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Title: This lady is spot on Post by bogarde73 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:24am
President Trump’s executive order regarding seven terror-infested countries could not be more critical to ensuring the safety of all Americans. Those who oppose this executive order do so at their own peril and that of their fellow citizens.
First of all, there is no “Muslim ban,” contrary to what the fake news media would have you believe. There is a ban against travel to the U.S. from seven of the highest risk countries for terrorist activity. It isn’t President Trump’s fault all seven of those countries happen to be almost entirely Islamic. If the Vatican presented the same risk for terrorism as Somalia, they too would have been listed in the executive order. Fortunately, we seem to have the Catholic suicide bomber threat under control. For too long, Americans have been held captive by the chains of political correctness. While the election of President Trump signaled the beginning of our nation’s awakening, many would prefer we go back to sleep. After September 11th, 2001, Americans couldn’t understand the psychology of someone who would fly a plane into a building, in exchange for what they believed would be 72 virgins in paradise. They couldn’t understand because they were assigning their own civilized ideals to Islamic radicals, whose beliefs were from a different realm. More than a decade later, we are still battling this same enemy, which has metastasized tremendously. Not only are we struggling to eliminate Islamic terrorism in the Middle East, we are welcoming this enemy onto our shores with open arms. Refugee resettlement from terror-ridden countries is one of the most dangerous endeavors our nation could implement. Contrary to what some lawmakers and the fake news media have repeated, it is an incontrovertible fact that refugees have committed alarming crimes, and terrorist attacks against our nation. To outline just a sample of these attacks: •Somali refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan went on a jihadi stabbing rampage at Ohio State. •In 2016, an Iraqi refugee Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan was accused of planning to bomb a local mall in Texas. •In September 2016, a Somali-Kenyan immigrant named Dahir Adan went on a stabbing spree at a mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota. •Somali refugee Mohamed Osman Mohamed was arrested for planning to blow up a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Oregon back in 2010. •In 2012, Abdullatif Ali Aldosary, an Iraqi refugee, bombed a Social Security Office in Arizona. •Two Iraqi refugees were convicted for having aided Al-Qaeda in Iraq in killing American servicemen. These so-called “refugees,” lied on their applications, and as proof that the screening process is ineffective, were allowed entry without issue. •Both Boston Bombers, the Tsarnaev Brothers, were asylum-seekers fleeing Russia and living in Kyrgyzstan before entering the United States. For some, the facts simply don’t matter. They are going to push their radical, anti-American, open borders propaganda no matter what. But the average American needs to hear the truth! Not only are we allowing large numbers of un-vetted Islamic refugees from terror haven nations, we are doing so courtesy of the U.S. tax payer. Americans are literally financing their own endangerment! So why the continued opposition to a safer America? While big businesses like Starbucks pathetically virtue signal by pledging to hire 10,000 refugees, what they don’t tell you is that for each refugee hired, they receive a $2,400 tax credit. You do the math. But don’t make Starbucks feel like the Lone Ranger. Religious institutions have also benefited financially to an enormous extent from refugee resettlement. Catholic Charities, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, World Relief Corporation, Church World Service, and Domestic and Foreign Missionary Service of the Episcopal Church of the USA all have contracts with the federal government to resettle refugees, with a significant number of them Islamic. These religious institutions often use collection plates on Sunday that their members believe is going to help poor Christians, or the Church itself, then turn around to use them for refugee resettlement. Within four months, these institutions have no responsibility to even know where the refugee is. It’s a beautiful thing for them. They get rich, and can still fly the false flag of moral superiority. We cannot stay on this suicidal path any longer. Either we do what is necessary to protect our borders and our way of life, or we suffer the consequences Europe is now enduring. One of the Islamic radicals who participated in the slaughter of innocent Parisians in November 2015 did so by gaining entry using a Syrian passport, gaining entry as a “refugee.” Is this the future we want for ourselves? For our children? That is why we must stand behind President Trump’s executive order, not out of “Islamophobia,” as the usual anti-American fringe proclaims, but out of safety, and common sense. To stand in solidarity with President Trump’s executive order to protect the nation, go to actforamerica.org/petition. The time has come to end political correctness, before it ends us. :Brigitte Gabriel http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/06/gabriel-president-trumps-executive-order-vital-protecting-america/ |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:41am
Weird that anyone trusts Breitbart.
