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Message started by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 6:49am

Title: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 6:49am
Tone knows how to win but will Mal listen ?

Maybe BOTH parties will simultaneously change leaders ?

Will it be Tone versus Albo Sneezy ? Where will Pauline be ?





Tony Abbott takes aim at Turnbull and lays out conservative manifesto
Katharine Murphy Political editor Thursday 23 February 2017 20.00 AEDT Last modified on Thursday 23 February 2017 20.01 AEDT

Former prime minister delivers provocative speech that takes pot shots at Malcolm Turnbull and unveils a sweeping election battle plan.

Tony Abbott is calling for the Coalition to cut immigration, slash the renewable energy target, and abolish the Human Rights Commission.

Tony Abbott has used a book launch to unveil a sweeping conservative manifesto for the next federal election, declaring the Coalition needs to cut immigration, slash the renewable energy target, abolish the Human Rights Commission, and gut the capacity of the Senate to be a roadblock to the government’s agenda.

In a provocative speech that contains several pot shots at his successor, Malcolm Turnbull, Abbott warns the government won’t win the next election unless it wins back the conservative base, and he declares “politics can’t be just a contest of toxic egos or someone’s vanity project.”

“Our challenge is to be worth voting for,” Abbott said in Sydney on Thursday evening at the launch of the book, Making Australia Right.

Distilling his pitch to voters, Abbott says: “In short, why not say to the people of Australia: we’ll cut the RET, to help with your power bills; we’ll cut immigration to make housing more affordable; we’ll scrap the Human Rights Commission to stop official bullying; we’ll stop all new spending to end ripping off our grandkids; and we’ll reform the Senate to have government, not gridlock.”

During a separate appearance on Thursday night on Andrew Bolt’s program on Sky News, Abbott doubled down on his argument that the Coalition was at risk of losing the next election because of the fracturing of rightwing politics, and the allure of “grievance” parties like One Nation.

Abbott said if voters wanted good government, they had to continue to back the Coalition “but plainly there are lots of people who are concerned about our our direction.”

He said there was a risk the government would “drift to defeat”.

In his speech at the book launch in Sydney, Abbott also delivered a caustic takedown of the government’s recent pivot to coal-fired power, which is a core component of its political strategy on energy prices and energy security for the new year.

Read rest here

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/23/tony-abbott-takes-aim-at-turnbull-and-lays-out-conservative-manifesto

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 24th, 2017 at 6:53am
Good government starts ....... pretty soon

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:10am
LW reaching for the stars.

Tone is the brains behind the Libs and he hasn't lost his touch.

With Tone up front Question Time would become a slaughter house for the Greenies and their union controlled Labor puppet.

Recall how Tone wiped the floor repeatedly with the hopeless Krudd and Gillard.

Will it end up being Tone versus Albo Sneezy ?




Turnbull should listen to Abbott about One Nation—soon!
AMM  24/02/2017



Is it too late for Turnbull to regain the lost faithful?

Old tin-ear Turnbull shouls heed Abbott’s warning. In trying to be his own man by following his own path, a path that has led to one stuff-up after another, Malcolm Turnbull is on course for political oblivion—only he refuses to see that. This is why conservatives abandoned his path according to Mr Abbott.

“Why not say to the people of Australia: we’ll cut the [Renewable Energy Target], to help with your power bills; we’ll cut immigration, to make housing more affordable; we’ll scrap the Human Rights Commission, to stop official bullying; we’ll stop all new spending, to end ripping off our grandkids; and we’ll reform the Senate to have government, not gridlock,” he said.

Tony Abbott warns Coalition at risk of losing base to One Nation if it doesn’t change tack
Source: ABC

Tony Abbott has lashed out at the Turnbull Government, saying conservatives see it as “Labor lite” and its base will desert it for One Nation unless it shunts to the right.

The policy remedy the former prime minister prescribed, included a halt to all new spending, cutting immigration, ending renewable energy subsidies, scrapping the Human Rights Commission and reforming the Senate.

