Quote:

'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day
He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems.

Don't we all?

12 years on the dole ...

I'd have him back at work so fast his head would spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist.

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I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia.

This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia. This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter.

Have you had your virgin girlfriend raped within earshot while you were tied up and unable to do anything? I think I'd rather be shot.

Does any one know how to decipher Sentatas posts or is it just sinsemilla talk.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Does any one know how to decipher Sentatas posts or is it just sinsemilla talk.

Definitely the latter. Damned hippies! ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

Quote: 'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems. Don't we all? 12 years on the dole ...

The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train.  8-)

WN wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:30am:

The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train.  8-)

As a matter of fact someone in Canberra (Morrison?) was saying only recently that all those thousands of people on Disability Support Pension for dodgy and unprovable conditions such as 'depression' would soon be getting a very strict reviewing of their cases any day now. This announcement must have thrown 'South West Sydney' into panic mode, but so far no gunfire has been heard down that way ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:42am:

WN wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 7:30am: The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train.  8-) As a matter of fact someone in Canberra (Morrison?) was saying only recently that all those thousands of people on Disability Support Pension for dodgy and unprovable conditions such as 'depression' would soon be getting a very strict reviewing of their cases any day now. This announcement must have thrown 'South West Sydney' into panic mode, but so far no gunfire has been heard down that way ...

It's easy to beat a review if you get reports from specialists. A good sob story and they're only too happy to write a heart rending letter of support.  :)

WN wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

It's easy to beat a review if you get reports from specialists. A good sob story and they're only too happy to write a heart rending letter of support.  :)

;D ;D ;D

Too late for me now! I'm retired! Why didn't you tell me sooner?!

Setanta wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:31pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia. This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter. Have you had your virgin girlfriend raped within earshot while you were tied up and unable to do anything? I think I'd rather be shot.

Being tied up whilst your girlfriend is being raped is fairly traumatising. But you would get over it. Had that man been shot in some kind of botched robbery, he would probably be crying more foul. He is using his girlfriend's death as a reason to milk the system. For 5 years, it would be understandable to be unable to work. But even that 4th and 5th-year aftermath, you would be in the recovery well enough to work somewhere.

Between the ages of 8 and 26, I was subjected to various forms of abuse. This ranged from sexual abuse, to robbery, to being assaulted by adults, to threats of violence by adults because they are more interested in siding with a criminal than a child. When I turned 18, people exacerbated the attacks against me. Racial attacks. The attempted murder. I was run down by someone who could not get her facts straight. A knife was held to my throat. My bank account had been robbed by fraudsters, because the bank could not give a **** about getting proper identity confirmation. My identity was stolen by some narcissist -- pity he did not know about the death threats against me and ended up copping some of what I was getting. Oh, and some drug dealers have recently decided to make things difficult for me trying to blackmail me into getting them drugs -- or else. I guess they did not get the memo that I don't have any say in drug trafficking.

So, here I am working anywhere from 20 to 40 hours a week, after a couple decades of these sporadic attacks against me. My post traumatic experience is slowly fading, though I could relapse if put into certain situations. But for me, I was expected to be recovered after 6 months off from work. I really have no pity for someone 12 years after the death of their friend from moping about on welfare. If I don't expect to receive some sympathy now, neither should he.

Life is harsh.
Can we accept this as a factual statement

Life is unfair.
Can we accept this as a factual statement.

no matter how many insurance policies you take out.
no matter how much your mummy loved you and tried to  present a false reality of what the world is like, at some stage you need to man up and see reality for what it is.

Things are NEVER going to go your way.
A superior man DELIGHTS in the fact that he can remain emotionally grounded, on point and true to his rock solid core , whether things go his way or not.

If you are incapable of ,at least aiming to develop the emotional mastery to remain stable despite the BS that is thrown at you, then you need to face the reality that you are a pussy.

Now, does this mean we kick people who are down, when they are down and get some sadistic pleasure out of seeing them suffer?

of course not.

But we acknowledge a universal truth.

