http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html

* He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19.

* He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas.

* He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings.

* He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack.


Trump for impeachment in 2016.

Sure thing. Right after we indict the Clintons, arrest George Soros and his cohorts, for seditious conspiracy, and go after the DNC leadership, as well.  Oops, then Eric Holder as well for all the laws he broke while in office. Then we need to look at the last Bush administration, as well...
We can make them all a terrific warning for everyone else.

Oops. Except all we imagine to be true about Trump, at this point, is that he's a perv and a narcissist. Neither are illegal, so not impeachable.

Shall we give the man a chance to do the right thing in office first,or are we just going to carve our own eyes out to spite our face, before we give it a go?

Go right ahead an indict. What's stopping you conspiracy cretins?

meanwhile...

https://youtu.be/0MWOHjt_3ms

https://youtu.be/dqw9-RjSdm4

He will be impeached.

Washington attorney Bruce Fein puts the odds at 50/50 that a President Trump commits impeachable offenses as president. Liberal Florida Rep. Alan Grayson says Trump’s insistence on building a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border, if concrete was poured despite Congress’s opposition, could lead down a path toward impeachment.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-impeachment-213817

His "presidency" will be a disgrace.  It pretty much already is and the fat dayglo orange freak hasn't been in Office yet.

Take a good look at the man who sold America out to Putin

http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/trump-putin-2016.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/98/ae/4a/98ae4a2a28aa1250f740cbc3e538d940.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9MxEQhqh7iU/V5lLipPdaSI/AAAAAAAAHp0/FEOCkFd5fQMYNAJqgy0kBReIy8uFZd5kwCLcB/s640/trump%2Btreason.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoZUUfNXYAELLvG.jpg

https://youtu.be/AOfIm5YZzVo

https://youtu.be/Wivt2V6RFZc

is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy???

I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable..

its given me an amazing look at the American psyche..

I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly...

shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is...

Who is talking about "losing," you hippie troll?

This is about impeachment. Now he can't be impeached if he didn't win. 

...and it's "Marla," you asshole

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:03am:

is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy??? I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable.. its given me an amazing look at the American psyche.. I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly... shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is...

Please don't judge my country by obsessed loons...

AuntieM wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:09am:

cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:03am: is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy??? I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable.. its given me an amazing look at the American psyche.. I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly... shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is... Please don't judge my country by obsessed loons...

oh didnt know you were American... you have my sympathy..

gosh marlon is such a sore loser....did the CLinton Foundation say they would pay for all their fans shrink treatment..I can only guess dear marlon will be in treatment for a loooooooooooong time...

AuntieM wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:09am:

cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:03am: is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy??? I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable.. its given me an amazing look at the American psyche.. I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly... shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is... Please don't judge my country by obsessed loons...

Your country?

I'm sorry, can you please provide the deed?

Can you, 4th Estate sock puppet?

Whatever your opinion Marla, your posts are becoming increasingly hysterical in tone. It undervalues any point you want to make.

the beta males and low status fillies do not get to tell the alpha stallion
"who's who in the zoo".

There is a natural order to things.
Alpha males like Trump and Putin are natural leaders.

I would suggest you watch "david Attenborroughs  Life of Mammals ' to try to understand how things operate here on planet earth , or as i like to call it "reality"

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:38am:

There is a natural order to things. Alpha males like Trump and Putin are natural leaders.

So treason is a "natural order"?

Christ, I always thought you were a dumbass but now it's confirmed.

looks like marla has a new crack pipe...  ::)

Looks like Grumpy Trumpy will soon have himself a new cellmate.

They used to shoot people in this country for treason. Mayne America can be made great again by reinstilling that law.

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/275256/27204802/1471870368667/trump-putin-puppet.jpg

Bad ganja, Marylou?

Marla wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:40am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:38am: There is a natural order to things. Alpha males like Trump and Putin are natural leaders. So treason is a "natural order"? Christ, I always thought you were a dumbass but now it's confirmed.

