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Title: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 5:59am
Top Five Vote-Getters in American History:
69,498,516—Obama—2008 65,915,795—Obama—2012 65,844,610—Hillary—2016 62,979,636—Trump—2016 62,040,610—Bush—2004 Percentage of Popular Vote by Winners of Past Five Elections: 52.9%—Obama—2008 51.1%—Obama—2012 50.7%—Bush—2004 47.9%—Bush—2000 46.0%—Trump—2016 Sometimes Bush is last, sometimes Trump is last. But President Obama is always first. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by bogarde73 on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:07am
This would explain why optimism & confidence are surging to an unprecedented level now that he's leaving the building
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:14am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:07am:
Bogey, always the loser. Yes, the Trump honeymoon has begun - as it should. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by bogarde73 on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:19am
AiA & friends, always in denial. You represent a failed philosophy and a failed agenda. Failure all down the line.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:38am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:19am:
au contraire. had Obama been given the chance, he would have won a 3rd term ... easily. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by aquascoot on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:51am
obama played a very weak sauce game.
he was a validation seeking man whose direction in life appeared to be to "cope" with being president. he looked like he just wanted to survive the 8 years without being destroyed. surviving not "thriving". its the default position of the beta male and totally understandable from an evolutionary psych position. if you risk something and it goes bad (say you try to get a juicy peice of meat off the tiger)...then you are dead. but if you dont risk it, you miss out on the opportunity but you are still alive and tomorrow there might be another opportunity (which you will also miss as you are now motivated more by fear of taking action, then by the reward of taking action). its why so many beta males just talk and talk and talk...there is no risk. its basicly a gutless and mediocre way to live life. even better to just talk to your similarly weak beta male comrades...now there is no risk, you wont ever have to deal with anyone disliking you. its about as mature as a 5 yo at day care or a 12 yo putting a pick on facebook.pweeese, pweeese, be nice. pweese, pweese be my fweeend its very feminine , its very weak, its very Barak ;) |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 7:59am
AiA, I believe you've fallen on the worst set of statistcs to make you're case. A presidential candidate gaining under 70 million votes in a country were there are 240 million people of voting age is nothing to rave about.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a WHINER & a Loser Post by Fireball on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 8:06am
The left can never lose graciously, same all over including America.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 8:15am
a different result can be reached by comparing raw numbers to total population:
69,498,516 out of 304 million = 22.86%—Obama—2008 62,040,610 out of 293 million = 21.17%—Bush—2004 65,915,795 out of 314 million = 20.99%—Obama—2012 65,844,610 out of 324 million = 20.32%—Hillary—2016 62,979,636 out of 324 million = 19.43%—Trump—2016 But nine ways to Sunday, President Obama is first and Trump is last. I'm pretty sure it says so in the Bible |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 8:27am
Twenty two percent? You're seriously happy with that figure?
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 10:01am Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 8:27am:
Reality always makes me happy. And that includes a Trump presidency. Life is too short for what should be but isn't ... |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:04am
Following your argument, AiA. The reality of AIDS, pedophilia, terrorism, pollution, political corruption...these things make you HAPPY? Strange!
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:47am Obama = most wars Quote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/some-2-500-americans-have-died-in-afghanistan-and-iraq-under-obama-20160530 |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:49am Obama = most debt Quote:
https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293 |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 12:31pm obama = most junkies Quote:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-obama-legacy-a-raging-problem-with-heroin-and-opioids/article/2601312 |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 12:34pm obama = biggest wages loss Quote:
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/you-making-more-than-you-were-four-years-ago/ |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 12:38pm
Those realities should make AiA happy.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by bogarde73 on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:31pm
As Newt Gingrich said yesterday, in a year Obama will be forgotten. A mistake that America made but one that President Trump can soon clean up.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Unforgiven on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:57pm bogarde73 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:07am:
Trump is already leaving? Has Putin commanded him to exile in Russia? |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Unforgiven on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 2:00pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:49am:
So George W Bush was responsible for the other $ 13+ Trillion? |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Richdude on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 3:47pm bogarde73 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:
Gingrich is a straight shooter. Obama will go down in history as an embarrassment. Even before Trump takes office he is making Obama look impotent. I mean - what did this puppet do in 8 years beside add a 3rd bathroom in the WH? |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Unforgiven on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 5:05pm Richdude wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 3:47pm:
Gingrich is one of the Washington swamp creatures. He's a loser that has failed several attempts to qualify as GOP POTUS candidate. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Panther on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 5:23pm Richdude wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 3:47pm:
He's single-handedly guaranteed, fo all time, dat no other NEGRO demonrat will eva be 'lected Presidin.... Then again, da KingFish migh hav a chance! ;) |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 8:55pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 7:59am:
