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Message started by bogarde73 on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:22am

Title: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:22am
Because Of Course… A Convicted Terrorist Is Leading The Next Women’s March

:The Hill

…but it’s okay because she’s a woman, and a “refugee,” right?

There are things to be outraged about, and this story (and the many levels of fail demonstrated therein) is one of them, so we’ll get straight to the facts.

The next Women’s March, “the Day Without a Woman” is scheduled March 8. The group published a screed in the Guardian on February 6, advocating a “new wave of militant feminist struggle.”  A co-author of that screed, Rasmea Yousef Odeh, is no stranger to militancy. She is a convicted terrorist.


Odeh, a Palestinian, was convicted in Israel in 1970 for her part in two terrorist bombings, one of which killed two students while they were shopping for groceries. She spent 10 years in prison for her crimes. She then managed to become a US citizen in 2004 by lying about her past (great detective work, INS: Next time, use Google) but was subsequently convicted, in 2014, of immigration fraud for the falsehoods. However, she won the right to a new trial (set for this spring) by claiming she had been suffering from PTSD at the time she lied on her application. Oh, and in her time as a citizen, she worked for a while as an ObamaCare navigator.

She. Murdered. Students.

To advance her cause, she thought it was okay to plot and carry out an attack to kill people who didn’t agree with her. This is not speculation, not a rumor that she was convicted. She confessed the day after she was arrested, then after her time in prison lied and said her confession was false and only given after 25 days of torture and sexual assault by Israeli soldiers.

In the United States, she became (what else) a community organizer in Chicago and received the “Outstanding Community Leader Award” from the Chicago Cultural Alliance. After her arrest and conviction for lying on immigration forms, a “Justice for Rasmea” group was formed. The website paints quite a different picture of Odeh:


Rasmea is a community icon who overcame vicious torture by Israeli authorities while imprisoned in Palestine in the 1970s, and an example for the millions of Palestinians who have not given up organizing for their rights of liberation, equality, and return.

She lost her citizenship post-conviction and was ordered to be deported, but that order is on hold. Odeh appealed her conviction, claiming the court improperly denied the admission of expert witness testimony showing that Odeh’s failure to report her conviction and imprisonment was due to PTSD. The appeals court agreed. She was to go to trial January 10, 2017, but was granted a continuance when the US Attorney’s office filed a new indictment alleging other lies (not disclosing her ties to Palestinian terrorist organizations) on her immigration forms in December 2016.

So, back to the Women’s March. We have a convicted terrorist, who murdered students, who lies about being tortured, and who lied to become a US citizen, leading the charge. There is no longer any doubt about the lengths to which these people will go to achieve their goals.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Unforgiven on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:48am
Israel specializes in confession by torture. Such confessions are not recognized.

" ... Rasmea is a community icon who overcame vicious torture by Israeli authorities while imprisoned in Palestine in the 1970s, and an example for the millions of Palestinians who have not given up organizing for their rights of liberation, equality, and return..."

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Marla on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:51am
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Fireball on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:53am
Because they've had a muslim President for the past eight years.......

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/17/goodbye-barack-hussein-obama-americas-first-muslim-president


Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Marla on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:54am
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Fireball on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:59am

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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Marla on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:02am
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:04am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:22am:
... her confession was false and only given after 25 days of torture and sexual assault by Israeli soldiers.


Strange how you didn't highlight that part, Bogie.


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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Fireball on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:14am
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:18am
How good it is that there are helpful people here to make me understand that what The Hill wrote ( a respected Washington source I thought) is in fact all lies.

Marla's contribution was particularly enlightening.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Marla on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:20am
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Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:28am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:18am:
How good it is that there are helpful people here to make me understand that what The Hill wrote ( a respected Washington source I thought) is in fact all lies.


Lol     ;D

What you've posted is an opinion piece from a conservative political blog.

http://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2017/02/26/course...-convicted-terrorist-leading-next-womens-march/

Here's your blogger: https://twitter.com/jenvanlaar?lang=en

;D

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Honky on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:37am
Why?  Because nothing is being discussed, progressives have no interest in discussion, only in your oppression and submission.


Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:43am

... wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:37am:
Why?  Because nothing is being discussed, progressives have no interest in discussion, only in your oppression and submission.


You mean like Trump treats... everybody?

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:44am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 11:18am:
How good it is that there are helpful people here to make me understand that what The Hill wrote ( a respected Washington source I thought) is in fact all lies.