If an alpha stallion in charge of one herd decides to consult another alpha stallion about grazing rites in a certain paddock, then he is quite within his rights to do so.
He is the king and what he says is LAW.
If the beta males and scrubby mares dont like it, they can rack off into the hills and see how they go as 'rugged individuals". Being as they are soft co*k marshmallows, they will probably be eaten by wolves.
Best they seek comfort in strength

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2728924.1469668623!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/article-front-0727.jpg

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:50am:

Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:40am: aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:38am: There is a natural order to things. Alpha males like Trump and Putin are natural leaders. So treason is a "natural order"? Christ, I always thought you were a dumbass but now it's confirmed. If an alpha stallion in charge of one herd decides to consult another alpha stallion about grazing rites in a certain paddock, then he is quite within his rights to do so. He is the king and what he says is LAW. If the beta males and scrubby mares dont like it, they can rack off into the hills and see how they go as 'rugged individuals". Being as they are soft co*k marshmallows, they will probably be eaten by wolves. Best they seek comfort in strength

Please dude, not toady. You incoherent and irreverent MRA word salad is nothing more than a headache.

http://i67.tinypic.com/3307ksl.png

http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cherokee.jpg

Brings back the time(s) when America was truly "great." We hung traitors for their crimes.

http://www.wnd.com/files/2016/04/Limbaugh-Trump.jpg

Yes.

oh wow.. Marylou has gone Bonkers..  ;D

http://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/blogs/Breaking-Democrats-Introduced-Bill-To-Impeach-Trump-13858-1.png

Marla wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:50am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:40am: aquascoot wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:38am: There is a natural order to things. Alpha males like Trump and Putin are natural leaders. So treason is a "natural order"? Christ, I always thought you were a dumbass but now it's confirmed. If an alpha stallion in charge of one herd decides to consult another alpha stallion about grazing rites in a certain paddock, then he is quite within his rights to do so. He is the king and what he says is LAW. If the beta males and scrubby mares dont like it, they can rack off into the hills and see how they go as 'rugged individuals". Being as they are soft co*k marshmallows, they will probably be eaten by wolves. Best they seek comfort in strength Please dude, not toady. You incoherent and irreverent MRA word salad is nothing more than a headache.

Headaches and other psychosomatic symptoms are , what Ekhardt Tolle calls, "addiction to your pain".

You do understand that emotional states are addictive?

the hatred you feel....it makes you happy, doesnt it.
Its very much a 'mob mentality" and an "animal consciousness".

Each little picture of Trump effigies being hung or burnt...this is giving you a little hit of pleasure as it fuels your hatred addiction.
the problem is that you are building synaptic pathways in your brain that will become permanent (there is a good book on this even suggesting that the very DNA of the genes can be changed by using these pathways over and over again).
The result is a permanent personilty change that is addicted to hate and outrage.

This is very very dangerous. When you settle down and have children , for example, this addiction and these pathways both can and almost certainly will reactivate and you will express hate and outrage to your children if they spill the milk.
i would advice anyone who is having hateful thought intrusion to commence "gratitude meditation' immediately.

You could , for example, be very very grateful you live in the USA and not in the sudan . build more helpful pathways in your brain

https://youtu.be/vBNor5NSMUo

The grounds for impeaching a president can be found in Article II of the United States Constitution, which says an official must be convicted by a majority vote in Congress over “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” Treason may be the most likely Russia-related charge to take down Trump...


http://www.ibtimes.com/can-donald-trump-be-impeached-over-russia-allegations-how-possible-treason-charges-2473861

The orange douche-bag will be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon.

Life is good.

:)

http://www.theimproper.com/144280/trump-treason-russia-campaign-link-confirmed-by-gloating-russians/


"A senior Russian diplomat confirmed that key members of Trump’s campaign were in touch with Russian officials during the election."

http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c0.57.851.851/15803472_361357877567527_5515414929269587968_n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cye8RLhUoAAgtdz.jpg

I really thought.. maybe hoped we had seen the worst of AMericans....maybe they dont kow but this dreadful sulking and bad mouthing is setting a precedent for future sour grapes for a loss at an election...

or even losing a football game....

they appear to have no control at all..their hatred and god only knows who is behind all the filthy accusations.. will be well displayed once again in the future..

I have never had a whole lot of respect for America or Americans...for that matter they way they find people like OJ and cops that are shown to be beating the hell out of a black man..not guilty of a crime.. sends shivers down my back....their crazyness has gone on for years and of course with the advent of technology just about everything is on record.....

sadly I can see this behaviour becoming the norm in the future....a huge divide in that country it could take years to recover.....bitterness leaves a bitter taste and makes people ugly but they cant see it.. they call it POWER>...blacks RIOT and burn down their own homes and towns... and this is more of the same..

dont like the verdict..

rampage...

its the good old American Way...

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:03am:

is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy??? I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable.. its given me an amazing look at the American psyche.. I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly... shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is...

Give the idiot a colouring (correct spelling Marlon) book and some nice coloured crayons.........that should keep the drug addict occupied for a month or two.....

