its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a russian invasion of Eastern Europe.

I recall when Reagan was inaugurated that the iranians released their american hostages the moment he was sworn in. They had the measure of Carter, but not Reagan. When Trump gets into power, Putin will start looking at when to invade. And given that King Trump seems to think that the President gets weekends off - he is not working on saturday or sunday - It is distinctly possible he will start the invasion tomorrow... when NO ONE is in charge.

You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert...

Wrong again.

I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule.

"People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders."

Later, he answered this question:
"How is being president going to change how you operate?"

"Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?"
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d

I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately.

I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe

The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN" anyone goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony?

Marla wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:51am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony?

so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther.

There's nothing conspiratorial about it. Look what Obama did to Libya; Bush in Iraq.

Longy...will you leave the forum as f your dud prediction is wrong??? 😄

Here's a deal: I'll leave this forum if you can stop trolling.

Marla wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:58am:

There's nothing conspiratorial about it. Look what Obama did to Libya; Bush in Iraq.

You might try a more cogent and detailed argument that that single sentence.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:59am:

Longy...will you leave the forum as f your dud prediction is wrong??? 😄

will you leave if Trump fails to complete his first term or if his approval ratings hit single digits? Of course you would claim both were 'fake news' of course.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:58am: There's nothing conspiratorial about it. Look what Obama did to Libya; Bush in Iraq. You might try a more cogent and detailed argument that that single sentence.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,


No.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:59am: Longy...will you leave the forum as f your dud prediction is wrong??? 😄 will you leave if Trump fails to complete his first term or if his approval ratings hit single digits? Of course you would claim both were 'fake news' of course.

The Presstitutes have already been caught out fudging figures saying that Trump has a very low approval rating going into the White House...

When in fact... he has an above 50% approval rating....

How many times are the Lamestream media going to be caught out before they wake up and realise the most people can see through their lies????

Marla wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:03am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 9:02am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:58am: There's nothing conspiratorial about it. Look what Obama did to Libya; Bush in Iraq. You might try a more cogent and detailed argument that that single sentence. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, No.

That's as good a surrender as it gets. If you cant make an argument in support of your claim then dont make the claim in the first place.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 9:02am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:59am: Longy...will you leave the forum as f your dud prediction is wrong??? 😄 will you leave if Trump fails to complete his first term or if his approval ratings hit single digits? Of course you would claim both were 'fake news' of course. The Presstitutes have already been caught out fudging figures saying that Trump has a very low approval rating going into the White House... When in fact... he has an above 50% approval rating.... How many times are the Lamestream media going to be caught out before they wake up and realise the most people can see through their lies????

And off mechanic goes with his written masturbation. They havent been 'caught' at all. The facts - as born out by multiple polling groups - is that Trump is very unpopular. You cannot simply write-off every articles, news story or poll number that you dont like by calling it 'fake news'. Even regular-sized idiots can see through that con.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:50am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:33am: You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately. I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade.

I'm one of the 94% of Americans who don't trust the media. I would be absolutely delighted if the pundits and infotainment celebrities were sacked and replaced with transcriptionists.

I don't want idiots "interpreting" my politicians. I'm just fine with hearing from the horses asses, directly.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:57am:

Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther.

It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:57am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:50am: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:33am: You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately. I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade. I'm one of the 94% of Americans who don't trust the media. I would be absolutely delighted if the pundits and infotainment celebrities were sacked and replaced with transcriptionists. I don't want idiots "interpreting" my politicians. I'm just fine with hearing from the horses asses, directly.

I would agree that we could do with less opinion and more hard-cold fact. But how does that translate to being 'untrustworthy'?   My concern is that while fake news has suddenly become a serious problem, an even bigger problem is that a lot of people inherently trust unreliable sources and news items that are clearly false. They do this because they don't 'trust' the main stream media.

