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Title: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 7:42pm

That isn't a Muslim Ban...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM

and thats the trouble with you leftwits that believe everything the leftwit media shove down your silly throats...

baaaaaaa..

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by issuevoter on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:21pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 7:42pm:

That isn't a Muslim Ban...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM

and thats the trouble with you leftwits that believe everything the leftwit media shove down your silly throats...

baaaaaaa..

The problem is that the liberal progressive humanists he's talking about, will not listen beyond the first sentence. They have the moral high ground and cannot possibly consider any criticism of their position, or any facts about Islam.

Thanks for posting, its a relief to hear some sanity.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:31pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GLYKYgSE0Y

Yes there is

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:42pm

Migrants on benefits in Switzerland 'use money to travel back to nations they're fleeing'

ERITREAN migrants claiming asylum in Switzerland are using their welfare benefits to travel back to the danger zones they have previously fled to take a holiday

Ban them for ever. Lying, dishonest, opportunistic scum.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:04am

This is an alternative fact Muslim ban

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:21am

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:04am:

This is an alternative fact Muslim ban

I can't believe that anyone would criticise the American President when he's trying to ensure the safety of his country...

even that dickwad Obama came out crying about the temporary ban..

but what of his own ban on the same countries???

what a hypocritical Turd...

he should keep his trap shut.. he had his go and failed the people..

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:43am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:21am:

I can't believe that anyone would criticise the American President when he's trying to ensure the safety of his country...

Okay, you really need to just shut the bugger up. One, this is not "Trump's country and two, you're a smacking asshole.

Take your boring, predictable fascist horseshit and pound sand. Your post are really beyond the point of tediousness. If you love a Banana Republic so much then go move to one.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:46am

maybe some of these trumpoid wankers should learn of stories such as the 15yo australian kid who had a visa and is now banned from entering the US because.... HIS PARENTS ARE IRANIAN. he's never even lived there.

blanket bans tend to catch far more fish than intended whil still missing the ones they want.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:48am

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:43am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:21am:

I can't believe that anyone would criticise the American President when he's trying to ensure the safety of his country...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D WOW what a lady ! I hope you don t breed Just imagine what the little shytes would be like

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist morons like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:18am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

Back to your goosestepping, cretin.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Fireball on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/760661/Donald-Trump-refugee-policy-Barack-Obama-Iraqi-migrant-ban

And you were living in the Republic of Nobamto before your countrymen decided they wanted their own President instead of a Islamic Jihadi sympathiser........who was very careful not to call a spade a spade........

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:29am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

No diffent than the EXTREAME LEFT thats coming out of the woodc work now with there self righteous clapp trap ;)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:31am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:29am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

No diffent than the EXTREAME LEFT thats coming out of the woodc work now with there self righteous clapp trap ;)

its not the left that is banning muslims. it is not the left claiming bogus attendance numbers or bogus voting fraud allegations. Dont hese things embarrass you since they are so obviously a lie?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:33am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:31am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:29am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

No diffent than the EXTREAME LEFT thats coming out of the woodc work now with there self righteous clapp trap ;)

its not the left that is banning muslims. it is not the left claiming bogus attendance numbers or bogus voting fraud allegations. Dont hese things embarrass you since they are so obviously a lie?

Your watching to much CNN ;)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:34am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:31am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:29am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

No diffent than the EXTREAME LEFT thats coming out of the woodc work now with there self righteous clapp trap ;)

its not the left that is banning muslims. it is not the left claiming bogus attendance numbers or bogus voting fraud allegations. Dont hese things embarrass you since they are so obviously a lie?

Your watching to much CNN ;)

Uneducated Trumptards.

"You're" and "too"

::)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Fireball on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:40am

The sum total of your English Language skills.......keep your promise and bugger off liar...

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Gordon on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:44am

Isn't it a temporary suspension on travel for people from failed states which don't have security services who can assist with background checks?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by bwood1946 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:45am

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:40am:

The sum total of your English Language skills.......keep your promise and bugger off liar...

Since it got out of the bucket at the abortion clinic it's all it's got
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:23am

Well done Mister President, now that we know the Immigration & Travel Ban will work, we all will patiently wait while some refinements are made, & the Travel Ban then works perfectly........Again, Well Done Mister President, thank you for keeping your promise.......how novel, an elected official keeping an election promise!!!

Keeping America Safe ............ America First

..

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:27am

Trumhysteria

You heard it here first

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:37am

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:44am:

Isn't it a temporary suspension on travel for people from failed states which don't have security services who can assist with background checks?

yes.