Look, it's little firetroll who claims to has traveled all over the world - from his trolling bridge. 


I knew this thread would bring out all the trolls.

Marla wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:37am:

Look, it's little firetroll who claims to has traveled all over the world - from his trolling bridge.  I knew this thread would bring out all the trolls.

cant handle the truth eh?..

18 U.S. code 2381, which defines treason:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

https://7373-presscdn-0-43-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/PutinTrump.jpg

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:40am:

Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 7:37am: Look, it's little firetroll who claims to has traveled all over the world - from his trolling bridge.  I knew this thread would bring out all the trolls. cant handle the truth eh?..

What, that you're a troll? What's there to handle?

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:31am:

I really thought.. maybe hoped we had seen the worst of AMericans....maybe they dont kow but this dreadful sulking and bad mouthing is setting a precedent for future sour grapes for a loss at an election... or even losing a football game.... they appear to have no control at all..their hatred and god only knows who is behind all the filthy accusations.. will be well displayed once again in the future.. I have never had a whole lot of respect for America or Americans...for that matter they way they find people like OJ and cops that are shown to be beating the hell out of a black man..not guilty of a crime.. sends shivers down my back....their crazyness has gone on for years and of course with the advent of technology just about everything is on record..... sadly I can see this behaviour becoming the norm in the future....a huge divide in that country it could take years to recover.....bitterness leaves a bitter taste and makes people ugly but they cant see it.. they call it POWER>...blacks RIOT and burn down their own homes and towns... and this is more of the same.. dont like the verdict.. rampage... its the good old American Way...

X2 cods

This would have to be one of the biggest dummy spits of al time...

How bad has American politics gotten whereby the people have gone bonkers

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:43am:

How bad has American politics gotten whereby the people have gone bonkers

http://www.newsdaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trump-mentally-unstable.jpg

If only Minty Sprinty knew the irony of his trolling.

Donald Trump could be impeached on his first day in office due to conflicts of interest that would arise from him running the country and maintaining his business at the same time, legal experts have warned.

Steven Schooner, a law professor at George Washington University, told MSNBC on Monday that because the President-elect does business in various countries, he could have an “impeachment issue" because there are "foreign states basically paying money to the Trump Organisation by using their hotels.”

Professor Schooner said: “The contract [with the General Services Administration] specifically says that no elected official of the United States government can share or benefit from the lease. It’s a 60-year lease with the GSA but the language is unequivocally clear.”


And you just know the Dems and the GOP hardliners who hate this asshole cannot wait to drop the hammer on him.

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-russia-ukraine-sidelined.jpg
The other possible bombshell on page 8 of the dossier is the claim that Trump and his team were mostly unbothered by the news of possible Russian hacking of the DNC and Clinton campaign, because it would distract from his huge financial dealings with China — that’s a thing that would make a hella big difference, if true. Also, more sex stuff. Frankly, we find it difficult to believe Donald Trump would ever find prostitutes a satisfactory replacement for real estate deals and money."
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-russia-china-distraction.jpg

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-prosties.jpg

Alleged treason to me
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-russia-Michael-Cohen-meetings-EU.jpg

Marla wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:41am:

cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 7:40am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 7:37am: Look, it's little firetroll who claims to has traveled all over the world - from his trolling bridge.  I knew this thread would bring out all the trolls. cant handle the truth eh?.. What, that you're a troll? What's there to handle?

no pet your  a sore loser... god help you if your country ever goes to war again.. you will all roll over and wave the white flag.. no stamina or guts...cant even take losing an election on the chin....bunch of wimps...bunch of cry babies..

never did have much time for Americans now I have even less.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 7:43am:

cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 7:31am: I really thought.. maybe hoped we had seen the worst of AMericans....maybe they dont kow but this dreadful sulking and bad mouthing is setting a precedent for future sour grapes for a loss at an election... or even losing a football game.... they appear to have no control at all..their hatred and god only knows who is behind all the filthy accusations.. will be well displayed once again in the future.. I have never had a whole lot of respect for America or Americans...for that matter they way they find people like OJ and cops that are shown to be beating the hell out of a black man..not guilty of a crime.. sends shivers down my back....their crazyness has gone on for years and of course with the advent of technology just about everything is on record..... sadly I can see this behaviour becoming the norm in the future....a huge divide in that country it could take years to recover.....bitterness leaves a bitter taste and makes people ugly but they cant see it.. they call it POWER>...blacks RIOT and burn down their own homes and towns... and this is more of the same.. dont like the verdict.. rampage... its the good old American Way... X2 cods This would have to be one of the biggest dummy spits of al time... How bad has American politics gotten whereby the people have gone bonkers

it was the same with Abbott he hadnt even been sworn in and out the sour grape lot came and accused him of all sort..

