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Message started by Raven on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm

Title: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Raven on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm
Michael Flynn reportedly misled the vice president about conversations with Russia. Sean Spicer has never found his stride. Kellyanne Conway is in Congress’s sights. Welcome to Survivor: West Wing.

It is a truth universally peddled by wisemen and women in Washington, though not necessarily obeyed by presidents, that when the White House is in trouble, the best cure is to hoist the head of an adviser on a spike of the fence encircling the executive mansion.

Firing—sorry, accepting the resignation of—an adviser makes for an easy way to demonstrate that the administration understands it has a problem and is working to fix it. That person doesn’t necessarily need to be the root of the problem, though it’s helpful if they’re at least somewhat involved. Other times, some bad press offers a useful pretext for pushing out someone who was already on thin ice.

If President Trump wants to find a sacrificial lamb, he’s got options. There’s Sean Spicer, whose bumbling performances as press secretary have earned him a brutal mockery on Saturday Night Live and, reportedly, the dissatisfaction of the president. There’s Kellyanne Conway, who has proven a more effective spokesperson for the Oval Office but is also more prone to major blunders, and who finds herself in the crosshairs of congressional overseers after exhorting people to buy Ivanka Trump’s line of clothing.

But as of Thursday evening, the betting pool for who gets voted off the island first has a new favorite: National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. It had long been known that Flynn had spoken with Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak prior to Trump’s inauguration. That raised eyebrows, given Trump’s positive comment about Vladimir Putin’s regime, Putin’s more or less open cheerleading for Trump, and what the U.S. intelligence community says was Russian hacking intended to help Trump during the campaign. Flynn confirmed the conversations, but insisted he had not discussed sanctions that the Obama administration levied on Russia in retaliation for that hacking. Such a conversation would risk violating the Logan Act, which bars citizens from negotiating with foreign governments without authorization.

Michael Flynn's disaster

This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory. They didn't even know how to turn on lights in the building.

It is going to be a wild 4 years

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?


Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?


Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.



Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?


The question was rhetorical, Mr Hammer, to make a point.  That being, why did you ask Mr Peccary such a dumb question when he has made his opinion about Trump loud and clear many times.  Central to his concerns are those allegations of child rape, and sexual assault of women,  all yet to be sorted.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?


This is a thread about Trump, is it not?

Moreover, when did I ever say that I'm willing to overlook Obama's alleged warmongering?


Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:10pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?


The question was rhetorical, Mr Hammer, to make a point.  That being, why did you ask Mr Peccary such a dumb question when he has made his opinion about Trump loud and clear many times.  Central to his concerns are those allegations of child rape, and sexual assault of women,  all yet to be sorted.
So you believe  allegations then?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?


This is a thread about Trump, is it not?

Moreover, when did I ever say that I'm willing to overlook Obama's alleged warmongering?
Seeing that Obama has blood and his hands and trump doesn't I can't work out why you don't bag out Obama everyday?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?


This is a thread about Trump, is it not?

Moreover, when did I ever say that I'm willing to overlook Obama's alleged warmongering?
Seeing that Obama has blood and his hands and trump doesn't I can't work out why you don't bag out Obama everyday?


Trump is responsible for the death of a sweet, innocent 8 year old girl, a US commando, and at least 15 other innocent people (that we know of).

You're very quick to apologise for him, though.

Why is that?




Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?


The question was rhetorical, Mr Hammer, to make a point.  That being, why did you ask Mr Peccary such a dumb question when he has made his opinion about Trump loud and clear many times.  Central to his concerns are those allegations of child rape, and sexual assault of women,  all yet to be sorted.
So you believe  allegations then?


I believe there are very serious allegations, all yet to be sorted.  If "Rolf Harris" can be hounded as "he" has been, so must Trump when these allegations arise.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?


This is a thread about Trump, is it not?

Moreover, when did I ever say that I'm willing to overlook Obama's alleged warmongering?
Seeing that Obama has blood and his hands and trump doesn't I can't work out why you don't bag out Obama everyday?


Trump is responsible for the death of a sweet, innocent 8 year old girl, a US commando, and at least 15 other innocent people (that we know of).

You're very quick to apologise for him, though.

Why is that?