Countries that have proven to be sources of Islamic terrorists.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:49am

Oh, like for example...Saudi Arabia?

Strange. Where were they on the list?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:54am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:37am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:44am:

Isn't it a temporary suspension on travel for people from failed states which don't have security services who can assist with background checks?

yes.

Countries that have proven to be sources of Islamic terrorists.

Refresh my memory, if you will Sprinty.

Where did 15 of the 9/11 terrorists come from?

You do remember 9/11, don't you?

America's worst terrorist attack ... 3,000 dead .... ringing any bells?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:43am

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:31am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:29am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:24am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:17am:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:50am:

Moreover, imagine a world full of little fascist nice people like yourself would be like.

Go join your little buddy on a one-way trip to a Banana Republic

we dont have to imagine. We have the 1930s and WW2 to remind us what that ends up like.

Back to the kids books for you longy ;D ;D ;D ;D

so, you DONT know the history of fascism?

Oh FFS longy grow up ;D

thats the sort of shyte ya get from the old slag marla

you dont think Trumps appeal is largely to extrem-rightwingers and fools aka trump-supporters? The similarity is frightening.

No diffent than the EXTREAME LEFT thats coming out of the woodc work now with there self righteous clapp trap ;)

its not the left that is banning muslims. it is not the left claiming bogus attendance numbers or bogus voting fraud allegations. Dont hese things embarrass you since they are so obviously a lie?

Your watching to much CNN ;)

never watched it. Trumps bogus claims are however mocked pretty much EVERYWHERE. Even Fox news isnt silly enough to give it credence.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:44am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:37am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:44am:

Isn't it a temporary suspension on travel for people from failed states which don't have security services who can assist with background checks?

yes.

Countries that have proven to be sources of Islamic terrorists.

ACtually, there hasnt been a single terrorist from any of them for 20 years. Not so afghanistan, pakistan, turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Now, is he going to ban CANADIANS?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

trump_001.JPG (49 KB | 24 )

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

that looks like material that could be used for impeachment.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

that looks like material that could be used for impeachment.

one can only hope.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:27pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

that looks like material that could be used for impeachment.

one can only hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

that looks like material that could be used for impeachment.

High Crimes & Misdemeanors.......enough to convince a Majority Republican House of Representatives to refer Impeachment to a Majority U.S. Senate, who must attain a Super-Majority vote to criminally convict?

On a High Crime or Misdemeanor?

Crimes that so far you haven't even defined what you think they might be, much less described where in the legislation it might even exist.....

You're blowing smoke up your own ass if you think this will, in some uncanny way,
be the demise of President Donald Trump..... Get real..... http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/lolfun.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/taunt.gif

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Honky on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:26pm

So the people complaining about a "muslim ban" are actually upset that he didn't ban more muslims?

It's only been a week, give him time.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Rhino on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:54am:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

yeah, the only problem its totally false. All of those countries citizens in the chart have killed on US soil.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Rhino on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:10pm

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:49am:

Oh, like for example...Saudi Arabia?

Strange. Where were they on the list?

You yourself support the Saudis by buying their oil, bit hypocritical of yourself dont you think?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 12:31am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 7:42pm:

That isn't a Muslim Ban...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM

and thats the trouble with you leftwits that believe everything the leftwit media shove down your silly throats...

baaaaaaa..

Mechanic, I'd love an answer to this question, please - just once. I promise to never ask again.

How does a 2011 delay by US Immigration in processing Iraqi visas after some were suspected by Congress of making IEDs in Iraq become an Obama ban on Muslim refugees? No bans, no orders or decrees by Obama - nothing to do with Obama at all. Iraqi refugee applications were briefly put on hold while those alleged to have set bombs targeting US troops could be identified.

Please, please tell me this. For once, let's unpack the facts. I know you can do it. I believe in you.

Please explain?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 12:38am

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:10pm:

Marla wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:49am:

Oh, like for example...Saudi Arabia?

Strange. Where were they on the list?

You yourself support the Saudis by buying their oil, bit hypocritical of yourself dont you think?

Good point, Rhino. We must never question the Saudis again. We all buy their oil, no?

And let's not forget all their money invested in our financial system. We all borrow their money, yes?

We must never query the Saudis again, but I'm
curious.

Does the same apply to the Chinese? We buy their stuff. The Bangladeshis? We buy their clothes. The Iranians? Their lovely Shiraz grapes. The Turks? Their almonds and apricots. The Lebs? Their dates. The Pakis?