His intervention is yet another shot at Malcolm Turnbull and it will be seen by him and many in Cabinet as the latest move in a deliberate campaign of destabilisation.

Launching the book Making Australia Right, penned by a group of prominent conservatives, Mr Abbott said a sense of disappointment and disillusionment pervaded the essays.

“Many of the people who normally support Coalition governments aren’t happy,” he said.

“They are publishing their own ways to ‘make Australia right’ because, they think, the Government is not up to it.

“It’s a cri de coeur from people who think that Labor is moving to the green left and that the Coalition has become Labor lite.”

Mr Abbott said the next election was winnable, but only if the Government changed tack.

He said it needed to find policy that was “philosophically acceptable, economically responsible and politically saleable”.

“Why not say to the people of Australia: we’ll cut the [Renewable Energy Target], to help with your power bills; we’ll cut immigration, to make housing more affordable; we’ll scrap the Human Rights Commission, to stop official bullying; we’ll stop all new spending, to end ripping off our grandkids; and we’ll reform the Senate to have government, not gridlock,” he said.

Abbott says Government has to overcome challenges
Mr Abbott pointed to the drift away from the major parties as a sign of a loss of faith in politics.

Nearly 40 per cent of the electorate now “couldn’t bring themselves to vote for either of the two parties that have governed us for 100 years”.

“And it’s worse now,” he said.

“In Queensland, polls have the Coalition vote 8 percentage points down since the election and One Nation 12 percentage points up.”
The reasons were obvious: abundant land and unaffordable housing, high labour costs and regulatory burdens and falling standards in education.

“It’s true that to be an Australian — almost any Australian — is to have won the lottery of life, but it won’t stay that way unless we lift our game,” Mr Abbott said.

“And yes, there’s an Opposition in denial about the problems it created when in office; there’s a populist Senate; there’s a media that often mistakes insider gossip for serious journalism; and there’s a public that demands to enjoy things today but to put off paying for them.

“Still, the Government’s job is to face up to these challenges and to overcome them. It’s harder than ever, but it still has to be done.

“In the long run, we do indeed need a conservative version of the left’s ‘long march through the institutions’.

“We do need to make it respectable again to be liberal on economic questions and conservative on social ones.”

Abbott says he has duty to ensure party ‘stays on the right track’
Speaking about the book launch on Sky News, Mr Abbott said he felt as a former party leader he had a duty to ensure the Liberal Party stayed “on the right track”.

He also criticised Mr Turnbull for choosing to live in his waterfront mansion rather than the official prime ministerial residence, suggesting he was being a “burden on the taxpayer” by not downsizing to Kirribilli House.

“The advice I got back in early 2014 was that if I stayed at Forrestville it would cost an extra million a year in security,” he said.
“I thought then I was really obliged to live in the house that the taxpayer provides for the Prime Minister.”

Mr Abbott said it would be a “better look” for both the Prime Minister and the Government if Mr Turnbull moved to Kirribilli House.

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Bit more overleaf

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:10am
Tone versus ? continues...

And a coupla COMMENTS

Honeybadger 24/02/2017, 7:08 am
Yes. Tony Abbott identifies just some of the issues that desperately need to be addressed by the Liberals but won’t be, under the Captain of the Titanic, Turnbull.

Mind you Tony had the opportunity to start the ball rolling and didn’t. Eg. 18C.

Typical of Turnbull to waste OPM by not living in Kirribilli and that’s the sort of thing that really gets up people’s noses.



Spinbuster 24/02/2017, 7:34 am
………Turnbull should listen to Abbott about One Nation—soon! ………..

I would imagine that the most obvious thought is, why vote for 2nd best when you can have the real thing?

I can’t imagine much discussion on immigration policy and 18c repealing in a PHON cabinet.

There may be some heated discussion if someone says it should take more than 24 hours to get the ball rolling!!


http://morningmail.org/turnbull-listen-abbott-soon/#more-56758

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by The Grappler on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:21am
Well - he's pretty cut over losing the top spot in the corporation, with all of his solid policy ideas and his positive and streamlined public utterances in support of them.......