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:45am |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by The Mechanic on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:50am
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and look no further that Sweden, France and Germany to see what a disaster these maggot Muslim Immigrants have been... and whats worse... the Leftist Corrupt Governments cover up all of the statistics that show these grubs in a bad light.. or make "hate speech" laws so that you can't speak out... some MPs have been charged just because their opinion is that they should stop immigration... like WTF?? you can't even have a different opinion to a leftist or you'll be charged and thrown in jail??? isn't that fascism??? = authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy, absolute rule, Nazism.. and just recently in Sweden a handicapped woman was raped by a gang of immigrant muslims for hours and hours.. then they BLAMED the Handicapped women for now fighting back hard enough... although she sustained multiple injuries.. what?? so the people took to the streets in protest of this disgusting crime and how this woman was treated... so then.. the Main Stream Media called these protestors Nazi's... OMFG>>> :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o and this is what Hillary Clinton was about to do to the US... they sure dodged a bullet when they voted Trump... |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:52am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:41am:
Yes, 'weird' is one way of describing it. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by The Mechanic on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:54am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:52am:
yes.. Weid that the same flogs come into every thread that exposes Muslim Immigrant crime and start deflecting... :-/ |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:56am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Deflecting? No deflecting here: Comments? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:57am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Why post if you dont want a discussion? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by The Mechanic on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:57am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:56am:
are they members of your family? they sure are ugly enough to be... ugh.. :-/ |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:58am "There is a ban against travel to the U.S. from seven of the highest risk countries for terrorist activity." :-/ |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:00am Why does The Mechanic condone terrorism from Saudi Arabia? Why do 3,000 deaths mean nothing to him? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:11am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:50am:
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:17am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:00am:
Silence from The Mechanic: an admission that he condones Saudi terrorism. Does Sprint share his misguided views. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:37am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:45am:
So he is correct in banning mussies, but he needs to ban more of them to make it work better. I agree and we should do likewise. Good to see you are getting on board with it. :) :) |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:40am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:17am:
I share your views, all mussies should be banned from the US and also from Australia, because they all breed filthy terrorists. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:42am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:37am:
Excuse me? President Trump told journalists at the White House that ... it was not a "Muslim ban". http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38786462 Who's telling lies: you or Trump? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:45am
Yes why was the country with the worst record of exporting terrorists not on Donald's list?
Your thoughts Mechanic? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Panther on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:51am BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:40am:
Gotta love ignore!! ➤ Someone somewhere said, I just can't recall where, so I'll paraphrase their statement, "....Why don't they just euthanize every last one of the 1.6 billion Muslim men, women, & children, & then let the One True God sort them out....?" |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:53am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:42am:
Muslims, terrorists; if it works, it works I couldn't give a fkk how he presents the ban, it is for filthy |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by longweekend58 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:58am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:41am:
yuo could not get a more compromised source of information than that. Not just because it is an extreme-right site but it is OWNED by steve bannon, the guy who actually designed and write the order in the first place. absolutely worthless. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:04pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:53am:
So, you lied? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:07pm Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:45am:
Could this have anything to do with it? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:08pm Panther wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:51am:
You know you made a statement about a question(asked by a third, un-named party) and that does not require an actual reply? However if you wanted not to be ignored as you believe you are, you should have asked a question about the question and either targeted to a specific person or asked it to a general audience. :) :) You weren't educated in new south wales were you? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
That I agreed with you in banning more muslims / terrorsists; I don't think I did. But I see you are trying to get out of this hole you dug for yourself by using the tried and true method of arguing semantics. Well keep going fkktard, you're not out of it yet. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:16pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
I don't agree with Trump's ban. So, you lied or Trump lied - which one is it? And, why is Saudi Arabia off the list? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Agnes on Feb 8th, 2017 at 1:35pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:57am:
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by bogarde73 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:28pm
What has all this stupid argument to do with the essential argument the author of the article has made.
Is she wrong or right in her argument? To me it seems no sensible person could do other than agree with her. And it has nothing to do with Breitbart. Did you look at the writer's experience and credentials bojack? No you didn't did you? Just stamp it with Breitbart and.close your brain down. An eminently sensible woman with an indisputable argument. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:35pm bogarde73 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
Her "argument" is a joke, at best. She mentions 9/11, but then fails to explain why Saudi Arabia isn't on the list. 3,000 people killed on that day. The worst terrorist attack on US soil, and 15 of the terrorists came from Saudi Arabia. If the ban is all about protecting Americans, why was Saudi Arabia left off the list? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:45pm
Clowns, the list of countries was from a terror assessment done on Obamas watch and wasn't based only on attacks done on America but on the potential of attacks and those countries internal governance, border controls, intelligence screening and investigation capabilities and cooperation with intelligence sharing with America.
