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Message started by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:37am

Title: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:37am
Inevitably however, in the world of science at least, those who seek to employ misdirection and disinformation as a means to further their own ideological ends are doomed to eventual failure. In the closing paragraph to his “Personal
observations on the reliability of the Shuttle”, the late, great Richard Feynman used a phrase that should be seared into the consciousness of anyone writing about climate science, especially those who are economical with the truth…

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

Remember that final phrase – “nature cannot be fooled”, even if vast numbers of voters can be!

source: http://greatwhitecon.info/2016/03/how-to-make-a-complete-rss-of-yourself/

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by lee on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 4:13pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:37am:
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.



Yep. But humans can infer all kinds of thing from models and statistics. ;)

Not necessarily factual.

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by Ajax on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:52pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:37am:
Inevitably however, in the world of science at least, those who seek to employ misdirection and disinformation as a means to further their own ideological ends are doomed to eventual failure. In the closing paragraph to his “Personal
observations on the reliability of the Shuttle”, the late, great Richard Feynman used a phrase that should be seared into the consciousness of anyone writing about climate science, especially those who are economical with the truth…

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

Remember that final phrase – “nature cannot be fooled”, even if vast numbers of voters can be!

source: http://greatwhitecon.info/2016/03/how-to-make-a-complete-rss-of-yourself/


Richard Feynman a great physicist and teacher.

Since you like him DRAH, listen to the video below, its only 60 seconds I'm sure your attention span will just be able to handle it.

NOW listen GOOD.................!!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIxvQMhttq4

Warming by the end of this century

IPCC computer models  projected warming……… +2.78° C / Century

Observations the last 25 years………………………….. +1.01° C / Century







Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 4:13pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 11:37am:
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.



Yep. But humans can infer all kinds of thing from models and statistics. ;)

Not necessarily factual.

Lol, that's a statement that will never go away  ::)

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by lee on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:06pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:55pm:
Lol, that's a statement that will never go away



A variation on a theme.


Quote:
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

Bertrand Russell

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by lee on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:09pm
Or

"Statistics are supposed to make something easier to understand but when used in a misleading fashion can trick the casual observer into believing something other than what the data shows. That is, a misuse of statistics occurs when a statistical argument asserts a falsehood. In some cases, the misuse may be accidental. In others, it is purposeful and for the gain of the perpetrator. When the statistical reason involved is false or misapplied, this constitutes a statistical fallacy.

The false statistics trap can be quite damaging to the quest for knowledge. For example, in medical science, correcting a falsehood may take decades and cost lives.

Misuses can be easy to fall into. Professional scientists, even mathematicians and professional statisticians, can be fooled by even some simple methods, even if they are careful to check everything. Scientists have been known to fool themselves with statistics due to lack of knowledge of probability theory and lack of standardization of their tests."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics

;)

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:14pm
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Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by lee on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:21pm
Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth.

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:27pm

lee wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:
Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth.

What, because you said something about lies, damned lies and statistics? Wow- you must be on mega bucks bra  ;D

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by lee on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:00pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:27pm:

lee wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:
Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth.

What, because you said something about lies, damned lies and statistics? Wow- you must be on mega bucks bra  ;D


Nope. When your reply was -


TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:
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plus repeats.

Title: Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:02pm
only lee  ::)

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