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Title: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by mothra on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:08pm
Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Surrounded By Men
It seems like women might be interested in this policy too. WASHINGTON ― On Monday, surrounded by other white men, President Donald Trump signed an anti-abortion executive order that has far-reaching consequences for women’s reproductive health access worldwide. Trump reinstated the Mexico City policy, also known as the global gag rule, which was first put in place by President Ronald Reagan in 1984. It prohibits giving U.S. funding to international nongovernmental organizations that offer or advise on a wide range of family planning and reproductive health options if they include abortion ― even if U.S. dollars are not specifically used for abortion-related services. The United States spends about $600 million a year on international assistance for family planning and reproductive health programs, making it possible for 27 million women and couples to access contraceptive services and supplies. None of that money is spent on performing abortions. The Helms amendment has prevented U.S. tax dollars from funding overseas abortions since 1973. Proponents of the global gag rule believe the policy is nevertheless still necessary, arguing that Helms isn’t strong enough by itself. The executive order is one of the first Trump has signed since taking office. Sitting in the Oval Office Monday, he also signed ones freezing federal hiring and withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. A pan of the people standing by his side showed that there were few, if any, women present. Trump’s executive order has severe implications and could be deadly for women and girls in developing countries and conflict zones, who often resort to dangerous methods of ending their pregnancies when they lack access to safe abortion. The World Health Organization estimates that more than 21 million women a year have unsafe abortions in developing countries, accounting for about 13 percent of all maternal deaths. The policy is rescinded and reinstated based on which party is in power. President Bill Clinton did away with it, President George W. Bush put it back and then President Barack Obama rescinded it again when he took office. Trump’s Cabinet is more white and more male than any president’s first Cabinet since Reagan. http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910 |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by mothra on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:12pm
The Netherlands 'counters' Trump with international abortion fund
The Dutch government is leading the charge to counter the impact of America's plan to halt foreign aid to any organisations which support abortion in any way. The Dutch Government is planning to launch an international fund to finance access to birth control and abortion in developing countries, in order to fill the gap left after the Trump administration announced it would no longer fund any overseas aid organisations which discussed abortion. “Banning abortions does not result in fewer abortions,” Dutch Trade and Development Minister Lilianne Ploumen said in a statement. “It leads to more irresponsible practices in back rooms and more maternal deaths.” The World Health Organisation estimates that 22 million women experience unsafe abortions every year, the vast majority of whom are in developing countries. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/25/netherlands-counters-trump-international-abortion-fund |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Agnes on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:52pm
The arrogance of the Trump administration- men who want to control women's fertility- wrong on so many level's. Men want to control what they don't understand and so it goes- regardless of who it hurts.
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:42pm Agnes wrote on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:52pm:
Only men have moral issues :o |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Emma on Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:45pm Yep, he is a skunk of the first water... Hard to believe he is the President really. What an outrage that election was. Traitor agitator and collaborator, and yet he won. I am afraid it clearly shows us how totally fkdp the society is. It shows the awesome power of the media and GOOD advertising strategies. It also shows us how millions of people can be moved around like pawns by think tanks and agencies, dedicated to promotion of virtually anyone or anything. How mass intentional manipulation can sway, by fair means and foul, the opinion of the average citizen. It remains for the people of the US to impeach this narcissist , and/or, have the Congress of the people refuse to ratify his 'decrees'. :( :( :( :( |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:10am Emma wrote on Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:45pm:
uM, what the bugger are you talking about? |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:38am If only Mary Anne MacLeod had had an abortion. |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Emma on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:47am TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Are you actually saying you don't understand.?? |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:21am Emma wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 1:47am:
Given the media coverage over the last few years: YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING ,.. "WHAT THE BUGGER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" Join issues all you want ::) |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Emma on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:54am
Oh I do.
Clearly you have said ... you do not understand. I am saying YOU don't have a clue about what has happened. Or HOW it has occurred. And you agree. :( You are bought and paid for. You believe.... but you don't understand what or why you do so. Like so many others it would seem. Sad times ahead for you kids. |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by The Mechanic on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:15am
the American Forum is further down the board dickhead...
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by John Smith on Jan 26th, 2017 at 7:38am
Netherlands Government launches global abortion fund to counter Trump cuts
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-26/netherlands-government-launches-global-abortion-fund/8213744 |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Gnads on Jan 26th, 2017 at 9:14am
Now he is getting ridiculous.
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by mothra on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:14am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:15am:
This is a global issue, you absolute muppet, |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Fireball on Jan 26th, 2017 at 10:58am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:38am:
Not to mention the midwife smacking your mother in the chops for giving birth to an arsehole like you haemorrhoid. I'd say flushing you at birth would have been a far better proposition to benefit mankind..... |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Agnes on Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:45pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:15am:
And you are here to deliver yet more personal abuse. |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Vic on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:09pm
Trump reinstated the Mexico City policy, also known as the global gag rule, which was first put in place by President Ronald Reagan in 1984. It prohibits giving U.S. funding to international nongovernmental organizations that offer or advise on a wide range of family planning and reproductive health options if they include abortion ― even if U.S. dollars are not specifically used for abortion-related services.
So,what affect does this actually have on abortion legislation/law/policy in America itself.? Correct me if I am wrong but the nub issue appears to be Trump stating to overseas Organisations that "I will not give you any funding for family planning and associated issues if your advice includes abortions". Don't we want the best advice on how to prevent conception before abortion is an option? Do we want to include abortion as a valid method of preventing conception and family planning? I would imagine that most of this funding is to 2nd and 3rd world countries where the current conception methods are crude (withdrawal before ejaculation) and possibly have a high failure rate - if it can bring alternate methods of conception for both men and women, surely that must be a winner? |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:06am Vic wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
You are talking common sense. But this is a Trump administration, so no common sense applies. |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by issuevoter on Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:20am Agnes wrote on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:52pm:
There is truth in what you wrote here. However, when considering the national issue of abortion (not contraception) and how large a population oppose abortion, including women, it is reasonable to oppose funding out of general revenue. |
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Post by Raven on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:54pm "It's now illegal to ejaculate unless it's for reproduction" |
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