So instead of chosing to use their brains and keep their minds open when reading the media, they choose to throw it all away and replace it with utter garbage and clear lies all because it suits their beliefs.

Some fool shoots up a restaurant because he read that it was being used as a front for Clintons child-sex ring. How many other more ons believed it and just didnt act.  the entire Trump campaign was founded on lies and fake news and 60million people swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Do I trust the media to be unbiased? absolutely not. Do I beleive they lie? no i dont. Do I trust infowars? not for a moment. Do they lie? only every time they publish

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right.

And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief.

While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:29pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:57am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:50am: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:33am: You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately. I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade. I'm one of the 94% of Americans who don't trust the media. I would be absolutely delighted if the pundits and infotainment celebrities were sacked and replaced with transcriptionists. I don't want idiots "interpreting" my politicians. I'm just fine with hearing from the horses asses, directly. I would agree that we could do with less opinion and more hard-cold fact. But how does that translate to being 'untrustworthy'?   My concern is that while fake news has suddenly become a serious problem, an even bigger problem is that a lot of people inherently trust unreliable sources and news items that are clearly false. They do this because they don't 'trust' the main stream media. So instead of chosing to use their brains and keep their minds open when reading the media, they choose to throw it all away and replace it with utter garbage and clear lies all because it suits their beliefs. Some fool shoots up a restaurant because he read that it was being used as a front for Clintons child-sex ring. How many other nice people believed it and just didnt act.  the entire Trump campaign was founded on lies and fake news and 60million people swallowed it hook line and sinker. Do I trust the media to be unbiased? absolutely not. Do I beleive they lie? no i dont. Do I trust infowars? not for a moment. Do they lie? only every time they publish

Could not have said it any better myself.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right. And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief. While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs.

And again, you are full of horseshit.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:29pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:57am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:50am: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:33am: You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately. I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade. I'm one of the 94% of Americans who don't trust the media. I would be absolutely delighted if the pundits and infotainment celebrities were sacked and replaced with transcriptionists. I don't want idiots "interpreting" my politicians. I'm just fine with hearing from the horses asses, directly. I would agree that we could do with less opinion and more hard-cold fact. But how does that translate to being 'untrustworthy'?   My concern is that while fake news has suddenly become a serious problem, an even bigger problem is that a lot of people inherently trust unreliable sources and news items that are clearly false. They do this because they don't 'trust' the main stream media. So instead of chosing to use their brains and keep their minds open when reading the media, they choose to throw it all away and replace it with utter garbage and clear lies all because it suits their beliefs. Some fool shoots up a restaurant because he read that it was being used as a front for Clintons child-sex ring. How many other nice people believed it and just didnt act.  the entire Trump campaign was founded on lies and fake news and 60million people swallowed it hook line and sinker. Do I trust the media to be unbiased? absolutely not. Do I beleive they lie? no i dont. Do I trust infowars? not for a moment. Do they lie? only every time they publish Could not have said it any better myself.

Thanks bojack.  I am actually deeply concerned that there are growing numbers of people who happily refute anything in the real media while gullibly swallowing any garbage they read on the internet. How do you ever discuss and debate a question with anyone if the source of information is limited to 'what I read on the internet'.

Quote:

When will Russia invade Eastern Europe?

Probably not till Donny sends some troops over to help them out.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:31pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right. And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief. While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs. And again, you are full of horseshit.

If you want to prove me wrong then make an actual case with actual facts. But no, you wont. You will just jump up and down and scream louder hoping that the volume of your rant will somehow make your case proven.

ONE FACT debunks a thousand beliefs. Or at least it used to. Now, in the mind of the ignorant and gullible, ONE BELIEF trumps any fact. And yes, the pun was deliberate.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:45pm:

Quote: When will Russia invade Eastern Europe? Probably not till Donny sends some troops over to help them out.

