Why we should no longer consider Last Tango in Paris ‘a classic’


Bernardo Bertolucci’s Last Tango in Paris has long been considered a classic film, a boundary-breaking meditation on 20th-century loneliness and sexual politics. Released in 1972, it stars Maria Schneider (1952-2011) and Marlon Brando (1924-2004) as Jeanne and Paul, two strangers who begin a torrid sexual relationship.

Bertolucci shot the erotic scenes in vivid detail, a directorial choice that was equally lauded and vilified at the time. However, a recently resurfaced 2013 interview with him revealing an instance of sexual abuse in the making of the film (WARNING: graphic content in linked video) invites us to reassess its value and consider how abusive masculinity permeates the movie industry.

Australian streaming service Stan has already removed the film from its catalogue in response. And film scholars – who have long regarded this film as part of the canon – must surely reassess this judgement now that we know the appalling means by which one of its key scenes was created.

It is now impossible to rewatch the movie without the air of a snuff piece about it. As viewers, we are witnessing actual abuse. It is difficult to imagine a way around that.

In the interview, Bertolucci reveals that a key scene in which Brando uses butter as a lubricant for sex was shot without Schneider’s consent. Rather, Bertolucci and Brando conspired to get a “real” reaction from the actress, who repeatedly says “no” during the scene.

We now know that it was Maria the woman and not Jeanne the character who was fighting to get Brando’s imposing figure off her back. What we see onscreen is not a simulated rape but an actual instance of sexual abuse. In the interview, Bertolucci says that he felt guilty but that he didn’t regret having shot the scene in such a deceitful way.

First things first: there are potential legal ramifications stemming from this revelation. It may be that Stan’s removal of Last Tango in Paris is only the first in a number of consequences for the film. For the film community, both the revelation and the response to it also raise several important questions.

Firstly, in a world where men dominate the film industry and perpetuate its status quo, film scholars must carefully consider the kinds of stories we tell about its history and achievements. Nor should women be left to critique the industry’s gender politics alone – one reason why we, as two men, feel the need to write this article.

D.W. Griffith’s film The Birth of a Nation (1915), for instance, was picketed at its release by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People for its racism and is now widely thought to have spearheaded the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan. However, it still holds a place in many film scholars’ lists of the all-time greats for its technical and aesthetic achievements.

This should not be allowed to happen with Last Tango in Paris. We should not revere artistic achievement over the genuine suffering of others.

Bertolucci’s actions are a contradiction to his persona and his body of work. Having lived and denounced fascism through films such as The Conformist (1970), it is surprising that he was such a gender fascist himself. But it is not enough simply to say that because Last Tango reaches aesthetic heights it is worth championing.

A further key question is why it took the recirculation of an interview with the film’s male director for this treatment to be taken seriously – when Schneider herself spoke about the scene and its impact on her for years. In a 2007 interview, Schneider, who suffered from mental health issues throughout her life, said that she felt “a little raped” by Brando and regretted not having refused to shoot the scene or called her agent.

But how could she refuse? There was a clear power differential between Schneider, and Brando and Bertolucci. She was an aspiring young actress, while Brando was the biggest movie star in the world and Bertolucci was considered a master filmmaker. Brando was 48. Schneider was 19. Let that sink in: she was 19 years old, barely an adult.

According to numerous acquaintances, the experience of shooting Last Tango in Paris haunted her for life. While it advanced both Brando and Bertolucci’s careers, earning them Oscar nominations, it left Schneider’s in shambles.

It is also worth remembering that Schneider, Brando and Bertolucci were not the only people present on the set for this scene. How many camera, sound and production crew have stayed silent for decades and remain complicit?


https://theconversation.com/why-we-should-no-longer-consider-last-tango-in-paris-a-classic-69874

He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole!

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole!

Agreed, And Last Tango in Paris should earn the reputation of a snuff movie.