I'm not sure what we buy from the Pakis, but I'm sure it's something.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:53am

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:10pm:

You yourself support the Saudis by buying their oil, bit hypocritical of yourself dont you think?

Jesus bugger, that's your argument?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Marla on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 4:03am

Even rednecks are embarrassed about Trump

https://youtu.be/o22OVZOx8-s

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 4:43am

Marla wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:53am:

rhino wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:10pm:

You yourself support the Saudis by buying their oil, bit hypocritical of yourself dont you think?

Jesus bugger, that's your argument?

We're dealing with Rhino here, Marla. We grant him a handicap.

You know, like in golf.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:53am

Quote:

Leftist Media Propagandizes Trump Immigration Ban

Let the left wing Marxist media’s disinformation campaign begin. Prepare to be bombarded with the talking point that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan were left of of the 7 countries banned from entering the U.S because of supposed favoritism by President Trump.

Truth be told, President Trump is merely enforcing former President Obama’s 2015 law restricting visas from the seven countries of concern already passed by Congress two years ago. Will the conniving globalist media set the record straight?

does anyone have anything to say about this being Obama's Policy??

thats right.. this is a Leftist Policy..

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:58am

TM

Its clearly a case of neurotic people jumping on a bandwagon.

They got bored with the religion bandwagon, dabbled in the green bandwagon.

This new Anti Trump hysteria looks like it might be fun.

Its a matter of neurotic faith, so they will not look at the facts

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:00am

miketrees wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:58am:

true...

I guess it'll give us a breather from the GW fruitloops for a while..

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:53am:

Quote:

does anyone have anything to say about this being Obama's Policy??

thats right.. this is a Leftist Policy..

Didn't read mine, eh?

I understand. You've probably got too much to do to go around fact checking things.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:21pm

https://youtu.be/RXARoTgGXfQ

Nigel Farage calls for muslim ban in the UK and calls media hypocrites

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:50pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 7:21pm:

https://youtu.be/RXARoTgGXfQ

Nigel Farage calls for muslim ban in the UK and calls media hypocrites

On your knees, Sprinty.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' is that it doesn't go anywhere near what is required.

Saudi has a total ban on Jews, total ban on non-Muslims to Mecca. Other Muslim countries turn a blind eye to the murder and persecution of non-Muslims.

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:16pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' is that it doesn't go anywhere near what is required.

It protect's Mr Trump's business interests, though.

And let's face it - that's all that counts.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:27pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

true, it is a start though

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:08pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:27pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

true, it is a start though

As long as it's a start and not the end.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:50am

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

Agreed, but we will have to include Indonesia and Malaysia in those bans.
Something successive Australian governments have been reluctant to do

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Yadda on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:40am

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

Something like this should have been included as a condition of membership of the UN .

But it is too late now, to try to impose such a requirement. :'(

The Leftists in the West [who are all atheists], would never countenance such an 'imposition'.

Such an 'imposition' would offend their moslem friends.

And re the term; "religious discrimination".....

'Religious discrimination' cannot/should not be defined as criticism of a religion.

e.g.
Criticism of a religion must be permitted, when it can be seen that a 'religion' sanctions the murder or the [political] oppression, of those who do not believe, as members of that religion believe.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' is that it doesn't go anywhere near what is required.

It protect's Mr Trump's business interests, though.

And let's face it - that's all that counts.

Which business interests are those?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by red baron on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:35am

I you were bringing Muslims from certain Countries into your own Country as an act of good will. Would you - continue to do this practice if there was a definite probability that a certain percentage of those you brought in as an act of kindness, would then set about carrying out the declared Jihad against all Western Countries.

If it meant that bombs were likely to planted from one end of the U.S.A. to the other would you take that chance?

I'm freaking sure I wouldn't.

In Australia we continue to import the threats.

It s only a matter of time before the plots which thus far have been uncovered, save for Man Monis, will occur.

One day in the not too distant future some radical Muslim cell will blow up Martin Place, then every bastard will be running around finger pointing but it will be too much, too little, too late.

We should be drawing the curtains on Islamic importation like yesterday.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:40am

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:26pm

Brian, Gandalf, Karnal, John Smith, Mother, etc, etc:

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:49pm

miketrees wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:38pm

Pantha,,, you sir are an ideas man

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by gandalf on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

That a seemingly intelligent person would use such logic is simply astounding.

Do you think just maybe the people who would seek to abandon such a country and start a new life in a free and democratic country might not have the same 'uncivilised' values? Maybe??

