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The White House has refused to send its spokespeople or surrogates onto CNN shows, effectively icing out the network from on-air administration voices. “We’re sending surrogates to places where we think it makes sense to promote our agenda,” said a White House official, acknowledging that CNN is not such a place, but adding that the ban is not permanent. A CNN reporter, speaking on background, was more blunt: The White House is trying to punish the network and force down its ratings. “They’re trying to cull CNN from the herd,” the reporter said. Administration officials are still answering questions from CNN reporters. But administration officials including White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer and senior counselor Kellyanne Conway haven't appeared on the network's programming in recent weeks. Spicer, speaking at an event at the George Washington University on Monday, denied that CNN was being frozen out, pointing out that he’s answered CNN’s questions in the regular daily briefings. But, he added "I'm not going to sit around and engage with people who have no desire to actually get something right." The last time an administration official was on CNN’s Sunday public affairs show “State of the Union” was Conway on January 8. She also appeared on CNN the following Wednesday with Anderson Cooper, the same day as then President-elect Trump's press conference where he derided CNN for publishing a report that intelligence officials had briefed both Trump and former President Barack Obama that the Russians may have negative information about Trump. At the press conference, the president-elect refused to take a question from CNN correspondent Jim Acosta, who shouted out to him to answer his question since he was attacking his news organization. After his inauguration, Trump has continued blasting CNN as “fake news." Since then, Conway, Spicer, Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and even Vice President Mike Pence have made the rounds on the major Sunday shows but, notably, CNN’s “State of the Union" has been cut out. “State of the Union” anchor Jake Tapper said on his show and via Twitter that the White House has declined his invitations to appear. "We invited the Trump White House to offer us a guest to provide clarity and an explanation of what the president just did, especially given so much confusion, even within its own government by those who are supposed to carry out this order,” Tapper said on Sunday as he introduced a segment about the Executive Order banning visitors from some countries and putting a hold on the United States’ refugee policy. "The Trump White House declined our invitation.” Tapper said something similar the previous Sunday. Last week, New York Magazine reported that Trump’s feud with CNN has roots in his relationship with its president, Jeff Zucker, a former NBC president who brought Trump's “The Apprentice” television show to the network. Trump, the magazine reported, has told White House staffers that he feels personally betrayed by Zucker and that Zucker should be programming CNN more favorably toward him because of their long relationship. In an interview with New York Magazine, Zucker said he’s not worried about getting access to Trump. “I think the era of access journalism as we’ve known it is over,” Zucker said. “I think our credibility is higher than ever, and our viewership is higher than ever, and our reporting is as strong as ever.” “One of the things I think this administration hasn’t figured out yet is that there’s only one television network that is seen in Beijing, Moscow, Seoul, Tokyo, Pyongyang, Baghdad, Tehran, and Damascus — and that’s CNN,” he noted. Part of the effort to ice out CNN may be related to ratings. CNN “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter wrote in one of his recent newsletters that an aide in “Trumpworld” told him that his ratings would likely be hurt "because no Trump administration officials had agreed to be interviewed.” Stelter said in that newsletter that his ratings were in fact his highest since last November's election coverage at 1.3 million viewers. It’s hard to tell whether “State of the Union” ratings have been affected by the lack of Trump officials, considering that it's less than two weeks since the Inauguration. While far behind the broadcast shows and “Fox & Friends” on cable news, the last two weeks of “State of the Union” have seen higher ratings than on Jan. 8, the last time a Trump official appeared. They've also won the demo (the key age group advertisers use) over the last two weeks, and last Sunday the show had 1.25 million viewers during the 9 a.m. broadcast, and 1.42 million viewers in the noon rebroadcast. It's not unusual for a White House to tangle with certain outlets. A former official in President Barack Obama's office acknowledged that they had their "battles with Fox," and that there may have been some times where "we sent people on other networks and not on Fox." But as a general rule, the official said, officials would go on the network...............

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-cnn-press-234455

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"I'm not going to sit around and engage with people who have no desire to actually get something right."

Fair enough.

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"I'm not going to sit around and engage with people who have no desire to actually get something right."

So how does he put up with Kellyanne Conway?

One thing that Donald Trump has succeeded in.

He has called out the main stream media for the lying faking cheats that they are.

They tried so desperately to make him look like the anti Christ..but all they succeeded in doing was making him more popular.

Because...the average Joe CAN'T STAND the mainstream media which has been shovelling horse sh.t down our throats for years.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Quote: "I'm not going to sit around and engage with people who have no desire to actually get something right." Fair enough.

I see hes met gweggy :) :) :) :)

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 1:38pm:

One thing that Donald Trump has succeeded in. He has called out the main stream media for the lying faking cheats that they are. They tried so desperately to make him look like the anti Christ..but all they succeeded in doing was making him more popular. Because...the average Joe CAN'T STAND the mainstream media which has been shovelling horse sh.t down our throats for years.