When you are confronted with pain, you either identify with the pain and become a victim or you learn a lesson about life and you grow.
When you are confronted with problems (and everybody will be) you either become a cry baby about your problems and you go down, or you use your problems to provide the emotional juice to go up and you see a problem as an opportunity.

i totally "get" why people feel self pity.
But you need to just have a personal boundary so strong, that you will never let that sh*t in.
You can let it in if you want, but what happens....you go down.

This guy could have taken a lesson in lifes reality and gone up.
he could have hit the gym, become a black belt in martial arts, he could have ridden the tube, kicking the ass of anyone who attacked an innocent human, he could have gone into contribution and higher consciousness.
he could have devoted himself to contribution.

he chose not to.

the do-gooders are simply enabling these bad decisions.

If a government runs programs like "work for the dole" or "boot camps " and they are run with the right motivation. to stop people feeling self pity and to encourage them to move into a higher consciousness and a world bigger then their own "feeling butt hurt" "mental purgatory", then anyone who opposes this is a hateful prick who wants to feed off the suffering of people who need a "gentle" kick up the ass

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy.

It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her.

Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc.

It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence.

In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment.

So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky.

There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life.

Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does.

Perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a vagina in exactly the same way as a lover does.

I'm honestly speechless.

And this, Herbie, is why people call you a troll.

You are disgusting.

Now don't go 'hysterical' on me, Mothra, I'm just experimenting with taking an unconventional view on this. It's what Institutes of Learning do to better educate their students to learn how to think outside the square.

The UK judge really did say that, and the pages of history are littered with ISIS/Yazidis encounters, and Muslim/Cologne incidences.

Apart from Shock/Horror - do you have anything intelligent to say?

Do I really have to say that I believe unauthorised sex to be repugnant and unlawful?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/4893530-4177936078-image.jpg

Instead of going back to Play School on this, how about you respond with a little intelligence and a little less petulance and ADHD on this?

Leave Play School to the likes of Gregg and John Smith.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 11:12am:

Instead of going back to Play School on this, how about you respond with a little intelligence and a little less petulance and ADHD on this? Leave Play School to the likes of Gregg and John Smith.

Nothing you said is worthy of intelligent reply.

mothra wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

Nothing you said is worthy of intelligent reply.

I'm not advocating anything here except for a more realistic view of non-consensual vaginal sex between a man and a woman, and how a priest buggering the rectum of a small boy is infinitely a more atrocious and appalling act from every perspective.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating.

https://inspirationfeeeed.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/troll.jpg

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

Quote: 'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems. Don't we all? 12 years on the dole ... I'd have him back at work so fast his head would spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist. link

A more powerful read is his then girlfriend's recovery and life's achievements.........one of many links....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Saward

Alinta wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

A more powerful read is his then girlfriend's recovery and life's achievements.........one of many links.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Saward

Good input Alinta. I'm glad to see you're not balking at the hard ones as some chose to do.

The penalty for rape given by the judge in the Saward case demonstrates very clearly that it is very much a matter of subjective and cultural perspective that determines the degree of severity that is considered appropriate to fit the crime.

It's not a one-size-fits-all consideration.

Adrian Bayley, the rapist who attacked Jill Meagher in Melbourne was swanning around on parole after two previous convictions for rape, which once again demonstrates a leniency on the part of the presiding judges during his earlier trials.

There was no "Shock! Horror! - He deserves decades in jail for those rapes!"

Not a bit of it. There he was, unsupervised and back to his old habits again.

What has the guy's girlfriend's traumatic experience of rape and murder got to do with that guy not getting a job for the last 7 years?

Setanta wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:31pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia. This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter. Have you had your virgin girlfriend raped within earshot while you were tied up and unable to do anything? I think I'd rather be shot.

I gather he and her father were both beaten very badly, as well.  However, I agree.  I believe enduring something on your own, as horrible as it is, is not nearly as difficult as being unable to save someone you love.

mothra wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating.

I can't read that without wanting to vomit.  Excuse me.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

Quote: 'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems. Don't we all? 12 years on the dole ... I'd have him back at work so fast his head would spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist. link

Have some compassion - it's a genuine case:


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he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder, which he believes is a result of the brain injuries he suffered in the attack.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:00am:

Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....