Now that one of his and Joey Huckster's flagships, the HMAS Medicare Freeze, has foundered, maybe he feels he needs to take back the reins and bring some sense back into this government before it fails in its aim of robbing the people totally blind............

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:34am
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



seeya libturds

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:36am
Yes Tones is letting them know he is still around!

Most are pussy footing about him saying its OK for him to speak his mind apart from Prissy Pyne who gave him a big serve


Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:40am

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:36am:
Yes Tones is letting them know he is still around!

Most are pussy footing about him saying its OK for him to speak his mind apart from Prissy Pyne who gave him a big serve



tony wants the top job back and he's letting his colleagues know it. The closer to an election we get, the more the lib MP's will start to worry about their own jobs, and the better chance tony has of getting them to put him back in top job.

It's 'Rudd MkII' ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Vic on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:44am
Even your good self Jules must now be honest and admit the Abbott is a liability to the whole Coalition.    This needs to be bought to a head and addressed immediately.   Sending out the mincing poodle to rebut Abbott is akin to admitting Abbott is correct.

Turnbull needs to call a leadership ballot and take the consequences.  He will be re-elected as there is no one else.  Take the opportunity to get rid of the deadwood on the front bench and reinvigorate the party. 

Now for Abbott.   Offer him a plum 3 year posting OS if he leaves the party, or immediately remove his endorsement as a member of the Liberal Party if he doesn't.  It worked with that failure Hockey so it will work with Abbott.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:59am
A lot will depend on whether the unions decide they have had enough of hopeless Shorty and replace him with Albo Sneezy.

This would be a major shock for Malcolm who is sitting pretty while ever bumbling stumbling blunderbus Shorty is there.

This would be the time for Tone to strike. The Libs need an attack dog to rip very vulnerable Labor to bits.

But the real impediment to progress are the independent Senators all pulling in different directions and all pushing their own irrelevant wheelbarrows and all trying to be seen to be "important" by blocking lego.

Will the abominable shock of the specter of Shorty as "PM" be enough to frighten them out of their cocoons ?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by philperth2010 on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:01am

juliar wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:59am:
A lot will depend on whether the unions decide they have had enough of hopeless Shorty and replace him with Albo Sneezy.

This would be a major shock for Malcolm who is sitting pretty while ever bumbling stumbling blunderbus Shorty is there.

This would be the time for Tone to strike. The Libs need an attack dog to rip very vulnerable Labor to bits.

But the real impediment to progress are the independent Senators all pulling in different directions and all pushing their own irrelevant wheelbarrows and all trying to be seen to be "important" by blocking lego.

Will the abominable shock of the specter of Shorty as "PM" be enough to frighten them out of their cocoons ?


The ALP would relish the return of the mad monk....Bring him on!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:05am
Interesting.  I still think he should just retire.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by juliar on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:19am
Philly,

Their joy would be short lived once attack dog Tone started ripping them to shreds in Question Time.

Labor and Shorty are VERY vulnerable to attack and Tone knows all their weak points.

Wonder if he would get Peta Credlin back ?

Will this be a wake up call to Malcolm who can deliver when required as still licking his wounds Shorty can attest ?

Is Mal just keeping his powder dry ready for the final assault ?

As a lawyer Mal was very good and he could effortlessly crush the best in the courtroom.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:23am

juliar wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:59am:
This would be the time for Tone to strike. The Libs need an attack dog to rip very vulnerable Labor to bits.



rubbish .... the voters were stupid enough to believe tonys bullsh1t before, they won't fall for it again. Abbotts finished, everyone knows it except him and you.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:31am
And Credlin....  good grief ::)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by The Grappler on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:49am

Grendel wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:31am:
And Credlin....  good grief ::)



I'm incredlinulous at the thought...