It's a blog, from a hockey Mum    ;D

http://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2017/02/26/course...-convicted-terrorist-leading-next-womens-march/

https://www.facebook.com/jenvanlaar/

https://twitter.com/jenvanlaar?lang=en

;D

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:00pm
No Greg, what I posted came from The Hill, which mostly comments on news from congress & the WH.
No doubt other sources carried the story.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:13pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
No Greg, what I posted came from The Hill, which mostly comments on news from congress & the WH.
No doubt other sources carried the story.


What you posted is a blog, from an ultra conservative hockey mom   ;D

See for yourself:

http://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2017/02/26/course...-convicted-terrorist-leading-next-womens-march/

"Posted at 3:00 pm on February 26, 2017 by Jennifer Van Laar"

Busted!

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Unforgiven on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:29pm
Bogarde73 is a bought and sold Hasbara troll.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Karnal on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:46pm

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Bogarde73 is a bought and sold Hasbara troll.


No wonder he doesn't reveal his sources.

Israeli torture? No worries. Mr Trump wants to bring back torture too.

I'm sure this has Bogie's unequivocal support.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:51pm

Big Donger wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Bogarde73 is a bought and sold Hasbara troll.


No wonder he doesn't reveal his sources.

Israeli torture? No worries. Mr Trump wants to bring back torture too.

I'm sure this has Bogie's unequivocal support.


He tried to pass off his source as The Hill.

However, the opinion piece he quotes in the OP doesn't appear on their website.

And, even if it did, the original quite clearly comes from this conservative blog site.

Moreover, the blogger is an ultra conservative hockey mom who seems to fancy herself as a bit of a Sarah Palin.

Why did Bogie lie to us?


Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Karnal on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Bogarde73 is a bought and sold Hasbara troll.


No wonder he doesn't reveal his sources.

Israeli torture? No worries. Mr Trump wants to bring back torture too.

I'm sure this has Bogie's unequivocal support.


He tried to pass off his source as The Hill.

However, the opinion piece he quotes in the OP doesn't appear on their website.

And, even if it did, the original quite clearly comes from this conservative blog site.

Moreover, the blogger is an ultra conservative hockey mom who seems to fancy herself as a bit of a Sarah Palin.

Why did Bogie lie to us?


No doubt he was trying to conceal his source's identity.

Loose lips sink ships, you know.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by Honky on Feb 28th, 2017 at 1:06pm
Told ya.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by bogarde73 on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:36am
So here's another source:

FrontPageMag:

The call from the Left is to “resist” a “Fascist America,” which is supposedly the direction the United States is taking under President Trump. Among other things, leftists regularly accuse President Trump and members of his administration of anti-Semitism. Yet one of the leaders of the “resistance” movement, and a co-organizer of the next women’s protest on March 8th is Rasmea Yousef Odeh, a convicted Palestinian terrorist. Odeh had participated in bombings in Israel nearly 50 years ago, one of which resulted in the killing of two Israeli students. Now she is advocating militant resistance in the streets of the United States. For Palestinians, “resistance” is often used as a rationalization for acts of terrorism. Odeh has not explicitly advocated the use of violence - at least not yet. However, Odeh and her co-organizers have called for the March 8th protest to include blocking roads, bridges, and squares. We have seen such uncivil acts of disobedience lead to violence in the past.

Odeh has joined with several other militants as co-authors of a manifesto for a new, more radical form of feminism. Odeh’s co-authors include Angela Davis, who supported the Black Panthers and was a former leader of the Communist Party USA, and Tithi Bhattacharya, a Maoist supporter. The manifesto heralded what its authors called an international “anti-capitalist” feminist movement that is “at once anti-racist, anti-imperialist, anti-heterosexist and anti-neoliberal.”  So-called “lean-in” or “other variants of corporate feminism” are not “feminism for the 99%,” according to the manifesto’s co-authors.

Move over, Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. Leftists have found new radical feminist heroines to embrace. According to Workers’ World, “Progressive women in the U.S. eagerly responded to the call. Posted on womenstrikeus.org is the strike platform: ‘In a spirit of solidarity and internationalism, in the United States, March 8 will be a day of action organized by and for women who have been marginalized and silenced by decades of neoliberalism directed toward working women, women of color, Native women, disabled women, immigrant women, Muslim women, lesbian, queer and trans women. … [We are organizing] resistance not just against Trump and his misogynist policies, but also against the conditions that produced Trump, namely the decades-long economic inequality, racial and sexual violence, and imperial wars abroad.’"  In other words, a whole potpourri of favorite leftwing causes. 