Give me a break!

This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen.

Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and seen a lot worse than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 4:19am:

mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 12:00pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating. I can't read that without wanting to vomit.  Excuse me.

I do excuse you. It's 'confronting' isn't it?

Did you also want to vomit while reading all those reports of priests buggering small boys?

No?

I didn't think so.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:00am: Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....    Give me a break! This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen. Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and seen a lot more going on than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers.

herbert, i think you are , perhaps, playing devils advocate.
this would indeed be a very traumatic event to go thru.

my daughter was pinned under a car and badly injured and she passed out from being unable to breath and she spent several weeks in hospital. after this , she became quite PTSD and i had to think about this situation.

My feeling is that the current psychologist treatment is harmful and also that sitting and dwelling on something is harmful.

what we think about or talk about creates synaptic highways in our brain.
if you want to end up fearful, then just replay that old record over and over and over and you will build a highway in your brain that just moves all your thoughts down it. and you will have a dirt road to confidence.

this is why i say dont think self pitying thoughts and dont go to counsellors and talk about the "bad stuff" over and over as you are just putting more lanes on your highway to unhappiness.

Process orientation is the answer.

skiing is an example of process orientation.

there is not point to skiing , you just go up a hill and back down, but the "process" allows "focus" and this builds "confidence"" and gets rid of "cortisol and adrenaline".

really, the best thing this guy could have done is get a job that he enjoyed where he was focusing on that and just moved on.

But people do so love their pain (or they love building those highways). and the victimhood industry love being paid to pour the concrete that allows the victim to build more and more lanes to unhappiness.

truly they are all  crazy to do this and it just wrecks lives

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:45am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 4:19am: mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 12:00pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating. I can't read that without wanting to vomit.  Excuse me. I do excuse you. It's 'confronting' isn't it? Did you also want to vomit while reading all those reports of priests buggering small boys? No? I didn't think so.

Well, then you just proved yourself as a wrong-thinker again, I guess.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:00am: Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....    Give me a break! This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen. Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and a lot worse than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers.

Yes. Countless men have returned from wars having experienced a lot worse.  And some of them have gone on to do well.  My father did, luckily.  And some of them are never quite as well as they were before.  And some of them end up killing themselves.

This guy was a young man sitting in his girlfriend's family's home, watching TV, and he was victimized.  He didn't have the benefit of 13 weeks of basic training and weapons training and the mental preparation for what was going to happen.  As it turned out, she went on to survive better than he did.  Obviously she was stronger.

Some of us have stronger survival skills than others.  I'm not saying that this man represents a successful survivor of his experience.  He's weak.

The difference between us is you seem to hate him for being weak, and I just find him sad. 

Never mind Herbie. He's a tired racist bigot who listens to other old men (when not the voices in his head) who tell him what to think which as you can gather isn't much.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:45am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 4:19am: mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 12:00pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating. I can't read that without wanting to vomit.  Excuse me. I do excuse you. It's 'confronting' isn't it? Did you also want to vomit while reading all those reports of priests buggering small boys? No? I didn't think so.

again Herb.
priests buggering boys is "bad stuff".
but if you identify with the "bad stuff"
if you have counsellors make you lie on a couch and talk about the "bad stuff"
if you sit there glued to the reports from the royal commision on the "bad stuff", then you are building connections in your brain that are totally focused on the "bad stuff" and your brain will just replay it over and over.
People need to understand the power of positive thinking and the power of negative thinking and they need to understand that emotional states are very very addictive and the brain WANTS to keep going back to them.

Its tough to be buggered by a priest and then just put it behind you and power on to have an awesome life.

But if you join victims groups, think about your pain all day and dont follow the very well understood processes that lead to success in life then YOU will have a sh*t life.

They love to poo poo my self help advice.
If i said that people who have been thru trauma should do 20 minutes of gratitude meditation every day and think about all the positive things in their life, i will undoubtedly get the usual haters posting pics of a horse taking a dump.

but do the leftie haters and do-gooders actually help improve lives?
Or are they just using people in pain as pawns to build careers and pay off their mortgages. i feel the whole victimhood industry is simply a scam

Well said, Aquascoot.