I am so hoping Trump will smack them all in their ugly faces..they have had 8 years of nothing from Obama accept a sweet smile...the biggest thing he did was sack the Russians.. which would never have happened if Hills had crawled over the line........even though she whined all the way through the Russians I blame the Russians....


I remember when the world held America very high in the order of Powerful...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

all you can do is feel sorry for them now..

Putin didnt even blink when they sacked his people.....he too doesnt hold them in high esteem  ::) ::)

I wonder why... :(

the yanks will eat themselves alive  you will see....
going downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn..

Because Putin sees little sooks like Marlon the Drug Addict..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ohhhhhh lookie. The little firetroll sulks to his tiresome insults.

Guess that's what living under a bridge your entire life does to you. 

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

no pet your  a sore loser...

I own a loser?

Um, okay


cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

god help you if your country ever goes to war again.. you will all roll over and wave the white flag.. no stamina or guts...cant even take losing an election on the chin....bunch of wimps...bunch of cry babies..

Um, asshole, my country has been at war for over 15 years. And your bullshit insulting cry baby rhetoric only tells me you want America to fight your battles so fat buggerst rolls like yourself can sit at your keyboard all day long criticizing those who no longer wish to defend you.

Think Trump is going to rid your country of Muslims or some poo?

Get.A.smacking.Job.


cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

never did have much time for Americans now I have even less.

Apparently, you didn't have much time for the Australian educational system, either.

https://youtu.be/QwcRIyvPmWc

Appears the Cheeto-faced Nazi assclown many of you here have a weird, homoerotic obsession for just made the CEO who has leeched BILLIONS from American taxpayer subsidies, while also destroying the planet and made him the goddamned Secretary of State. A job which he has ZERO qualifications for, just like the idiot who appointed him.


Scratch that.. Rexxon does have one "qualification".....
http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer5/2016/12/10/7441893/7441892882061640360no.jpg

....he's BFFs with Cheeto's other BFF. Obviously, a impeachable offense.


Then...

How do you debate with StormTrumpers who literally don't even know what the bugger they are supporting? Witness this exchange from the "series of tubes"*

http://images.dailykos.com/images/347768/story_image/ACA.png
* - as the internet was called by the late Senator Ted Stevens, R - Alaska.

By definition, it cannot be irrational to have a "fear" of an irrational sociopath, leading a team of incompetents, taking over a government which not a single one of them has a smacking clue how to operate.

Impeachment is the most rational response possible, to be concerned about what sort of damage Trump could do to America which hasn't had a truly legitimate government since December 12, 2000 (yes Obama was legally elected, but he refused to reverse any of the unconstitutional things done by the Bush Criminal Empire/PNAC fraudministration which preceded him. Which effectively made him the legitimate administrator of an illegitimate government. Trump can't even make that claim, given the Russian hacking, the illegal electors, and several other crimes committed - though some of those were by Hillary and her pet Scatterbrained-Lush).


Yes, Trump is going to make America great again, isn't he?
http://i.faketrumptweet.com/424qgkoxtfi_e22y7f.png

Oh, and by thew way, Trump's approval rating is now 37% which is the lowest for any incoming president.


There will no trouble in having him impeached.

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/170113-this-week-in-trumpland_zpsu3kwrrgz.jpg

Marlene - does this thread mean you didn't vote for Trump?

Inquiring minds want to know.


http://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/31447335544_984d9ee8f8_b.jpg

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:21am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:09am: cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 6:03am: is marlon really Hills... still spitting the dummy??? I can only imagine the psychiatrists in America and making a motza...grief counselling would never have been so profitable.. its given me an amazing look at the American psyche.. I thought the way they cling to their guns was pathetic...but this terrible display of losing badly... shows the world how bloody immature the whole place really is... Please don't judge my country by obsessed loons... oh didnt know you were American... you have my sympathy.. gosh marlon is such a sore loser....did the CLinton Foundation say they would pay for all their fans shrink treatment..I can only guess dear marlon will be in treatment for a loooooooooooong time...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Here is one that's circulating around here...
The election is over, the talking is done.
Your party lost, my party won.
So let us be friends, let arguments pass.
I’ll hug my elephant, you kiss your ass

:) Hopefully the libertarians don't adopt a turkey for mascot...