Why play with your imaginary numbers Mr Hammer? They don't exist. Mine do. What's not to like about real numbers? They have no alternative. Like these: Trump's Electoral vote victory ranks 46th out of 58 elections. His popular vote margin ranks 47th in the last 49 elections. Yet Trump claims he won in a landslide. You see, Trump lives in a world of imaginary numbers, like you Mr. Hammer. Numbers that can be as big or as small ... as you like. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/18/us/elections/donald-trump-electoral-college-popular-vote.html?_r=1 Obama's numbers make him a winner. And that is a fact. Just like Trump being the next president is a fact, and I can always live with facts. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 9:28pm
You've obviously made your mind up. Good for you.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by mortdooley on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 10:45pm
‘Legacy’: 10 Ways Barack Obama Broke the American System"
1. The stimulus. On the campaign trail, Obama promised a $50 billion stimulus and criticized George W. Bush for building up the national debt. In office, Obama passed a nearly $1 trillion stimulus, over Republican objections, that failed to keep unemployment from below 8% (as promised), and went largely to pet projects and state and local governments. The profligate spending shocked voters who feared that the country was now on an irreversible path to fiscal ruin. The Tea Party was born. 2. Fast and Furious. The Obama administration smuggled guns across the Mexican border, ostensibly to trace them to drug cartels. Unlike the Bush administration’s Wide Receiver, Obama’s Operation Fast and Furious happened without the Mexican government’s knowledge. The likely goal was to create a pretext for reducing gun ownership in the U.S. It led to the murders of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and hundreds of Mexicans. Afterwards, Obama used “executive privilege” to cover it up. 3. Betraying allies. Obama picked public fights with Israel in a deliberate effort to establish “distance” between the allies. He also broke agreements with the Czechs and the Poles on missile defense, infamously informing the Polish prime minister on the 70th anniversary of the Katyn Massacre. He snubbed the British in ways small (returning a Churchill bust) and big (using the Argentinian term “Malvinas” for the Falklands). And he spied on foreign allies, including Germany’s Angela Merkel. 4. Obamacare. The sweeping plan for “universal” health insurance sought, fundamentally, to make individuals dependent on the state, the better to open the door to even more sweeping changes. But it was the process of passing the bill that caused the real damage. To pass Obamacare, Obama bent and broke procedural rules; lied, repeatedly, about the policy; disguised a tax as a fee; and bullied the Supreme Court into compliance. It was the first major entitlement passed without bipartisan support. 5. Debt ceiling. Few of the Republicans who rode the Tea Party wave in 2010 made an issue out of the debt ceiling. But the Obama administration believed that a confrontation would help it regain full control of Congress. So it picked a fight over the debt, and forced a confrontation in the summer of 2011 that brought the country to the brink of default. Obama scuttled a “grand bargain” with Republicans by demanding higher taxes. The result: a hated budget “sequester” and a credit downgrade. 6. Benghazi. Presidents had lied to the country before about national security incidents: the Iran-Contra scandal, for example, left a stain on Ronald Reagan’s legacy. But no previous American president had abandoned Americans to die abroad without putting up a fight or making a serious effort to punish the perpetrators. In fact, in the heat of battle, Obama went to sleep and flew to a political fundraiser in Las Vegas the next day. It was an unprecedented abdication of his commander-in-chief role. 7. IRS scandal. Encouraged by Obama’s attacks on “dark money” and conservative political donors, the Internal Revenue Service began singling out conservative non-profit organizations for excessive scrutiny, denying them the ability to operate during the crucial 2012 elections, and trying to pry loose private information on their donors, their meetings, and even the content of their prayers. To this day, no Obama administration official has been punished for that horrific abuse of power. 8. AP scandal. Despite the media’s ongoing love affair with Obama, the administration targeted journalists for harassment, surveillance and prosecution. In one case, the Department of Justice seized phone records from the Associated Press; in another, the DOJ searched the emails of Fox News reporter James Rosen and his family. Congress later found Attorney General Eric Holder misled it when he told them in May 2013 he had not been involved in potential prosecution of the media. 9. Iran deal. After resisting sanctions on Iran, and holding off on any real action against the Iranian regime when it faced mass protests in 2009, Obama made a deal with Iran in 2015 that removed most sanctions in exchange for a mere temporary slowdown in the Iranian nuclear program. Worse, he refused to submit it to the Senate for ratification in accordance with the Constitution’s Treaty Clause, and Democrats blocked a weaker effort to submit the deal to an overall congressional vote. 10. Executive action on immigration. Obama abused prosecutorial discretion in 2012 in announcing “Deferred Action for Children of Americans” (DACA) in 2012, even after Congress declined to pass legislation on “Dreamers.” But the real offense came after the 2014 elections, when Obama defied the electorate and announced an “executive amnesty” — “Deferred Action for Parents of Americans” (DAPA) — that he himself said dozens of times was unconstitutional (he lost in the courts). Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He was named one of the “most influential” people in news media in 2016. His new book, See No Evil: 19 Hard Truths the Left Can’t Handle, is available from Regnery through Amazon. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak. He must be a winner because we are all losers for having this incompetent clown in the White House for eight long, painful years. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:57pm
Obama is on the same page as another winner, Richard Branson, on issues such as climate change, conflict resolution, oceans, prison and drug reform, capital punishment and inspiring young entrepreneurs.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 11:59pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 9:28pm:
Au contraire Mr. Hammer. I am simply looking at numbers. Real numbers, not your imaginary ones. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 6:29am
I'm an Australian with no vested interest in the POTUS, yet by objective critique, it appears Obama is the worst president of all time.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Panther on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 8:53am
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Culture Warrior on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 9:44am
How many people did 'drone king' kill in the Middle East?