Its literally as stupid as saying someone fleeing persecution shouldn't be allowed in on the basis they are from a country that carries out persecution. Yeah I know, idiotic right?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Panther wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

miketrees wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Excellent Panther..

you couldn't put it any more simpler for the Daft Leftists...

if they can't understand that then they may as well take themselves out of the gene pool...

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by miketrees on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:13pm

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

I do not see evidence of these people trying to improve their countries.

I see evidence of these people abandoning their countries and wreacking the same kind of havock on their adoptive countries that they were fleeing. I see no evidence of positive contribution By Islamics to any Western society.

I do not trust you, I do not believe in your honesty. I cannot tell you from the guys who drive truck into crowds. There is no way of separating you from the murderers.

What are you going to do about that?i

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Yadda on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 11:31pm

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

[@gandalf]

......I do not trust you, I do not believe in your honesty. I cannot tell you from the guys who drive truck into crowds. There is no way of separating you from the murderers.

What are you going to do about that?

QUESTION;
What are moslems who claim to follow mainstream ISLAM here in Australia, prepared to do about a person in their community like Sheik Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia ?

Sheik Ismail Alwahwah

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469402078/0#0

Quote:

This is the moslem who is living in Australia, who has stated that the example, of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks in Paris, are the way to 'cure' the 'disrespect' shown to moslems, by disbelievers.

n.b.
Ismail Alwahwah has effectively stated, publicly, HERE IN AUSTRALIA, that the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks in Paris,
.......should be regarded by the wider Australian community, as a 'normal' and 'legitimate' response from moslems in Europe, to those who offend their religion.

gandalf,

ISLAM and its cadres have been actively conducting a low level, war of attrition against Western nations, and against the citizens of Western nations for at least two decades.

QUESTION;
How long do you think it will be, until a moslem attack, somewhere in the world, will kill perhaps thousands of Westerners ?

And when that scale of atrocity occurs,          then it will be likely that here in Australia [and also in other places around the world], the government will not be able to protect 'innocent' members of the local moslem community, from the societal rage which will explode against 'the moslem' and his community.

gandalf,

Moslems are not innocent persons.

The local moslem community [within its own ranks] continually encourages festering hatred against those who are not moslems.

I would suggest, that it does not take a great mind to understand, that this moslem proclivity to 'prosecute' moslem 'religious grievances' through societal violence,       against those who are not moslems,       is eventually going to provoke an eruption, an explosion! of lawless violence between members the local moslem community, and their non-moslem hosts.

And once this lawless communal violence is unleashed, imo, it will be difficult for any governing authority to bring it an end, quickly.

Such inter-communal violence will not end well for anyone, but particularly, imo, it will not end well for 'the moslem' and his community.

You badly underestimate our resolve, to protect our freedoms, and our resolve to crush and to destroy all those who would destroy our society.

And moslems do not have the stomach for an open fight.

Not where the fight is one, against one,    ....and, it will be a 'dirty' fight, imo.

gandalf,

QUESTION;
What are you, and the members of your community doing, to try to prevent,       ....those moslem attacks, against people who are not moslems, emanating from members of the local moslem community ?

What are you doing ?

e.g.
The local moslem community needs to vociferously censure persons like Sheik Ismail Alwahwah.

gandalf,

Is the local moslem community willing to take such actions, publicly, and loudly ?

And if not, then why not ?

.

EXAMINE THE PURPOSEFUL, CRUEL AND EVIL MOSLEM HATRED AND INTENT, TOWARDS ALL NON-MOSELMS.

EXAMPLE #1,

------------ >

Quote:

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam

01/05/2007

In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".

The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.

There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims.

Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-part-of-Islam.html

EXAMINE THE PURPOSEFUL, CRUEL AND EVIL MOSLEM HATRED AND INTENT, TOWARDS ALL NON-MOSELMS.

EXAMPLE #2,

------------ >

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:12am

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

X 2

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by gandalf on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 6:12am

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

Shall we talk about just the US?

muslims living in the US:
- on average better educated than non-muslims
- on average better incomes than non-muslims
- disproportionally more doctors, lawyers, IT professionals
- do not report feeling discriminated or marginalised
- successfully assimilated by any measure

number of terrorist acts carried out on US soil by anyone from the 7 banned countries: zero, nada, zip

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Yadda on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 8:42am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 6:12am:

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

Well that claim, gandalf, is total BS.

And what is the source of [authority for] that claim gandalf ?

"Last week, President Trump signed an executive order temporarily banning citizens from seven countries from entering the U.S. and indefinitely banning Syrian refugees."