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by cods on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:52pm Quote:
ooops the Catholicphobics wont like that news.. they tell us Catholics are the most wicked evil children molesting people in the world....the world should be rid of them./.. so the pure and merciful Muslims can spread the good word and control the world as it should be... and we all live in peace... amen! |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:54pm cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
The Royal Commission says they punch above their weight when it comes to kiddie fiddling, cods. What do you make of that? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:13pm Secret Wars wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:45pm:
source? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Fireball on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:20pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Do you have a pie? |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:28pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Source you say, amusing. Do you ask because you do not know? In December 2015, President Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address "the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters." The restrictions specifically limited what is known as visa-waiver travel by those who had visited one of the seven countries within the specified time period. People who previously could have entered the United States without a visa were instead required to apply for one if they had traveled to one of the seven countries. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump-administration-chose-the-7-countries/# |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Panther on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:34pm cods wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Yes, Islam.....The Religion of Peace....Where every Man can take as many prepubescent brides as he wishes....Greggy will sexually assault himself & not care.....broken back & all!!! |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Sad Kangaroo on Feb 8th, 2017 at 4:12pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:50am:
Wowsers... |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by BigOl64 on Feb 8th, 2017 at 5:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
You were the one carrying on like a loon damanding to know why the saudis were not on the list. I agree those fkken scumbags, muslim / terrorsts should be on the list.. I agreed with your demand to demand to know why the saudies were not on the list. So I cant see where the lie is, you fkken loon. Im with you, the more on the list the better. :) :) |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:27pm BigOl64 wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
You really struggle with English, don't you? I suppose your substandard education in the Army is to blame. I asked why Saudi Arabia was not on the list. At no time did I say that Saudi Arabia should be on the list. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:52pm Fuzzball wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
source, not sauce .... you fool |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:54pm Secret Wars wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
so no source for your stupid claim? I didn't think so . and the restriction from Obama was placed on certain people, not countries ... there is a difference. When you figure it out, let me know. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:09pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
Nothing I said is incorrect, don't like CNN, how about DHS? WASHINGTON—The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries. ... Last month, the United States began implementing changes under the Act. The three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals. Under the new law, the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive these restrictions if he determines that such a waiver is in the law enforcement or national security interests of the United States. Such waivers will be granted only on a case-by-case basis. As a general matter, categories of travelers who may be eligible for a waiver include individuals who traveled to these countries on behalf of international organizations, regional organizations, and sub-national governments on official duty; on behalf of a humanitarian NGO on official duty; or as a journalist for reporting purposes. The addition of these three countries is indicative of the Department’s continued focus on the threat of foreign fighters. DHS continues to review the security of the Visa Waiver Program, the threat environment, and potential vulnerabilities. This is the latest step in a series of actions over the past 15 months to strengthen the security of the Visa Waiver Program and ensure the Program’s requirements are commensurate with the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters, many of whom are nationals of Visa Waiver Program countries. http://archive.is/6MHuf |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:57pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:38pm John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:57pm:
I made no mention of the country bans v Obamas people bans, I was informing the clowns in this thread why the seven country's that Trump banned were selected, it was due to assessments by the DHA under Obama. Nothing I said was wrong. I also noted with bemusement your post time, instead of trolling and abusing the forum 24/7 all day and night racking up silly high post counts, get a job ya dole bludging bum. If you spent a tenth of the energy you spend tapping away here day and night you might be able to achieve...well I dunno, probably not much, but you are achieving nuffin huffing and puffing here all day and night. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:47pm Secret Wars wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
sure it is, one has nothing to do with the other .. the assessments Obama made never suggested they ban all travel from any countries, only people traveling into , then out of certain countries whose travel could not be adequately explained. Secret Wars wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
;D ;D ;D the last bastion of the ignorant. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:53pm
Read back the thread arse clown, nothing I said was wrong, the list of countries was from a terror assessment done on Obamas watch.
WASHINGTON—The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries. ... Last month, the United States began implementing changes under the Act. The three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals. Under the new law, the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive these restrictions if he determines that such a waiver is in the law enforcement or national security interests of the United States. Such waivers will be granted only on a case-by-case basis. As a general matter, categories of travelers who may be eligible for a waiver include individuals who traveled to these countries on behalf of international organizations, regional organizations, and sub-national governments on official duty; on behalf of a humanitarian NGO on official duty; or as a journalist for reporting purposes. The addition of these three countries is indicative of the Department’s continued focus on the threat of foreign fighters. DHS continues to review the security of the Visa Waiver Program, the threat environment, and potential vulnerabilities. This is the latest step in a series of actions over the past 15 months to strengthen the security of the Visa Waiver Program and ensure the Program’s requirements are commensurate with the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters, many of whom are nationals of Visa Waiver Program countries. http://archive.is/6MHuf |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by Secret Wars on Feb 9th, 2017 at 6:02pm John Smith wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Did I say they did? Once more for the oxygen deprived, all I said was the list of countries was done from a terror assessment done on Obamas watch. Sitting on your arse all day and into the night 7 days a week has addled your brain, step away from the monitor get some sunshine and fresh air you troglodyte troll. |
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Title: Re: This lady is spot on Post by John Smith on Feb 9th, 2017 at 6:07pm Secret Wars wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
an assessment set up with a totally different purpose. :D :D |
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