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by The Grappler on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:56am

Vic wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:44am:
Even your good self Jules must now be honest and admit the Abbott is a liability to the whole Coalition.    This needs to be bought to a head and addressed immediately.   Sending out the mincing poodle to rebut Abbott is akin to admitting Abbott is correct.

Turnbull needs to call a leadership ballot and take the consequences.  He will be re-elected as there is no one else.  Take the opportunity to get rid of the deadwood on the front bench and reinvigorate the party. 

Now for Abbott.   Offer him a plum 3 year posting OS if he leaves the party, or immediately remove his endorsement as a member of the Liberal Party if he doesn't.  It worked with that failure Hockey so it will work with Abbott.


1.  Oh, you big poo, you.....

2.  Devil's Island?  No political hack should ever be placed in a position of government service after they leave.  Look at Fat Joe and his shirt-fronting The Trumpet, saying that not adhering to some half-baked immigrant exchange scheme might threaten relationships..  ROFL.....


The Imperial Maitre d' strides majestically to the centre of the floor, strikes his rod of office three times on the floor, and speaks loudly so the audience might wake up..... one or two dozing senators oblige....

"announcing the Ambassador for Austria, Mr Jozef Honkie...... wait a minute.... (turns to an aide) .. isn't that Joe Huckster or Hokey or something?  And it wasn't Austria, was it?  More like Austropithecus or something?"


Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Merlin on Feb 24th, 2017 at 10:38am

Its time wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 6:53am:
Good government starts ....... pretty soon


Yes hopefully Abbott/democracy is restored soon and the weird F**k that is currently infesting the lodge is kicked out on his a**.

Cant come soon enough, get rid of this  weird freak leftist labor pm out of the lodge NOW!!!!!

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:58am
im not sure what all the fuss is about ...

he talked about what "WE" and other Media outlets have been talking about for months.. '

so what??

and he was 100% right..

they are losing votes to One Nation (so are Labor)

housing is becoming unaffordable due to the hundreds of thousands of immigrants coming in..

Dick Smith has already brought this up some time ago..

etc etc...

you can keep burying your head in the sand or you can be a man and talk about it openly...

this is how trump won the US election..

he looked at all of the troubles throughout the US and made an election campaign out of it...

here in australia... we just pander to minority groups and play the identity political game too scared to come out like a man and lay it on the table..

straight up..

"awww.. we might offend someone  :("

pfft.. bunch of handbagging pussies..  ::)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Vic on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:09pm

juliar wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:19am:
Philly,

Their joy would be short lived once attack dog Tone started ripping them to shreds in Question Time.

Labor and Shorty are VERY vulnerable to attack and Tone knows all their weak points.

Wonder if he would get Peta Credlin back ?

Will this be a wake up call to Malcolm who can deliver when required as still licking his wounds Shorty can attest ?

Is Mal just keeping his powder dry ready for the final assault ?

As a lawyer Mal was very good and he could effortlessly crush the best in the courtroom.



jules, Jules, Jules - Yes Abbott was good as an Opposition Leader attack dog but alas, alak, those days are long gone.  Tony will probably never grace the carpet at the front of the ministers that count because his job now is sitting rrrriiiigggghhhttt up the back of the chamber and feeding "dorothy dixers' to junior ministers who have jumped him in status and responsibility.

We are left with people of note like Pyne to push the Government and attack the Opposition.  He is just so good at it as well...

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Leftwinger on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:58am:
im not sure what all the fuss is about ...

he talked about what "WE" and other Media outlets have been talking about for months.. '

so what??

and he was 100% right..

they are losing votes to One Nation (so are Labor)

housing is becoming unaffordable due to the hundreds of thousands of immigrants coming in..

Dick Smith has already brought this up some time ago..

etc etc...

you can keep burying your head in the sand or you can be a man and talk about it openly...

this is how trump won the US election..

he looked at all of the troubles throughout the US and made an election campaign out of it...

here in australia... we just pander to minority groups and play the identity political game too scared to come out like a man and lay it on the table..

straight up..