The seven countries included; Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia.

Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Jan 28, 2017 11:10 am

New York Times claims that “far-right media” is stoking “anxiety about Muslim refugees”

Here’s some real news for the fake news purveyors over at the New York Times:

the “far-right media” isn’t responsible for “anxiety about Muslim refugees.”

Who is actually responsible?

People such as Somali Muslim migrant Mohammad Barry, who in February 2016 stabbed multiple patrons at a restaurant owned by an Israeli Arab Christian;

Ahmad Khan Rahami, an Afghan Muslim migrant who in September 2016 set off bombs in New York City and New Jersey;

Arcan Cetin, a Turkish Muslim migrant who in September 2016 murdered five people in a mall in Burlington, Washington;

Dahir Adan, another Somali Muslim migrant who in October 2016 stabbed mall shoppers in St. Cloud while screaming “Allahu akbar”;

Abdul Razak Artan, yet another Somali Muslim migrant who in November 2016 injured nine people with car and knife attacks at Ohio State University.

What’s more, all of the jihadis who murdered 130 people in Paris in November 2015 had just entered Europe as refugees.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/new-york-times-claims-that-far-right-media-is-stoking-anxiety-about-muslim-refugees

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Lord Herbert on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 9:22am

The US has a massive number of people of Italian descent, and so it really is time he stopped telling them to "Phk OFF!" with one of of his favourite gestures while speaking to millions on television.

And of course, he shouldn't be invoking the name of "Allah" with this favourite ISIS gesture ...

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 6:12am:

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 9:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

I don't believe your assertion about Muslims in the US.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

Tell us about Australia. Half the population wants to ban Muslim immigration. Why is that?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:03pm

Gandalf- number of terrorist acts carried out on US soil by anyone from the 7 banned countries: zero, nada, zip

That's not true.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:12pm:

There should be a total and indefinite ban on every country that has any religious discrimination statute or evidence of such extra-judicial practice. They are either civilised or they are not.

Maybe, just maybe, they should civilise their own countries. How about that?

But that means getting rid of Islam's influence on their politics and society. So they can't civilise their own countries.

Only let in the ones who renounce Islam.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 12:37pm

Terrorist attacks in the US from Trump's banned countries-

-22 Jul 1980 Bethesda, Maryland Ali Akbar Tabataba'i, former senior officer in Iranian Shah's SAVAK, shot at home by Daoud Salahuddin, a radical black Muslim under instructions from Iran

-In March 2006, Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-American, intentionally, as he confessed, hit people with a sport utility vehicle on the campus of the University of North Carolina (UNC) at Chapel Hill to "avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide" and to "punish" the United States government. While no one was killed in the terror ramming attack, nine people were injured (none seriously).

-The 2010 Portland car bomb plot involved an incident in which Mohamed Osman Mohamud (born 1991), a Somali-American student, was arrested in an FBI sting operation on November 26, 2010, after attempting to set off what he thought was a car bomb at a Christmas tree lighting in Portland, Oregon.[1][2] He was charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.[

-February 11, 2016 Melee attack 0 (+1) 4 Ohio Columbus, Ohio 4 people were injured in a restaurant when a Somali man with a machete attacked them at random. After a car chase, the assailant was killed by police.[120]

-September 17, 2016 Stabbings 0 (+1) 10 Minnesota St. Cloud, Minnesota 2016 Minnesota mall stabbing: On September 17, 2016, a mass stabbing occurred at the Crossroads Center shopping mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Ten people were injured, and the attacker was shot dead inside the mall by an off-duty law enforcement officer.[127] ISIL claimed responsibility for the attack through its Amaq media agency, claiming Adan "was a soldier of the Islamic State".[128] Dahir A. Adan of Somalian descent.

-November 28, 2016 Vehicle attack, stabbing 0 (+1) 13 Ohio Columbus, Ohio 2016 Ohio State University attack: A car ramming attack and mass stabbing occurred at 9:52 a.m. EST at Ohio State University (OSU)'s Watts Hall in Columbus, Ohio. The attacker, Somali refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan, was shot and killed by the first responding OSU police officer, and 11 people were hospitalized for injuries. According to authorities, Artan was inspired by terrorist propaganda from the Islamic State and radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.[131]

there should be a load more countries on the list Especially Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Palestine and Afghanistan.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 1:29pm

Why would America want a group of nomads that profess.... through & within their so called religion.....that profess a fervent belief in the art of lying & deception? Knowing this, how can any American believe that there are good muslims.....because they, the muslims, say they are good & can be trusted?