Rasmea Yousef Odeh is particularly beloved in Muslim and leftwing circles. “She's an icon, actually, across the country amongst Arab and Muslim organizations, around civil liberties organizations, among women's empowerment organizations,” said Hatem Abudayyeh, a member of Chicago's Arab-American community where Odeh was active as an organizer.

Angela Davis participated in an event in 2015 with Odeh, co-organized by the Chicago chapter of Black Lives Matter, entitled "Freedom Beyond Occupation & Incarceration – An Afternoon with Angela Davis and Rasmea Odeh."  According to a report in Ebony, “Davis and Odeh discussed the importance of Black-Palestinian solidarity, political imprisonment in the US and Israel, as well as the need for the abolition of prisons and ending the Israeli occupation of Palestine.”

Odeh praised the Black liberation movement. “I now more fully understand the prison-industrial-complex that sister Angela Davis so eloquently talks and writes about,” Odeh remarked, “and the reason that she discusses the need for the abolition of prisons and not simply reform.” Angela Davis returned the praise, and said that the federal government was targeting Odeh as “part of the broader struggle against political imprisonment in the US.”

Actually, the federal government targeted Odeh because she was a convicted terrorist whom should not have even been in the United States in the first place. Years after her release from Israeli prison, she came to the United States in 1995. In 2004, she became a U.S. citizen after concealing her terrorist background. Odeh answered “No” to questions in the naturalization questionnaire regarding whether she had “EVER” been arrested, charged, convicted or imprisoned. In 2014, ten years after becoming a U.S. citizen based on false pretenses, Odeh was convicted for unlawful procurement of naturalization. But Odeh, with a variety of leftwing and Islamist advocates rallying to her side, managed to avoid serving a prison sentence and eventual deportation, at least for the time being. An appeals court granted her the right to a new trial so that she could present evidence of her supposed post-traumatic stress disorder allegedly suffered while in Israeli captivity. It seems that this “disorder,” which she claimed was brought about by acts of rape and torture committed by her Israeli interrogators, confused Odeh when she was filling out the naturalization questionnaire. She interpreted the word "EVER," which was capitalized on the original questionnaire, to mean only the time she resided in the United States.
Odeh continues to play the part of a Palestinian victim of Israeli “oppression” and “political imprisonment,” when it was she who was responsible for the deaths of two innocent Israeli students. She then conveniently forgot all about her terrorist background in order to slip through naturalization screening.

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by bogarde73 on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:36am
Members of the “fake news” mainstream media seem to have forgotten as well. For example, in an article appearing on New York Times.com, writers from Women in the World identified Yousef Odeh simply as an associate director of the Arab American Action Network.
The Huffington Post published an article by Black activist Marc Lamont Hill, who uncritically accepted Odeh’s narrative of being unfairly convicted by an Israeli military court on the basis of a coerced confession. He ignored the fact that there was corroborating evidence of her complicity in the terrorist acts, independent of her confession. Moreover, Odeh’s trial was witnessed by an observer from the International Red Cross, who determined it was fair. However, facts mean little as far as radical ideologues are concerned. They resist the truth, and are provided a platform in the mainstream media to promote their false narratives.
“Like many Palestinian freedom fighters,” Marc Lamont Hill wrote, “Odeh’s story should resonate with Blacks here in the United States. She is the victim of a criminal military court system in Israel, much like many Black people are victims of a criminal racist justice system in the U.S. Odeh’s is an important story. A story of Palestine. A story of refugees, of military occupation and torture, of political imprisonment, of women’s rights organizing, of freedom. But Odeh’s must also be understood as a Black story. A story of global resistance to colonial power. A story of challenging unjust government action. A story of solidarity.”
Rasmea Yousef Odeh does indeed have a story. But it is not the story that Odeh and her supporters would want us to believe. To the contrary, it is a story of a convicted terrorist who lied her way into the United States and now seeks to radicalize it with her leftwing allies through acts of “resistance.” We can only hope that Odeh’s story will end with her new trial scheduled to begin on May 16, 2017 and a verdict of guilty that will ultimately lead to her deportation.


Joseph Klein is a Harvard-trained lawyer and the author of Global Deception: The UN’s Stealth Assault on America’s Freedom and Lethal Engagement: Barack Hussein Obama, the United Nations & Radical Islam

Title: Re: Why is this not being discussed???
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 1st, 2017 at 8:31am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:00pm:
No Greg, what I posted came from The Hill, ...


Don't tell fibs.

It's a hockey mom's blog, from a conservative blog site - Red State.




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