"awww.. we might offend someone  :("

pfft.. bunch of handbagging pussies..  ::)


Any Labor voter that couldn't see dumb nation are just a poor mans liberal party should be well and truly awake now after dumb nation have supported Libtards over 85% of the time , and of course the alliance for up and coming WA state election , it's the Libtards who will be bleeding votes  :)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by davo on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm
Abbott is free to speak his mind however he should have the decency to piss off and start his own party.

Openly undermining Turnbull is poor form.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:15pm

oh dear wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Abbott is free to speak his mind however he should have the decency to piss off and start his own party.

Openly undermining Turnbull is poor form.


oh gee..

that nearly brought a tear to my eyes..  :'(

someone had to have the balls to stand up and speak openly and in plain terms..

does anyone here think that the Liberal Party is not in danger of falling apart??

does anyone think that its ok for more Liberal MPs to walk out the door?

I think they have a Majority of 1 seat..

so yeah...

something has to change and change fast or they are ******

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:58pm

oh dear wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Abbott is free to speak his mind however he should have the decency to piss off and start his own party.


Basher's Battlers Party      :-/

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by macman on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm
Tones Tories?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:03pm

macman wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm:
Tones Tories?


Abbott's Arseholes  ?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by kemal on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

macman wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm:
Tones Tories?


Abbott's Arseholes  ?


Peccas Perversions?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:10pm

kemal wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

macman wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm:
Tones Tories?


Abbott's Arseholes  ?


Peccas Perversions?


Why would the woman-basher use a name like that for his party?

That makes no sense at all.


Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by kemal on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

macman wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm:
Tones Tories?


Abbott's Arseholes  ?


Peccas Perversions?


Why would the woman-basher use a name like that for his party?

That makes no sense at all.


Keysar Trad?

Or an offsider in WA, perhaps?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:39pm


Recall how Tone wiped the floor repeatedly with the hopeless Krudd and Gillard.

<<

What a bugger*'n joke  ;D

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:45pm

juliar wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:59am:
A lot will depend on whether the unions decide they have had enough of hopeless Shorty and replace him with Albo Sneezy.

This would be a major shock for Malcolm who is sitting pretty while ever bumbling stumbling blunderbus Shorty is there.

This would be the time for Tone to strike. The Libs need an attack dog to rip very vulnerable Labor to bits.

But the real impediment to progress are the independent Senators all pulling in different directions and all pushing their own irrelevant wheelbarrows and all trying to be seen to be "important" by blocking lego.

Will the abominable shock of the specter of Shorty as "PM" be enough to frighten them out of their cocoons ?

Hey,... Hey,... wait for it............ w a i t       f             o                      r    it:


GO COPPER INTERNET LEGACY FOR THE NASTY BLUE BLOOD BRIGADE FOREVER!

OH- GOOD LUCK TO BARNETT AT THE BASEBALL BAT PARTY- I WONDER HOW MANY OF US HAVE VOTES ALREADY  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


;D

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:46pm
Turdfull is successfully scoffing this off, and is being supported in the Party even by that Belgium Abbott supporter.  Tony is Yesterday's Hero,

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:49pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Turdfull is successfully scoffing this off, and is being supported in the Party even by that Belgium Abbott supporter.  Tony is Yesterday's Hero,

go copper internet i say  ;D

oh, and barnett  8-)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Bam on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:13pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:05am:
Interesting.  I still think he should just retire.

Agreed ... he's yesterday's man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVSEiveFY7g

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Merlin on Feb 25th, 2017 at 6:14pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:58am:
im not sure what all the fuss is about ...

he talked about what "WE" and other Media outlets have been talking about for months.. '

so what??

and he was 100% right..

they are losing votes to One Nation (so are Labor)

housing is becoming unaffordable due to the hundreds of thousands of immigrants coming in..

Dick Smith has already brought this up some time ago..

etc etc...

you can keep burying your head in the sand or you can be a man and talk about it openly...

this is how trump won the US election..

he looked at all of the troubles throughout the US and made an election campaign out of it...

here in australia... we just pander to minority groups and play the identity political game too scared to come out like a man and lay it on the table..

straight up..