It was his whole campaign  :)

Sucko CNN. I hope it bites the dust.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Sucko CNN. I hope it bites the dust.

yeah, I'm sure it'll go bust just because thrump won't talk to them  :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:02pm: Sucko CNN. I hope it bites the dust. yeah, I'm sure it'll go bust just because thrump won't talk to them  :D :D :D :D

It certainly won't help them.

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

Clinton was so comfortable with her numbers in the mainstream States she couldn't be bothered to get off her lard arse and go see for herself how middle America was suffering. Trump's genuine interest in their plight  made sense to a vast part of America which had been buried and forgotten.

Well Middle America reminded Hillary Clinton that there are more places in America than New York and Bel Air. They helped boost Donald Trump over the line.

Already he is starting to repay their trust.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:04pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:02pm: Sucko CNN. I hope it bites the dust. yeah, I'm sure it'll go bust just because thrump won't talk to them  :D :D :D :D It certainly won't help them.

it won't make any difference. these days one news organisation does the interview or asks the questions, everyone else copies the stories. That why you were able to name several news sites claiming someone yelled out alla akbar in canada the other day.

They'll still have opinions on his policies etc. and they'll still highlight his lies.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 1:23pm:

[quote]The White House has refused to send its spokespeople or surrogates onto CNN shows, effectively icing out the network from on-air administration voices. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-cnn-press-234455

Brilliant - yet another good move. I might leave something in my Will for Trump. I'm sure he would appreciate it.

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:04pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:02pm: Sucko CNN. I hope it bites the dust. yeah, I'm sure it'll go bust just because thrump won't talk to them  :D :D :D :D It certainly won't help them. it won't make any difference. these days one news organisation does the interview or asks the questions, everyone else copies the stories. That why you were able to name several news sites claiming someone yelled out alla akbar in canada the other day. They'll still have opinions on his policies etc. and they'll still highlight his lies.

Nobody likes a biased news service. CNN is mud to your average working white American. It's worse than the ABC and SBS put together. It's ratings will suffer due to it's constant Trump attacking.

Well actually it isn't rubbish John. Have a little look at the States in Middle America where Trump crucified Clinton..right there..that's where she lost the election.


PS If you want the truth then go to the social networks. That's the only place you will find the truth these days. Main stream media are a team of sh.t

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

Nobody likes a biased news service.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

didn't stop you cheering for murdoch when gillard was in govt.  :D :D

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:16pm: Nobody likes a biased news service. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D didn't stop you cheering for murdoch when gillard was in govt.  :D :D

I dislike the media muppet.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

Okay.  So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration?

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

Well actually it isn't rubbish John. Have a little look at the States in Middle America where Trump crucified Clinton..right there..that's where she lost the election. PS If you want the truth then go to the social networks. That's the only place you will find the truth these days. Main stream media are a team of sh.t

Aren't they ever.

Nothing but propaganda agencies for liberal-progressive socialist ideologies.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.

Name them (no Google) and then Google gerrymandering.  


... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Pretty sure she did. Hippie.

Ah.  They're gerrymandered, yet for some reason the democrats still took them for granted.  Not very clever.

Either a rookie mistake by Hilarys campaign, complete bullshit on your part or a bit of both. 

But why?  What are you mad about?

The Democrats most certainly did not take them for granted, Honky. From Bill Clinton on, their mantra has been, "it's the economy, stupid". Since the GFC, unemployment under Obama dropped from over 10% to less than 5%.

The US has been working on a policy framework similar to Keating's back in the 1990s. With free trade, manufacturing jobs go, but service jobs are created. Keating and both Clintons have promoted the creation of a "smart economy", promoting education to get people away from repetitive, low-skilled manufacturing jobs.

From an economic/GDP point of view, it makes no sense to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. Higher skilled work produces more wealth per capita. Trump's infrastructure plans make far more sense. If done properly, this will bring economic growth, but this rely on free trade to make use of those highways and bridges. Infrastructure brings economic growth if it allows more people have access to more goods and services.

Tariffs are the last thing Trump's voters will want. They would raise prices of imported goods by up to a third.

Trump's plans are not fully spelt out. Some are good and some are bad. Before he joined the Republicans, he campaigned to raise income taxes on the rich back to pre-Reagan levels of 50-60%. This would also be a good plan - if he does it.

It remains to be seen whether Trump does get the economy going, or if he just plans to be a president for the billionaires' club he belongs to.

My money's on the latter. In the US, the Democrats are seen as the more fiscally responsible party. Clinton created a surplus that Bush blew with foreign wars and more tax cuts for the rich.

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:23pm:

The Democrats most certainly did not take them for granted, Honky.

Why did this opening passage bear no relation to the rest of it?

