Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them.

Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

gandalf,

Have you been watching TV news broadcasts over the last few days, that have covered Trumps public pronouncements ?

That is not what lefist leaning governments and lefist leaning government leaders around the world, have been saying in the last week!



Google;
EU member states critical of trump executive orders

trump executive orders, EU critics

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch?

Funny how leftists never said anything about Obama and Hillary stuffing up Syria,Libya,Tunisia along with supporting the muslim brothelhood in Egypt and helping the Saudis bomb Yemen.

It's well known the Saudis were giving Hillary money would you prefer she was elected?

Nice tweet from Trump on the Saudi Prince Alwaleed Talal.  ::)
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35083150

Now don't be too hard on Gandalf.
He's just trying to find a wedge here that will allow him to find fault with Trump's move to protect America while not having to recognise that Muslim immigration per se is the threat.

The Austrian Academy of Science has produced research showing that fully 40% of the Muslim invaders place the edicts & dictates of Islam above the law of the state that has given them sanctuary.

:RT

gandalf,

You wanna see hypocrisy ???

Just look at your own house!




Iran's citizens [among others] have been placed on the Presidential travel ban to US .

And WOW!!!    ......listen to the Iranian regime now squealing!!,          about how this is so, so unfair to Iranian citizens.


And these are the very same Iranian citizens, and the very same Iranian regime, who broadcast far and wide to the world,              ......that the USA is 'the Great SATAN'  - and they tell teh world, that the Iranian ISLAMIC Republic is going to lead the fight, to destroy the USA !!!



And now, listen to the mullahs squeal coz, Donald has banned travel to the USA, for Iranian citizens !!!!

LOL

LOL

LOL




Google;
america, great satan, iran



Quote:

The Great Satan (Persian: شيطان بزرگ‎‎; Shaytân-e Bozorg) is a derogatory epithet for the United States of America in some Iranian foreign policy statements. ... The speech occurred one day after the onset of the Iran hostage crisis.

Great Satan - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Satan

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:38am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch? Funny how leftists never said anything about Obama and Hillary stuffing up Syria,Libya,Tunisia along with supporting the muslim brothelhood in Egypt and helping the Saudis bomb Yemen. It's well known the Saudis were giving Hillary money would you prefer she was elected? Nice tweet from Trump on the Saudi Prince Alwaleed Talal.  ::) bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35083150

How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch?


You do get that it isn't only refugees who are banned in fact I think refugees may even be the exception.

And you do get, do you, that it is ALL Muslims that are potentially a threat down the road.

There are plenty of refugees to accommodate,, not taking on a known risk is a good idea.

let other countries ,,, say Muslim majority countries take the Moslems.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:59am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:38am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch? Funny how leftists never said anything about Obama and Hillary stuffing up Syria,Libya,Tunisia along with supporting the muslim brothelhood in Egypt and helping the Saudis bomb Yemen. It's well known the Saudis were giving Hillary money would you prefer she was elected? Nice tweet from Trump on the Saudi Prince Alwaleed Talal.  ::) bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35083150 How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch? You do get that it isn't only refugees who are banned in fact I think refugees may even be the exception.

I know leftards suffer from a type of mental retardation so check out what real news says instead of fake news on this issue.
aljazeera.com/news/2017/01/world-leaders-condemn-donald-trump-muslim-ban-170128134635041.html

Of course no leftards say anything about Obama banning people from entering the USA if they had visited these countries yet these leftist hypocrites squeal like stuck pigs when Trump does the same thing.

Of course ex muslims are the best muslims yet dopey dim witted leftards prefer to stick up for the bearded nutjobs who preach death for those who leave Islam and want to Islamise non muslim countries, will leftards ever support those smart enough to realise Islam is bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit?
twitter.com/ExMuslim_Tv

Lefties seem to have self esteem problems, always having attacks of cultural cringe.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:38am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch?

Do you have to work at being this stupid?

The ban includes migrants and visitors (from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen).

I suggest you read the news before you comment any further.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:38am:

Funny how leftists never said anything about Obama and Hillary stuffing up Syria,Libya,Tunisia along with supporting the muslim brothelhood in Egypt and helping the Saudis bomb Yemen.

I've been saying it plenty.

And if Trump actually had a spine and moved to reverse some of the hypocritical support for SA like he promised before the election - then I might have more respect for him.

Baron, tell me you don't have a problem with Trump leaving Saudi Arabia off the ban list.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

Nailed it!

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:53am:

Now don't be too hard on Gandalf. He's just trying to find a wedge here that will allow him to find fault with Trump's move to protect America while not having to recognise that Muslim immigration per se is the threat. The Austrian Academy of Science has produced research showing that fully 40% of the Muslim invaders place the edicts & dictates of Islam above the law of the state that has given them sanctuary. :RT

If a wedge is required for you to understand the hypocricy of Trump, then so be it.

Tell me Boges, do you think the AAS research you cite includes all muslim "invaders" except for the ones from Saudi Arabia? Does it bother you at all that Trump is welcoming with open arms hideous muslim invaders who reside in the very homeland of terrorism and who ban their women from driving - along with just about everything else?

Looks like Turnbullshit will not be able to foist its 1800 Manus Island guests on to America now that President Trump has commenced with his plans to protect US borders, maybe he can do a swap.......10 of theirs for one of ours.......

Well done America.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:35am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:53am: Now don't be too hard on Gandalf. He's just trying to find a wedge here that will allow him to find fault with Trump's move to protect America while not having to recognise that Muslim immigration per se is the threat. The Austrian Academy of Science has produced research showing that fully 40% of the Muslim invaders place the edicts & dictates of Islam above the law of the state that has given them sanctuary. :RT If a wedge is required for you to understand the hypocricy of Trump, then so be it. Tell me Boges, do you think the AAS research you cite includes all muslim "invaders" except for the ones from Saudi Arabia? Does it bother you at all that Trump is welcoming with open arms hideous muslim invaders who reside in the very homeland of terrorism and who ban their women from driving - along with just about everything else?

