as a get out of jail free card being used by someone you disagree with from a position of weakness in the debate, but because of the things you say.  You're putting people down by calling them black and without going through your posts to find examples, which I won't subject myself to that crap, you seem to love using the "HNIC" label which has it's root back in the days of slavery in the US to describe Obama, or at least Ex- now.

You might not find that racist, but it is.  If you don't want to be called a racist, then stop being racist.

The problem, I don't think you care.  Takes a big man to be so racist under the cover on anonymity online doesn't it...  Pity you're not as anonymous as you think Bobby.


Quote:
When people not of his or their ilk hear or see RACIST, they just snicker, roll their eyes, & shrug their shoulders.....the term has been so overused & abused, for every little thing, that it no longer means what it once did....like I said...it has no power anymore.

So you're saying when other racists see someone else being called a racist they snicker and roll their eye?  No surprise there...

And I'm sure you're used to it because you post like a blatant unashamed racist on here and have been called out on it multiple times, but you're saying that makes it overused and it loses all it's power? 

You've got things backwards there champ.


Quote:
That's why I thank him, & any asshole like him, for admitting defeat & using the last thing he can think of to attack the messenger, rather than the message.....a useless word.

Again mate, you've got it backwards.  The fact that you post such racist vitriol only shows the position of weakness you come from.  The one skirting with defeat is you, but it's mainly because what you post, racism aside, doesn't stand up to scrutiny or come close to passing the logic test.

In order not to face that, you're playing the victim card when you're called out for your racism?  Please...


Quote:
The more he uses the RACIST tact, to try & stop the messages he has no valid answers to, the more he proves he has lost the debate.....he cedes the high ground.....he waves his white flag with his self-serving gilded tongue.

This is what the Extreme Left errantly believes in:

Rather than intellectually disputing the facts within the message because they simply can't, they'd prefer to fail miserably in attempting to childishly attack the messenger.... again, & again ad nauseam....

I can't speak for everyone, but there comes a time where showing respect to your opponent by debating their topics becomes too great an ask when they show no such respect in return by attacking the player and not the ball, start using racial slurs or even throw them at those they are debating.

You want to be taken seriously on an intellectual level?  You're going to need to stop with the racist bullshit...

I'm still new around here and perhaps I've just not had my fill yet, but I suspect given how quickly you cowered to those tactics that most other people have had a gut full from you and can't even force some respect for you or your views.

I'll do my best to ignore your anti-intellectual bullshit and take the time to respond properly, but even I have my limits.

But before I do, it's very convenient for you act (if not just show your true colours) racist and then to dismiss any counter-point anyone else would make by claiming to be the victim when called out for it.  It's a strange technique...

At the end of the day however, it's simple, don't want to be called a racist?  Stop being racist.

Easy as 1, 2, 3.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:18pm

Panther wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm:
Unlike you, part of the Nanny tribe that believes in telling someone what to say or do, I prefer to offer him a suggestion, & let him make up his own adult mind, & use his own free will on how to proceed in the future.  ;)


Actually, what you did was again, play the victim and deflect from the issues with the slurs you'd used.

Care to take another crack at it?

Do you think it's appropriate to be using what was quoted, a clearly racist slur born in the height of the days of slavery in the US when referring to Obama?

And the connotation of it being the Head whatever in Charge, but now he isn't in charge, which you so love to point out with the Ex- prefix, you're simply calling him what's left...

I mean seriously, if you cannot see what you're doing go get your head checked.

But again, as happens so often here, the line between true extreme view holder or simple troll in it for the lulz is impossible to see.  I can't tell anymore.

I hope you're just trolling, that's all I can say.  If you are, kudos, it's working, enjoy your lulz.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:21pm
Panther's not a racist, Sad, he's a white supremacist.

At least the racists here have the decency to pretend some of their best friends are dirty Boongs.

It's not a huge difference, true, but what's better? An unashamed and unapologetic Nazi, or a cowering, arse-covering reactionary?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 30th, 2017 at 8:28am

Big Donger wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Panther's not a racist, Sad, he's a white supremacist.


You're right, there is a difference, but I want to give people the benefit of the doubt until all other explanations are exhausted.  Since I'm relatively new here, unlike many of you, that hasn't happened, yet.

It is interesting what you can find out about a person from Facebook though.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on Mar 30th, 2017 at 8:38am

Big Donger wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Panther's not a racist, Sad, he's a white supremacist.

At least the racists here have the decency to pretend some of their best friends are dirty Boongs.

It's not a huge difference, true, but what's better? An unashamed and unapologetic Nazi, or a cowering, arse-covering reactionary?



And you think that a white supremacist and a racist are really different in any meaningful way?

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Karnal on Mar 30th, 2017 at 9:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 8:38am:

Big Donger wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Panther's not a racist, Sad, he's a white supremacist.

At least the racists here have the decency to pretend some of their best friends are dirty Boongs.

It's not a huge difference, true, but what's better? An unashamed and unapologetic Nazi, or a cowering, arse-covering reactionary?



And you think that a white supremacist and a racist are really different in any meaningful way?


Not really. Your white supremacist just admits to being a racist. He doesn't throw a self-righteous tantrum when you call him one.

Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by Honky on May 24th, 2017 at 6:57pm
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Title: Re: Pres. Trump vindicated ... He was spied upon!
Post by longweekend58 on May 25th, 2017 at 10:28am
you couldnt even find something to defend Agent Orange in the WH?

loser

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