Please stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D

fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote?

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Ah.  They're gerrymandered, yet for some reason the democrats still took them for granted.  Not very clever. Either a rookie mistake by Hilarys campaign, complete bullshit on your part or a bit of both.  But why?  What are you mad about?

Am I mad? News to me.

You on the other hand are full of complete poo.

Marla wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:56pm: Ah.  They're gerrymandered, yet for some reason the democrats still took them for granted.  Not very clever. Either a rookie mistake by Hilarys campaign, complete bullshit on your part or a bit of both.  But why?  What are you mad about? Am I mad? News to me. You on the other hand are full of complete poo.

Cool.  So the rust belt states didn't flip red and Donald Trump isn't president?

News to me.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. Okay.  So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration?

their needs and concerns hadn't been met by ANY administration, democrat or republic.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:23pm: The Democrats most certainly did not take them for granted, Honky. Why did this opening passage bear no relation to the rest of it? Please stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

The Democrats halved unemployment and paid off some of Bush's deficit.

I'm not sure why you're arguing. I'm not.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:29pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. Okay.  So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration? their needs and concerns hadn't been met by ANY administration, democrat or republic.

And? 

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote?

FFS Wog he has just been elected  the black prick had 8 years and did F/ALL   ;D

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 1:38pm:

One thing that Donald Trump has succeeded in. He has called out the main stream media for the lying faking cheats that they are. They tried so desperately to make him look like the anti Christ..but all they succeeded in doing was making him more popular.

"more popular"?

What colour is the sky in your world, red?

Trump is the least popular incoming President in modern history.

Moreover, he received 3,000,000 less votes than Clinton.

"Not since the mid-1970s has a president-elect been so unpopular"

"Trump is least popular incoming president since 1940s"

"Trump most unpopular incoming president in decades: polls"

"Second week of 'Resist Trump' protests"

"More anti-Trump protests slated for Super Bowl week"

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:27pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote? FFS Wog he has just been elected  the black prick had 8 years and did F/ALL   ;D

listen stupid, I'll break it down so hopefully even you can understand ... hammer seems to think people don't vote for you unless you do something for them,

fine, I'll accept that if you tell me what trump did for them to earn their vote?

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:29pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. Okay.  So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration? their needs and concerns hadn't been met by ANY administration, democrat or republic. And?

and Reds comment that they voted for trump because the democrats ingnored them is rubbish ... they voted for trump because he wasn't a politician.

stop arguing just for the sake of it.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:33pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:31pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:27pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote? FFS Wog he has just been elected  the black prick had 8 years and did F/ALL   ;D listen stupid, I'll break it down so hopefully even you can understand ... hammer seems to think people don't vote for you unless you do something for them, fine, I'll accept that if you tell me what trump did for them to earn their vote?

He addressed their concerns more than his opposition did.

What part of this is a mystery?

Well that is hardly surprising.

Why would anyone from Donald Trump's administration want to appear on the Clinton News Network ???


:)

Yadda wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:37pm:

Well that is hardly surprising. Why would anyone from Donald Trump's administration want to appear on the Clinton News Network ??? :)

To explain policies.....oh wait.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:33pm: bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:31pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:27pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote? FFS Wog he has just been elected  the black prick had 8 years and did F/ALL   ;D listen stupid, I'll break it down so hopefully even you can understand ... hammer seems to think people don't vote for you unless you do something for them, fine, I'll accept that if you tell me what trump did for them to earn their vote? He addressed their concerns more than his opposition did. What part of this is a mystery?

Even that is a stretch ... the only thing one can argue is that trump gave them some sort of hope that he'd do things differently.

In my opinion it's misguided hope, but when people are desperate they'll listen to anything. Charlatans have been coning people out of good money for years using that very principle.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:35pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:33pm: bwood1946 wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:31pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:27pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:26pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:23pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:11pm: red baron wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 2:07pm: Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats. rubbish The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.  They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble. So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? ;D ;D ;D fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote? FFS Wog he has just been elected  the black prick had 8 years and did F/ALL   ;D listen stupid, I'll break it down so hopefully even you can understand ... hammer seems to think people don't vote for you unless you do something for them, fine, I'll accept that if you tell me what trump did for them to earn their vote? He addressed their concerns more than his opposition did. What part of this is a mystery? Even that is a stretch ... the only thing one can argue is that trump gave them some sort of hope that he'd do things differently.

Sure.  And if their concern had been addressed they wouldn't want things done differently. 

So where's the stretch?

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:43pm:

So where's the stretch?

he hasn't addressed anything yet ... grandiose statements that change every second day isn't really doing anything. 

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:52pm:

... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:43pm: So where's the stretch? he hasn't addressed anything yet ... grandiose statements that change every second day isn't really doing anything.