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Karnal on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 10:01am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 9:44am:
Quite a few, Mistie, quite a few. It's all good though. Trump's promised to be much nicer. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Panther on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 11:02am Melanias purse wrote on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 10:01am:
Yes, Obama alerted targets in advance, so the targets were in a heightened state of anxiety & constant fear, causing them to either escape with their lives, or cowardly soil their harem pants before dying, trembling in horrible fear. Totally unacceptable. Trump, on the other hand, will be much nicer. Trump won't warn the targets, so they won't be in that abusive heightened state of anxiety & constant fear, & their days will be more relaxed & more cheerful.........before being blasted to hell to sit & break bread with the big Moe in hell's eternal fires. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 1st, 2017 at 2:47am Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/obama-as-wartime-president-has-wrestled-with-protecting-nation-and-troops.html?_r=0 |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 1st, 2017 at 2:49am Quote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicolas-j-s-davies/the-record-us-military-bu_b_8227820.html |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by AiA on Jan 1st, 2017 at 6:28am Regardless of what you say, Obama is admired at home and abroad and that admiration will only grow with time. And you can imagine that he will not retire in shame like George W Bush ... |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 1st, 2017 at 8:59am Obama's last days in office checklist: Turn back Israel✅ Cause racial divide✅ Start conflict with Russia✅ Tell Americans there's no hope✅ |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:00am |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by jeez on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:06am
The sooner Obama gets his black ass out of the white house the better, that stooge has no form, trying to start a war with Russia before he leaves.
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:07am Johnnie wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:06am:
is one of the serious reasons hillary lost the election |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by jeez on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:13am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 9:07am:
Hillary lost the election because of her poor choice in pant suits and painted on smile. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by red baron on Jan 1st, 2017 at 12:24pm
There was one place Obama didn't win..His economics policies saw the national debt doubt by trillions during his eight year reign
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by mortdooley on Jan 1st, 2017 at 10:33pm |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 8:19am AiA wrote on Jan 1st, 2017 at 6:28am:
That admiration is just gushing from thes Australians. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Dnarever on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 8:36am bogarde73 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:07am:
Over 60% of what Trump promised were lies. Just imagine what that will do to confidence and optimism as people slowly wake up to the truth? The dummies elected the biggest presidential liar in US history as well as a self confessed serial sexual assaulter. Nothing to be either proud of or optimistic about. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Jovial Monk on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:20am
Reagan made a campaign speech in the South talking about “States rights.” This was a dogwhistle to the racists in the south, code for “no more forced desegregation.” What the South got was WorkChoices style IR laws “fire at will” any uppity workers. This is why the South is depressed.
Now Trump promised much he won’t even try to deliver, populists never do. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Panther on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:46am Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 8:19am:
Well, dare be plenty ta admire. Obama be Cool, Obama be Funny, Obama be rated as one of da 3 woist Presidens in 'merican History........Yassa, dare be plenty ta admire in dat dare fella Obama ...... Yassa, surenuff. |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Panther on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 11:53am |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 11:57am AiA wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 5:59am:
D'urrrrr .... you don't think this is because 98% of African-Americans voted on racist grounds and not as whites do - on grounds of merit regardless of colour? Hmmmmmmmmm ... ? |
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 11:59am
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Title: Re: Obama, always a winner Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 12:02pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:20am:
... and that's because they are prevented from delivering by such as the Greenies, Laborites, and sundry others when new proposed legislation reaches the senate and the Upper House. |
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Title: Obama, An Epic Failure Post by Panther on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 12:33pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 9:20am:
Source: http://tinyurl.com/hc84zue Quote:
Ronnie vs Barry .. |
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