Help the russians? That makes sense. Eastern Europe needs some more Trump Hotels.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:31pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:29pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:57am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:50am: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:33am: You really need to get your news from someone other than Colbert... Wrong again. I am attaching a link to the full transcript of the interview with The Times. Trump was talking about signing off on orders regarding borders immediately...then qualified that he wasn't going to be initiating any orders until Monday, due to the Inaugural Weekend schedule. "People don’t want to have other people coming in and destroying their country and you know in this country we’re gonna go very strong borders from the day I get in. One of the first orders I’m gonna sign – day one – which I will consider to be Monday as opposed to Friday or Saturday. Right? I mean my day one is gonna be Monday because I don’t want to be signing and get it mixed up with lots of celebration, but one of the first orders we’re gonna be signing is gonna be strong borders." Later, he answered this question: "How is being president going to change how you operate?" "Ya know this is a very, very big change — I led a very nice life and ya know successful and good and nice and this is a lot different — but ya know my attitude on that is when you’re president, you’re in the White House which is a very special place — you’re there for a limited period of time — who wants to leave? Like I’ve liked President Obama, he’s been very nice, yeah he’s been nice one on one, but maybe not so nice in other ways — but who wants to leave the White House to go to some other place and be away on a vacation? The White House is very special, there’s so much work to be done, I’m not gonna be leaving much — I mean a lot of work to be done — I’m gonna be in there working, doing what I’m supposed to be doing — but who wants to leave the White House?" http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/full-transcript-of-interview-with-donald-trump-5d39sr09d I wish that instead of quoting Trtump verbatim, the journos could just turn it into proper speech. The man seems incapable of communicating succintly and articulately. I still go for my prediction of a Russian Invasion. Putin and Trump are good mates. His Secretary of State has major business interest in Russia and Trump hates NATO.  Trump might as well ring up Putin and INVITE him to invade. I'm one of the 94% of Americans who don't trust the media. I would be absolutely delighted if the pundits and infotainment celebrities were sacked and replaced with transcriptionists. I don't want idiots "interpreting" my politicians. I'm just fine with hearing from the horses asses, directly. I would agree that we could do with less opinion and more hard-cold fact. But how does that translate to being 'untrustworthy'?   My concern is that while fake news has suddenly become a serious problem, an even bigger problem is that a lot of people inherently trust unreliable sources and news items that are clearly false. They do this because they don't 'trust' the main stream media. So instead of chosing to use their brains and keep their minds open when reading the media, they choose to throw it all away and replace it with utter garbage and clear lies all because it suits their beliefs. Some fool shoots up a restaurant because he read that it was being used as a front for Clintons child-sex ring. How many other nice people believed it and just didnt act.  the entire Trump campaign was founded on lies and fake news and 60million people swallowed it hook line and sinker. Do I trust the media to be unbiased? absolutely not. Do I beleive they lie? no i dont. Do I trust infowars? not for a moment. Do they lie? only every time they publish Could not have said it any better myself. Thanks bojack.  I am actually deeply concerned that there are growing numbers of people who happily refute anything in the real media while gullibly swallowing any garbage they read on the internet. How do you ever discuss and debate a question with anyone if the source of information is limited to 'what I read on the internet'.

There are a range of websites that when quoted I instantly now its BS, because the site is renowned for pedlling that nonsense. Infowars is one, natural news is another.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:31pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right. And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief. While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs. And again, you are full of horseshit. If you want to prove me wrong then make an actual case with actual facts. But no, you wont. You will just jump up and down and scream louder hoping that the volume of your rant will somehow make your case proven. ONE FACT debunks a thousand beliefs. Or at least it used to. Now, in the mind of the ignorant and gullible, ONE BELIEF trumps any fact. And yes, the pun was deliberate.