Oh OK.  The nonstop outrage cycle since the election must be because the left are upset that he hasn't addressed anything.  No wall, no "muslim ban", no nuffin.

Checks out.

No John, they voted for Donald Trump because he went to where they lived, he listened to what they had to say. On the contrary Hillary Clinton couldn't have given a sh.t what they had to say or what their situation was. She didn't imagine in her wildest dreams that her gross ignorance would end up in costing her office.


Stiff el sh.tto Hillary I would conclude

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

Well actually it isn't rubbish John. Have a little look at the States in Middle America where Trump crucified Clinton..right there..that's where she lost the election. PS If you want the truth then go to the social networks. That's the only place you will find the truth these days. Main stream media are a team of sh.t

You truly are a bloody idiot. A gullible fool.

truth on social networks????  what a dimwit u are.

Smith keeps banging on over and over about what  Trump has done to deserve his appointment. The nitwit doesn't seem to realise that he's only been in power for just over a bloody week. Give him a go!

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:10pm:

t what  Trump has done to deserve his appointment.

that wasn't what I said ... YOU said people don't vote for you if you've done nothing for them

people voted for trump and he hadn't done anything for them? how do you tie that in with your stupid statement?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Smith keeps banging on over and over about what  Trump has done to deserve his appointment. The nitwit doesn't seem to realise that he's only been in power for just over a bloody week. Give him a go!

and his first act was to demand that the media tell everyone that he had the biggest inauguration attendance EVER - despite the fact it was once of the smallest.  And he went on and on and on and on about it...

Then he demanded that the media confirm that ther were 3-5million illegal votes despite the evidence that there wasnt. And he went on and on and on about it.


not great so far.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:10pm: t what  Trump has done to deserve his appointment. that wasn't what I said ... YOU said people don't vote for you if you've done nothing for them people voted for trump and he hadn't done anything for them? how do you tie that in with your stupid statement?

That's how politics works numptoid. People vote you in on promises. Don't come up with the goods and you get assholed like Labor always does.Geeeezzzzz! ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:15pm:

That's how politics works numptoid

I'm well aware of how politics work, that's why I would never say anything as absurd as 'people won't vote for you if you've done nothing for them'.


Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:15pm:

People vote you in on promises.

hooray


Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Don't come up with the goods and you get assholed like Labor always does

cause the libs never lose?  :D :D :D .... no wonder everyone thinks you're an idiot.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:10pm: Smith keeps banging on over and over about what  Trump has done to deserve his appointment. The nitwit doesn't seem to realise that he's only been in power for just over a bloody week. Give him a go! and his first act was to demand that the media tell everyone that he had the biggest inauguration attendance EVER - despite the fact it was once of the smallest.  And he went on and on and on and on about it... Then he demanded that the media confirm that ther were 3-5million illegal votes despite the evidence that there wasnt. And he went on and on and on about it. not great so far.

He's allowed to question things. None of the things you mentioned are election promises so I don't know how your post fits in with Smith's whinge.

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:15pm: That's how politics works numptoid I'm well aware of how politics work, that's why I would never say anything as absurd as 'people won't vote for you if you've done nothing for them'. Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:15pm: People vote you in on promises. hooray Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:15pm: Don't come up with the goods and you get assholed like Labor always does cause the libs never lose?  :D :D :D .... no wonder everyone thinks you're an idiot.

I think you are retarded. I'll make it easy for you. People won't vote for a party or established elite who are neglecting large parts of the American community. they'll vote for something new. What's so complicated about that?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:20pm:

What's so complicated about that?

that wasn't what you originally said dickhead. :D :D

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:20pm: What's so complicated about that? that wasn't what you originally said dickhead. :D :D

I know what I meant wog.

'people won't vote for you if you've done nothing for them'.
  Obama and the current establishment...... get it? dumbass!

They have probably doubled CNN's ratings.

Who would want to or even allow this rubbish government to appear on a commercial station if they were in touch with morality in any way.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:23pm:

I know what I meant wog.

i don't give a rats arse what you meant you dopey idiot,  i can only comment on what you said.

https://youtu.be/rAvpdLNGC5A

Trump's White House Press Secretary Destroys Liberal CNN Reporter

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 4:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:52pm: ... wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 3:43pm: So where's the stretch? he hasn't addressed anything yet ... grandiose statements that change every second day isn't really doing anything.  Oh OK.  The nonstop outrage cycle since the election must be because the left are upset that he hasn't addressed anything.  No wall, no "muslim ban", no nuffin. Checks out.

There is no wall, and no Muslim ban. There may well be Christian Iraqis and Iranians among the hundreds detained in US airports right now.

Trump has already explained how he would get Mexico to pay for his fence: "it'll take years, and it'll be complicated. There will be a lot of money moved from here to there. But in the end, they'll pay".

A bit like Trump's corporate bankruptcies, eh?