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it was so obvious they hated each other.. the Clintons and Obamas....I cant remember even seeing them together outside of the war room.....

and the huge thank you Obama gave Biden.. and not a word to hills..  was pretty plain for all to see....

sorry I dont get American humor auntieM...

I am expecting Trump will have the last laugh on the democrats    and serves them right...

The Obamas had good reason to hate Clinton; her campaign was vicious, underhanded and miserable.

One big one -- the Clinton campaign in the early stages of the 2008 election, were the original source of doubting President Obama's status as a natural-born American citizen.  She and Willy also took some racist digs at President Obama back then, too.

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The Clinton Syndicate's sleazy politics failed then, and it failed again this election.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

One big one -- the Clinton campaign in the early stages of the 2008 election, were the original source of doubting President Obama's status as a natural-born American citizen.

Trump said that but it is false - it has been debunked again and again. What is true is that Trump used the birther movement as his ticket to the White House.

No, I'm sorry, but you're misinformed.  The birth certificate malarkey followed the Clinton Syndicate's campaign of disinformation and deception.

http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/03a0d30/2147483647/resize/970x/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usnews.com%2Fdbimages%2Fmaster%2F3727%2FFE_DA_080225whispers.jpg
February 25th, 2008
02:15 PM ET
9 years ago
Obama camp slams Clinton team on controversial photo
Obama's campaign accused the Clinton campaign of circulating this 2006 photo of Obama Monday.

(CNN) - Barack Obama’s campaign accused Hillary Clinton’s team Monday of circulating a photo of the Illinois senator donning traditional attire – clothing worn by area Muslims – as a goodwill gesture during an overseas trip.

In a statement, the Clinton campaign called the charge “an obvious and transparent attempt to distract” voters from serious issues – but did not issue a denial.

The picture, which appeared on the Drudge Report this morning, was attributed to sources within the Clinton campaign – although the Web site did not reveal how many, or who, might have received the photo.

In a statement, Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe, said Clinton’s campaign was engaged in “shameful, offensive fear-mongering,” though he did not point to any proof beyond the original item that appeared on Matt Drudge’s blog.

“This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire,” said Plouffe. “and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world."

Earlier this year, some Clinton volunteers left her campaign in those states after circulating e-mails that falsely claimed Barack Obama was a Muslim – an inaccurate rumor his campaign has worked hard to dispel - and suggesting that his drug use as a young man might make him vulnerable to Republican attacks were he to become the nominee.


Clinton’s campaign manager Maggie Williams responded to the photo controversy with a Monday morning statement that insisted the New York senator’s team “will not be distracted,” but did not directly address the substance of the allegation.

“Enough. If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely,” said Williams.

“This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry. We will not be distracted.”

On a campaign conference call with reporters, Ret. Major Gen. Scott Gration, who traveled to Africa with Obama, said the photo showed that “he did what any great leader should do - he accepted the gift, accepted the hospitality, accepted that token of friendship."

UPDATE: On a conference call with reporters Monday, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told reports that he had not seen the photo, that "I’m not aware that anyone in this campaign circulated it -- I don’t imagine that you have any independent reporting to suggest that we did."

Late Monday, the campaign sent out a memo in which Wolfson said he had not been aware of the release of the photo, and that it had not been sanctioned by the campaign -- but added that "We have over 700 people on this campaign and I’m not in a position to know what each one of them may or may not have done."

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/25/obama-camp-slams-clinton-team-on-controversial-photo/comment-page-17/
Penn Strategy Memo, March 19, 2007

JOSHUA GREEN  AUG 11, 2008   POLITICS

Note page two of the Penn Strategy memo -- he recommend attacking Obama's "lack of American roots"
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/

oh but wait, there is more...

Birtherism: Where it all began
By BEN SMITH and BYRON TAU 04/22/11 04:22 AM EDT Updated 04/24/11 05:33 PM EDT
The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama. (See:  Bachmann: Birther issue settled)

The theory’s proponents are a mix of hucksters and earnest conspiracy theorists, including prominently a lawyer who previously devoted himself to ‘proving’ that the Sept. 11 attacks were an inside job. Its believers are primarily people predisposed to dislike Obama. That willingness to believe the worst about officials of the opposite party is a common feature of presidential rumor-mongering: In 2006, an Ohio University/Scripps Howard poll found that slightly more than half of Democrats said they suspected the Bush Administration of complicity in the Sept. 11 attacks.