So you are some union law crap artist and you believe in allegations without legal prosecution.  :D

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:21pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?


The question was rhetorical, Mr Hammer, to make a point.  That being, why did you ask Mr Peccary such a dumb question when he has made his opinion about Trump loud and clear many times.  Central to his concerns are those allegations of child rape, and sexual assault of women,  all yet to be sorted.
So you believe  allegations then?


I believe there are very serious allegations, all yet to be sorted.  If "Rolf Harris" can be hounded as "he" has been, so must Trump when these allegations arise.
You do know there is a difference between allegations and reality?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Aussie on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:02pm:
What was your motivation for bagging Clinton, all the time, Mr Hammer?
which one?


The question was rhetorical, Mr Hammer, to make a point.  That being, why did you ask Mr Peccary such a dumb question when he has made his opinion about Trump loud and clear many times.  Central to his concerns are those allegations of child rape, and sexual assault of women,  all yet to be sorted.
So you believe  allegations then?


I believe there are very serious allegations, all yet to be sorted.  If "Rolf Harris" can be hounded as "he" has been, so must Trump when these allegations arise.
You do know there is a difference between allegations and reality?




Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.


He's an evil prick, Homo.

I tend to lay sh!t on evil pricks as much as I can.

Tell me, what did Hitler ever do to you?
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


If you insist on answering my questions with a question, you will be ignored.

I answered your question - now you repay the favour.
I'm just trying to work out why you are overlooking Obamas warmongering?


This is a thread about Trump, is it not?

Moreover, when did I ever say that I'm willing to overlook Obama's alleged warmongering?
Seeing that Obama has blood and his hands and trump doesn't I can't work out why you don't bag out Obama everyday?


Trump is responsible for the death of a sweet, innocent 8 year old girl, a US commando, and at least 15 other innocent people (that we know of).

You're very quick to apologise for him, though.

Why is that?

So you are some union law crap artist and you believe in allegations without legal prosecution.  :D


It's not an allegation - it's a fact.

Trump is responsible for the death of a sweet, innocent 8 year old girl, a US commando, and at least 15 other innocent people (that we know of).

Why do you continue to defend him?

If he came to your house, and wanted to rape your wife and children, would you pour him a drink first?


Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by cods on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:49pm

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
Michael Flynn reportedly misled the vice president about conversations with Russia. Sean Spicer has never found his stride. Kellyanne Conway is in Congress’s sights. Welcome to Survivor: West Wing.

It is a truth universally peddled by wisemen and women in Washington, though not necessarily obeyed by presidents, that when the White House is in trouble, the best cure is to hoist the head of an adviser on a spike of the fence encircling the executive mansion.

Firing—sorry, accepting the resignation of—an adviser makes for an easy way to demonstrate that the administration understands it has a problem and is working to fix it. That person doesn’t necessarily need to be the root of the problem, though it’s helpful if they’re at least somewhat involved. Other times, some bad press offers a useful pretext for pushing out someone who was already on thin ice.

If President Trump wants to find a sacrificial lamb, he’s got options. There’s Sean Spicer, whose bumbling performances as press secretary have earned him a brutal mockery on Saturday Night Live and, reportedly, the dissatisfaction of the president. There’s Kellyanne Conway, who has proven a more effective spokesperson for the Oval Office but is also more prone to major blunders, and who finds herself in the crosshairs of congressional overseers after exhorting people to buy Ivanka Trump’s line of clothing.

But as of Thursday evening, the betting pool for who gets voted off the island first has a new favorite: National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. It had long been known that Flynn had spoken with Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak prior to Trump’s inauguration. That raised eyebrows, given Trump’s positive comment about Vladimir Putin’s regime, Putin’s more or less open cheerleading for Trump, and what the U.S. intelligence community says was Russian hacking intended to help Trump during the campaign. Flynn confirmed the conversations, but insisted he had not discussed sanctions that the Obama administration levied on Russia in retaliation for that hacking. Such a conversation would risk violating the Logan Act, which bars citizens from negotiating with foreign governments without authorization.

Michael Flynn's disaster

This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory. They didn't even know how to turn on lights in the building.