There are no habits more compelling than bad habits, and negative-thinking is right up there among the worst of habits.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 4:19am:

mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 12:00pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Just thought that Herbie's sentiments in full bore repeating. I can't read that without wanting to vomit.  Excuse me.

It's not you requiring excusing AuntieM.

It is Herbert. But, alas, he's too busy trolling.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 4:17am:

I gather he and her father were both beaten very badly, as well.  However, I agree.  I believe enduring something on your own, as horrible as it is, is not nearly as difficult as being unable to save someone you love.

As awful as it was, I don't for a moment believe this young fellow was so shattered and psychologically damaged as to be unfit for any kind of work for a whole 12 years afterwards. And it was only his girlfriend : Not his mother, sister, or daughter.

At age 12 my mother stood on the deck of a ship waving to her parents on the wharf below, and then witnessed them both being killed before her eyes.

Thereafter nobody gave her a special dispensation to live off other people's earnings as a victim of the School of Hard Knocks.

That's not how it worked in those days. It was a case of 'stiff upper-lip' and you hauled yourself out of self-pity and 'Tallyhoo!' - off you went to meet your future in the best way you could. The last thing you did was flop back into the foetal position and ask society to fund your indolent lifestyle.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:08am:

Well, then you just proved yourself as a wrong-thinker again, I guess.

I'm experimenting with ideas here, AunieM, to see where it leads us. What I've been saying is not set in concrete. Stay flexible and don't be afraid to venture outside the square on experimental forays into the Twilight Zone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

A reminder.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:35am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 4:17am: I gather he and her father were both beaten very badly, as well.  However, I agree.  I believe enduring something on your own, as horrible as it is, is not nearly as difficult as being unable to save someone you love. As awful as it was, I don't for a moment believe this young fellow was so shattered and psychologically damaged as to be unfit for any kind of work for a whole 12 years afterwards. And it was only his girlfriend : Not his mother, sister, or daughter. At age 12 my mother stood on the deck of a ship waving to her parents on the wharf below, and then witnessed them both being killed before her eyes. Thereafter nobody gave her a special dispensation to live off other people's earnings as a victim of the School of Hard Knocks. That's not how it worked in those days. It was a case of 'stiff upper-lip' and you hauled yourself out of self-pity and 'Tallyhoo!' - off you went to meet your future in the best way you could. The last thing you did was flop back into the foetal position and ask society to fund your indolent lifestyle.

I'm sorry your mother went through that.  My mother-in-law watched her brothers thrown into a well when the Nazis decided their village was aiding the resistance.  She survived, as well.   I imagine some who weren't as strong, simply gave up and died.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:14am:

This guy was a young man sitting in his girlfriend's family's home, watching TV, and he was victimized.  He didn't have the benefit of 13 weeks of basic training and weapons training and the mental preparation for what was going to happen.

This is the Achilles Heel of your post. It's where reality ends and fantasy begins. There is no preparation for combat experience except combat experience itself.


AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Some of us have stronger survival skills than others.  I'm not saying that this man represents a successful survivor of his experience. He's weak.

Rather than him being 'weak', I think it's more the case of it being the times we live in, and how The Nanny State and its myriad professional handmaidens have created a comfortable niche for people like him to claim Victimhood from at others expense ... year after year after year.

And what does it say about all those 'professional' medicos such as psychologists and psychiatrists who given a full 12 years have still not yet been able to shift him into even the easiest and least demanding of jobs? Taxi driver, etc. What it says is that the mental health 'professionals' are even more inept and pathetic than their patients.


AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:14am:

The difference between us is you seem to hate him for being weak, and I just find him sad.