While there is no grain of truth to either fantasy, there’s something else when it comes to Obama: A visceral reaction against him, a deep sense that the first black president, with liberal views and a Muslim name, must be—in some concrete, provable way—foreign. (See:  Mitt: Obama born here. Period.)
...
Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve. (See:  Birther debate alive across U.S.)

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=3
8 Years Late, McClatchy Finally Reports Investigating Blumenthal-Inspired Obama 'Birther' Rumors in Kenya
By Tom Blumer | September 17, 2016 | 10:42 AM EDT
Friday night, yours truly detailed the latest evidence demonstrating that the Hillary Clinton campaign and a close confidant of Mrs. Clinton herself were involved in early 2008 in spreading the “birther” rumors, i.e., that then-Illinois Senator Barack Obama was not born in the U.S. Despite this news and other longstanding items, the Associated Press and others still insist that there is "no evidence" that Mrs. Clinton was connected with the rumors' initiation.

Concerning the Clinton confidant, former McClatchy Washington Bureau chief James Asher tweeted early Friday morning that Sidney Blumenthal “spread the Obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate.” What he didn’t say is that Blumenthal’s urgings actually caused McClatchy to investigate the matter, even sending reporter(s) to Kenya, where Blumenthal had “told me (Asher) in person Obama (was) born."

From all appearance, McClatchy has never previously reported Blumenthal's clear attempt to steer the news in the interest of smearing a political opponent, their own compliance with that attempt, or what their reporters found. Those details appeared in a very misleading McClatchy report Friday night.

The McClatchy report by David Goldstein is especially offensive because it adopts a "both sides were doing it" stance, giving readers unfamiliar with the timeline of the controversy the impression that the center-right was going after the birther rumors at the same time as Team Clinton. Center-right interest in whether Obama was born in the U.S. did not percolate until well after Obama's nomination became a mathematical certainty.

Here are several paragraphs from the McClatchy mess (links are in original; bolds are mine:
2 Clinton supporters in ’08 reportedly shared Obama ‘birther’ story
Two supporters of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign reportedly shared the claim that then-rival Barack Obama was not born in the United States and thus was not eligible to be president.

One was a volunteer in Iowa, who was fired, Clinton’s former campaign manager said Friday. The other was Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal, according to a former McClatchy Washington Bureau chief.

... In fact, there were several people publicly pushing the theory, which was repeated extensively on conservative news outlets. There were the two Clinton supporters, but there is no evidence that Clinton herself or her campaign spread the story.

Let's stop there. The link associated with "publicly pushing this theory" goes to a McClatchy story published on June 30, 2009, about 14 months after Obama had all but sealed the nomination. (Mrs. Clinton, seen as "hopelessly trailing" by early May 2008, did not formally concede until early June.)
....But WAIT, there is MORE!

The earliest indication of center-right interest in whether Obama was born in the U.S. did not appear until several days after Mrs. Clinton's formal succession, when, instead of responding to rumors, Jim Geraghty at National Review was responding to the fact that the Obama campaign was refusing to release the candidate's birth certificate:

Reporters have asked for it and been denied, and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

The campaign cited the birth certificate in their “Fact Check” on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it.

Shortly after that, the "Certificate of Live Birth" was released, leading to demands for the "long-form" birth certificate, and years of conspiracy-mongering ensued — all of which was blamed on the right, but none of which started there.

Getting back to Goldstein's writeup:

Meanwhile, former McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief James Asher tweeted Friday that Blumenthal had “told me in person” that Obama was born in Kenya.

“During the 2008 Democratic primary, Sid Blumenthal visited the Washington Bureau of McClatchy Co.,” Asher said in an email Friday to McClatchy, noting that he was at the time the investigative editor and in charge of Africa coverage.

“During that meeting, Mr. Blumenthal and I met together in my office and he strongly urged me to investigate the exact place of President Obama’s birth, which he suggested was in Kenya. We assigned a reporter to go to Kenya, and that reporter determined that the allegation was false.

“At the time of Mr. Blumenthal’s conversation with me, there had been a few news articles published in various outlets reporting on rumors about Obama’s birthplace. While Mr. Blumenthal offered no concrete proof of Obama’s Kenyan birth, I felt that, as journalists, we had a responsibility to determine whether or not those rumors were true. They were not.”

Blumenthal, who worked in the White House with President Bill Clinton and later was employed by the Clinton Foundation, could not be reached Friday but said in an email to The Boston Globe, “This is false. Period.”