God you are a buggerwit. Your problem, not mine.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:46pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:31pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right. And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief. While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs. And again, you are full of horseshit. If you want to prove me wrong then make an actual case with actual facts. But no, you wont. You will just jump up and down and scream louder hoping that the volume of your rant will somehow make your case proven. ONE FACT debunks a thousand beliefs. Or at least it used to. Now, in the mind of the ignorant and gullible, ONE BELIEF trumps any fact. And yes, the pun was deliberate. God you are a buggerwit. Your problem, not mine.

Oh, it is definitely YOUR problem. If you cannot support your beliefs without at least some evidence then you are essentially confirming that it is bogus.  Why wont you at least try and support your beleif? All you have done is make a single sentence statement and then think that it is all you have to say for it to be accepted as truth. You have no idea!

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:31pm: AuntieM wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 10:58am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:57am: Marla wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:51am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2017 at 8:12am: its not a question of IF but WHEN. The old KGB is back in charge via Putin and only NATO and the USA stand in the way with a Russian invasion of Eastern Europe The ruling class of America decides "IF" and "WHEN"  anyone o goes to war. Not Trump. Who is going to stop them from further exercising their global hegemony? so out with the conspiracy theories... Well you will be at home with Donald. He is a agreat fan - and beleiver - in conspiracy theories. Vaccines, 911, Birther and probably moon-landings and perhaps even a flat-earther. It's not a conspiracy theory. She's right. And once again, a little evidence would be nice other than firm belief. While you choose to distrust media with their legal obligations and penalties, their journos and resources, you choose instead to trust a basement website run by people who cant get jobs. And again, you are full of horseshit. If you want to prove me wrong then make an actual case with actual facts. But no, you wont. You will just jump up and down and scream louder hoping that the volume of your rant will somehow make your case proven. ONE FACT debunks a thousand beliefs. Or at least it used to. Now, in the mind of the ignorant and gullible, ONE BELIEF trumps any fact. And yes, the pun was deliberate.

You are a delusional partisan buggerwit. Stop projecting your ignorance onto me. Thank you. I -- and clearly not you -- take my news from a wide variety of sources and doubt any conclusion some hack tries to lead me to. 

You can use straw men all you want, but it doesn't con anyone. You're a twit.

I don't have to provide you with anything.

Bugger off.

When will Russia invade Eastern Europe? Never if it doesn't fall to Islam.

Russia has already invaded Ukraine and Crimea. Don't you listen to MSM? LOL!

Furthermore if Russia wanted to expand its territory why did it withdraw from Georgia? Huh!

If any of you wants to read truthful reporting you should go to Paul Craig Roberts website.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/14/what-obama-means-by-the-russian-threat/

This is your CIA owned MSM trying to create war with Russia.


Former Newspaper Editor Who Exposed CIA Found Dead
Former editor of largest newspaper in Germany revealed the CIA pays journalists in Germany, France, Britain, Australia and New Zealand to plant fake stories - and the CIA is trying to bring war to Russia
Posted on January 15, 2017 by Baxter Dmitry in News, World // 42 Comments
Dr Udo Ulfkotte, the former German newspaper editor whose bestselling book exposed how the CIA controls German media, has been found dead.
   
Dr Udo Ulfkotte, the former German newspaper editor whose bestselling book exposed how the CIA controls German media, has been found dead. He was 56.



Ulfkotte was an editor at Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, one of the largest newspapers in Germany, when he published Bought Journalists, the bestselling book that cost him his job and perhaps his life.

German media, who were banned from reporting on his work in recent years, are reporting he died of “heart failure”.

Acknowledging that his life was under threat, Ulfkotte explained that he was in a better position than most journalists to expose the truth because he didn’t have any children who could be threatened.

Speaking to the Russian newspaper Russian Insider, Ulkfotte said: “When I told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Ulfkotte’s newspaper) that I would publish the book, their lawyers sent me a letter threatening with all legal consequences if I would publish any names or secrets – but I don’t mind. You see, I don’t have children to take care of.“

His fears for a war in Europe, lead him to his decision to tell the truth about corporate media being controlled by intelligence services on behalf of the financial class.