"awww.. we might offend someone  :("

pfft.. bunch of handbagging pussies..  ::)


Totally agree!!

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Merlin on Feb 25th, 2017 at 6:16pm

oh dear wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Abbott is free to speak his mind however he should have the decency to piss off and start his own party.

Openly undermining Turnbull is poor form.


But what the weirdo freak turnbull did to Abbott was ok ?

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Culture Warrior on Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:36pm
abbott's has poor public speaking skills. he'll should never lead the party again. 

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by stunspore on Feb 26th, 2017 at 7:17am
Then came the "fixer". Christopher Pyne set up each Abbott proposition and then smacked it out of the park.

"He said that we should freeze immigration yet when he was the PM, he had record levels of immigration; He said we should abolish the Human Rights Commission and yet when he was the PM, he shut down the debate on whether we should reform section 18C; He says we should cut taxes, and yet when he was the PM he increased taxes, whether it was the deficit levy on high-income earners or whether it was the fuel tax; He says we should slash spending and yet when he was the PM in 2014 he attempted to slash spending and all he did was create zombie bills that couldn't pass through the Senate; and the fifth subject, of course, was the renewable energy target and the truth is of course he set the RET at 23.5 per cent and described it at the time as one of the achievements of his government."


Looks like Abbott is a fail, according to Pyne... Poor Juliar.  This week (to be honest most of the time), constant coalition fail.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:40am

Grendel wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:05am:
Interesting.  I still think he should just retire.


Another thing he has in common with Pauline is that in his case he needs another 4 days or so in the big chair to get his PM's perks.

He is going nowhere till he guarantees his own personal trough is going to be supplies. Pauline needed another term and has worked for 20 years to get it and set herself up for life.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:41am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
abbott's has poor public speaking skills. he'll should never lead the party again. 


Probably the least of his problems.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:45am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:58am:
im not sure what all the fuss is about ...

this is how trump won the US election..


I love this one, because the USA have a Mad Nutter President we need a Mad Nutter PM ?

Makes perfect sense to me.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:52am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
abbott's has poor public speaking skills. he'll should never lead the party again. 

I don't think its his speaking skills that should rule him out... he speaks much better than Hanson.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:56am

stunspore wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 7:17am:
Then came the "fixer". Christopher Pyne set up each Abbott proposition and then smacked it out of the park.

"He said that we should freeze immigration yet when he was the PM, he had record levels of immigration; He said we should abolish the Human Rights Commission and yet when he was the PM, he shut down the debate on whether we should reform section 18C; He says we should cut taxes, and yet when he was the PM he increased taxes, whether it was the deficit levy on high-income earners or whether it was the fuel tax; He says we should slash spending and yet when he was the PM in 2014 he attempted to slash spending and all he did was create zombie bills that couldn't pass through the Senate; and the fifth subject, of course, was the renewable energy target and the truth is of course he set the RET at 23.5 per cent and described it at the time as one of the achievements of his government."


Looks like Abbott is a fail, according to Pyne... Poor Juliar.  This week (to be honest most of the time), constant coalition fail.

I don't think one should dismiss Abbott's current policy suggestions based on his past as PM.  I think he has tapped into a few good ideas, pity as PM he didn't have them then.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 26th, 2017 at 9:57am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 8:41am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
abbott's has poor public speaking skills. he'll should never lead the party again. 


Probably the least of his problems.

OMG we agree... ;)

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Jovial Monk on Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:14am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
abbott's has poor public speaking skills. he'll should never lead the party again. 


So illiterate, so not worth listening to the author.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Grendel on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:09pm
Woof woof!!!
Sit Ubu... sit.

Title: Re: Is Tone having a go at the big one ?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2017 at 6:36pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Turdfull is successfully scoffing this off, and is being supported in the Party even by that Belgium Abbott supporter.  Tony is Yesterday's Hero,


Yes I heard him on the radio - he used all seven of the English words that he has partial control over.

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