Sure, Sid.

If "we had a responsibility to determine whether or not those rumors were true," why didn't McClatchy from all appearances never report on what they found, i.e., nothing, and who had requested the investigation? (If McClatchy published anything on this, you would think that Asher would have brought it up.) Blumenthal, unless he asked for it, certainly didn't have a right to assume that his request would be kept confidential — and even if he was granted confidentiality, McClatchy still could have reported that "a high-level Clinton operative who requested anonymity" had initiated the request. Blumenthal certainly had no right to demand that a journalist not report the existence of any inquiry that didn't find anything.

Additionally, inquiring minds would like to know exactly when the McClatchy reporter involved made the referenced trip to Kenya, and exactly when he or she concluded that there was no evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.

In this case, given the Clinton-drive rumors which were swirling, finding nothing would certainly have news if it had been reported. If the news service had done this, it might not have stopped the "birther" movement dead in its tracks, but it certainly would have presented a fairly formidable credibility obstacle.

Instead of looking like heroes for bringing up Blumenthal now, Asher and McClatchy are goats for keeping his involvement which led to an actual investigation bottled up for eight long years, and for failing to report the investigation's results.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/09/17/8-years-late-mcclatchy-finally-reports-investigating-obama-birther
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html

The Clinton Smear Campaign Against Obama

Published on
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
by Stephen Zunes
CommonDreams.org
Unable to find much that Barack Obama himself has said or believes that is particularly alien to the thinking and values of most Americans, Hillary Clinton and her supporters in the media have chosen instead to engage in a campaign of guilt-by-association.

Not surprisingly, right-wing media pundits and prominent Republicans have thrown their weight behind Clinton's efforts, taken advantage of the New York senator's attacks to smear the likely Democratic presidential nominee. For example, North Carolina Republicans are readying a television ad on the eve of that state's primary which includes a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together, a video clip of Wright making incendiary comments, with a voiceover telling voters that Obama is "just too extreme for North Carolina."

Clinton's guilt-by-association campaign has even moved to additional degrees of separation. For example, before tens of millions of viewers of the April 16 debate in Philadelphia, Clinton again brought up Obama's alleged "relationships with Louis Farrakhan," despite Obama's repeated and unequivocal denunciations of anti-Semitic statements and other controversial actions by the Black Muslim leader. The apparent extent of Obama's alleged "relationship" with the Nation of Islam leader which prompted Clinton's charge was that a magazine for which Obama's pastor's daughter serves as publisher granted an award to Farrakhan in honor of a successful program he had set up to rehabilitate ex-convicts.

During that same debate, Clinton went so far as to link Obama with the radical Palestinian Islamist group Hamas because the "pastor's pages" section of the weekly bulletin of the church Obama attended once included -- as part of a series of opinion pieces reprinted from various newspapers around the country -- an op-ed column from the Los Angeles Times written by a Hamas leader. Though Obama had already categorically condemned the decision to reprint that article, Clinton told the tens of millions of viewers that "we have a choice who we associate with and who we apparently give some kind of seal of approval to," such as the pastor who -- in Clinton's typically hyperbolic version of events designed to discredit her rival -- was guilty of "giving the church bulletin over to the leader of Hamas."

Hillary Clinton has even attacked Obama for having served on the board of the Chicago anti-poverty group known as the Woods Fund at the same time as former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers. Ayers, who was never convicted of any crime, is now a distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago and served as a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley. Clinton apparently saw it as irrelevant that, at the time of Ayers' involvement in the Weather Underground, Obama was just eight years old and living nearly ten thousand miles away in Indonesia.

This raises the very disturbing prospect that, as president, Clinton would use similar guilt-by-association smears against anti-war activists, environmentalists, opponents of neo-liberal globalization, and others who -- like Obama -- dare to challenge her pro-war and pro-corporate agenda.

Few of us on the American left haven't had at least some indirect association with people who, in the recent or distant past, have used rhetoric or engaged in activities most of us would find extreme, irresponsible or reprehensible. (I once asked a respected colleague to write a letter-of-recommendation for a post-doctoral fellowship for which I was applying at Stanford University only to be told that it would probably not be to my advantage since he had been expelled from that institution as an undergraduate for firebombing the Hoover Institution.)

Any cursory examination of clergy and other associates of most prominent Republicans would likely reveal ties to any number of bigots, terrorists (particularly Cuban and Nicaraguan), and other extremists. Yet Clinton has chosen to focus her guilt-by-association campaign on her progressive African-American opponent.