“I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I’ve been educated to lie, to betray, and not to tell the truth to the public,” Ulfkotte told Russia Today. “I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA. Why? Because I am pro-American.”


“The German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia. This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say… it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia.”

Ulfkotte said most corporate media journalists in the United States and Europe are “so-called non-official cover,” meaning that they work for an intelligence agency. “I think it is especially the case with British journalists, because they have a much closer relationship. It is especially the case with Israeli journalists. Of course with French journalists. … It is the case for Australians, [with] journalists from New Zealand, from Taiwan, well, there is many countries,” he said.



Ulfkotte’s book Bought Journalists became a bestseller in Germany but, in a bizarre twist which Ulfkotte says characterizes the disconnect caused by CIA control of the western media, the book cannot be reported on by the German press.

Ulfkotte said: “No German mainstream journalist is allowed to report about [my] book. Otherwise he or she will be sacked. So we have a bestseller now that no German journalist is allowed to write or talk about.”

Among the stories Ulfkotte says he was ordered by the CIA to plant in his newspaper was a fake story that Libyan President Moammar Gaddafi was building poison gas factories in 2011.

“The German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia,” he told RT.

“This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say … it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do, and have done in the past, because they are bribed to betray the people not only in Germany, all over Europe. … I am very fearful of a new war in Europe, and I don’t like to have this situation again, because war is never coming from itself, there is always people who push for war, and this is not only politicians, it is journalists too. … We have betrayed our readers, just to push for war. … I don’t want this anymore; I’m fed up with this propaganda. We live in a banana republic, and not in a democratic country where we have press freedom.”

http://yournewswire.com/german-newspaper-editor-exposed-cia-dead/

Former editor of largest newspaper in Germany revealed the CIA pays journalists in Germany, France, Britain, Australia and New Zealand to plant fake stories - and the CIA is trying to bring war to Russia

This is from my previous post.
This is major news for some posters here! Suck it up criminals, liars, Greg, Marla and Longweekend!

Liars don't care. Relax.

try a reputable source for a change.

Says the man who uses "Comedy Central" as his news source and disparages transcripts of interviews from The Times.

Right.

Goodnight, Gracie.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Says the man who uses "Comedy Central" as his news source and disparages transcripts of interviews from The Times. Right. Goodnight, Gracie.

I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence - ANY EVIDENCE - of your idiotic claim that wars are decided on by some mysterious 'elite'.

I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 

issuevoter wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:33pm:

I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.

they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:41pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm: I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.  they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.

Yes, warm water ports are desirable, but I thought we were talking about the invasion of Eastern Europe. Yes, Russia is expansionist, but I don't see anything in my post that indicates otherwise.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm: issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm: I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.  they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history. Yes, warm water ports are desirable, but I thought we were talking about the invasion of Eastern Europe. Yes, Russia is expansionist, but I don't see anything in my post that indicates otherwise.

Eastern Europe is rather nervous about Putin and unlike you, their fear is based on recent bitter experience.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:41pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm: I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.  they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.

Is Russia expansionist?
The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago.
A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's.
Another BS story.
You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.

Richdude wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm: issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm: I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.  they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history. Is Russia expansionist? The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago. A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's. Another BS story. You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.

so what was the reason for the invasion? or are you one of those 'special people' who even think it didnt happen?

Richdude wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm: issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm: I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back. But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys.  they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history. Is Russia expansionist? The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago. A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's. Another BS story. You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.

I don't remember that being the case (apart from the fact that Af-stan is not even close to the sea) I recall that Soviet intervention was to prop up the Marxist government in Kabul, which was just a tiny bunch of intellectuals who had been to the West.

That was an interesting situation, because it suggested what would happen if a Red Chinese domino effect had come up against the Islamic Republics of Malayasia and Indonesia before it got to Australia. So, Phuc-u Bob Menzies and Harold (All the way with LBJ) Holt.