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:49am:

He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole!

both of them

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:54am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:49am: He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole! both of them

Actress is dead.  So is Brando.

This is very disturbing, and totally unacceptable to all reasonable, morally sound people.

However, stand by for all the usual suspects in here (we all know who they are) to make excuses for this rape, just as they have bent over backwards to defend Trump against allegations of child gang rape as well as his confessions of sexually abusing scores of women.

The truth of the matter is, the deplorable members in here who defend these sort of crimes would never have the intestinal fortitude to repeat what they say in here to their partners.

Apologists for murderers, rapists, and white-collar criminals, and cowards to their very core.

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 10:03am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:54am: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:49am: He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole! both of them Actress is dead.  So is Brando.

ahh  ... that makes sense now. I was wondering why he would admit it publicly after all this time.

According to the director the only objection was to the use of the butter.


BY
Peter Sblendorio
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:37 PM

The "Last Tango in Paris" director is trying to re-write the script two days after a resurfaced video captured him admitting that part of the movie's rape scene was filmed without the lead actress' consent.

Bernardo Bertolucci attempted to chalk up the escalating backlash against him as a "ridiculous misunderstanding" after a 2013 interview, in which he admitted he and actor Marlon Brando chose not to tell actress Maria Schneider that her character would be raped with a stick of butter, began circulating the internet.

"I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter."

"We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false."


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/tango-director-rape-scene-comments-misunderstood-article-1.2899560

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

According to the director the only objection was to the use of the butter. BY Peter Sblendorio NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:37 PM The "Last Tango in Paris" director is trying to re-write the script two days after a resurfaced video captured him admitting that part of the movie's rape scene was filmed without the lead actress' consent. Bernardo Bertolucci attempted to chalk up the escalating backlash against him as a "ridiculous misunderstanding" after a 2013 interview, in which he admitted he and actor Marlon Brando chose not to tell actress Maria Schneider that her character would be raped with a stick of butter, began circulating the internet. "I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter." "We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/tango-director-rape-scene-comments-misunderstood-article-1.2899560

Reads like a tremendous backpedal.

Quote:

"I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter." "We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false."

I think the misunderstanding is on Bertolucci's part. Informed about the violence or not - the act was clearly non-consensual, and this is really the only point that matters. While I haven't seen the movie, presumably it depicts a reaction of terror from the girl - and if this was what she was genuinely feeling as a result of this non-consensual act, then I see no meaningful difference between this scenario to the so called "misunderstood" scenario.

The old left versus the new left. Bertolucci was a Marxist, who was, like many other Marxists of his time, trying to subvert norms and shock people. Enter the new left, who revise all old literature and movies for signs of sexism, racism etc.

mothra wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:34am: According to the director the only objection was to the use of the butter. BY Peter Sblendorio NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:37 PM The "Last Tango in Paris" director is trying to re-write the script two days after a resurfaced video captured him admitting that part of the movie's rape scene was filmed without the lead actress' consent. Bernardo Bertolucci attempted to chalk up the escalating backlash against him as a "ridiculous misunderstanding" after a 2013 interview, in which he admitted he and actor Marlon Brando chose not to tell actress Maria Schneider that her character would be raped with a stick of butter, began circulating the internet. "I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter." "We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/tango-director-rape-scene-comments-misunderstood-article-1.2899560 Reads like a tremendous backpedal.

Dug up by Gordon, no less    ::)


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:34am: According to the director the only objection was to the use of the butter. BY Peter Sblendorio NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:37 PM The "Last Tango in Paris" director is trying to re-write the script two days after a resurfaced video captured him admitting that part of the movie's rape scene was filmed without the lead actress' consent. Bernardo Bertolucci attempted to chalk up the escalating backlash against him as a "ridiculous misunderstanding" after a 2013 interview, in which he admitted he and actor Marlon Brando chose not to tell actress Maria Schneider that her character would be raped with a stick of butter, began circulating the internet. "I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter." "We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/tango-director-rape-scene-comments-misunderstood-article-1.2899560 Reads like a tremendous backpedal. Dug up by Gordon, no less    ::)

Dug up eh ? I didn't even have to scroll down for this article :)

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mothra wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:49am: He should be charged with rape.  Simple as that.  Arsehole! Agreed, And Last Tango in Paris should earn the reputation of a snuff movie.

