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Message started by bogarde73 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am

Title: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am
The WH website has a new page entitled Standing Up for our Law Enforcement Community.

Way to go!

We have watched in dismay while disrespect for the police has become an art form not just in the US but particularly there with the degeneration of society.

Now here's a guy who is setting about immediately to reverse that.

Well done Mr Trump!

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:13am
https://www.whitehouse.gov/law-enforcement-community


Standing Up For Our Law Enforcement Community

One of the fundamental rights of every American is to live in a safe community. A Trump Administration will empower our law enforcement officers to do their jobs and keep our streets free of crime and violence. The Trump Administration will be a law and order administration. President Trump will honor our men and women in uniform and will support their mission of protecting the public. The dangerous anti-police atmosphere in America is wrong. The Trump Administration will end it.

The Trump Administration is committed to reducing violent crime. In 2015, homicides increased by 17% in America’s fifty largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years. In our nation’s capital, killings have risen by 50 percent. There were thousands of shootings in Chicago last year alone.

Our country needs more law enforcement, more community engagement, and more effective policing.

Our job is not to make life more comfortable for the rioter, the looter, or the violent disrupter. Our job is to make life more comfortable for parents who want their kids to be able to walk the streets safely. Or the senior citizen waiting for a bus. Or the young child walking home from school.

Supporting law enforcement means supporting our citizens’ ability to protect themselves. We will uphold Americans’ Second Amendment rights at every level of our judicial system.

President Trump is committed to building a border wall to stop illegal immigration, to stop the gangs and the violence, and to stop the drugs from pouring into our communities. He is dedicated to enforcing our border laws, ending sanctuary cities, and stemming the tide of lawlessness associated with illegal immigration.

Supporting law enforcement also means deporting illegal aliens with violent criminal records who have remained within our borders.

It is the first duty of government to keep the innocent safe, and President Donald Trump will fight for the safety of every American, and especially those Americans who have not known safe neighborhoods for a very long time.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by cods on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:31am
so shooting unarmed people or pulverising them in to the ground...is going to be the new norm.....

does that really engineer respect boges?..

you earn respect....you cant order it!

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 7:34am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am:
The WH website has a new page entitled Standing Up for our Law Enforcement Community.

Way to go!

We have watched in dismay while disrespect for the police has become an art form not just in the US but particularly there with the degeneration of society.

Now here's a guy who is setting about immediately to reverse that.

Well done Mr Trump!



Is there anything that Trump will ever do that makes sense? Does he really think that 'empowering' police is the current problem with law enforcement?

The man is an ignorant clown.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 7:38am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am:
The WH website has a new page entitled Standing Up for our Law Enforcement Community.

Way to go!

We have watched in dismay while disrespect for the police has become an art form not just in the US but particularly there with the degeneration of society.

Now here's a guy who is setting about immediately to reverse that.

Well done Mr Trump!



X 2

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 8:42am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 7:34am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am:
The WH website has a new page entitled Standing Up for our Law Enforcement Community.

Way to go!

We have watched in dismay while disrespect for the police has become an art form not just in the US but particularly there with the degeneration of society.

Now here's a guy who is setting about immediately to reverse that.

Well done Mr Trump!



Is there anything that Trump will ever do that makes sense? Does he really think that 'empowering' police is the current problem with law enforcement?

The man is an ignorant clown.





The problem with this argument has been from the start it's seen to be an either/or argument.

You can be for the police but actually against police brutality.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:38am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 8:42am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 7:34am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:59am:
The WH website has a new page entitled Standing Up for our Law Enforcement Community.

Way to go!

We have watched in dismay while disrespect for the police has become an art form not just in the US but particularly there with the degeneration of society.

Now here's a guy who is setting about immediately to reverse that.

Well done Mr Trump!



Is there anything that Trump will ever do that makes sense? Does he really think that 'empowering' police is the current problem with law enforcement?

The man is an ignorant clown.





The problem with this argument has been from the start it's seen to be an either/or argument.

You can be for the police but actually against police brutality.


True, but Trump is all for the former and a bit ho-hum on the latter.  On such a super-sensitive and emotive topic, the message needs to be clever and calibrated, but as usual, it is just bluster.



Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"



the 'suspects' should treat cops with respect.

I always have and I have never had any problems with any police.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:11pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"



the 'suspects' should treat cops with respect.

I always have and I have never had any problems with any police.


You dont live in America which is where we are talking about. American cops shoot crims and others every day of the week. Here in Oz, that is a rarity.

I dont have any problems with OZ cops either, but in USA I would assume that they could and do shoot innocent people or even people they THINK are guilty and act accordingly.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"



the 'suspects' should treat cops with respect.

I always have and I have never had any problems with any police.


You dont live in America which is where we are talking about. American cops shoot crims and others every day of the week. Here in Oz, that is a rarity.

I dont have any problems with OZ cops either, but in USA I would assume that they could and do shoot innocent people or even people they THINK are guilty and act accordingly.




Even happened in the UK where the UK police tasered the racial harmony advisement officer.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"



the 'suspects' should treat cops with respect.

I always have and I have never had any problems with any police.


You dont live in America which is where we are talking about. American cops shoot crims and others every day of the week. Here in Oz, that is a rarity.

I dont have any problems with OZ cops either, but in USA I would assume that they could and do shoot innocent people or even people they THINK are guilty and act accordingly.