The fallback will always come down to their own doctrine of Taqiyya........or lying & deception.

Explain that to us defenders of Islam.......

And, when you're done, do you expect us non-muslims to believe you?

Defend Taqiyya.....or is it indefensible? :-/

[media width=625]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaUclR7kgxU[/media]

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

[media width=625]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QZMRLzFS7E[/media]

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:14pm

Panther wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 1:29pm:

[media width=625]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDrlLrV-i1E[/media]

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:20pm

Panther wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

miketrees wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Pissweak meme analogy

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:21pm

And my yearly reminder that Orwell never said that. As you well know.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:29pm

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:30pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:29pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:

And my yearly reminder that Orwell never said that. As you well know.

PLus my yearly ignored plea to produce any evidence that he indeed said it.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:56pm

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:57pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

So?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:01pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Yep, you're a halfwit.

Essentially the lack of intellectual rigour in misattributing a quote can be applled to everything else you post.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Bout what I'd expect.

Australia, this person votes.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:13pm

;)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm

See this is why I'm not all that afraid of Islam, too many home grown dickheads

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

"....I'm......a................dickhead........."

8-)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 3:01pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Bout what I'd expect.

Australia, this person votes.

An argument for making people EARN the right to vote.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 3:03pm

Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

"....I'm......a................dickhead........."

8-)

Jesus, how clever you can use back space and ..... buttons.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm

seems trump has pissed off some big players with his ban

Donald Trump faces major tech company backlash over travel ban

Silicon Valley has always kept at arm's length from the political realms of the US, but that's all starting to change.
So what's actually happened?

More than 100 tech businesses have stated their opposition to US President Donald Trump's immigration ban.

The companies have voiced their concerns over Mr Trump's executive order on banning people from seven Muslim-majority nations.

They say it's discriminatory and would have a negative impact on business.
Why is this such a big deal?

First, there are some pretty big names on the list of 127 companies, all of which account for thousands of employees throughout the United States and beyond.

Second, it's not just a petition.

What started out as just a few comments from tech industry leaders has now gone on to become a brief in the court case which will decide the fate of Mr Trump's travel ban.

The suit originally brought by Washington and Minnesota resulted in a nationwide hold on the ban.

They have filed what's called an "amicus brief", which is a legal document submitted to a court by non-litigants with a strong interest in the subject matter.

They are used to give additional information or arguments that courts can consider when making a decision.

Part of the brief reads:

"The Order represents a significant departure from the principles of fairness and predictability that have governed the immigration system of the United States for more than 50 years — and the Order inflicts significant harm on American business, innovation, and growth as a result.
The Order makes it more difficult and expensive for US companies to recruit, hire, and retain some of the world's best employees. It disrupts ongoing business operations.
And it threatens companies' ability to attract talent, business, and investment to the United States."

The brief also highlighted their concerns about the ban being expanded and lengthened from 90 days.

It also follows a meeting between Mr Trump and Silicon Valley executives last December to smooth over frictions ahead of his inauguration.
What companies have joined the list?

The big ones.

Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, LinkedIn and Twitter are on the list.

Other companies include eBay, Etsy, Airbnb, Dropbox, Netflix, Pinterest, Reddit, Yelp, Spotify, PayPal and Mozilla.

Some have taken it one step further with Airbnb launching a Super Bowl ad campaign with the hashtag #weaccept in a direct response to the travel ban.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-07/tech-company-backlash-over-trump-travel-ban/8247118

good on em.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

he has a knack for it

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

and gaining some powerful friends.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

and gaining some powerful friends.

You and Sprint?

;D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

and gaining some powerful friends.

such as?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 6:29am

the ABC...

Leftist, Fake Reffo supporters and Fake News... ::)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:20am

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

arent these the companies that move all their jobs off shore and their call centres off shore and pay asian workers $2 an hour and pay no tax in australia.

good to see you sticking up for that business model John ;) ;)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:29am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:20am:

you struggle with English too? All I said was he's making powerful enemies, I didn't once mention their business model

aren't these all these CEO's alpha men that you love so much? :D :D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:41am

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:20am:

you struggle with English too? All I said was he's making powerful enemies, I didn't once mention their business model

aren't these all these CEO's alpha men that you love so much? :D :D

Indeed i do, and alphas butting heads at the top is exactly how it should be.
except, head alpha male Trump is looking out for the herd who made him head alpha male and they will be better cared for under his strong leadership.

beta male Obama or the various beta males in australia are incapable of taking on these alphas and so the poor little socialist geldings get screwed.
thank god all those sheep now have Trump looking out for them , hey

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:43am

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by aquascoot on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:48am

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:43am:

ah, back to being reactive and emotional...this is the feminine frame.

the inferior man (john smith or gweg) has 2 options when presented with the superior man (Donald Trump).