Agreed. Utterly disgusting.

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 12:05pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:34am: According to the director the only objection was to the use of the butter. BY Peter Sblendorio NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:37 PM The "Last Tango in Paris" director is trying to re-write the script two days after a resurfaced video captured him admitting that part of the movie's rape scene was filmed without the lead actress' consent. Bernardo Bertolucci attempted to chalk up the escalating backlash against him as a "ridiculous misunderstanding" after a 2013 interview, in which he admitted he and actor Marlon Brando chose not to tell actress Maria Schneider that her character would be raped with a stick of butter, began circulating the internet. "I would like for the last time to clear up a ridiculous misunderstanding that continues to generate press reports about 'Last Tango in Paris' around the world," Bertolucci said in a statement Monday, according to Deadline. "Several years ago, at the Cinematheque Francaise, someone asked me for details on the famous butter scene. I specified, but perhaps was not clear, that I decided with Marlon Brando not to inform Maria that we would (use) butter." "We wanted her spontaneous reaction to that improper use (of butter)," he continued. "This is where the misunderstanding lies. Somebody thought, and thinks, that Maria had not been informed about the violence on her. That is false." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/tango-director-rape-scene-comments-misunderstood-article-1.2899560 Reads like a tremendous backpedal. Dug up by Gordon, no less    ::) Dug up eh ? I didn't even have to scroll down for this article :)

Apologist.

This is ridiculous. Now you cannot google the scene.

So far I have seen nothing to indicate that intercourse even took place. Why did it take so many years for such an explosive revelation to surface?

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

This is ridiculous. Now you cannot google the scene. So far I have seen nothing to indicate that intercourse even took place. Why did it take so many years for such an explosive revelation to surface?

I believe the actress died two weeks before the Wog made his initial revelation.

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

This is ridiculous. Now you cannot google the scene. So far I have seen nothing to indicate that intercourse even took place. Why did it take so many years for such an explosive revelation to surface?

Watch it all.  Only short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMl4xCGcdfA

With that accent...maybe he said two years, not two weeks.

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Thanks Aussie, that shows about two seconds of the scene.

Looks like a publicity stunt to me.

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Thanks Aussie, that shows about two seconds of the scene. Looks like a publicity stunt to me.

I'll bet it is not two seconds, but whatever it was, without her consent, she had butter inserted, somewhere, somehow.  Rape.

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:13pm:

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Gordy making jokes about rape ... again.

What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)?

There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)?

https://youtu.be/N0JR2trbn6I

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water, Mr Peccarry.

They're all in the taxis.

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry.

So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking?

Dunno...do turds smoke cigars?

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars?

Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :)

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:00pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :)

Are they in Asia?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :) Are they in Asia?

Ask Aussie.

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:01pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :) Are they in Asia? Ask Aussie.

Don't you know?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:05pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:01pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :) Are they in Asia? Ask Aussie. Don't you know?

I've never been into Indians.  They're a bit weird. I like Asians tho.

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:07pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:05pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:01pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :) Are they in Asia? Ask Aussie. Don't you know? I've never been into Indians.  They're a bit weird. I like Asians tho.

You don't have to be into Indians to know where India is, Gordy.