What I 'hate' is when The Nanny State acts as apologist for people like this - and our Aborigines - to the extent that it deprives them of a real life if only they could be weaned off the government's teat.

herb, you are a dickhead

Ah, well when you're talking about whole groups of people, you're talking about failed social engineering.
Here in the US, black families have been destroyed by 40-50 years of Federal government policies that have demoralized black men as fathers and husbands, marginalized the importance of parents on their children, and created a hostile environment for black Americans.
The economist Thomas Sowell has written very well -- and at great length -- on this subject.
"Dismantling America" is a particularly good -- and chilling -- essay.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:06am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 7:14am: This guy was a young man sitting in his girlfriend's family's home, watching TV, and he was victimized.  He didn't have the benefit of 13 weeks of basic training and weapons training and the mental preparation for what was going to happen. This is the Achilles Heel of your post. It's where reality ends and fantasy begins. There is no preparation for combat experience except combat experience itself. AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 7:14am: Some of us have stronger survival skills than others.  I'm not saying that this man represents a successful survivor of his experience. He's weak. Rather than him being 'weak', I think it's more the case of it being the times we live in, and how The Nanny State and its myriad professional handmaidens have created a comfortable niche for people like him to claim Victimhood from at others expense ... year after year after year. And what does it say about all those 'professional' medicos such as psychologists and psychiatrists who given a full 12 years have still not yet been able to shift him into even the easiest and least demanding of jobs? Taxi driver, etc. What it says is that the mental health 'professionals' are even more inept and pathetic than their patients. AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 7:14am: The difference between us is you seem to hate him for being weak, and I just find him sad.  What I 'hate' is when The Nanny State acts as apologist for people like this - and our Aborigines - to the extent that it deprives them of a real life if only they could be weaned off the government's teat.

Yes. Herbert really said all of that.

http://www.troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/im-not-saying-youre-a-troll-but-youre-a-troll.jpg

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men.

Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something.

The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war.

Indeed, Gordon, rape of a community's women is used as an act of war, isn't it?
Just look at what Daesh and Boko Haram have been doing...demoralizing cultural groups by raping, enslaving and mutilating their women.

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:15am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men. Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something. The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war.

Yes of course. Rape is all about men and how they feel.

mothra wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. A reminder.

Sounds ominous.

;D

To be fair, mothra, although your pithy observation had teeth...Gordon also hit on something. 
It's long been a tactic of war, to demoralize the men of the opposing side, by raping and enslaving their mothers, wives and daughters...

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:20am:

To be fair, mothra, although your pithy observation had teeth...Gordon also hit on something.  It's long been a tactic of war, to demoralize the men of the opposing side, by raping and enslaving their mothers, wives and daughters...

That's hardly what we are talking about now,though is it.

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Ah, well when you're talking about whole groups of people, you're talking about failed social engineering. Here in the US, black families have been destroyed by 40-50 years of Federal government policies that have demoralized black men as fathers and husbands, marginalized the importance of parents on their children, and created a hostile environment for black Americans. The economist Thomas Sowell has written very well -- and at great length -- on this subject. "Dismantling America" is a particularly good -- and chilling -- essay.

It's a constant refrain of mine : Why O Why did successive administrations encourage generations of South Americans to migrate to the US to replace America's blacks in the workplace?

mothra wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:15am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men. Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something. The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war. Yes of course. Rape is all about men and how they feel.

I didn't say that now did I. Not to far back in history nobody gave 2 craps how a woman felt about being raped. It was all about mens honour.

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:17am: Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:15am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men. Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something. The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war. Yes of course. Rape is all about men and how they feel. I didn't say that now did I. Not to far back in history nobody gave 2 craps how a woman felt about being raped. It was all about mens honour.

Rape never had anything to do with men's "honour".

And i think you will find significant proportions of the population had plenty to say say about rape.

Anonymous was a woman.

I know you would like to think that men wrote all of history but that just simply is not true.

mothra wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:34am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:28am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:17am: Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:15am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men. Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something. The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war. Yes of course. Rape is all about men and how they feel. I didn't say that now did I. Not to far back in history nobody gave 2 craps how a woman felt about being raped. It was all about mens honour. Rape never had anything to do with men;s "honour". And i think you will fin significant proportions of the population had plenty to say say about rape. Anonymous was a woman. I know you would like to think that men wrote all f history but that just simply is not true.

the societal response to rape was dictated by men.

They raped our women. Let's go kill them and rape their women.

