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Message started by The Mechanic on Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:04pm

Title: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:04pm

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TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
It’s time to restore the civil rights of Americans, he said


President Trump said he will protect the civil rights of American citizens by cracking down on sanctuary cities and deporting criminal illegals.

“It’s time to restore the civil rights of Americans to protect their jobs, their hopes and their dreams for a much better future,” the president stated at the Joint Republican Issues Conference in Philadelphia, Penn., on Thursday.

“Congress passed these [immigration] laws to serve our citizens and it’s about time those laws were properly enforced – they’re not enforced.”

“The hour of justice for the American worker has arrived.”

Border security is a serious, serious national security issue and problem, he added.

“A lack of security poses a substantial threat to the sovereignty and safety of the United States of America and its citizens,” the president stated.

President Trump also outlined some of the moves he’s already made this week.

“We’ve put in place the first steps of our immigration plan by ordering the immediate construction of our border wall, putting an end to catch and release, and expediting the removal of criminal aliens…

this is so important to me: from day one I’ve said it, and I mean the immediate removal of criminal aliens – they’re going to be gone, fast,” the president said.

“Also at long last, cracking down on sanctuary cities.”


BOOM!!!

Yes!!!

IT IS as simple as that...

putting the countries citizens first...

yes... its that simple..

so when you hear a politician saying.."awww thats a simplistic view on things and it just doesn't happen like that" .

you know the rsole is lying through his teeth...  >:(

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Agnes on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D

Good to see you laying them out in here John  :D :D

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:28pm

Agnes wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D

Good to see you laying them out in here John  :D :D



just how stupid does one have to be to be a trump supporter? he lies every time he opens his mouth and they still think he's the messiah. People like Mechanic must have sh1t for brains, especially since many of his policies doctrines will adversely affect Australia.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Agnes on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:40pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D

Good to see you laying them out in here John  :D :D



just how stupid does one have to be to be a trump supporter? he lies every time he opens his mouth and they still think he's the messiah. People like Mechanic must have sh1t for brains, especially since many of his policies doctrines will adversely affect Australia.



Smithy- this. ( and yes I know   :-[ )

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Bias_2012 on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:43pm
Trump is fair dinkum, I'll give him that, means what his says and getting the job done, fulfilling his promises without batting an eyelid. Shaping up to be the best President since Jackson

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Agnes on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:46pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
Trump is fair dinkum, I'll give him that, means what his says and getting the job done, fulfilling his promises without batting an eyelid. Shaping up to be the best President since Jackson

   ;D ;D ;D ;D

even if he doesnt know what the hell he is doing.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:40am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
Trump is fair dinkum, I'll give him that, means what his says and getting the job done, fulfilling his promises without batting an eyelid. Shaping up to be the best President since Jackson


he's smashing it out of the park..

you have to wonder how a retarded a leftist brain works when all they want to see is their country ruined by illegals and in debt that 3 generations can't pay off

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:48am

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D


Or Scientists or the media or disagree with him.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:51am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS

unless they're protesting his presidency, right?  :D :D :D


Or Scientists or the media or disagree with him.


what bits do you exactly disagree with and agree with??

you left wits seem to have trouble expressing yourselves,...

you just keep coming in with one liners of hate  and deflection...

you don't seem to have an argument other that you don't like Trump..

most likely because he is successful and that you are losers on welfare who have never worked a day in your pathetic lives...  ::)

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:51am
Amazing how conservatives always blame other nationalities for all of their problems.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by issuevoter on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:06am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
Trump is fair dinkum, I'll give him that, means what his says and getting the job done, fulfilling his promises without batting an eyelid. Shaping up to be the best President since Jackson


What is it about Jackson's presidency that you rate so highly?

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:09am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
Trump is fair dinkum, I'll give him that, means what his says and getting the job done, fulfilling his promises without batting an eyelid. Shaping up to be the best President since Jackson


He is yet to do anything that is worth doing. To this point he has been a waste of oxygen and plenty of it.

Bringing back the 1950's is not an indication of achievement, he is causing damage with no improvement.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:42am
Arent CIVIL rights supposed to be FOR ALL?

What was the civil rights movement in the 60s all about??

Some of you routinely miss the point while demonstrating your basic racism, sexism and general ignorance.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:45am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:51am:
you left wits seem to have trouble expressing yourselves,...

you just keep coming in with one liners of hate  and deflection...



like these


President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
BOOM!!!