Keep digging that hole, though. I'm enjoying this.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:07pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:05pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:01pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:00pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:58pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:13pm: ! Gordy making jokes about rape ... again. What do they put in the water in North Bondi (besides turds)? There are no turds in the water there, Mr Peccarry. So, when Gordy said he had a Bondi cigar in his mouth, he was actually smoking? Dunno...do turds smoke cigars? Should I start posting photos of Indian beaches?  :) Are they in Asia? Ask Aussie. Don't you know? I've never been into Indians.  They're a bit weird. I like Asians tho. You don't have to be into Indians to know where India is, Gordy. Keep digging that hole, though. I'm enjoying this.

How's the health today?

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:41pm: Thanks Aussie, that shows about two seconds of the scene. Looks like a publicity stunt to me. I'll bet it is not two seconds, but whatever it was, without her consent, she had butter inserted, somewhere, somehow.  Rape.

If you are not sure where the butter was inserted or how, how can you be so sure it was inserted at all?

Why do you think it took several years for people to realise what this guy was saying?

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:47pm: freediver wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:41pm: Thanks Aussie, that shows about two seconds of the scene. Looks like a publicity stunt to me. I'll bet it is not two seconds, but whatever it was, without her consent, she had butter inserted, somewhere, somehow.  Rape. If you are not sure where the butter was inserted or how, how can you be so sure it was inserted at all? Why do you think it took several years for people to realise what this guy was saying?

Dunno.  I know as much as you do.  I do doubt she was on that floor face down, screaming absolute blue murder, if Brando was inert above her.   You?

Take her reaction and put that in the context of what the Wog said....he wanted a genuine, not acted, reaction from her.....he and Brando had a meeting of minds on using butter.  You tell me what Brando did with the butter without her consent or prior knowledge it would be used.  You, like me, will be speculating, but that Wog needs to be seriously taken to task by Plod.

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Dunno.  I know as much as you do.  I do doubt she was on that floor face down, screaming absolute blue murder, if Brando was inert above her.   You?

It's called acting Aussie. BTW, the clip you showed involved no screaming.


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Take her reaction and put that in the context of what the Wog said....he wanted a genuine, not acted, reaction from her.....he and Brando had a meeting of minds on using butter.

A perfectly worded publicity stunt. You are being taken advantage of Aussie.

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

Quote: Dunno.  I know as much as you do.  I do doubt she was on that floor face down, screaming absolute blue murder, if Brando was inert above her.   You? It's called acting Aussie. BTW, the clip you showed involved no screaming. [quote]Take her reaction and put that in the context of what the Wog said....he wanted a genuine, not acted, reaction from her.....he and Brando had a meeting of minds on using butter.

A perfectly worded publicity stunt. You are being taken advantage of Aussie.[/quote]

Poor ol' me.

FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip?

Aussie wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip?

Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare.

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare.

Yeah, skip - answer the question!

Gordon wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:36pm: FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip? Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare.

It's what lefties do.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 10:24am:

Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:40pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:36pm: FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip? Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare. It's what lefties do.

Does/did any Wog have a problem being referred to as a Wog?

Aussie wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 10:27am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:24am: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:40pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:36pm: FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip? Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare. It's what lefties do. Does/did any Wog have a problem being referred to as a Wog?

It doesn't matter. You're a racist.

I would have been 20 when I saw the Last Tango.  Along with WR - Secrets of the Organism, Helga, Clockwork Orange, and a few others of that ilk.    I remember them being highly erotic and a game changer as far as the Aussie cinema going public were concerned.  Caused a lot of concern and outrage in their day.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:27am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:24am: Gordon wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:40pm: Aussie wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 9:36pm: FD.....when was that movie made, and when was it the Wog made these statements (which could be taken as a confession of rape) about the scene, the statements he made two weeks/years after her death, those in the clip? Why do you so easily throw the wog word around yet take offence at other racial epithets? Bizzare. It's what lefties do. Does/did any Wog have a problem being referred to as a Wog? It doesn't matter. You're a racist.

Aussie also wants to destroy Israel because "Arabia is for Arabs". Apparently that is not racist either, and nor is the suggestion that Arabs are genetically predisposed against liberal democracy.