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:40am:

mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:34am: Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:28am: mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:17am: Gordon wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:15am: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:15am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 3:29pm: I have had things worse than this guy. It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her. Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc. It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence. In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment. So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky. There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life. Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does. Perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Rape has been raised to nearly the worst status of crime by men. Men have a biological imperative to prevent other men from impregnating their women, so when bigger uglier hairier men from the other valley take a woman by force it's something. The fear of women being raped is still a clarion call for war. Yes of course. Rape is all about men and how they feel. I didn't say that now did I. Not to far back in history nobody gave 2 craps how a woman felt about being raped. It was all about mens honour. Rape never had anything to do with men;s "honour". And i think you will fin significant proportions of the population had plenty to say say about rape. Anonymous was a woman. I know you would like to think that men wrote all f history but that just simply is not true. the societal response to rape was dictated by men. They raped our women. Let's go kill them and rape their women.

Indeed. Haven'r men done well?

And you all complain long and hard about a few decades of feminism.

Well that shut everyone up, didn"t it.

Gordon wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:40am:

... the societal response to rape was dictated by men. They raped our women. Let's go kill them and rape their women.

Non-consensual sex has always been not only a strategy for demoralising the enemy, but as a carrot to further motivate men in war.

When Stalin's well-disciplined professional front-line soldiers began getting further into German territory they began to warn the local women to hide themselves from the Asiatic hordes who were coming up behind them as a poorly-disciplined bunch of savages. 

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 6:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:00am: Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....    Give me a break! This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen. Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and seen a lot worse than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers.

See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat.


You'd be right down at Centerlink claiming every penny.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 3:47pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:41am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:00am: Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....    Give me a break! This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen. Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and seen a lot worse than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers. See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat. You'd be right down at Centerlink claiming every penny.

Oh, he already is, Bobby.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 3:47pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:41am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:00am: Have some compassion - it's a genuine case: Quote: he has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and bipolar disorder ....    Give me a break! This snowflake has turned a bad situation into a life-long excuse to avoid carrying his own weight. He's turned his story into a Victimhood Industry money-earner as a professional drama queen. Countless men have returned from combat situations where they've heard and seen a lot worse than a girlfriend being forced to have involuntary intercourse with some strangers. See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat. You'd be right down at Centerlink claiming every penny.

Bobby, you may be interested in listening to him.....google Youtube Journeyman David Kerr ...

mothra wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 8:20am: To be fair, mothra, although your pithy observation had teeth...Gordon also hit on something.  It's long been a tactic of war, to demoralize the men of the opposing side, by raping and enslaving their mothers, wives and daughters... That's hardly what we are talking about now,though is it.

Now come on Mothra - be fair.  8-)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 3:47pm:

See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat.

Worse than that I had my eye orbit smashed with a fast cricket ball that put me in hospital for four days.

And then it was "Up and at 'em again".

And no, I didn't have any unauthorised sex with the nurses.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 3:47pm: See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat. Worse than that I had my eye orbit smashed with a fast cricket ball that put me in hospital for four days. And then it was "Up and at 'em again". And no, I didn't have any unauthorised sex with the nurses.

Just guessing.  Was that when, at 19 years of age, your were a Senior Officer with the London Metropolitan Police?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 3:47pm: See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat. Worse than that I had my eye orbit smashed with a fast cricket ball that put me in hospital for four days. And then it was "Up and at 'em again". And no, I didn't have any unauthorised sex with the nurses.

How much brain damage did you suffer?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 10^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2017 at 3:47pm: See how you would survive if you were hit on the head with a cricket bat. Worse than that I had my eye orbit smashed with a fast cricket ball that put me in hospital for four days. And then it was "Up and at 'em again". And no, I didn't have any unauthorised sex with the nurses.

 

Herb , if the cricket ball had proved fatal, at least they could say that you had a good innings

aquascoot wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 6:29am:

Herb , if the cricket ball had proved fatal, at least they could say that you had a good innings

Holy horseSHIT! That's terrible at this early time of the morning when I haven't yet anaethetised myself with half-a-dozen cups of caffeine!