1 he can admit that Donald is superior and just dwell in his superior leadership and prosper.

2 he can admire what Trump has achieved and aspire to become more like trump ( he can go on a journey of personal development).

if the inferior man just gets all sad and mad and emotional and butt hurt, how does this help him?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:52am

you might want to be Donald horseboy

but I wouldn't swap a single day with him.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:02am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

and gaining some powerful friends.

Like who? The Speaker of the British Parliament has BANNED Trump from attending there. The house of commons is literally debating a motion to ban Trump from visiting the Queen. Germany can't stand him and So do most of the rest of the world. Putin loves him of course, but we all know why that is!

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:04am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:43am:

What would you know about 'superior men'. You spend all day on here. Clearly you know very little about anything.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Lord Herbert on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:12am

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

;D ;D ;D

Thanks for that.

I would like to pop this into my 'The British leadership are idiots' but this is another mob.

There just doesn't seem to be anyone in charge of these things.

The greater the idiocy we are witnessing now, the more hard-line the Rightwing party will be that eventually captures the public mood.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 11:58am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Zakly!

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by John Smith on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ban/8258430

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. :D :D

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

It is hard to contemplate as being realistic, but is it possible he genuinely thought that if he won the Presidency, he became a King, completely unaccountable, and an all powerful dictator whose personal edict is Holy Writ?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

You are probably right. Trump knows zip about government and has spent his entire life as an autocrat. I have no doubt that he went in believing his word is law and no one would stand in his way. He is probably going to spend the X months he is in office fuming and screaming that people wont do what he demands or believe what he says. He will either get impeached, be found incompetent or have a breakdown. any outcome is okay as long as he is GONE.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:16am

I say, old boy, how about the Danes? Should he ban them too?

Anyone for herring?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Either that, or he could learn.

Pretty expensive learning curve though, eh? Thousands detained, federal circuit and appeals courts tied up, and government lawyers galore - all so Trump could have a "victory" in his first month in office.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Karnal on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Richdude on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

Title: Ban Everyone, then admit only who you see fit!
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

Whatever words you use, whatever dictionaries you use, how you parse your words, etc...etc...etc

Any Sovereign & Independent Country has the perfect & legitimate right as such, to "VET" any non-citizen, or even Citizen upon entry or reentry into the said Sovereign & Independent Country, in any way they deem fit &/or necessary for National Security.

They don't need, nor should they permit, World Intrusion, Approval, or Consensus on how to construct their laws or implement their procedures especially when dealing with potential National Security issues. One's National Security is non-negotiable, nor is it legally subject to scrutiny from any other Nation or Organization outside it's own borders.

And, in the end, if they see fit to "BAN" any group or entity, they have the perfect right to do so without any external approval.....as long as they are doing so in the best security interests of their own People/Citizens as a whole, for whom they have a complete & ultimate responsibility to.

Title: Re: Ban Everyone, then admit only who you see fit!
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 1:07pm

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

Whatever words you use, whatever dictionaries you use, how you parse your words, etc...etc...etc

Any Sovereign & Independent Country has the perfect & legitimate right as such, to "VET" any non-citizen, or even Citizen upon entry or reentry into the said Sovereign & Independent Country, in any way they deem fit &/or necessary for National Security.

They don't need, nor should they permit, World Intrusion, Approval, or Consensus on how to construct their laws or implement their procedures especially when dealing with potential National Security issues. One's National Security is not negotiable, nor subject to legal scrutiny from any other Nation or Organization outside it's own borders.

And, in the end, if they see fit to "BAN" any group or entity, they have the perfect right to do so without approval.....providing they are doing so in the best security interests of their own people/citizens as a whole, for whom they have an ultimate responsibility to.

The courts disagree with you 3-0.

Title: Re: Ban Everyone, then admit only who you see fit!
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 1:15pm

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

Your ignorance on law is astonishing. You are Trump share a similar view it seems.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm

Why can't the US temporarily bar entry to citizens of certain countries? They want to figure out how to tell the difference between the 'vast majority of peaceful' Muslims and the 'tiny minority'.
Why can't why do that? Since when do foreigners have the right to a US (or Australian) visa?