Ironically, the Clintons invited Rev. Wright to the White House as a spiritual advisor and it was President Bill Clinton who pardoned Ayers' wife and fellow Weather Underground activist Bernadine Dohrn. Hillary's self-righteous attacks against Obama, then, are not as much about individuals with whom he has been associated as they are an effort to discredit the party's left wing as a whole...
In a manner reminiscent of anti-Semites who insisted that Jews were simultaneously bankers controlling the world's wealth and Communists plotting Marxist revolution, Clinton and her supporters are trying to simultaneously portray Obama as both a leftist with radical associates as well as an elitist who doesn't care about ordinary working class Americans. Even the normally pro-Clinton New York Times has referred to her campaign strategy "mean, vacuous, and pandering."
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/04/30/clinton-smear-campaign-against-obama

ooh, and let's not forget the Clinton dogwhistles...
While struggling to stop Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary, Clinton tried to diminish Obama’s credentials as a “community organizer,” which had led some to draw connections between him and Dr. Martin Luther King. Clinton argued that it was really a professional politician, President Lyndon Johnson, who made the difference: “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act”, she stated.

In May 2008, Clinton told the USA Today that while Obama was leading the delegate race, she still had a broader political base. Unfortunately, she made that claim in explicitly racial terms, citing an Associated Press poll “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

Also in 2008, Clinton attacked Obama’s connection to Tony Rezko: “I was fighting against those (referring toReagan) ideas when you were practicing law and representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago,” she claimed in a SC debate. Classy dame. NOT.

So laf. The birther rumor did not start with HRC. Funny that, how for years men in Revolutionary garb paraded about and blathered about Obama's birth certificate and then Trump carried the torch for them, and when he got burned he quickly blamed the entire affair on Hillary Clinton. He is quite the master persuader, but that doesn't make it true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/?utm_term=.03c8b19bde44

What a pathetic, predictable partisan response from a Clinton devotee.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

The Obamas had good reason to hate Clinton; her campaign was vicious, underhanded and miserable. One big one -- the Clinton campaign in the early stages of the 2008 election, were the original source of doubting President Obama's status as a natural-born American citizen.  She and Willy also took some racist digs at President Obama back then, too.

not wrong.. I dont know about you but I could feel how uncomfortable Michelle  was being on the stage with her.  she kind of never looked at that smiling smiling face...Hillary is so used to being phony she gets away with it.. but the Obamas hadnt had that much practice...and I was embarrassed for Michelle  she wasnt happy at all.

Mrs Obama isn't an experienced sleaze like Clinton.

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AiA wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

So laf.  The birther rumor did not start with HRC. Funny that, how for years men in Revolutionary garb paraded about and blathered about Obama's birth certificate and then Trump carried the torch for them, and when he got burned he quickly blamed the entire affair on Hillary Clinton. He is quite the master persuader, but that doesn't make it true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/?utm_term=.03c8b19bde44

Can you prove, with links to documentation that corroborates your quips AiA, can you prove AuntieM is lying? That her documents, & the people behind them are too?

That is exactly what you are saying about AuntieM, isn't it?

She clings to one WaPo article about the birth certificate fracas, Panther.
What Clinton did, predates that, and although is sneakier, is no less racist or reprehensible.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

She clings to one WaPo article about the birth certificate fracas, Panther. What Clinton did, predates that, and although is sneakier, is no less racist or reprehensible.

Pssssssst    .............. She is a He, unless the gender sign is wrong.......or......it's a switch hitter?????????

Ok....but just because inquisitive minds need to know, wasn't the Obama Birth Certificate, unimportant as it seems to be at this date....he's leaving...., but wasn't that Birth Certificate just recently proven to be counterfeit anyway, by independent investigations, making this whole he did this, she did that debate immaterial?

JFYI......this video is seriously real....:


START AT 6:04
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I personally feel President Obama was a natural-born citizen through mother, regardless where he was born. I believe in jus sanguinis citizenship, for one thing, which would make his place of birth irrelevant to me.
I know people who knew his mother, and I understand she was such a free spirit, he might have had an American father from when she was at school in Hawaii, anyway.  I think it's entirely possible that the elder Obama offered his hand and his name to help a friend, even though he had another wife, because his culture and religious beliefs allowed him to take another.  (Ann didn't share those beliefs, she was pretty much an atheist, in practice.)

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