AuntieM wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Here is one that's circulating around here... The election is over, the talking is done. Your party lost, my party won. So let us be friends, let arguments pass. I’ll hug my elephant, you kiss your ass :) Hopefully the libertarians don't adopt a turkey for mascot...

;D ;D ;D

There is little doubt the trainwreck will be impeached..just a matter of when...not if.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/64/b3/e7/64b3e7f98416f3ae629b4febb0d2c8dc.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-impeachment-impeached-highly-likely-us-president-elect-inauguration-us-congress-illegal-a7525761.html

"Ultimately, an impeachment of the 45th president would indicate a cataclysmic shift in the history of politics - a never-before-seen rupture between an American leader and their party."

Marla wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 3:32am:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016.

Get a life, he was elected by the people now just deal with it for 4 years.... :D

Marla wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 10:31am:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-impeachment-impeached-highly-likely-us-president-elect-inauguration-us-congress-illegal-a7525761.html "Ultimately, an impeachment of the 45th president would indicate a cataclysmic shift in the history of politics - a never-before-seen rupture between an American leader and their party."

If evidence was overwhelming, would they be compelled to do that to save themselves from voter backlash?

Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 10:42am:

Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ...

Actually, he wasn't.

He was elected by the Electoral College.

The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President.

Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact.

This is the undeniable truth.

Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly.

It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US.

I'm sure this has happened in the past as well were the popular vote by the people is defeated by the system.

Now aint that democracy at work..... ;D

Those founding fathers must have been on the turps when they wrote that sh!t...!!

Or on the oligarchies payroll....... :o

http://i68.tinypic.com/timc.jpg

http://www.bbc.com/news/election/us2016/results

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 13^th, 2017 at 6:43am:

looks like marla has a new crack pipe...  ::)

and you're still a ranga.

Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 11:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US. I'm sure this has happened in the past as well were the popular vote by the people is defeated by the system. Now aint that democracy at work..... ;D Those founding fathers must have been on the turps when they wrote that sh!t...!! Or on the oligarchies payroll....... :o http://i68.tinypic.com/timc.jpg http://www.bbc.com/news/election/us2016/results

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Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 11:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US.

I'm not disputing any of that.

I'm just saying that he was not elected by the people.

I know how their system works, and I accept the result of this election.

However, more people - that voted - wanted Clinton as their POTUS.

America is not getting the President the people voted for.

The people wanted Clinton.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:35pm:

Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 11:15am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US. I'm not disputing any of that. I'm just saying that he was not elected by the people. I know how their system works, and I accept the result of this election. However, more people - that voted - wanted Clinton as their POTUS. America is not getting the President the people voted for. The people wanted Clinton.

In this case I'm glad democracy failed.

Clinton = WW3................imo

She was determined to prove to the world and her gynaecologist wrong, that she indeed did have a miniscule set of testis hanging under her clitoris........... :P

Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 12:35pm: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 11:15am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US. I'm not disputing any of that. I'm just saying that he was not elected by the people. I know how their system works, and I accept the result of this election. However, more people - that voted - wanted Clinton as their POTUS. America is not getting the President the people voted for. The people wanted Clinton. In this case I'm glad democracy failed.

And now, innocent people are going to pay.

As much as anyone may dislike Clinton, and that includes me, Trump is a hundred times worse.

Hopefully he won't do too much damage in his two years in office.

Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

In this case I'm glad democracy failed.

America isn't now, nor was it ever, a democracy.

It's a Constitutional Republic..............democratic in basic principal, but governed absolutely by laws written within the United Stares Constitution, not by a majority choice or will of a majority of people.

When Americans refer to democracy, they speak to American Democracy.....America's Brand of Democracy....not the Democracy devised originally by the Greeks. That confuses most non-Americans, & some uneducated Americans alike.

So, in the end, nothing failed whatsoever....................it worked exactly according the U.S. Constitution, as it has for every election in American History, since George Washington, the commander of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, was unanimously elected the first president of the United States by all 69 presidential electors who cast their votes in 1789

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:35pm:

Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 11:15am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US. I'm not disputing any of that. I'm just saying that he was not elected by the people. I know how their system works, and I accept the result of this election. However, more people - that voted - wanted Clinton as their POTUS. America is not getting the President the people voted for. The people wanted Clinton.

No. The people didn't want Clinton. Certain urban sections of California and New York wanted Clinton. Plus about 4 million ballots with no identification...