Yes!!!

IT IS as simple as that...



all whilst shoving your head up your arse and ignoring all the arguments against it :D :D :D

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:48am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:42am:
Arent CIVIL rights supposed to be FOR ALL?

What was the civil rights movement in the 60s all about??

Some of you routinely miss the point while demonstrating your basic racism, sexism and general ignorance.



We are a country that does not believe in codified civil rights for anyone; so I don't see how we get to have any say about a country that does.

Anything we have to say is invalid.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Black Orchid on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Panther on Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:44pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)





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Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)


it is 100% refreshing.

A leader who puts his own countries citizens above illegals

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Panther on Jan 28th, 2017 at 2:12pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)


it is 100% refreshing.

A leader who puts his own countries citizens above illegals


Yes, very refreshing.....Not only a leader who puts his own country's citizens above illegals, but is taking specific steps about keeping them out, & not allowing them to come back unless they get to the back of the queue, & do it 100% legally!

Not only illegals, no it doesn't stop there, he is also taking specific steps about keeping Islamic Terrorists out too!

Protecting his people......that's partly why they hired him.......President Donald John Trump, America's Employee of the Month.

And he'll be working on the Employee of the Decade too!
  ;)

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:48am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:42am:
Arent CIVIL rights supposed to be FOR ALL?

What was the civil rights movement in the 60s all about??

Some of you routinely miss the point while demonstrating your basic racism, sexism and general ignorance.



We are a country that does not believe in codified civil rights for anyone; so I don't see how we get to have any say about a country that does.

Anything we have to say is invalid.


Thats not much of an argument. Not having a codified list of civil rights does not mean they do not exist as out near 200 years of existence proves.

And in neither case, does that prohibit or devalue our opinion on americans or their idiot President defining one group of citizens as less deserving of civil rights.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)


Thats not what he is doing at all. He is putting some PEOPLE ahead of others - people that already live there.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by The Mechanic on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    ::)


Thats not what he is doing at all. He is putting some PEOPLE ahead of others - people that already live there.


which people?

the people who entered illegally under Obama??  ::)

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Panther on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm
What are Civil Rights?




Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.



Quote:
Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




Source:      Merriam Websters Dictionary      
Quote:
Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614


Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.

Countries that do not have their Citizen's Rights codified in their written law, & stated as rights, bestow, or grant rights to their citizens, but they are not actually Rights.....they are granted privileges, removable at will, by the government that granted or bestowed them.  These citizens, therefore, have no actual enforceable Civil Rights.










Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:53pm

Panther wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
What are Civil Rights?




Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.


[quote]Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




Source:      Merriam Websters Dictionary      
Quote:
Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614


Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.



[/quote]


The worst thing of all is that you actually believe it. You are absolutely and unashamedly racist. You hold different rights and different vales for different ethnic groups. You are inherently and utterly racist. Worse, tstil, you are proud of that fact.

Title: Re: TRUMP: CIVIL RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS BEFORE ILLEGALS
Post by Panther on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:53pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
What are Civil Rights?




Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.


[quote]Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




Source:      Merriam Websters Dictionary      [quote]Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614


Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.



[/quote]


The worst thing of all is that you actually believe it. You are absolutely and unashamedly racist. You hold different rights and different vales for different ethnic groups. You are inherently and utterly racist. Worse, tstil, you are proud of that fact.[/quote]

I accept your white flag.....because rather than meaningfully & intellectually discussing the issues, you resort to name calling, a sure sign of your failure, especially when you're losing....losing bad....In poker it's called your "tell".

The one thing that's obvious about Left Wing Progressives like yourself, verifiable facts, like those I quote,  to your lot is like what holy water is to vampires! 

You think that I personally care what name you call me? Absolutely not.....You wish to call me a Racist, or a Bigot, or a homophobe, or a Xenophobe, or a Islamophobe, made up names....etc....etc.... feel free.....they've been bandied about so often by the extreme Left, that their original meanings have become totally unimportant, & have been rendered ineffectual.

The Trump victory has signaled to the World that Political Correctness is no more.....Political Correctness is dead, & calling people names no longer holds the power to claim victory, or a sense of personal moral superiority, in discussion as it once might have.

Well, NO Longer!

Oh, & BTW.....JFYI.....I have never, nor will I ever, do guilt.... So ......


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