Oh man, Boges is on the ropes    ;D


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"But, but, but, ... "

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:03am:

And you do get, do you, that it is ALL Muslims that are potentially a threat down the road.

You are obviously wrong - over 95% of Muslims are obviously no threat.

The biggest threat by far on any road from Muslims will be the ones who are bad drivers.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

So the only obvious exclusions is for potentially most dangerous Muslims ?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. So the only obvious exclusions is for potentially most dangerous Muslims ?

Exactly.

And just look at the Trump fan-boys performing their incredible mental gymnastics to apologise for him.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:29am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:38am: Funny how leftists never said anything about Obama and Hillary stuffing up Syria,Libya,Tunisia along with supporting the muslim brothelhood in Egypt and helping the Saudis bomb Yemen. I've been saying it plenty. And if Trump actually had a spine and moved to reverse some of the hypocritical support for SA like he promised before the election - then I might have more respect for him. Baron, tell me you don't have a problem with Trump leaving Saudi Arabia off the ban list.

When Obama banned people who had been to Iraq-Iran-Syria-Sudan from entering the USA was that a muslim ban, why were the leftards silent on Obama's muslim ban with the Terrorist Prevention Act 2015?
sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you

Trump has only been in power for a week it's probably difficult for him to remove the previous governments support for the Saudis, do you think he is going to help the Saudis bomb Yemen like the Democrats fully supported, is he going to arm the cut your heart out and eat it type of rebels in Syria the Democrats armed to overthrow Assad or will he side with Putin in wiping out all jihadis?

I would have added a few more like Pakistan to the list yet he probably has to drain the swamp of democRats before he can do that.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:21am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:38am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch? I have to work at being this stupid

You made a bet with Bias that you would leave this forum if Trump won the election, when are you going to be a man and honour your bet and piss off from this forum.

Stop telling lies be a man honour your bet and piss off from this forum

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA.

People from failed states are a total mystery.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 10:52am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. So the only obvious exclusions is for potentially most dangerous Muslims ? Exactly. And just look at the Trump fan-boys performing their incredible mental gymnastics to apologise for him.

When will it stop?

Alleged child rape - they apologise.

Sexual assault of women - they apologise.

Lies - they apologise.

Saudi terrorists - they apologise.

What sort of "people" are these?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:32am:

What sort of "people" are these?

You mean the women abusers, the child abusers, the gay murderers....... they would be MUSLIMS haemorrhoid.......and the sheep are none too happy either.......

You know, the people you are an apologist for......

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:32am: What sort of "people" are these? You mean .....

... the "people" who support Trump.

Why do they give him a free pass on his lies, self-confessed sexual abuse, support for Saudi terrorists, and allegations of child rape?

Hmm?

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA. People from failed states are a total mystery.

Bingo.

Correct answer.

A great move by Trump, this puts the Muslim invasion in check, Pauline now needs to strike while the iron is hot.

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:09am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA. People from failed states are a total mystery. Bingo. Correct answer.

yes, I saw how effective they were against the perpetrators of 9/11  ;D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 10:21am: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:38am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. How many refugees does the USA take from Saudi Arabia is it zero zip zilch? I have to work at being this stupid You made a bet with Bias that you would leave this forum if Trump won the election, when are you going to be a man and honour your bet and piss off from this forum. Stop telling lies be a man honour your bet and piss off from this forum

Changing someone words is pretty poor form no matter how large you make you text.

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 10:42am:

Looks like Turnbullshit will not be able to foist its 1800 Manus Island guests on to America now that President Trump has commenced with his plans to protect US borders, maybe he can do a swap.......10 of theirs for one of ours....... Well done America.

Close but no cigar

nah, it's not even close

Donald Trump and Malcolm Turnbull speak on phone, US deal to go ahead

The ABC understands US President Donald Trump has confirmed his administration will continue to honour the refugee resettlement deal Australia made with the Obama administration.

The confirmation came in a phone call between President Trump and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull this morning.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/turnbull-and-trump-talk-about-refugee-resettlement-deal/8220824

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:09am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA. People from failed states are a total mystery. Bingo. Correct answer. yes, I saw how effective they were against the perpetrators of 9/11  ;D ;D

Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened.

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened.

so nothing to do with saudi intelligence then!

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:09am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA. People from failed states are a total mystery. Bingo. Correct answer.

Same goes for some of the other countries. At least they have functioning security services that can share info.

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm: Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened. so nothing to do with saudi intelligence then!

The inter-agency intel sharing protocols have been changed since 9/11, John.

Think hard, John. If US customs want to run a check on someone from Pakistan, KSA is can be easily done.

The counties listed in the ban, not so easily.

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:14pm:

KSA is can be easily done.

wishful thinking there gordy. Depends on who the check is on ...  a number of the extended royal family support the extremists ................  it all depends on who's checking on whom. .

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:09am: polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:19am: Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them. Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff. In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA. People from failed states are a total mystery. Bingo. Correct answer. yes, I saw how effective they were against the perpetrators of 9/11  ;D ;D

Are you trying to suggest that this is only because of and in response to just 9/11?

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Are you trying to suggest that this is only because of and in response to just 9/11?

how the fkk did you get that from my comment?

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:14pm: KSA is can be easily done. wishful thinking there gordy. Depends on who the check is on ...  a number of the extended royal family support the extremists ................  it all depends on who's checking on whom. .

Don't be so sure, there are 1000s of princes. One even dropped something important in chop chop square last year.