AuntieM wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 12:35pm: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 11:15am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:51am: Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 10:42am: Marla wrote on Jan 13th, 2017 at 3:32am: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-guilty-treason-four-ways-electoral-college-intelligence-russian-election-hacking-a7484751.html * He is trying to solidify the political standing before the electoral college vote, which is set to happen on Monday December 19. * He wants to undermine the US intelligence agencies that conducted the investigation so that he may intimidate them or shape them to fit his own agendas. * He’s testing US intelligence agencies to see how far he can push back against their investigations or findings. * He could be covering up any possible involvement or knowledge he or his team had in regards to the Russian cyberattack. Trump for impeachment in 2016. Get a life, he was elected by the people ... Actually, he wasn't. He was elected by the Electoral College. The people - those who voted - wanted Clinton as their President. Almost 3,000,000 more, in fact. This is the undeniable truth. Repeating lies like "the people elected him" just makes you, and everyone else who says it, look very silly. It's their system Greg, they set it up like that and that's how it works since there has been a president of the US. I'm not disputing any of that. I'm just saying that he was not elected by the people. I know how their system works, and I accept the result of this election. However, more people - that voted - wanted Clinton as their POTUS. America is not getting the President the people voted for. The people wanted Clinton. No. The people didn't want Clinton.

Yes, they most certainly did.

More people voted for Clinton than any other candidate.

She received almost 3,000,000 more votes than the runner up, Donald Trump.

This is an undeniable fact.

Why you, and others, can't accept it is a real mystery.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 1:14pm:

No. The people didn't want Clinton. Certain urban sections of California and New York wanted Clinton. Plus about 4 million ballots with no identification...

@AuntieM   Stop......it makes no difference.....Let that asshole Greggy run on with his verbal diarrhea......His sole purpose in life is to eat & stir sh!t....that's it.......breathing is secondary to him.....

We all know.....you know....America voted, & the American Constitutional Process - intact since adopting the Constitution in 1788 - declared that Donald J. Trump is America's 45th President-Elect by the rules contained within said Constitution.....majority popular vote or not.......& in 6 short days he will be President Donald J Trump, President of the United States of America............end of story....fineto.....full stop.....the end....period....absolutely & completely settled.   They can shove their democracy rants up their flatulating asses ..... The Constitution, the Law of the Land, reins Supreme in the United States of America! May God Bless America.

Did anyone else miss Panther's absurd rants?

Ajax wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

In this case I'm glad democracy failed.

It needn't have failed or succeeded, the US is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy the way we think about it

US Constitutional law takes precedence over voting trends, majority or minority. Our written law of preferential voting does the same thing

For anyone to say that the majority of the voters who voted, wanted Clinton as president, would be unwittingly or wittingly approving of a "First Past The Post" election system, which neither the US or Australia has adopted, Even preferential voting wouldn't satisfy these people because if Clinton had won an "Australian" style primary vote, she still could have lost on preferences. I'm reminded of an example here where Hanson lost to Boswell in Qld. Hanson won the primary vote but didn't win the seat

So therefore, given that our preferential voting system does a similar job to the US Electoral College, First Past The Post voting is the only system that would've allowed Clinton to win and become President

Preferential voting can wipe out a majority vote in Australia, and the Electoral College can wipe out a majority vote in the United States

First Past The Post voting, anyone?






Marla wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Did anyone else miss Panther's absurd rants?

Your self-valued opinion is always welcome to those that want it, for it comes from you....it belongs to you, & it is worth defending....because it's yours.......no better or worse than anyone else's. http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/hatsoff.gif


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Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 12:41pm: In this case I'm glad democracy failed. It needn't have failed or succeeded, the US is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy the way we think about it US Constitutional law takes precedence over voting trends, majority or minority. Our written law of preferential voting does the same thing For anyone to say that the majority of the voters who voted, wanted Clinton as president, would be unwittingly or wittingly approving of a "First Past The Post" election system, which neither the US or Australia has adopted, Even preferential voting wouldn't satisfy these people because if Clinton had won an "Australian" style primary vote, she still could have lost on preferences. I'm reminded of an example here where Hanson lost to Boswell in Qld. Hanson won the primary vote but didn't win the seat So therefore, given that our preferential voting system does a similar job to the US Electoral College, First Past The Post voting is the only system that would've allowed Clinton to win and become President Preferential voting can wipe out a majority vote in Australia, and the Electoral College can wipe out a majority vote in the United States First Past The Post voting, anyone? 

First Past The Post voting  "Mob Rule", anyone?


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