If anything, more countries should be barred until the benign can be reliably distinguished from the malign.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:02pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjlwlmlQu7o&index=4&list=PLVL8S3lUHf0TRs7E1xzv187cZQlbPAYGk

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjlwlmlQu7o&index=4&list=PLVL8S3lUHf0TRs7E1xzv187cZQlbPAYGk

That was funny. I do however wish Trump WOULD call Obama. He might get a few good ideas... maybe.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Probably can.....but not by the personal edict of a President of a democratic country.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:52pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Probably can.....but not by the personal edict of a President of a democratic country.

A Sovereign & Independent Nation has the absolute & legitimate right to accept or reject any & all entrants, regardless of where they come from, or the reasons for wanting entry......No individual or group has any right of entry into any Sovereign Nation.............period!

The word SOVEREIGN says it all.................

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:05pm

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Probably can.....but not by the personal edict of a President of a democratic country.

Yes it does. I did also observe how you emphasised the word, Sovereign. That is not Trump.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by longweekend58 on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:36pm

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Probably can.....but not by the personal edict of a President of a democratic country.

Trump is NOT sovereign, retard.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 6:36pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Probably can.....but not by the personal edict of a President of a democratic country.

Trump is NOT sovereign, retard.

It, much to your dismay I'm sure, it has nothing to do with Trump....

Damn some of you leftists got it bad....real bad.....got Trump in the head 24/7.....your obsessed. ;D ::) ::)

BTW.....thanks for calling me a RETARD....it shows your rapier wit & dynamic grip on the subject matter....very intelligent reply. ;D ;D

The United States of America, just like Australia, are both SOVEREIGN Nations....the Nations are Sovereign....Independent from outside concerns, are completely autonomous, & absolute in their authority over their own destinies.

Got it??? ::)

And you thought I meant Trump! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jump back into your rabbit hole, & await more directives from the leftist masters your owned by.....get along now....GO!

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:00pm

Well, the Thread Title is ~ The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:01pm

....and if you were not talking about Trump, do you really reckon you need to teach Grandma how to suck 'Sovereign Nation' eggs?

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:11pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

....and if you were not talking about Trump, do you really reckon you need to teach Grandma how to suck 'Sovereign Nation' eggs?

Sorry, if you misinterpreted my response to the other delusional fellow lostweekend58, as a negative reply to you....not so....the thread is about the supposed "Muslim Ban"....which doesn't actually exist, but it is more aptly a "Terrorist Ban".

The left errantly calls it a "Muslim Ban" in order to muster some self-serving rallying cry to the ignorant oppressed, so to gather supporters that think there is some religious persecution going on....which is also just a red herring. Yes, Trump signed the order, but his doing so is not in question.

The order itself, & a Nations Right to make such an order, is in question.

Now, clue me in.....what is it about your dear grandmother that you need help with, or do you have that covered by now? ;)

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:17pm

That was not really my point which is that Trump is not the Sovereign Nation ~ United States of America, much as it is obvious, he wishes he was. He is learning that he is not King and that he cannot just issue edicts as President and not have them challenged at Law.

It is a (targetted to some Sovereign Nations) Muslim ban. To call it a terrorist ban is just rubbish. What better proof do you need other than that Saudi Arabia (9/11) is not on the ban list.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Panther on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:29pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

That was not really my point which is that Trump is not the Sovereign Nation ~ United States of America, much as it is obvious, he wishes he was. He is learning that he is not King and that he cannot just issue edicts as President and not have them challenged at Law.

It is a (targetted) Muslim ban. To call it a terrorist ban is just rubbish. What better proof do you need other than that Saudi Arabia (9/11) is not on the ban list.

He will present his next Presidential Order, a follow up & tweak to this one, which is his right as head of the Administration, to direct the department of Immigration how it needs to proceed in protecting Americans from potential Terrorist threats.

Title: Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Post by Aussie on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:35pm

Panther wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

That was not really my point which is that Trump is not the Sovereign Nation ~ United States of America, much as it is obvious, he wishes he was. He is learning that he is not King and that he cannot just issue edicts as President and not have them challenged at Law.

It is a (targetted) Muslim ban. To call it a terrorist ban is just rubbish. What better proof do you need other than that Saudi Arabia (9/11) is not on the ban list.

Yes, I've seen the same schmedia reports you have seen. If he and his Lawyers get it wrong yet again with discriminatory grey areas, they'll be nailed by the Judiciary again.

If he wants a Law about this which sticks, get it through the USA 'Parliament.'