It is going to be a wild 4 years





it also goes to show what sort of out going govt was living in  the white house...

it is after all the head of the country......

we can see the hatred in this country from the sore loser brigade 

so one can only imagine the animosity left by the Obamas for the Trump admin to face.....

and they claim to care about Americans.. really?.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Raven on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:03pm

cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
Michael Flynn reportedly misled the vice president about conversations with Russia. Sean Spicer has never found his stride. Kellyanne Conway is in Congress’s sights. Welcome to Survivor: West Wing.

It is a truth universally peddled by wisemen and women in Washington, though not necessarily obeyed by presidents, that when the White House is in trouble, the best cure is to hoist the head of an adviser on a spike of the fence encircling the executive mansion.

Firing—sorry, accepting the resignation of—an adviser makes for an easy way to demonstrate that the administration understands it has a problem and is working to fix it. That person doesn’t necessarily need to be the root of the problem, though it’s helpful if they’re at least somewhat involved. Other times, some bad press offers a useful pretext for pushing out someone who was already on thin ice.

If President Trump wants to find a sacrificial lamb, he’s got options. There’s Sean Spicer, whose bumbling performances as press secretary have earned him a brutal mockery on Saturday Night Live and, reportedly, the dissatisfaction of the president. There’s Kellyanne Conway, who has proven a more effective spokesperson for the Oval Office but is also more prone to major blunders, and who finds herself in the crosshairs of congressional overseers after exhorting people to buy Ivanka Trump’s line of clothing.

But as of Thursday evening, the betting pool for who gets voted off the island first has a new favorite: National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. It had long been known that Flynn had spoken with Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak prior to Trump’s inauguration. That raised eyebrows, given Trump’s positive comment about Vladimir Putin’s regime, Putin’s more or less open cheerleading for Trump, and what the U.S. intelligence community says was Russian hacking intended to help Trump during the campaign. Flynn confirmed the conversations, but insisted he had not discussed sanctions that the Obama administration levied on Russia in retaliation for that hacking. Such a conversation would risk violating the Logan Act, which bars citizens from negotiating with foreign governments without authorization.

Michael Flynn's disaster

This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory. They didn't even know how to turn on lights in the building.

It is going to be a wild 4 years





it also goes to show what sort of out going govt was living in  the white house...

it is after all the head of the country......

we can see the hatred in this country from the sore loser brigade 

so one can only imagine the animosity left by the Obamas for the Trump admin to face.....

and they claim to care about Americans.. really?.


No sure what you are on about there cods.

If by animosity you are talking about White House staff the incoming president brings his own staff and the previous administration's staff leave.

There are only 100 permanent staff in the White House and they consist of butlers, maids, cooks, plumbers, engineers, and florist.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by mortdooley on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:55pm
greggy has gotten quite tiresome, his obsession with pedophilia is telling. Sensational story after sensational story about Trumps perverse behavior have proven false. He never smoked, indulged in illegal drugs or drank alcohol. As much as anyone can prove all his sexual encounters were consensual with women of legal age. If Trump was Black everything he has done and been accused of would be just fine with the same people attacking him now!

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:07am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:03pm:
So Obama wasn't evil Pecca Breath?


No he wasn't.

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by Dnarever on Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:11am

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:55pm:
greggy has gotten quite tiresome, his obsession with pedophilia is telling. Sensational story after sensational story about Trumps perverse behavior have proven false. He never smoked, indulged in illegal drugs or drank alcohol. As much as anyone can prove all his sexual encounters were consensual with women of legal age. If Trump was Black everything he has done and been accused of would be just fine with the same people attacking him now!


Sensational story after sensational story about Trumps perverse behaviour have proven false.


They have ? can you show us where ?

My recollection is that none has been shown to be false in any way. Mostly just ignored in the belief that it will go away.

You do realise that the accusations about his expectation of getting away with sexual assault was raised by himself?

Title: Re: Who will be the first victim of White House chaos?
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
This has to be one of the most inept incoming administrations in living memory.

There's not a sane person alive who would argue with that assessment.


Raven wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
It is going to be a wild 4 years

That's a very optimistic assessment.
What has Trump done to you pecca? Why are you always banging on about him?


Does it annoy you?
i'm just trying to work out your motivation for bagging him all of the time.



what is your motivation for continually lauding him?

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