Like the PhD student the other week they accused of stealing his own car.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:27pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:46am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:22am:
Of course.
But the law cannot be allowed to be flouted. Respect is only possible when people feel secure in their streets and homes.




True, but its only possible when police practicve more care in their dealings with "suspects"



the 'suspects' should treat cops with respect.

I always have and I have never had any problems with any police.


You dont live in America which is where we are talking about. American cops shoot crims and others every day of the week. Here in Oz, that is a rarity.

I dont have any problems with OZ cops either, but in USA I would assume that they could and do shoot innocent people or even people they THINK are guilty and act accordingly.




Like the PhD student the other week they accused of stealing his own car.


Yeah, that was a good one and sadly, not unprecedented. A BMW-owning black woman was pulled over and had her car impounded because it was suspected stolen, not because it had been reported as such, but that a woman like her MUST have stolen it.  She was on one of Obamas favourite race committees. I am guess the cops got a very forceful phone call from big guys with bigger guns.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:36pm
So we have established that longie & friends do not support the Trump WH statement on law & order.
Ergo they must support bending over backwards to support the looters & the shooters, the rioters and the vandals.
No doubt they also thought Obama's pardons etc forall tthose criminals was great, the most ever turned loose by a president.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:52pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:36pm:
So we have established that longie & friends do not support the Trump WH statement on law & order.
Ergo they must support bending over backwards to support the looters & the shooters, the rioters and the vandals.
No doubt they also thought Obama's pardons etc forall tthose criminals was great, the most ever turned loose by a president.


X 2

they also must agree with all the terrorists obama wanted to flood on

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:34pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:36pm:
So we have established that longie & friends do not support the Trump WH statement on law & order.
Ergo they must support bending over backwards to support the looters & the shooters, the rioters and the vandals.
No doubt they also thought Obama's pardons etc forall tthose criminals was great, the most ever turned loose by a president.


Thats a bit of a stretch, dont you think?

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:39pm
No I don't. That's exactly where I'd position you.
An apologist for crime vs law enforcement.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:46pm
Longy is soft on crime -

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 9:38pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 6:39pm:
No I don't. That's exactly where I'd position you.
An apologist for crime vs law enforcement.


That would be because you are an idiot. You on the otherhand are clearly an apologist for police brutality. I presume you support the Phillipines president as well, correct?

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 24th, 2017 at 8:55am
You can't even get your presumptions correct.
Next question.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:23am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:36pm:
So we have established that longie & friends do not support the Trump WH statement on law & order.
Ergo they must support bending over backwards to support the looters & the shooters, the rioters and the vandals.
.



See the statement summarises up the problem. YOu can't be for both.


If you're against the Iraq war then therefore you must be against the soldiers and for the terrorists.
If you don't fully agree with Trumps statement on law and order then you must be for the criminals. Highly simplistic.


Let me repeat one more time for the idiots. You can be for law and order but against police brutality (which isn't law and order). Most cops (even the US ones) would do a fine and difficult job. But by making blanket statements Trump doesn't address the bad apples.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:42am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:23am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:36pm:
So we have established that longie & friends do not support the Trump WH statement on law & order.
Ergo they must support bending over backwards to support the looters & the shooters, the rioters and the vandals.
.



See the statement summarises up the problem. YOu can't be for both.


If you're against the Iraq war then therefore you must be against the soldiers and for the terrorists.
If you don't fully agree with Trumps statement on law and order then you must be for the criminals. Highly simplistic.


Let me repeat one more time for the idiots. You can be for law and order but against police brutality (which isn't law and order). Most cops (even the US ones) would do a fine and difficult job. But by making blanket statements Trump doesn't address the bad apples.



That is a given bojack. Nobody is FOR police brutality. What this thread is about is restoring the balance.
Obama never missed an opportunity to put the boot into the police and he rarely took the opportunity to savagely attack black and latino crime.
Why? Because he just couldn't allow himself to be seen criticising his brothers.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:43am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:42am:
That is a given bojack. Nobody is FOR police brutality. What this thread is about is restoring the balance.
Obama never missed an opportunity to put the boot into the police and he rarely took the opportunity to savagely attack black and latino crime.
Why? Because he just couldn't allow himself to be seen criticising his brothers.



Into some police. And I don't think Trump is restoring the balance if there was any failing. He's gone too far the other way.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:50am
That's your judgement. Media reports tell a different story over the past few years. Police and their unions around the country felt distinctly let down by Obama.
That's why they endorsed Trump.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:52am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 9:50am:
That's your judgement. Media reports tell a different story over the past few years. Police and their unions around the country felt distinctly let down by Obama.
That's why they endorsed Trump.




Because the history of police even in this country is that they can't separate criticism of bad apples versus criticism of the entire force.

Title: Re: Abu bin Obama's war on police is over
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:53pm
Obama gives away a last $300 Million of OTHER PEOPLES MONEY to his Islamic cronies.


Quote:
IN THE final hours of the Obama administration officials say the government defied Republican opposition and quietly released hundreds of millions of dollars to fund controversial programs.

The money was being blocked by GOP members of Congress, but about $291 million was finally released to the Palestinian Authority on Friday, along with other funds for climate change programs and UN organisations.

A State Department official and several congressional aides said the outgoing administration formally notified Congress it would spend the money Friday morning...........


http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/work/barack-obamas-final-defiant-act-before-leaving-the-white-house/news-story/8ca9ca36b959fe5d414d4ff016e28f6b

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